I run a 'dual-platfom' shop (bread and butter boxes are HPUX, my desktop & primary mail reflector are linux) and was quite pleased to discover this Thursday. Built openssh for both platforms but only installed on the linux machine. I've since run into the problem of the old ssh clients (ssh-1.2.7) not consistently connecting to the new ssh (openssh) server using protocol v1. Things work fine after daemon init, but falter after some time. Forcing a ssh2/dsa connection is a little more reliable.
This really hurts me with scp stuff back and forth.
Problem manifests itself as a 'password incorrect' error. Nothing obvious when using -v at the client & debug/nodaemon flags at the server.
I've not fully digested this problem yet so I haven't majorly pursued this (or filed any bug report). I want to make sure it's not MY fault. If you have a sizable ssh1 implementation you may want to stick this on a single box & watch it a day or two. I plan to upgrade ALL my unix boxes.. but will still need some ssh1 support as my PD win (HUSH) ssh clients only support ssh1.
Thx to the OpenSSH team for 'helping' us with that goofyass ssh2 license problem the 'other' product has.
Heya Mozilla, how about a non-debugging build for the Milestones on those platforms w/o 'easy compile' options? Give all these THIS-POS-IS-TOO-DAMN-SLOW opportunists to see what a build looks like w/o all the debugging overhead.
Granted, you lose any option to debug problems the user may have, but perhaps at least give them the chance to see mozilla's true potential.
(fwiw, I'm downloading source and building w/ and w/o debugging enabled just for laughs.. I'm thinking more along the lines of Joe MacUsr or BillWinUsr who probably has no compiler ready. That, and I'm getting sick of the ITS-TOO-SLOW whining)
to burn Washington DC to the ground, sow salt over the ruins, and purge every last politician and burocratic parasite who have ever been a part of the American government.
Wow.
I've always held the belief we should invite all the state govt officials to DC for some BS pork-barrel-sponsored shindig with all the feds then tac-nuke the whole lot of them. Most people thought I was some hilljack backwoods militia type.. but the infestation of corrupt, self-preservation, lust-for-power types in US government is simply overwhelming. To find someone else thinks along the same lines as myself.. let alone in./... wow.
As any country we need leaders. What we don't need are leaders who THINK they are leaders and do everything to preserve that leadership instead of bettering their governed society.
but doesn't Washington DC have one of the highest murder rates in the United States?
That's the point. These 'highly effectual' gun laws have worked wonders to make the streets of Washington DC a far, far safer place to live. Don't you want to feel that safe where you live?
As an aside.. I heard a comment on the radio this afternoon I thought was interesting... seems this guy was getting crap from his mom-in-law about being against some pending gun legistation. His response: "so then why don't you put a sign in your window stating 'this house is a gun-free zone?'" Apparently shut the lady up. Those against gun ownership or are so supportive of gun control.. why don't you advertise your house as a gun-free area? See how comfortable you feel.
This bug also appears to work well if one uses Internet Explorer on HP-UX[0]. I'd say more but I'm highly ashamed as it is. If anyone actually uses this on HP or Solaris (or Mac?) you may want to check the referred-to test pages and see what nifty little tidbits appear before you.
[0] ok, I just wanted to see how badly IExplorer sucked on unix platforms. It's really quite entertaining.
my link is not missing a '/' in the closing a tag, and hence, works in any cocked-up semi-brain-dead POS browser I may have the goddamn pished-up misfortune in my pathetic hosed pitiful shitass little life at $x moment in time. hence, my link doesn't dangle open screaming look the fuck at me, i'm 3133t h4x0r d00d with b0tch3d 4ich t33 3m 311 in my miserable lameass post!!!11!1!!!!!111!.
wanker.
(btw, is extrans working? I previewed the above in extrans first and my bold tags were coming through unparsed...)
A place I semi-consult has a number of ergo keyboards all over the place, and suprisingly I didn't mind them. They felt natural, and if nothing else forced me to adhere to the conventional breakpoint of where your hands should go (that magic line along the TGB/YHN keys). They all have the default Microsoft Natural Keyboards. Probably the only thing worthy of Microsoft besides the Intellimice (well, okay, my Sidewinder doesn't suck too much either).
My typing skills are really kinda good so ymmv. My mom (who was a typing teacher) still cringes a lot, however.:)
Oh, that newest Microsoft SuperNatural KeyboardElite USB with all those little chicklet buttons along the top? Sucks rocks. Don't even bother to return it.. toss it in the nearest river and spare someone else the agony.
1: Aureal has promised this crap already and hasn't delivered (remember this article?). If this is 'much sooner than you think,' they can save their ad dollars. I only have one because it came in my Dell, and I think with this track record I'm not spending MY money on their stuff (the Dell is a work box).
2: From the readme.txt in the drivers section of linux.aureal.com:
This driver has been tested on the following distributions:
Red Hat 6.0, kernel version 2.2.5-15. Red Hat 6.1, kernel version 2.2.12-20. Red Hat 6.1, kernel version 2.2.13.
Hey Aureal! REDHAT ALONE DOES NOT LINUX MAKE. They may (probably will) work under the wondrous Slack7 I use, among others (debian? mandrake SuSE?) but to ignore these segments at a minimum is shortsighted, at a maximum is just plain stupid and shitty.
3: Binaries. What more needs to be said (though I understand source is coming, so that can be forgiven).
I like the sound from the Dell and the fact it appears to do duplex output.. but this dragging-of-the-feet for linux support has me considering against any Aureal hardware for future purchases.
I mean, COME ON.. DIVX. Suing a public-domain reverse-engineering software author for a decoder that simply exploited a stupid hole by a stupid licensee/encryptor. Now this.
I've been intending to plunk my hard-earned cash down on a Sony 550 and shifting my VHS library to DVD. The main reasons I haven't so far has been economic (waiting for prices to come a little lower) and political (not wanting to support a group all too willing to pursue rash and ignorant solutins to inherent problems of their system). The movie industry seems highly intent in not making the DVD format a success. I sure wish they would make up their damn minds whether to support it or not.
pardon my stupidity (the coffee hasn't really kicked in yet).. but can i install 3.3.6 binaries over top of my existing install (whatever is the default for slackware7) simply by using pkgtool? or are the.tgz files in the binaries/linux-x86-glibc2.1-whatever dir simply that....tgz with no additional pkgtool parts?
have mercy on me.. i have a dell behind me with exchange server on it, so my outlook[1] for the day/week is already bleak.
[1] no, that was not an intended pun.[2] [2] wow, now i think i'm gonna be sick.
Uhh, last time I checked, the government had to compensate private citizens for confiscation of property, such as land taken to build highways.
No, make that should. The grey-smoke phrase fair market value is also bandied about a LOT in those instances. The cold hard fact, however, is if you have land (or something else, for that matter) the government wants, they usually ending up getting it regardless of the owner seeing ANY return (let alone 'fair market value').
My family has gone through this twice in my father's lifetime (one because of a reservoir, one because of a freeway). We almost lost 1/3 of our farm to a third attempt (the US superconducting supercollider[1]). The only thing that really saved us was a hidden faultline somewhere along the area the ring would have passed through (in Ohio, no less). We also managed to find out we have excellent solid bedrock below some of our prime farmland.. but never ever were asked about doing a detailed survey.
There are still people in the O(hio)SU physics dept. I despise to this day.
[1] when i was young, i thought the physics world was fascinating. this whole episode, however, brought the more realistic (political) side to the whole scientific world for me, and as a result I can't help but wonder what others have (been forced to) sacrifice(d) in the holy name of Research. The scientists aren't to blame.. unless they use the government as their resource gathering arm.
it looks like each panel has its own db-15 input, so this makes it more doable. i'd drive each panel by its own box, connect all three boxes to the server, run the outer two in 'observer' mode and tweak their display angles/perspectives. with all the cg_* vars in quake/2/3 it shouldn't be hard to play w/the angles.
course, downsides are needing: -3 boxes with kickass graphics -3 connects into your server
but if it's to YOUR advantage, who the fsck cares!
First the privacy snafu, now this. The question, though, is who will get the blame for this.. Xing for failure to encrypt, or Real for not catching it? Who gets their ass tossed out the front door?
*snicker*
So, what to do now? Firmware updates? SuperMassive recall? (unlikely) An excuse to change the spec/format? At the least, all codes will^H^H^Hshould be strengthened, changed, etc.. I guess the overall question is...
How will the average consumer get bent over in this one?
-fester
Windows NT encountered the following error: The operation completed successfully.
Is the 486 the only machine you have? I've pondered building 3/486 kernels on my celeron box using the cpu-specific flags in config (ok, menuconfig.. sue me). I'd think theoretically it should work.. but I'd at least make damn sure the compilers match (or were at least the same vintage) between boxes should I build add-on modules later in the future.
Appears to be connecting to a cdinfo.real.com (208.147.89.220). Just for laughs, I blocked it at my fw to see if it would kill CDDB; it seemed to access after timeout failure with the cdinfo proxy.
Two other things here: first, the only checkbox to not send info to real is when contacting tech support via the app ("Send configuration information when connecting to Technical Support"). There is no "Send NO information to Real." Second, I saw posts talking about different sampling rates (96k max vs 150 and higher): folks, be sure you're talking about the right thing. There's realJukebox (this little flap) and realEncoder (for encoding a/v content only). realJuke (freeware, anyway) has a max encoding rate of 96kbps; realEncoder can be set to do any rate (a/v combined or separate).
If you're that paranoid (as I sometimes am) and want to fsck with real (as I do) then do two simple things; block them at the firewall (or use a fw product.. what, you don't have a cable modem and no protection do you?) and hack the entries in the registry to send false data*. If their data is invalid, what good is it to anyone?
-fester * note I take no responsibility if you hose your machine. if you don't know what the registry is (or why it's evil, see this as an example) then go back to your little gates-inspired fantasy world.
Something that didn't relate to the story I posted but keeps striking me with every new hardware release of Apple...
This 'excuse' of supplier problems resulting in inability to feed our consumer pipeline is, at this stage, plain BS. Apple has taken this 'excuse' as the mantra for its inability to supply any new model released. G4 CPUs, ATI chips in imacs.. this goes back before the friggin' original PPC 601 boxes.
We (myself included) are so intent on ripping software companies like Microsoft et al for rushing a product to market before all the bugs have been worked out. I feel Apple is guilty of the same thing on the hardware front; take a brand new technology or component with little or no time of release, build a wondrous system around it, then lament to the public willing to buy initial units "oh, sorry, $MFG can't make @COMPONENT fast enough so we can only send 3-4 per store for the first few months."
I could feel for Apple had this not been happening for YEARS. Apple has no one to blame for its slow return to profitability but itself. The fact they fail to learn from their past is quite pathetic. This entire debacle could have been avoided if Apple would have taken a little more time (2-3 months) to ensure Motorola had ample supply of chips and they worked as desired. This would have dug into the holiday sales tatget.. but again, after years of this experience it should be anticipated. The erratra flaw could have happened with virtually no end-user impact. And the busisness world wouldn't be pointing fingers and laughing, the customers woulnd't be frustrated with yet another appearance of Big Company Which Gives No Crap About Customers.
(For the record, I love Macs.. I still think they are excellent hardware even if hamstrung by the OS[another broken promise].. but the Mac I have is an SE/30 because I'm still waiting [praying?] for Apple to get its collective head out of its ass and do a few more things right. Until then, it's their own damn fault for not receiving my hard-earned $$$)
-fester
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This situation makes me wonder (as an admin in job-life) about the importance of things like off-site storage multiple redundant backups and the like for home data. It seems to drive the point home that we may have just as much important information on our home pc's as at our jobs.
Of course, having not scrolled through the complete list of responses, some four people probably already mentioned this. So I guess I should just go stuff my head up my $ORIFICE.
Oh, and sorry to hear it guys.. but I must admit i laughed damn near to urination reading the blurb in blockstackers. nice to see a sense of humor in such a situation.
You should be more curious (or concerned?) about where the market infrastructure of the ag industry. You have food prices going up, production costs shooting sky-high yet raw commodity prices (the $/bushel or whatever unit the farmer gets in return) are the lowest values they have been in 30+ years. A decent tractor costing ~$100k per, harvester costing ~$200k per, yet soybeans averaging $5.00/bushel, corn ~$2.00/bushel. How the hell can you expect to keep alive in this kinda busisness?
I come from a farm; I'm not continuing the tradition and in a way it breaks my heart. But today's market makes it almost impossible to do so. Think about that the next time you buy your $FOO at the grocery.
-fester
ps... some other values for semi-completenes. Say. ~35 bushel/acre bean yield, ~180 bu/ac corn. Beans can be $40-70/acre to produce, corn $30-60. Yields are estimates based on what our farm has done in the recent past, costs are semi-WAG based on schoolwork a number of years ago. And of course this ignores efficiencies, maint. costs, etc... and let's not get into property tax.
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I run a 'dual-platfom' shop (bread and butter boxes are HPUX, my desktop & primary mail reflector are linux) and was quite pleased to discover this Thursday. Built openssh for both platforms but only installed on the linux machine. I've since run into the problem of the old ssh clients (ssh-1.2.7) not consistently connecting to the new ssh (openssh) server using protocol v1. Things work fine after daemon init, but falter after some time. Forcing a ssh2/dsa connection is a little more reliable.
This really hurts me with scp stuff back and forth.
Problem manifests itself as a 'password incorrect' error. Nothing obvious when using -v at the client & debug/nodaemon flags at the server.
I've not fully digested this problem yet so I haven't majorly pursued this (or filed any bug report). I want to make sure it's not MY fault. If you have a sizable ssh1 implementation you may want to stick this on a single box & watch it a day or two. I plan to upgrade ALL my unix boxes.. but will still need some ssh1 support as my PD win (HUSH) ssh clients only support ssh1.
Thx to the OpenSSH team for 'helping' us with that goofyass ssh2 license problem the 'other' product has.
Heya Mozilla, how about a non-debugging build for the Milestones on those platforms w/o 'easy compile' options? Give all these THIS-POS-IS-TOO-DAMN-SLOW opportunists to see what a build looks like w/o all the debugging overhead.
Granted, you lose any option to debug problems the user may have, but perhaps at least give them the chance to see mozilla's true potential.
(fwiw, I'm downloading source and building w/ and w/o debugging enabled just for laughs.. I'm thinking more along the lines of Joe MacUsr or BillWinUsr who probably has no compiler ready. That, and I'm getting sick of the ITS-TOO-SLOW whining)
Wow.
I've always held the belief we should invite all the state govt officials to DC for some BS pork-barrel-sponsored shindig with all the feds then tac-nuke the whole lot of them. Most people thought I was some hilljack backwoods militia type.. but the infestation of corrupt, self-preservation, lust-for-power types in US government is simply overwhelming. To find someone else thinks along the same lines as myself.. let alone in ./ ... wow.
As any country we need leaders. What we don't need are leaders who THINK they are leaders and do everything to preserve that leadership instead of bettering their governed society.
That's the point. These 'highly effectual' gun laws have worked wonders to make the streets of Washington DC a far, far safer place to live. Don't you want to feel that safe where you live?
As an aside.. I heard a comment on the radio this afternoon I thought was interesting... seems this guy was getting crap from his mom-in-law about being against some pending gun legistation. His response: "so then why don't you put a sign in your window stating 'this house is a gun-free zone?'" Apparently shut the lady up. Those against gun ownership or are so supportive of gun control.. why don't you advertise your house as a gun-free area? See how comfortable you feel.
curling up with his ak-47 tonite,
This bug also appears to work well if one uses Internet Explorer on HP-UX[0]. I'd say more but I'm highly ashamed as it is. If anyone actually uses this on HP or Solaris (or Mac?) you may want to check the referred-to test pages and see what nifty little tidbits appear before you.
[0] ok, I just wanted to see how badly IExplorer sucked on unix platforms. It's really quite entertaining.
Possibly not. Previous shuttle missions have had Thinkpads in use, and for some reason I think even a powerbook has gone on at least one mission.
:)
Can't believe they've had laptops up there without experiencing that beautiful blue screen at least once...
wanker.
(btw, is extrans working? I previewed the above in extrans first and my bold tags were coming through unparsed...)
It's called preview. Learn to use it, you jackass.
read the subject, silly $PERSON.
:)
Label me a Carmack whore if you must, but any Quake[$x] comments by The Man deserve to be marked as such.
oh, and John.. sorry about another few watts of limelight..
A place I semi-consult has a number of ergo keyboards all over the place, and suprisingly I didn't mind them. They felt natural, and if nothing else forced me to adhere to the conventional breakpoint of where your hands should go (that magic line along the TGB/YHN keys). They all have the default Microsoft Natural Keyboards. Probably the only thing worthy of Microsoft besides the Intellimice (well, okay, my Sidewinder doesn't suck too much either).
:)
My typing skills are really kinda good so ymmv. My mom (who was a typing teacher) still cringes a lot, however.
Oh, that newest Microsoft SuperNatural KeyboardElite USB with all those little chicklet buttons along the top? Sucks rocks. Don't even bother to return it.. toss it in the nearest river and spare someone else the agony.
1: Aureal has promised this crap already and hasn't delivered (remember this article?). If this is 'much sooner than you think,' they can save their ad dollars. I only have one because it came in my Dell, and I think with this track record I'm not spending MY money on their stuff (the Dell is a work box).
2: From the readme.txt in the drivers section of linux.aureal.com:
This driver has been tested on the following distributions:
Red Hat 6.0, kernel version 2.2.5-15.
Red Hat 6.1, kernel version 2.2.12-20.
Red Hat 6.1, kernel version 2.2.13.
Hey Aureal! REDHAT ALONE DOES NOT LINUX MAKE. They may (probably will) work under the wondrous Slack7 I use, among others (debian? mandrake SuSE?) but to ignore these segments at a minimum is shortsighted, at a maximum is just plain stupid and shitty.
3: Binaries. What more needs to be said (though I understand source is coming, so that can be forgiven).
I like the sound from the Dell and the fact it appears to do duplex output.. but this dragging-of-the-feet for linux support has me considering against any Aureal hardware for future purchases.
I mean, COME ON.. DIVX. Suing a public-domain reverse-engineering software author for a decoder that simply exploited a stupid hole by a stupid licensee/encryptor. Now this.
I've been intending to plunk my hard-earned cash down on a Sony 550 and shifting my VHS library to DVD. The main reasons I haven't so far has been economic (waiting for prices to come a little lower) and political (not wanting to support a group all too willing to pursue rash and ignorant solutins to inherent problems of their system). The movie industry seems highly intent in not making the DVD format a success. I sure wish they would make up their damn minds whether to support it or not.
pardon my stupidity (the coffee hasn't really kicked in yet).. but can i install 3.3.6 binaries over top of my existing install (whatever is the default for slackware7) simply by using pkgtool? or are the .tgz files in the binaries/linux-x86-glibc2.1-whatever dir simply that... .tgz with no additional pkgtool parts?
have mercy on me.. i have a dell behind me with exchange server on it, so my outlook[1] for the day/week is already bleak.
[1] no, that was not an intended pun.[2]
[2] wow, now i think i'm gonna be sick.
Okay, not interleaving scanlines.. Frame interleaving?
either way, it simply looks like two-cards-on-one. No real forward progress, for me.
.. course, I'm also waiting for the fscking Guillemot Prophet DDRs (geForce) to hit the shelves locally.. hardware t&l... *sigh*
(pirst fost?)
Uhh, last time I checked, the government had to compensate private citizens for confiscation of property, such as land taken to build highways.
No, make that should. The grey-smoke phrase fair market value is also bandied about a LOT in those instances. The cold hard fact, however, is if you have land (or something else, for that matter) the government wants, they usually ending up getting it regardless of the owner seeing ANY return (let alone 'fair market value').
My family has gone through this twice in my father's lifetime (one because of a reservoir, one because of a freeway). We almost lost 1/3 of our farm to a third attempt (the US superconducting supercollider[1]). The only thing that really saved us was a hidden faultline somewhere along the area the ring would have passed through (in Ohio, no less). We also managed to find out we have excellent solid bedrock below some of our prime farmland.. but never ever were asked about doing a detailed survey.
There are still people in the O(hio)SU physics dept. I despise to this day.
[1] when i was young, i thought the physics world was fascinating. this whole episode, however, brought the more realistic (political) side to the whole scientific world for me, and as a result I can't help but wonder what others have (been forced to) sacrifice(d) in the holy name of Research. The scientists aren't to blame.. unless they use the government as their resource gathering arm.
from my story submissions page...
1999-12-13 11:26:44 Another country jumps on banning bandwagon (articles,news) (rejected)
wtf? My msg even posted the exact same damn url for the news story. this news is ~4 days old...
and while i'm at it.. i hate a browser that auto-selects the submit button when you hit the return key by mistake (micro$oft pos...)
it looks like each panel has its own db-15 input, so this makes it more doable. i'd drive each panel by its own box, connect all three boxes to the server, run the outer two in 'observer' mode and tweak their display angles/perspectives. with all the cg_* vars in quake/2/3 it shouldn't be hard to play w/the angles.
course, downsides are needing:
-3 boxes with kickass graphics
-3 connects into your server
but if it's to YOUR advantage, who the fsck cares!
-fester (where did i put those other two boxes?)
First the privacy snafu, now this. The question, though, is who will get the blame for this.. Xing for failure to encrypt, or Real for not catching it? Who gets their ass tossed out the front door?
*snicker*
So, what to do now? Firmware updates? SuperMassive recall? (unlikely) An excuse to change the spec/format? At the least, all codes will^H^H^Hshould be strengthened, changed, etc.. I guess the overall question is...
How will the average consumer get bent over in this one?
-fester
Windows NT encountered the following error: The operation completed successfully.
Is the 486 the only machine you have? I've pondered building 3/486 kernels on my celeron box using the cpu-specific flags in config (ok, menuconfig.. sue me). I'd think theoretically it should work.. but I'd at least make damn sure the compilers match (or were at least the same vintage) between boxes should I build add-on modules later in the future.
Two other things here: first, the only checkbox to not send info to real is when contacting tech support via the app ("Send configuration information when connecting to Technical Support"). There is no "Send NO information to Real." Second, I saw posts talking about different sampling rates (96k max vs 150 and higher): folks, be sure you're talking about the right thing. There's realJukebox (this little flap) and realEncoder (for encoding a/v content only). realJuke (freeware, anyway) has a max encoding rate of 96kbps; realEncoder can be set to do any rate (a/v combined or separate).
If you're that paranoid (as I sometimes am) and want to fsck with real (as I do) then do two simple things; block them at the firewall (or use a fw product.. what, you don't have a cable modem and no protection do you?) and hack the entries in the registry to send false data*. If their data is invalid, what good is it to anyone?
-fester
* note I take no responsibility if you hose your machine. if you don't know what the registry is (or why it's evil, see this as an example) then go back to your little gates-inspired fantasy world.
Something that didn't relate to the story I posted but keeps striking me with every new hardware release of Apple...
This 'excuse' of supplier problems resulting in inability to feed our consumer pipeline is, at this stage, plain BS. Apple has taken this 'excuse' as the mantra for its inability to supply any new model released. G4 CPUs, ATI chips in imacs.. this goes back before the friggin' original PPC 601 boxes.
We (myself included) are so intent on ripping software companies like Microsoft et al for rushing a product to market before all the bugs have been worked out. I feel Apple is guilty of the same thing on the hardware front; take a brand new technology or component with little or no time of release, build a wondrous system around it, then lament to the public willing to buy initial units "oh, sorry, $MFG can't make @COMPONENT fast enough so we can only send 3-4 per store for the first few months."
I could feel for Apple had this not been happening for YEARS. Apple has no one to blame for its slow return to profitability but itself. The fact they fail to learn from their past is quite pathetic. This entire debacle could have been avoided if Apple would have taken a little more time (2-3 months) to ensure Motorola had ample supply of chips and they worked as desired. This would have dug into the holiday sales tatget.. but again, after years of this experience it should be anticipated. The erratra flaw could have happened with virtually no end-user impact. And the busisness world wouldn't be pointing fingers and laughing, the customers woulnd't be frustrated with yet another appearance of Big Company Which Gives No Crap About Customers.
(For the record, I love Macs.. I still think they are excellent hardware even if hamstrung by the OS[another broken promise].. but the Mac I have is an SE/30 because I'm still waiting [praying?] for Apple to get its collective head out of its ass and do a few more things right. Until then, it's their own damn fault for not receiving my hard-earned $$$)
-fester
This situation makes me wonder (as an admin in job-life) about the importance of things like off-site storage multiple redundant backups and the like for home data. It seems to drive the point home that we may have just as much important information on our home pc's as at our jobs.
Of course, having not scrolled through the complete list of responses, some four people probably already mentioned this. So I guess I should just go stuff my head up my $ORIFICE.
Oh, and sorry to hear it guys.. but I must admit i laughed damn near to urination reading the blurb in blockstackers. nice to see a sense of humor in such a situation.
-fester(ing)
You should be more curious (or concerned?) about where the market infrastructure of the ag industry. You have food prices going up, production costs shooting sky-high yet raw commodity prices (the $/bushel or whatever unit the farmer gets in return) are the lowest values they have been in 30+ years. A decent tractor costing ~$100k per, harvester costing ~$200k per, yet soybeans averaging $5.00/bushel, corn ~$2.00/bushel. How the hell can you expect to keep alive in this kinda busisness?
I come from a farm; I'm not continuing the tradition and in a way it breaks my heart. But today's market makes it almost impossible to do so. Think about that the next time you buy your $FOO at the grocery.
-fester
ps... some other values for semi-completenes. Say. ~35 bushel/acre bean yield, ~180 bu/ac corn. Beans can be $40-70/acre to produce, corn $30-60. Yields are estimates based on what our farm has done in the recent past, costs are semi-WAG based on schoolwork a number of years ago. And of course this ignores efficiencies, maint. costs, etc... and let's not get into property tax.
Can anyone PLEASE point to ANY sparc iso images for 6.0.. or Redhat, will you please (in time) toss out a 6.1 iso image?
That IPC at home is lonely and wants to join in on the fun.
-fester (if hppa linux takes off, then they ALL can be linux boxen)
so where on god's green friggin earth would one find a sparc iso? of 6.0, even? judas, does the world revolve around the shitass intel architechure?
-fester
(please don't answer that.. i have intel, motorola, sparc and hppa at home...)