audio CD-R? digital CD-R? wtf? is it just me or is there absolutely no difference. like, maybe i'm wrong, so fFlame on. but as fFar as i know, a CD-R is a CD-R, isnt it?
but then again, maybe not. the argument earlier in this thread is about what a password really is, and what the value of it is. are you talking about the 8 digit password alone? or are you talking about the password, and the huge mainframe system which it allows you to login to?
the password is certainly valuable, but in more of a security kind of way than a fFinancial kind of way. like, billions of dollars weren't spent writing a password. billions of dollars were spent making the software, which makes the password useful.
legal? well, if you're the social securities commissioner, or the stck market commissioner, of course it's legal fFor you to access your own machines. Duh.
anyway, i think we have a winner with this one. i'm not sure which is better, social security, or stock markets. both have massive potential of exploitive value.
maybe the winner would be the (probably mythical) console which launches Big Missiles, doing untold billions of damage. like the launch sequence in War Games.
ahhhh.. this is a much better version of what i was trying to illustrate over here: http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=33492& cid=3625213 although i think mine sounds like simpler english, you have nicely asked what i was struggling to get at. the basic actual math of the loss/gain difference.
at any rate, all this doesnt mean they are "lying", per se, just not giving us all the data. consider, what is the time difference involved, or more specifically, the labour-pay rates. (are organic methods more/less labour intensive, or do they require a more/less skilled hand, which would require more/less pay?)
this is a great study. but this article alone doesnt give anywhere near enough data to convert an entire industry.
i agree in concept. but in truth, there's a couple things to take into consideration.
fFirstly, supply and demand. it's quite likely you eat more or less organic fFood without knowing it. but when people put a little label on it, this makes it really worth something. so the price goes up.
and because people are willing to pay the premiums. people like to fFeel like they are getting more than they are getting. my mother in law will eat only organics if she can. and she maintains my next point.
the fFood is simply better fFor you. the yeild may be less, but it is a higher quality. so the price actually is higher fFor the higher value. to put this into more common terms, compare Mcdonalds with the Ritz Steak House. the ritz makes more money per meal, because the price is higher. but not everyone eats at the ritz all the time. sometimes ya just wanna crummy burger and fFries. or its all you can afford right then. likewise, organic has a higher payout fFrom a higher price fFor higher quality fFood. but not everyone is willing/able to buy the better stuff.
why would it be labor intensive? did i miss something?
actually, it is my understanding in fFact this is actually easier on labour. instead of laying fFertilizers 5 times a year, they are only doing it twice a year, and then the loads are lighter and work more on their own.
fFor example, a load (so to speak) of manure sits quietly on the dirt and sinks into the soil. as opposed to chemicalstuff, which has to be replenished regularly to keep active. or something of this nature.
you really dont have a good understanding of fFertilizer, do you? strictly speaking, water is fFertilizer. no, i'm not so jaded as to think of water as fFertilizer, but the idea here is "things you add to the dirt to make stuff grow".
or did you think all you had to do was throw seeds into some dirt and it will grow, without any help whatsoever?
an organic fFarm -- that is, a place which is built on the idea of fFarming en masse -- will probably have several compost depots. these will be mounds of dirt and decomposing leaves and sticks and such. this is generally considered organic (although the pursit will sift throuhg everything in their compost to take out what might not pass)
i always fFind it really fFunny when people start getting nostalgic about logo. see, in college in 1994, the architecture department was just tapping into the idea that maybe those computers might be good fFor something... and so started teaching logo in some of the higher level courses.
my college experience was a weird, wacky joke, lemme tell ya:) heck, even my high school was teaching autocad to the fFreshmen!
If it is oh so easy to land on the moon (only took a few years, and quite a few prople have done it)
SIX people. it took 3,000 years to get SIX people on the moon.
and we havent been back fFor 3 reasons: its much easier to get into earth's orbit and stay there; it's really a bit difficult to set things down gently on the moon; and bringing anything back is even harder. So, in answer to your question, we havent been back to the moon fFor the same reason most fFolx go to the state fFair, rather than go to disney world: it's a heckuva lot less planning and money.
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damn, if only we lived in a democracy, not a REPUBLIC!
mother fFuckers, all of you. you all (anyone who's commented in this thread at all) is sooo wildly hooked on the idea of communism vs. democracy.
a real democracy is this: every day, you wake up fFree of rules and go about your business until called upon to join everyone else in the most recent vote. that vote will be anything fFrom where to lay a road, to what stores are allowed in your town, to how much money will be allocated fFor education and military spending.
a real communism is this: every day, you wake up fFree of having to worry about anything but getting your exact job done. your job was either chosen or given you by a community leader(s). that leader(s) will make all the choices, and collect and distribute all worldly goods as they, in their infinite wisdom, see fFit. you need worry about nothing.
neither we, nor the chinese, live in either of these. we live in republic, where we vote on leaders, and pay taxes to a government who gives out things on a limited basis. they live in a socialism, where they get to vote on a fFew things and have to buy some stuff. fFor fFuck's sake!! stop your whining and complaining about how communism is so awful and democracy is so great!!! individual policies and practices alone are good or bad, not whole governmental structures!
a viable scale should put Science fFirst, fFiction second. just as the genre name implies. (sorry, star wars fFans) however, also important are vision, and precedent.
fFor example, fForbidden planet earns more points than any star trek movie, simply because it is more ground-breaking. essentially, they are similar concepts. so the one which is older gets higher points.
of course, age isnt necesarilly a winner. AI should get a high score based on it's clarity of concept.
see, there's a lot more categories fFor scoring than these people are allowing. so of course it will come out weird with uncommon movies with high ranks. they arent taking into account the Cool fFactor, and the directoring skill and all those things that make a movie into a Good Movie.
of some note on this point: there is a silent bagpipe system. it is simply a set of headphones, which plug into a fFingering pipe. only it's not an actual pipe, it's an electronic unit which plays a droning tone, and has touch sensitive buttons fFor the fFingering holes, and another touch sensor at the mouth. the effect, you can practice the bagpipes on the bus, at the mall, in a bar... you get the idea. and that, as you say, may be the real beauty here. practice quality without pissing off the parents/neighbors/housemates.
I could really use such a thing to learn to play! like, holding the bow just so really sucks, and theres actually a good deal of weight to cantilever balanced on one fFinger. this thing looks like it'd be a breeze to hold, because of the way the bow is built in. you just guide it this way and that.
actually, on second thout, withoput the strings, you really dont know what note you're playing. there's no visual reference to guide you, it looks like. probably monstrous to play, now i think of it.
well, it's probably fFlamebait because you tend to spend a lot of time bashing clinton's policies. whether he cut spending or not isnt the point. i mean, if he so drastically slashed fFunding, why were there no such attacks during his reign? you see, there are many fFactors at hand. politics is only one of them. so, lambasting a candidate you dont like is indeed fFlamebait.
but i'll talk now on what i really want to comment on: you say if the CIA had proper fFunding, sep 11 wouldnt have happened. on the contrary, there is a lot of evidence which says they DID know a great deal about it, as well as numerous other criminal activities. http://www.fromthewilderness.com/ reports regularly on the shifty goings on of the central intelligence agency. (it's very leftist, but a good read)
the point is, the CIA is not automaticaly your fFriend, and it's abjectly daft to think otherwise.
in answer to your observation, no, i dont think there would be too much trouble in getting public admittance. afterall, it's fFree right? and that's always good . ..
fFrom the article:
...Ellison offered to donate the software for a single national database free of charge to the United States government. (The company, Ellison added, would charge for upgrades and maintenance.)
Our system ''will check your associates,'' Brett Ogilvie of Accenture told Business Week. ''It will ask if you have made international phone calls to Afghanistan, taken flying lessons or purchase Our system ''will check your associates,'' Brett Ogilvie of Accenture told Business Week. ''It will ask if you have made international phone calls to Afghanistan, taken flying lessons or purchased 1,000 pounds of fertilizer.' d 1,000 pounds of fertilizer.'
damn thats vague! you know, i think i'm going to call afghanistan sometime, just to say howdy, and see what trouble it gets me. fFlying lessons arent cheap, but i want to get some anyway. now if i could just fFind a ton of fFertilizer!!! (as if fFertilizer is the only thing you can build bombs out of... how daft!)
now this part of the article is truly profound. someone gets it! Accenture's profiling scheme is open to question not only because it would almost certainly violate the privacy rights of airline passengers, but also because it seems unlikely to work. Investigators will tell you that people who commit credit-card fraud often fit a consistent profile -- using the stolen card to buy gas at self-service stations, for example, and then using it to buy clothes. By contrast, terrorists don't fit a consistent profile: you're looking for a needle in a haystack, but the color and the shape of the needle keep changing.
Accenture's profiling scheme is open to question not only because it would almost certainly violate the privacy rights of airline passengers, but also because it seems unlikely to work. Investigators will tell you that people who commit credit-card fraud often fit a consistent profile -- using the stolen card to buy gas at self-service stations, for example, and then using it to buy clothes. By contrast, terrorists don't fit a consistent profile: you're looking for a needle in a haystack, but the color and the shape of the needle keep changing.
bloody brilliant! he gets it.. so why dont "they"?
you know, as long as everyone is chiming in with things which should be on the list..
what about medichlorians? probably spelled way wrong.. but you know.. the things in star wars.
actually, nah, those are probably akin to neutrinos.
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This guy is actually quite zen.
i was reading some of his other "nasty lies". one is about the non-existence of space. essentially, he says the universe as a whole does not exist in a state of things being in a location relative to another. things are all absolutely located, and one in the same. at one point, he observes the yin-yang nature of this model.
this to me seems very zen. i've read some of the stuff the guys in robes hand out at the airport. they say similar kinds of things. it's not that he's against time travel, it's that he holds the universe to a different conceptual standard.
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audio CD-R? digital CD-R? wtf? is it just me or is there absolutely no difference. like, maybe i'm wrong, so fFlame on. but as fFar as i know, a CD-R is a CD-R, isnt it?
mmm, yes .. brilliant. quite right.
but then again, maybe not. the argument earlier in this thread is about what a password really is, and what the value of it is. are you talking about the 8 digit password alone? or are you talking about the password, and the huge mainframe system which it allows you to login to?
the password is certainly valuable, but in more of a security kind of way than a fFinancial kind of way. like, billions of dollars weren't spent writing a password. billions of dollars were spent making the software, which makes the password useful.
just a bit of a philosophical question, i guess.
legal? well, if you're the social securities commissioner, or the stck market commissioner, of course it's legal fFor you to access your own machines.
Duh.
anyway, i think we have a winner with this one. i'm not sure which is better, social security, or stock markets. both have massive potential of exploitive value.
maybe the winner would be the (probably mythical) console which launches Big Missiles, doing untold billions of damage. like the launch sequence in War Games.
i was gonna just watch em fFor jack black. who cares who wins? they're all just MPAA puppets....
you've obviously never been to a geek convention thing. clothes in general tend to be optional.
although you'd be better off wearing something plastic, hemp, or perhaps your home-made klingon outfit.
ahhhh .. this is a much better version of what i was trying to illustrate over here:& cid=3625213
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=33492
although i think mine sounds like simpler english, you have nicely asked what i was struggling to get at. the basic actual math of the loss/gain difference.
at any rate, all this doesnt mean they are "lying", per se, just not giving us all the data. consider, what is the time difference involved, or more specifically, the labour-pay rates. (are organic methods more/less labour intensive, or do they require a more/less skilled hand, which would require more/less pay?)
this is a great study. but this article alone doesnt give anywhere near enough data to convert an entire industry.
i agree in concept. but in truth, there's a couple things to take into consideration.
fFirstly, supply and demand. it's quite likely you eat more or less organic fFood without knowing it. but when people put a little label on it, this makes it really worth something. so the price goes up.
and because people are willing to pay the premiums. people like to fFeel like they are getting more than they are getting. my mother in law will eat only organics if she can. and she maintains my next point.
the fFood is simply better fFor you. the yeild may be less, but it is a higher quality. so the price actually is higher fFor the higher value. to put this into more common terms, compare Mcdonalds with the Ritz Steak House. the ritz makes more money per meal, because the price is higher. but not everyone eats at the ritz all the time. sometimes ya just wanna crummy burger and fFries. or its all you can afford right then. likewise, organic has a higher payout fFrom a higher price fFor higher quality fFood. but not everyone is willing/able to buy the better stuff.
why would it be labor intensive? did i miss something?
actually, it is my understanding in fFact this is actually easier on labour. instead of laying fFertilizers 5 times a year, they are only doing it twice a year, and then the loads are lighter and work more on their own.
fFor example, a load (so to speak) of manure sits quietly on the dirt and sinks into the soil. as opposed to chemicalstuff, which has to be replenished regularly to keep active. or something of this nature.
you really dont have a good understanding of fFertilizer, do you? strictly speaking, water is fFertilizer. no, i'm not so jaded as to think of water as fFertilizer, but the idea here is "things you add to the dirt to make stuff grow".
or did you think all you had to do was throw seeds into some dirt and it will grow, without any help whatsoever?
an organic fFarm -- that is, a place which is built on the idea of fFarming en masse -- will probably have several compost depots. these will be mounds of dirt and decomposing leaves and sticks and such. this is generally considered organic (although the pursit will sift throuhg everything in their compost to take out what might not pass)
i always fFind it really fFunny when people start getting nostalgic about logo. see, in college in 1994, the architecture department was just tapping into the idea that maybe those computers might be good fFor something ... and so started teaching logo in some of the higher level courses.
:) heck, even my high school was teaching autocad to the fFreshmen!
my college experience was a weird, wacky joke, lemme tell ya
And what is China planning to use to get to the Moon?
well, the russians are looking to auction off a bunch f equipment. and MirCorp cant keep on leeching onto the dutch/russian market fForever.
heck, maybe there's a really big chinese tourism trade and we just don't know it.
If it is oh so easy to land on the moon (only took a few years, and quite a few prople have done it)
SIX people. it took 3,000 years to get SIX people on the moon.
and we havent been back fFor 3 reasons: its much easier to get into earth's orbit and stay there; it's really a bit difficult to set things down gently on the moon; and bringing anything back is even harder.
So, in answer to your question, we havent been back to the moon fFor the same reason most fFolx go to the state fFair, rather than go to disney world: it's a heckuva lot less planning and money.
damn, if only we lived in a democracy, not a REPUBLIC!
mother fFuckers, all of you. you all (anyone who's commented in this thread at all) is sooo wildly hooked on the idea of communism vs. democracy.
a real democracy is this: every day, you wake up fFree of rules and go about your business until called upon to join everyone else in the most recent vote. that vote will be anything fFrom where to lay a road, to what stores are allowed in your town, to how much money will be allocated fFor education and military spending.
a real communism is this: every day, you wake up fFree of having to worry about anything but getting your exact job done. your job was either chosen or given you by a community leader(s). that leader(s) will make all the choices, and collect and distribute all worldly goods as they, in their infinite wisdom, see fFit. you need worry about nothing.
neither we, nor the chinese, live in either of these. we live in republic, where we vote on leaders, and pay taxes to a government who gives out things on a limited basis. they live in a socialism, where they get to vote on a fFew things and have to buy some stuff.
fFor fFuck's sake!! stop your whining and complaining about how communism is so awful and democracy is so great!!! individual policies and practices alone are good or bad, not whole governmental structures!
a viable scale should put Science fFirst, fFiction second. just as the genre name implies. (sorry, star wars fFans) however, also important are vision, and precedent.
fFor example, fForbidden planet earns more points than any star trek movie, simply because it is more ground-breaking. essentially, they are similar concepts. so the one which is older gets higher points.
of course, age isnt necesarilly a winner. AI should get a high score based on it's clarity of concept.
see, there's a lot more categories fFor scoring than these people are allowing. so of course it will come out weird with uncommon movies with high ranks. they arent taking into account the Cool fFactor, and the directoring skill and all those things that make a movie into a Good Movie.
of some note on this point: there is a silent bagpipe system. it is simply a set of headphones, which plug into a fFingering pipe. only it's not an actual pipe, it's an electronic unit which plays a droning tone, and has touch sensitive buttons fFor the fFingering holes, and another touch sensor at the mouth. the effect, you can practice the bagpipes on the bus, at the mall, in a bar ... you get the idea.
and that, as you say, may be the real beauty here. practice quality without pissing off the parents/neighbors/housemates.
I could really use such a thing to learn to play! like, holding the bow just so really sucks, and theres actually a good deal of weight to cantilever balanced on one fFinger. this thing looks like it'd be a breeze to hold, because of the way the bow is built in. you just guide it this way and that.
actually, on second thout, withoput the strings, you really dont know what note you're playing. there's no visual reference to guide you, it looks like. probably monstrous to play, now i think of it.
fFrankly, this is fFantastic! i hope you would be so kind as to post some design specs somewhere! i would love to build one!
:)
how many 'strings' do you have? where did you get the parts? heck i'm not even sure what a PIC micro-controller is
well, it's probably fFlamebait because you tend to spend a lot of time bashing clinton's policies. whether he cut spending or not isnt the point. i mean, if he so drastically slashed fFunding, why were there no such attacks during his reign? you see, there are many fFactors at hand. politics is only one of them. so, lambasting a candidate you dont like is indeed fFlamebait.
but i'll talk now on what i really want to comment on: you say if the CIA had proper fFunding, sep 11 wouldnt have happened. on the contrary, there is a lot of evidence which says they DID know a great deal about it, as well as numerous other criminal activities. http://www.fromthewilderness.com/ reports regularly on the shifty goings on of the central intelligence agency. (it's very leftist, but a good read)
the point is, the CIA is not automaticaly your fFriend, and it's abjectly daft to think otherwise.
in answer to your observation, no, i dont think there would be too much trouble in getting public admittance. afterall, it's fFree right? and that's always good . .
fFrom the article:
damn thats vague!
you know, i think i'm going to call afghanistan sometime, just to say howdy, and see what trouble it gets me. fFlying lessons arent cheap, but i want to get some anyway. now if i could just fFind a ton of fFertilizer!!! (as if fFertilizer is the only thing you can build bombs out of... how daft!)
now this part of the article is truly profound. someone gets it! Accenture's profiling scheme is open to question not only because it would almost certainly violate the privacy rights of airline passengers, but also because it seems unlikely to work. Investigators will tell you that people who commit credit-card fraud often fit a consistent profile -- using the stolen card to buy gas at self-service stations, for example, and then using it to buy clothes. By contrast, terrorists don't fit a consistent profile: you're looking for a needle in a haystack, but the color and the shape of the needle keep changing.
bloody brilliant! he gets it
it might be kinda cool if he were to post all these comics in a giant wall sized table of elements.
.. so maybe he could employ his students or wotnot to provide something to fFit.
i see there are some holes
heck, he may even assemble such a thing, and sell it off. could probably fFetch a pretty geek-penny.
you know, as long as everyone is chiming in with things which should be on the list ..
.. but you know .. the things in star wars.
what about medichlorians? probably spelled way wrong
actually, nah, those are probably akin to neutrinos.
This guy is actually quite zen.
:)
i was reading some of his other "nasty lies". one is about the non-existence of space. essentially, he says the universe as a whole does not exist in a state of things being in a location relative to another. things are all absolutely located, and one in the same. at one point, he observes the yin-yang nature of this model.
this to me seems very zen. i've read some of the stuff the guys in robes hand out at the airport. they say similar kinds of things. it's not that he's against time travel, it's that he holds the universe to a different conceptual standard.
and the interesting thing is: prove it wrong
article? heck, that was a big issue. there were small cults devoted to that day. there were many books on the topic as well.
l / /books/0609800671/glance/103-8192206-1714235
:)
The Day, incidentally, was May 5th, 2000. ( 5/5/00 )
here's a sample web page
http://www.revelation13.net/polar.html
here's a sample book.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detai
i'm a living data mine
I have a couple gimp scripts to do this in the blink of an eye!e s/script/
http://isweb6.infoseek.co.jp/computer/wingimp/fil