Terminal 5 mixes international passengers and domestic passengers into one area. This system hypothetically prevents people who just got off of an international flight from getting on to a domestic flight and not going through immigration.
I have heard there's a terminal at Gatwick that does the same thing, but they only check passports manually, no biometric check is used.
You might ask the question--why the hell do they insist on mixing international and domestic passengers? Though I don't know why conclusively, I suspect the main reason is that the BAA (the authority that runs the London Airports) is trying to maximize sales at the retail shops in Terminal 5 (because that's what the BAA is notorious for.) If passengers are separated, shops would lose out on the passengers that are not in that part of the terminal. This way everyone has access to the Cinnabun.
Go ahead and read the paper that's in my signature line. It's something I wrote. My hypothesis is that the only way you can prevent driving license fraud is to actually make the document worthless (or significantly less valued) for identification. Inherently the scale is too big for anything else to work effectively.
I was horrified when I first learned that some states collect fingerprints for licensing. I'm still in disbelief that so many people put themselves through that.
Amusingly though, for the last year or so, I've had a skin condition that's wiped out about half my fingerprints.
Secondly, I know people who look like nothing like license card.
An interesting issue caused by the affection for color photographs. The features of the face are better read by the brain if the photograph is in black and white.
Why are license pictures in color? It's a bad habit, but my theory is that the reason we (Americans that is) have photos on our licenses in the first place is because of Polaroid, who introduced instant color photograph in the mid 1960's and was shopping for some schmuck to buy it. The clever lobbyists at Polaroid convinced states that the photos must be in color and taken by the state (so they get the revenue, and the person doesn't bring in the photograph (like for a passport.)
Secondly, in this day and age of identity theft, you don't want to make it too convenient for someone to turn up claiming to be a person that everyone thought was dead.
Yes, but in the instance of someone stealing my identity after I'm dead--meh. Go ahead, in fact, I insist. It'll be a fitting fuck you to the world.
If your card does not match what they have on record
From what I recall, the DMV admitted, as late as a few years ago, that they didn't have the capability of matching thumbprints. That may have changed.
The California DMV is screwed almost any way they look at it. They issues 25,000 ID cards per day and the opportunities for adding bad ID cards to that are just extraordinary. What baffles me is the naivete that people have in accepting them.
But if you have an ID, it will be easier for you to prove you are alive
Unless of course your ID expires at the same time that a bureaucratic snafu happens to be in progress. In the last few years (and not necessarily for any good reason) organizations are refusing to honor expired ID cards.
I laugh at an idea I've had regarding this...imagine a movie about a dystopian future where your ID card is LCD like--so information can be changed on it, perhaps even remotely.
I imagine the hero of the film getting himself locked in some sorta Kafkaesque situation, and he grabs his ID card, and he watches in horror as it goes blank on him and then it only reads:
"This identity has been temporarily disabled."
(Apologies if some other sci-fi writer beat me to this.)
please make sure that all models are wearing mTube approved burqas
I saw the movie Persepolis yesterday. There's a scene where a bunch of people are in a college art class, sitting at easels with pencils in hand, trying to draw a woman who is covered head to toe in a black cape (but with a veil so that you can see her face. The burqa doesn't show the face.) The main character laments that she's "the same from every angle" and that all she can do is draw her nose.
Your joke about mtube may be a lot closer to the truth than one would think.
I guess that I don't think of that as noteworthy, because it's to be expected. An intellectual likely has a larger and much more complex set of objectives. A wheeler-deeler may have no other objective than to get re-elected.
I could see why you'd disagree with the characterization of Kucinich as a thinker, but, I've been told that he has some enormous abilities (by people whose opinions I respect on the issue, so I admit that I don't really know myself.)
You're right that Paul isn't an academic, strictly speaking, but I think he approaches many political decisions in a rigorous intellectual framework--which is academic-like.
Intellectuals make terrible politicians. You need a wheeling-dealing sort, not a thinker.
That depends on what you're trying to achieve. If you're just trying to get pork for your district, sure, go with the same old same old. But as a country, we're better off having the occasional thinker--like a Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich, occupying a congressional seat as well. And all things considered, those two pack quite a lot more political punch than they're given credit for.
The current credit/mortgage crisis would suggest otherwise.
Citigroup lost almost $10 billion in just the 4th quarter. A lot of big regional and national banks lost money and 2008 will probably continue to be an ugly year for them.
Banks abandoned their usual conservative ways and got caught up in the greed of the expanding housing market.
The Constitution only requires that you live in the same state that the House district's in. (Verify here.)
Now this can be a problem if the opponent does live in the district and makes a big deal out of it (i.e. "I've lived in California's 25th all my life...my opponent only visits for good sushi") but the usefulness of that depends on how different the districts might be or how far away district lines are.
If someone gets elected to represent a district they don't live in, they typically go through the routine of pretending they live there. But even that's optional.
If a government wants to introduce something like this against opposition, they simply have to make it non-compulsory but inconvenient NOT to adopt the measure.
That's exactly how we got stuck with SSNs and photo driving licenses.
New York State was one of the last states to add the photograph to the license--well into the late 1980's many people in that state didn't have photo ID because many of them didn't drive--the inconvenience of not having a license was minimal thanks to public transport in New York City.
At this point in time, everything to do with voting undermines public confidence in it. Since 2000 we entered a collective mindset which allows us to say that any election result not in our favor is due to some problem with voting. (Like lack of photo ID, or hacked e-voting machines, or chain of custody issues, etc.)
Some of that is funny to me, because the framework for vote allocation (winner takes all) and gerrymandering are pretty big hacks on the wishes of the people.
Nevertheless, I think there will be a time where you'll be submitting DNA swabs to vote on paper ballots with half a dozen carbon copies and people still will think of voter fraud as a problem.
I've told people here that I see no problem with the Secretary of State having a campaign reminding Ohioans to vote by saying things like: "Your vote counts! It's worth at least four California votes and six Texas votes!"
A software glitch of this type (if that's what it was) has never happened in aviation history.
Though it's not conclusively known, a software glitch is one of the suspects in the mid-air thrust reverser deployment that brought down Lauda Air 004.
Its about myspace getting some publicity and paying lip service to doing the right thing.
I disagree. This was all about elected politicians getting publicity and paying lip service to make it appear they are doing something about a "problem" that was way overblown by the media to begin with.
Myspace is going along with it because they have to--but the horse and pony show belongs to the state attorney generals, not Myspace.
Virtually everyone here double-checks my license when they ask me for it, mainly because 90% of them don't believe that it expires in like 2037 (gotta love Arizona;-). Some of them even pull out that booklet of official license formats to check it. RealID would eliminate this necessity.
REAL ID doesn't change document expiration or visual design standards. Arizona licenses will still be valid until age 65 and yes, there most definitely will be that little book post REAL ID act enactment (if it happens. I have a feeling it won't.)
There have been previous attempts to standardize the licenses visually, which basically would require all the states to use the same license making equipment and use the same security features--which would be a disaster. (It would make counterfeiting absurdly easy if there were only one national document to counterfeit.)
Be very thankful that the system in the US is far, far from true democracy and is extremely unresponsive and accomplishes little.
I'm afraid I can't agree. Not that I don't agree with the intent--the system the framers put together is quite good for that original purpose. It's that government has spiralled out of control anyway and we are, for good and bad, highly dependent on its ability to make decisions and do things. No matter what your position on health care is, for instance, it's undeniable that the federal government is playing a major role*, and something more like a parliamentary system would help the government make better decisions about it.
*I might add that having the federal government play a major role there is not my political preference. But if it has to be that way, it might as well be done better.
Now there's an Internet, you do not need to carry ID.
Actually, one thing this article doesn't mention is whether the document has a photograph on it or not (though the article does say it can't be used for air travel which implies the document has no photo.)
So it sounds to me like the card and it's chip are just a key that opens up the ID file they use to pass you through--just as you suggested.
This is an issue of particular note in Ohio, given that electronic voting machine fraud in that state in 2004 may well have been responsible for the outcome of that year's Presidential race
While there may have been problem with the 2004 Ohio vote, electronic machines were not the cause because they weren't used.
In 2004 70% of Ohio counties had punch cards, the rest had scantron, and about 3 or 4 had old style "Shouptronic" machines. Ohio counties did not start adopting DREs until 2005.
but logic should indicate that a tiny little hole will not lead to a catastrophic failure
You know when you're in an airplane bathroom, and you use the sink, in order to drain the sink you have to press a button which opens the drain and you hear a "wooshing" sound?
Aircraft lavatory sinks drain directly to the outside of the aircraft. There is a heater along the tube that connects the drain to the outside to make sure the water doesn't freeze at the end and create a block of ice (but it has happened before.)
Clearly, you could open all the lavatory sink drains wide open with little change to the cabin pressure.
(Obviously toilet water is kept in a tank and emptied at the airport. When blue ice falls it's because a valve has become stuck in the wrong way on the outside of the jet.)
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Then why are you doing it?
It's *not* for preventing terrorism.
Terminal 5 mixes international passengers and domestic passengers into one area. This system hypothetically prevents people who just got off of an international flight from getting on to a domestic flight and not going through immigration.
I have heard there's a terminal at Gatwick that does the same thing, but they only check passports manually, no biometric check is used.
You might ask the question--why the hell do they insist on mixing international and domestic passengers? Though I don't know why conclusively, I suspect the main reason is that the BAA (the authority that runs the London Airports) is trying to maximize sales at the retail shops in Terminal 5 (because that's what the BAA is notorious for.) If passengers are separated, shops would lose out on the passengers that are not in that part of the terminal. This way everyone has access to the Cinnabun.
Go ahead and read the paper that's in my signature line. It's something I wrote. My hypothesis is that the only way you can prevent driving license fraud is to actually make the document worthless (or significantly less valued) for identification. Inherently the scale is too big for anything else to work effectively.
I was horrified when I first learned that some states collect fingerprints for licensing. I'm still in disbelief that so many people put themselves through that.
Amusingly though, for the last year or so, I've had a skin condition that's wiped out about half my fingerprints.
Secondly, I know people who look like nothing like license card.
An interesting issue caused by the affection for color photographs. The features of the face are better read by the brain if the photograph is in black and white.
Why are license pictures in color? It's a bad habit, but my theory is that the reason we (Americans that is) have photos on our licenses in the first place is because of Polaroid, who introduced instant color photograph in the mid 1960's and was shopping for some schmuck to buy it. The clever lobbyists at Polaroid convinced states that the photos must be in color and taken by the state (so they get the revenue, and the person doesn't bring in the photograph (like for a passport.)
Secondly, in this day and age of identity theft, you don't want to make it too convenient for someone to turn up claiming to be a person that everyone thought was dead.
Yes, but in the instance of someone stealing my identity after I'm dead--meh. Go ahead, in fact, I insist. It'll be a fitting fuck you to the world.
If your card does not match what they have on record
From what I recall, the DMV admitted, as late as a few years ago, that they didn't have the capability of matching thumbprints. That may have changed.
The California DMV is screwed almost any way they look at it. They issues 25,000 ID cards per day and the opportunities for adding bad ID cards to that are just extraordinary. What baffles me is the naivete that people have in accepting them.
But if you have an ID, it will be easier for you to prove you are alive
Unless of course your ID expires at the same time that a bureaucratic snafu happens to be in progress. In the last few years (and not necessarily for any good reason) organizations are refusing to honor expired ID cards.
I laugh at an idea I've had regarding this...imagine a movie about a dystopian future where your ID card is LCD like--so information can be changed on it, perhaps even remotely.
I imagine the hero of the film getting himself locked in some sorta Kafkaesque situation, and he grabs his ID card, and he watches in horror as it goes blank on him and then it only reads:
"This identity has been temporarily disabled."
(Apologies if some other sci-fi writer beat me to this.)
please make sure that all models are wearing mTube approved burqas
I saw the movie Persepolis yesterday. There's a scene where a bunch of people are in a college art class, sitting at easels with pencils in hand, trying to draw a woman who is covered head to toe in a black cape (but with a veil so that you can see her face. The burqa doesn't show the face.) The main character laments that she's "the same from every angle" and that all she can do is draw her nose.
Your joke about mtube may be a lot closer to the truth than one would think.
I guess that I don't think of that as noteworthy, because it's to be expected. An intellectual likely has a larger and much more complex set of objectives. A wheeler-deeler may have no other objective than to get re-elected.
I could see why you'd disagree with the characterization of Kucinich as a thinker, but, I've been told that he has some enormous abilities (by people whose opinions I respect on the issue, so I admit that I don't really know myself.)
You're right that Paul isn't an academic, strictly speaking, but I think he approaches many political decisions in a rigorous intellectual framework--which is academic-like.
Intellectuals make terrible politicians. You need a wheeling-dealing sort, not a thinker.
That depends on what you're trying to achieve. If you're just trying to get pork for your district, sure, go with the same old same old. But as a country, we're better off having the occasional thinker--like a Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich, occupying a congressional seat as well. And all things considered, those two pack quite a lot more political punch than they're given credit for.
bankers aren't about losing money
The current credit/mortgage crisis would suggest otherwise.
Citigroup lost almost $10 billion in just the 4th quarter. A lot of big regional and national banks lost money and 2008 will probably continue to be an ugly year for them.
Banks abandoned their usual conservative ways and got caught up in the greed of the expanding housing market.
The Constitution only requires that you live in the same state that the House district's in. (Verify here.)
Now this can be a problem if the opponent does live in the district and makes a big deal out of it (i.e. "I've lived in California's 25th all my life...my opponent only visits for good sushi") but the usefulness of that depends on how different the districts might be or how far away district lines are.
If someone gets elected to represent a district they don't live in, they typically go through the routine of pretending they live there. But even that's optional.
If a government wants to introduce something like this against opposition, they simply have to make it non-compulsory but inconvenient NOT to adopt the measure.
That's exactly how we got stuck with SSNs and photo driving licenses.
New York State was one of the last states to add the photograph to the license--well into the late 1980's many people in that state didn't have photo ID because many of them didn't drive--the inconvenience of not having a license was minimal thanks to public transport in New York City.
but all U.S. cars have a bar code visible through the windshield
I believe only GM has the VIN bar code. I don't remember seeing it on other cars.
And my european made GM car (Saab) doesn't have the bar code.
At this point in time, everything to do with voting undermines public confidence in it. Since 2000 we entered a collective mindset which allows us to say that any election result not in our favor is due to some problem with voting. (Like lack of photo ID, or hacked e-voting machines, or chain of custody issues, etc.)
Some of that is funny to me, because the framework for vote allocation (winner takes all) and gerrymandering are pretty big hacks on the wishes of the people.
Nevertheless, I think there will be a time where you'll be submitting DNA swabs to vote on paper ballots with half a dozen carbon copies and people still will think of voter fraud as a problem.
Ohio! Committed to throwing elections since 1803!
I've told people here that I see no problem with the Secretary of State having a campaign reminding Ohioans to vote by saying things like: "Your vote counts! It's worth at least four California votes and six Texas votes!"
but I don't recall what was finally done with the ballots.
The current Secretary of State ordered them retained.
A software glitch of this type (if that's what it was) has never happened in aviation history.
Though it's not conclusively known, a software glitch is one of the suspects in the mid-air thrust reverser deployment that brought down Lauda Air 004.
Its about myspace getting some publicity and paying lip service to doing the right thing.
I disagree. This was all about elected politicians getting publicity and paying lip service to make it appear they are doing something about a "problem" that was way overblown by the media to begin with.
Myspace is going along with it because they have to--but the horse and pony show belongs to the state attorney generals, not Myspace.
Virtually everyone here double-checks my license when they ask me for it, mainly because 90% of them don't believe that it expires in like 2037 (gotta love Arizona ;-). Some of them even pull out that booklet of official license formats to check it. RealID would eliminate this necessity.
REAL ID doesn't change document expiration or visual design standards. Arizona licenses will still be valid until age 65 and yes, there most definitely will be that little book post REAL ID act enactment (if it happens. I have a feeling it won't.)
There have been previous attempts to standardize the licenses visually, which basically would require all the states to use the same license making equipment and use the same security features--which would be a disaster. (It would make counterfeiting absurdly easy if there were only one national document to counterfeit.)
Be very thankful that the system in the US is far, far from true democracy and is extremely unresponsive and accomplishes little.
I'm afraid I can't agree. Not that I don't agree with the intent--the system the framers put together is quite good for that original purpose. It's that government has spiralled out of control anyway and we are, for good and bad, highly dependent on its ability to make decisions and do things. No matter what your position on health care is, for instance, it's undeniable that the federal government is playing a major role*, and something more like a parliamentary system would help the government make better decisions about it.
*I might add that having the federal government play a major role there is not my political preference. But if it has to be that way, it might as well be done better.
Now there's an Internet, you do not need to carry ID.
Actually, one thing this article doesn't mention is whether the document has a photograph on it or not (though the article does say it can't be used for air travel which implies the document has no photo.)
So it sounds to me like the card and it's chip are just a key that opens up the ID file they use to pass you through--just as you suggested.
Who said it has to be all finished in one day?
No one actually. I believe few care.
The problem is finding all the people required to stick around and count ballots, which is a more than boring task.
So we have separate federal, state, and occasionally even local elections, along with separate referendums where required.
A significant difference. They tend to be grouped together here.
This is an issue of particular note in Ohio, given that electronic voting machine fraud in that state in 2004 may well have been responsible for the outcome of that year's Presidential race
While there may have been problem with the 2004 Ohio vote, electronic machines were not the cause because they weren't used.
In 2004 70% of Ohio counties had punch cards, the rest had scantron, and about 3 or 4 had old style "Shouptronic" machines. Ohio counties did not start adopting DREs until 2005.
but logic should indicate that a tiny little hole will not lead to a catastrophic failure
You know when you're in an airplane bathroom, and you use the sink, in order to drain the sink you have to press a button which opens the drain and you hear a "wooshing" sound?
Aircraft lavatory sinks drain directly to the outside of the aircraft. There is a heater along the tube that connects the drain to the outside to make sure the water doesn't freeze at the end and create a block of ice (but it has happened before.)
Clearly, you could open all the lavatory sink drains wide open with little change to the cabin pressure.
(Obviously toilet water is kept in a tank and emptied at the airport. When blue ice falls it's because a valve has become stuck in the wrong way on the outside of the jet.)