Look, it's easy to download the src to a few pages on slashdot, throw it all in emacs and clean it up.
It's another thing to download the sourcecode to slash, keep up with the OSDN author's changes, and try to keep a css'd (html4/xhtml) theme up-to-date. And yes, you'll need to patch the code because there are problems with how sections of it render (x)html and it's validity.
If the guys over at alistapart had done their research, they'd known that an example conversion was already done way before they ever bothered with it. One was in html4 the other in xhtml. The bandwidth used by the xhtml was slightly less the html4, but either way impressive on how it'd cut down costs (when combined with mod_gzip too). It was done to show 'Taco and the OSDN crew the advantages of css and newer html standards. And the response after that was very positive.
I found their article interesting, but misleading, because of the above.
As an aside, like Jamie and others have posted, it's being worked on. It's not funded, so it's being done by volunteers for $0. It's coming down the pipe, eventually... anyone wanting to help can hop on slashcode's irc channel and chat about it.
12 songs isn't enough. Someone posted above that 12 songs probably equates to 48mb of available memory in the thing. Thinking of it in that way making it seemingly more liveable.
What else will the phone do? Here's what I'd like to see it do (and it'd guarantee I'd go out and buy it when it came out):
1) a calendar display that syncs with iCal 2) a addressbook that syncs with, yeah, you guessed... the Address Book app 3) a usb port so I can plug it into my laptop and mount it on the desktop and/or use it to dialout to get a tcp/ip stack (this hasn't been working lately on my a620 and sprintpcs) 4) iPhoto integration if the phone has a camera on it 5) headphone jack 6) bluetooth 7) speaker-phone mode
My guess is the second generation version of the device will have the same hard drive in it which the current Mini iPod uses. That is, if they can swing the battery juice to hold enough that the thing is useable for a few days before it'd need a recharge.
Morally, if the guy is really dealing with personal illness, I feel for him, I have dealt with illness in my family and myself and that sucks - but it doesn't excuse screwing over 3000 people.
That's bullshit. If the guy's sick, the guy's sick. Simple as that. What he provided for people was/is for _free_. If they didn't have enough common sense to backup their own data and keep copies of stories they posted, it's their own fault.
But railing on the guy because he's sick and can't provide the quality free service that he did for a time (years? I don't know) seems extremely rude.
It's not like you've got the majority of these 3k people volunteering to come to his house and help him out for a few months to hopefully get over this crisis, no?
I'll agree with you that it could have been handled differently. Very differently infact - could have been better, could be worse (I imagine him pulling the powercord on the box and mumbling like cartman "screw you all") heh
For all Apple tries to claim "FAST", their speed bumps come at a snail's pace. And then, when they announce it, it's still 4-6 weeks (or more) until the first ships to consumers.
That's what I find the most annoying. I'd rather they either 1) delayed the annoucement till they could ship the damn things when I call to order or 2) get off their asses and move the schedule up so that they can ship out when announced.
I don't know about full movies, but here's how I'd use it (I'll envision my 4th generation ipod that has same formfactor w/ color screen, oh, and 80211b):
1. An iphoto sync so I can move pictures to it so I can show everyone my pics wherever I go. 2. Video clips - the kids at the soccer game, the birthday clips blowing out the candles. 3. Video clips - whether from the replayTV or downloaded - I'd love to have all those Saturday Nite live clips on there to view for a good laugh. 4. Maybe tv shows - but I doubt it. The screens are too small on any of these units. I mean, on the laptop I can have a video playing, be typing that, and have irc and xchat up. I can't get away with that on these small devices. However, on a trip, it would nice to be able throw a few howard stern shows on the unit to watch when it's my wife's turn to drive.
From this review it says that the book starts out with how to start a Cocoa application project with Project Builder
Where are the Xcode books???
I'd love to see a "more up to date" version of this that deals strictly with using Xcode. That seems to be the tool of choice for the OSX Cocoa developer's future.(imho)
The slashcss/xhtml is coming. Most of the templates have been converted, and there's work on the code to clean/fix comments/story data to clean up the html so that sites will validate.
Once this is done, it'll be quite easy to re-work a site just by modding it's style sheet.
There's even been talk about doing a slashzen site with it once all the work's done. I'd expect if that happens, you'll see a number of new looks pretty quick:)
Changing the look of one page might involve editing not only a template or two (fine) but also several source files.
This has improved, a lot, over the years. There's really not much html left in the src. Nearly all of it's in the templates (especially the data templates)
What the developers need to do, imho, is do the secion code re-work, and then release the thing.
That would help people: a) develop addons b) not have to diff their changes all the time to keep up with the every-changing cvs version.
You're right, the photo gallery's pretty easy to do. Infact, there's two different plugins you can download to do it. Each does it a little differently.
As far as coments for each photo - not hard to do at all. Create a new discussion for every photo, ie:
my $did = $slashdb->createDiscussion({
title => $description,
topic => $form->{topic},
url => $urlofthisphoto,
});
Not difficult, but that would create a _lot_ of discussions. You'd have to rework the code/template that lists them.
Personally, the plugin system's pretty easy. And if you don't like the way some of the stock code works, write a plugin (use the hooks to your advantage, if they're there) to change it.
FYI, when I wrote Slash::Galleria (photo gallery plugin) I opted to do the one discussion/gallery. I didn't think there'd be enough posts per/photo to warrant the seperate discussions for each.
Funny, back when I was young it was skateboards (the wooden kind, with metal wheels, if you were lucky it had rubber wheels with ball-bearings) and bikes. Maybe a few Atari 2600 games. But those were so expensive, you were lucky enough to have an Atari, let alone a radio shack pong game or both (only because the radio shack unit precluded the atari) and pacman and adventure.
Then I got a bit older, got a job, saved up, bought my first Apple II. The rest is history, that purchase pretty much assured my learning assembly and becoming a geek.
But kids now-a-days, pc's are everyhere. They don't have to work to get it.
Which is the point I'm getting at. I'm not over 40, but I have a teenager that's approaching 17. She's the same way. Put $100 in her pocket, and it'd burn a hole. Assume she'd save it for a car? Ah, think again. It amazes me what she will choose to spend her money on. And I'm guessing you are in the same situation.
The good thing (imho) is that you, and I, are able to give our kids the *choice* of how to spend money.
If my kids blow their birthday/holiday/allowance money, that's it. They're stuck at home. So they, over the years (since they where pre-teens) were forced to evaluate the $ versus the value, and what it means to them - forced to budget everything.
It still boggles my mind that they buy such weird/extravagent (in "the parent's mind") things. But then I try to compare relatively their situation vs mine when I was a kid. Then I realize how lucky they are, and I was. Not rich, but not poor, with the opportunity to work for more if you were up to it.
And now that I'm getting older, I'm thankful that I'm able to make their lives so easy (imho, not theirs!). I often wonder what path my life would've taken without that first ti-99-4/a to tweak my interest in all of this shit.
Interesting feature requests you've got there. All good ideas (IMHO). Do you have any more? If so please post them. Who knows, maybe someone will code 'em up:)
No! He's wasting taxpayer money. Infact, the whole program of agents reading normal porn 8 hours a day is a friggin resource waste. Let them find the kiddie porn wackos. Or bin Laden.
My guess is that after the November election, this goes bye-bye. Swept under the rug like many other things that Bush's campaign is bringing up to try and drum up support from some of his more 'conservative' followers.
So they are short on supply now. They're going to expand the market world-wide this summer.
They will be extremely short this fall/winter for the holiday season if they don't ramp production up. Infact, if they drop the price another $50, like a lot of people have been guesstimating, they'd better be prepared for the customers clammoring for it for xmas/holiday gifts.
Now if only they would come out with wireless sharing on it so I could browse other people's libraries at the gym, that would be sweet.
Oh c'mon. The gyms for working out. Leave the wireless surfing for other venues. It drives me nuts to see people chattin more then lifting. I'd loath the day when more people were scoping wireless *and* gabbing away.
As for the bug you refer to, is it in slash's buglist on sf.net? If not, you should report it. That's mainly how stuff gets fixed.
As for installing Slash, if you've got perl and apache setup correctly, installing Slash is a piece of cake... just 'make install'. That's *vastly* overstating. My best advice is go grab the src from cvs and give it a try.
I'm not even convinced computers save most companies money
I think most places save money (or earn money back) against their IT investment because:
They're nearly always short on the IT staff they need
The benefit of the computers, office software, email, laser printers/copiers/scanners/faxes is that it saves them on staffing. ex: You can get by with one secretary, instead of 4.
The cost of the h/w is written off as an expense, and w/ the "increased productivity" that cost is seen as a necessary evil. Just as we are, the IT staff, sometimes:(
That's what I did. And except for phones w/ walkie-talkie service (damned Nextel's!) that works great.
When we had nextels, my wife and I would be vegging on the couch in the evening, and the nextel would beep and my boss would be going "are you there"...99% of the time it was something that could easily have waited till the morning.
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That listapart article is crap.
Look, it's easy to download the src to a few pages on slashdot, throw it all in emacs and clean it up.
It's another thing to download the sourcecode to slash, keep up with the OSDN author's changes, and try to keep a css'd (html4/xhtml) theme up-to-date. And yes, you'll need to patch the code because there are problems with how sections of it render (x)html and it's validity.
If the guys over at alistapart had done their research, they'd known that an example conversion was already done way before they ever bothered with it. One was in html4 the other in xhtml. The bandwidth used by the xhtml was slightly less the html4, but either way impressive on how it'd cut down costs (when combined with mod_gzip too). It was done to show 'Taco and the OSDN crew the advantages of css and newer html standards. And the response after that was very positive.
I found their article interesting, but misleading, because of the above.
As an aside, like Jamie and others have posted, it's being worked on. It's not funded, so it's being done by volunteers for $0. It's coming down the pipe, eventually... anyone wanting to help can hop on slashcode's irc channel and chat about it.
12 songs isn't enough. Someone posted above that 12 songs probably equates to 48mb of available memory in the thing. Thinking of it in that way making it seemingly more liveable.
What else will the phone do? Here's what I'd like to see it do (and it'd guarantee I'd go out and buy it when it came out):
1) a calendar display that syncs with iCal
2) a addressbook that syncs with, yeah, you guessed... the Address Book app
3) a usb port so I can plug it into my laptop and mount it on the desktop and/or use it to dialout to get a tcp/ip stack (this hasn't been working lately on my a620 and sprintpcs)
4) iPhoto integration if the phone has a camera on it
5) headphone jack
6) bluetooth
7) speaker-phone mode
My guess is the second generation version of the device will have the same hard drive in it which the current Mini iPod uses. That is, if they can swing the battery juice to hold enough that the thing is useable for a few days before it'd need a recharge.
One would think that a system like this would be designed...
See DougWebb's comment. I think he nails it on the head with regard to the evolvement of the code.
One would think that a system like this would be designed so that the HTML generation is seperated out well enough so it can be easily replaced.
That's been being worked on over the past year (maybe more?)....' Get the rest of the HTML out of the code and into the templates'.
It's (imho) very nearly done. That work is largely what's enabled people to begin work on new themes (html4/xhtml).
All help appreciated, obviously. Submit a patch and help out if you can spare the time.
I wonder if the indexing can be turned off? I'd rather not have it eating my Powerbook battery's juice while I'm sittin on the couch.
No way. Maternal instinct rules. Most mothers will go nuts to protect their kin, whether ugly, malformed, etc.
Morally, if the guy is really dealing with personal illness, I feel for him, I have dealt with illness in my family and myself and that sucks - but it doesn't excuse screwing over 3000 people.
That's bullshit. If the guy's sick, the guy's sick. Simple as that. What he provided for people was/is for _free_. If they didn't have enough common sense to backup their own data and keep copies of stories they posted, it's their own fault.
But railing on the guy because he's sick and can't provide the quality free service that he did for a time (years? I don't know) seems extremely rude.
It's not like you've got the majority of these 3k people volunteering to come to his house and help him out for a few months to hopefully get over this crisis, no?
I'll agree with you that it could have been handled differently. Very differently infact - could have been better, could be worse (I imagine him pulling the powercord on the box and mumbling like cartman "screw you all") heh
For all Apple tries to claim "FAST", their speed bumps come at a snail's pace. And then, when they announce it, it's still 4-6 weeks (or more) until the first ships to consumers.
That's what I find the most annoying. I'd rather they either 1) delayed the annoucement till they could ship the damn things when I call to order or 2) get off their asses and move the schedule up so that they can ship out when announced.
I guess I'm missing something here, but what does it matter what file system the iPod uses?
I don't know about full movies, but here's how I'd use it (I'll envision my 4th generation ipod that has same formfactor w/ color screen, oh, and 80211b):
1. An iphoto sync so I can move pictures to it so I can show everyone my pics wherever I go.
2. Video clips - the kids at the soccer game, the birthday clips blowing out the candles.
3. Video clips - whether from the replayTV or downloaded - I'd love to have all those Saturday Nite live clips on there to view for a good laugh.
4. Maybe tv shows - but I doubt it. The screens are too small on any of these units. I mean, on the laptop I can have a video playing, be typing that, and have irc and xchat up. I can't get away with that on these small devices. However, on a trip, it would nice to be able throw a few howard stern shows on the unit to watch when it's my wife's turn to drive.
From this review it says that the book starts out with how to start a Cocoa application project with Project Builder
Where are the Xcode books???
I'd love to see a "more up to date" version of this that deals strictly with using Xcode. That seems to be the tool of choice for the OSX Cocoa developer's future.(imho)
You forgot to factor in the beer curve...
The slashcss/xhtml is coming. Most of the templates have been converted, and there's work on the code to clean/fix comments/story data to clean up the html so that sites will validate.
:)
Once this is done, it'll be quite easy to re-work a site just by modding it's style sheet.
There's even been talk about doing a slashzen site with it once all the work's done. I'd expect if that happens, you'll see a number of new looks pretty quick
Changing the look of one page might involve editing not only a template or two (fine) but also several source files.
This has improved, a lot, over the years. There's really not much html left in the src. Nearly all of it's in the templates (especially the data templates)
What the developers need to do, imho, is do the secion code re-work, and then release the thing.
That would help people:
a) develop addons
b) not have to diff their changes all the time to keep up with the every-changing cvs version.
You're right, the photo gallery's pretty easy to do. Infact, there's two different plugins you can download to do it. Each does it a little differently.
As far as coments for each photo - not hard to do at all. Create a new discussion for every photo, ie:
my $did = $slashdb->createDiscussion({
title => $description,
topic => $form->{topic},
url => $urlofthisphoto,
});
Not difficult, but that would create a _lot_ of discussions. You'd have to rework the code/template that lists them.
Personally, the plugin system's pretty easy. And if you don't like the way some of the stock code works, write a plugin (use the hooks to your advantage, if they're there) to change it.
FYI, when I wrote Slash::Galleria (photo gallery plugin) I opted to do the one discussion/gallery. I didn't think there'd be enough posts per/photo to warrant the seperate discussions for each.
Funny, back when I was young it was skateboards (the wooden kind, with metal wheels, if you were lucky it had rubber wheels with ball-bearings) and bikes. Maybe a few Atari 2600 games. But those were so expensive, you were lucky enough to have an Atari, let alone a radio shack pong game or both (only because the radio shack unit precluded the atari) and pacman and adventure.
Then I got a bit older, got a job, saved up, bought my first Apple II. The rest is history, that purchase pretty much assured my learning assembly and becoming a geek.
But kids now-a-days, pc's are everyhere. They don't have to work to get it.
Which is the point I'm getting at. I'm not over 40, but I have a teenager that's approaching 17. She's the same way. Put $100 in her pocket, and it'd burn a hole. Assume she'd save it for a car? Ah, think again. It amazes me what she will choose to spend her money on. And I'm guessing you are in the same situation.
The good thing (imho) is that you, and I, are able to give our kids the *choice* of how to spend money.
If my kids blow their birthday/holiday/allowance money, that's it. They're stuck at home. So they, over the years (since they where pre-teens) were forced to evaluate the $ versus the value, and what it means to them - forced to budget everything.
It still boggles my mind that they buy such weird/extravagent (in "the parent's mind") things. But then I try to compare relatively their situation vs mine when I was a kid. Then I realize how lucky they are, and I was. Not rich, but not poor, with the opportunity to work for more if you were up to it.
And now that I'm getting older, I'm thankful that I'm able to make their lives so easy (imho, not theirs!). I often wonder what path my life would've taken without that first ti-99-4/a to tweak my interest in all of this shit.
> without root access
That's pretty much what the documentation tells you, no?
There are hosting services that'll do Slash for you.
Atleast you didn't post anonymously making those claims.
Now back them up, because I'm pretty sure I can show you're wrong on just about everything you've stated in your post.
So let's see references to backup your claims please & thankyou.
Interesting feature requests you've got there. All good ideas (IMHO). Do you have any more? If so please post them. Who knows, maybe someone will code 'em up :)
let Johny Boy fight his porn war
No! He's wasting taxpayer money. Infact, the whole program of agents reading normal porn 8 hours a day is a friggin resource waste. Let them find the kiddie porn wackos. Or bin Laden.
My guess is that after the November election, this goes bye-bye. Swept under the rug like many other things that Bush's campaign is bringing up to try and drum up support from some of his more 'conservative' followers.
Have you installed Slash? What were your experiences?
Yes, I've installed it many, many times. I've used it to run a number of websites, and submitted patches, bug reports, etc for it.
Overall, IMHO, it's a great backend for websites.
So they are short on supply now.
They're going to expand the market world-wide this summer.
They will be extremely short this fall/winter for the holiday season if they don't ramp production up. Infact, if they drop the price another $50, like a lot of people have been guesstimating, they'd better be prepared for the customers clammoring for it for xmas/holiday gifts.
Now if only they would come out with wireless sharing on it so I could browse other people's libraries at the gym, that would be sweet.
Oh c'mon. The gyms for working out. Leave the wireless surfing for other venues. It drives me nuts to see people chattin more then lifting. I'd loath the day when more people were scoping wireless *and* gabbing away.
Yes, slash would work.
As for the bug you refer to, is it in slash's buglist on sf.net? If not, you should report it. That's mainly how stuff gets fixed.
As for installing Slash, if you've got perl and apache setup correctly, installing Slash is a piece of cake... just 'make install'. That's *vastly* overstating. My best advice is go grab the src from cvs and give it a try.
I think most places save money (or earn money back) against their IT investment because:
"let it ring, let it ring, let it ring"
That's what I did. And except for phones w/ walkie-talkie service (damned Nextel's!) that works great.
When we had nextels, my wife and I would be vegging on the couch in the evening, and the nextel would beep and my boss would be going "are you there"...99% of the time it was something that could easily have waited till the morning.
We've since switched to sprint, and life is good.
I have really come to hate being in the kitchen like this. At least one parent is always doing something to piss me off. I need to be away from them.
You're 18. Move out. Simple, eh?