I was with you until you used a racist slur against people from Mongolia. Seriously, is that fucking necessary?
Oh, sure, you bleeding hearts whine about the poor oppressed Mongols now, but you'll be shitting your pants and crying for your mama when the horde is breaching your walls.
yeah, but i can sit on my front porch and do the same thing legally. i guess people only have a problem when it's law enforcement that can do the same things i can legally do.
Wow, the parent has been knocked as both flamebait and troll. The Apple cultists (and their alt accounts) are out in force on this one.
The reason they don't is that Apple cultists are submissive people who worship fashion and crave social status (which is only perceived by themselves). The quality of the engineering is of minor importance, and generally only matters to the degree that it exceeds some Microsoft effort.
You won't find them clamoring for an open iPhone because it would diminish the importance of the brand in which they've invested so much of their identity. How can they feel important when all the technical interest in the iPhone shifts away from Apple and to those implementing software for the device?
They will be cheering when Apple renders these efforts moot by fixing the holes in the next update. Freedom, power, utility - these things matter not to them. They are artists and dreamers, socialites who continue the tradition of courtier and courtesan. No dirty hacker should have the right to tarnish their jewelry.
At the current price point and locked into AT&T? Do you honestly believe the sales rate will increase after that ridiculously hyped launch? This isn't the Wii, everyone who just had to have an iPhone has one already. Those on the fence are waiting for the price to drop or their contracts to run out.
It's fairly thin on information but if true, this will lead to good things. Like hopefully permission from Apple.
Ah, the blind faith of a True Believer. I suppose the crippled nature of the device is a test, and by defeating it you are found worthy in Jobs' eyes? And the next time you plug it into iTunes, instead of silently patching these "flaws", it will release everyone's phone from bondage!
One guy in the audience asked how he was supposed to pay for his university education by releasing free software.
And gol' darn it, how'm ah s'post to grow this here cotton without mah slaves!
He thought closed source software was a greater imposition on freedom than holding wedding memories hostage.
Those terrorists!
Why is it that free software detractors always seem to be people who want something for nothing? It's not enough to steal from the free software community, they want to steal from photographers too!
If a password lock is still too complicated, I believe a simpler security device is more appropriate for the level of competence you're supporting. (Yes, I waited all day to safely google that.)
BTW, while you were at work, someone might have broken into your home and installed spying software on your PC. Oh, sure, it's highly unlikely, but the risk is real and you must be warned!
It's about a statement made by a spokesperson (which is the first tip-off that you need to look a little deeper)
So, what has your expert digging found that contradicts the words of the Global Security Team Manager at RIM?
And if you want to be an effective bullshitter, you might want to employ some consistency in your rhetoric, as you have little else. If your talking point started out as "important people might have important data compromised", you shouldn't change it to "unimportant people don't have a security policy" when shown that those risks have simple solutions.
I'm saying that security on these devices IS a concern
The security of these devices is the best on the market, which is the reason they are the only type allowed by some government agencies. Research in Motion has security experts with graduate degrees on their payroll, are you claiming to know better than them?
You are a karma whore trying to make an issue of the fact that computers designed to run software can run software.
A disgruntled/bribed tech could very easily install this.
ZOMG! I've even heard of these people having access to the boss's desktop PC, even the email server! Imagine what they could do with such power!
A competent administrator would set the security policy of the device to disallow the installation of unapproved software. Oh, but let's not let that get in the way of hysterical FUD.
I think a lot of people criticising the iPhone at the moment still haven't made the leap from "this is a phone. It does X,Y,Z" to "this is a fully-fledged computer, masquerading as a phone" - with all that that implies.
Then you understand nothing. The iPhone critics are thinking "this is a fully-fledged handheld computer, running the same operating system as my laptop, that has been intentionally crippled to protect the artificial market segmentation desired by AT&T and Apple."
Indeed. And we should never criticize Microsoft, or the RIAA, or network neutrality opponents like AT&T.
After all, if we never buy software, or music, or use the internet, these groups have no influence over our lives and we should really just mind our own business.
The funny thing is that I could care less about the free software zealots - the iPhone is an ominous trend because it signifies a future where general purpose computers don't exist, and instead you have specialized appliances which only work on proprietary networks. It is as much a threat to people who like to make money as it is to those who give it away, because it means the hardware manufacturer and the network carrier are both gatekeepers on who is and isn't allowed to write software.
We should be helping the music cartels kill themselves, not trying to convince them of the stupidity of their actions. And I would rather my beloved internet radio stations go out as martyrs than forever hear them begging me for donations that will just end up going to the RIAA mobsters.
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A: You can't. They all have this same characteristic - whether it's a stylus (Treo) or a Crackberry, they all require two hands for effective operation.
If you had said Windows Mobile, you might have retained credibility. But I think you're confusing "writing text" with "effective operation". I don't even believe you've ever actually used a Treo or BlackBerry.
What is up with Jobs selling nonexistent features?
Ringtone business gets a tease: Mr. Jobs: One might imagine a lot of things down the road. Mr. Jobs: There's a lot of things you can imagine down the road.
But you can forget 3G in revision one: Mr. Jobs: No, we just don't comment on future stuff.
I also got a kick out of this: Mr. Jobs: There's often times a Wi-Fi network that you can join whether you're sitting in a coffee shop or even walking along the street piggybacking on somebody's home Wi-Fi network.
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There is this "meme" spreading that the iPhone is a general purpose computer that could be useful to an enterprise.
Did they patch that flaw?
(And please provide links to these ZOMG 0-day SPLOITZ! I have a great need to take over phones and bring down the network. HACK THE PLANET!)
I was with you until you used a racist slur against people from Mongolia. Seriously, is that fucking necessary?
Oh, sure, you bleeding hearts whine about the poor oppressed Mongols now, but you'll be shitting your pants and crying for your mama when the horde is breaching your walls.
Be careful with your rhetoric... you yourself come off as a zealot by pointing out other zealots.
All the better to sink their mod points... keeping more legitimate criticism from being censored.
Hey, don't forget SETI vs. the nuts who want to broadcast our position to the Berserkers!
yeah, but i can sit on my front porch and do the same thing legally. i guess people only have a problem when it's law enforcement that can do the same things i can legally do.
Uh, wrong.
I believe it is the cataloging the time and location of thousands of innocent people which is causing the problem.
But after all, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
Wow, the parent has been knocked as both flamebait and troll. The Apple cultists (and their alt accounts) are out in force on this one.
The reason they don't is that Apple cultists are submissive people who worship fashion and crave social status (which is only perceived by themselves). The quality of the engineering is of minor importance, and generally only matters to the degree that it exceeds some Microsoft effort.
You won't find them clamoring for an open iPhone because it would diminish the importance of the brand in which they've invested so much of their identity. How can they feel important when all the technical interest in the iPhone shifts away from Apple and to those implementing software for the device?
They will be cheering when Apple renders these efforts moot by fixing the holes in the next update. Freedom, power, utility - these things matter not to them. They are artists and dreamers, socialites who continue the tradition of courtier and courtesan. No dirty hacker should have the right to tarnish their jewelry.
At the current price point and locked into AT&T? Do you honestly believe the sales rate will increase after that ridiculously hyped launch? This isn't the Wii, everyone who just had to have an iPhone has one already. Those on the fence are waiting for the price to drop or their contracts to run out.
Do you honestly think the iPhone isn't a niche? RIM is moving over two million BlackBerries a quarter, let me know when the iPhone catches up.
That's a good one. Vim on the iPhone. Good luck staying on the home row.
Unless ssh'd in, Vim would be absurd on an iPhone.
It does, however, give one the ability to copy and paste.
It's fairly thin on information but if true, this will lead to good things. Like hopefully permission from Apple.
Ah, the blind faith of a True Believer. I suppose the crippled nature of the device is a test, and by defeating it you are found worthy in Jobs' eyes? And the next time you plug it into iTunes, instead of silently patching these "flaws", it will release everyone's phone from bondage!
One guy in the audience asked how he was supposed to pay for his university education by releasing free software.
And gol' darn it, how'm ah s'post to grow this here cotton without mah slaves!
He thought closed source software was a greater imposition on freedom than holding wedding memories hostage.
Those terrorists!
Why is it that free software detractors always seem to be people who want something for nothing? It's not enough to steal from the free software community, they want to steal from photographers too!
Heh, at first I thought you were ridiculing the kid-gloves being used by the reporter.
Teh MainStream Media has a librul bias! Except when it doesn't! Why does slashdot hate America?
but I've never seen a communications device that makes contact and calendar syncing so easy (bonus: it happens through the already-popular iTunes
I have - all of them.
What sucks is getting devices to work with anything other than Outlook.
These languages are brutish because they oversimplify key concepts.
And what concepts are those?
If a password lock is still too complicated, I believe a simpler security device is more appropriate for the level of competence you're supporting. (Yes, I waited all day to safely google that.)
BTW, while you were at work, someone might have broken into your home and installed spying software on your PC. Oh, sure, it's highly unlikely, but the risk is real and you must be warned!
It's about a statement made by a spokesperson (which is the first tip-off that you need to look a little deeper)
So, what has your expert digging found that contradicts the words of the Global Security Team Manager at RIM?
And if you want to be an effective bullshitter, you might want to employ some consistency in your rhetoric, as you have little else. If your talking point started out as "important people might have important data compromised", you shouldn't change it to "unimportant people don't have a security policy" when shown that those risks have simple solutions.
I'm saying that security on these devices IS a concern
The security of these devices is the best on the market, which is the reason they are the only type allowed by some government agencies. Research in Motion has security experts with graduate degrees on their payroll, are you claiming to know better than them?
You are a karma whore trying to make an issue of the fact that computers designed to run software can run software.
A disgruntled/bribed tech could very easily install this.
ZOMG! I've even heard of these people having access to the boss's desktop PC, even the email server! Imagine what they could do with such power!
A competent administrator would set the security policy of the device to disallow the installation of unapproved software. Oh, but let's not let that get in the way of hysterical FUD.
I think a lot of people criticising the iPhone at the moment still haven't made the leap from "this is a phone. It does X,Y,Z" to "this is a fully-fledged computer, masquerading as a phone" - with all that that implies.
Then you understand nothing. The iPhone critics are thinking "this is a fully-fledged handheld computer, running the same operating system as my laptop, that has been intentionally crippled to protect the artificial market segmentation desired by AT&T and Apple."
Indeed. And we should never criticize Microsoft, or the RIAA, or network neutrality opponents like AT&T.
After all, if we never buy software, or music, or use the internet, these groups have no influence over our lives and we should really just mind our own business.
The funny thing is that I could care less about the free software zealots - the iPhone is an ominous trend because it signifies a future where general purpose computers don't exist, and instead you have specialized appliances which only work on proprietary networks. It is as much a threat to people who like to make money as it is to those who give it away, because it means the hardware manufacturer and the network carrier are both gatekeepers on who is and isn't allowed to write software.
We should be helping the music cartels kill themselves, not trying to convince them of the stupidity of their actions. And I would rather my beloved internet radio stations go out as martyrs than forever hear them begging me for donations that will just end up going to the RIAA mobsters.
Yeah, status symbols for hipsters. And scientists, graphic artists, video producers, health care imaging professionals, audio engineers, photographers, radio broadcasters, software engineers, web developers, former VPs of the United States of America, etc. I suppose those folks could use your platform of choice to do their jobs, but they probably don't want to *need* people like you around to keep them patched and semi-secure. Nor do they want to associate with you, what with the food stained shirts, bad haircuts, and poor overall disposition due to your invariable inability to secure a sex partner. STFU and go back to your bag of cheetos.
A: You can't. They all have this same characteristic - whether it's a stylus (Treo) or a Crackberry, they all require two hands for effective operation.
If you had said Windows Mobile, you might have retained credibility. But I think you're confusing "writing text" with "effective operation". I don't even believe you've ever actually used a Treo or BlackBerry.
What is up with Jobs selling nonexistent features?
Ringtone business gets a tease:
Mr. Jobs: One might imagine a lot of things down the road.
Mr. Jobs: There's a lot of things you can imagine down the road.
But you can forget 3G in revision one:
Mr. Jobs: No, we just don't comment on future stuff.
I also got a kick out of this:
Mr. Jobs: There's often times a Wi-Fi network that you can join whether you're sitting in a coffee shop or even walking along the street piggybacking on somebody's home Wi-Fi network.
Theft of service, it's the Apple way!