But what your not considering is that in order for your analogy to fit, you would have had to have kept a briefcase on the passenger seat containing the personal information of about 50000 people with big letters on the front saying "Confidential".
Whether he was stepping on your rights or not is relative... he could have been looking out for the rights of the 50000 individuals whose information you so carelessly left laying in your passenger seat with the window down.
Oh, here's an idea... let's all move to a country where most of the population despises Americans (just about any country other than Canada) and teach them to be like us or to do our jobs. At the same time, if they are paying their workers 1/3 of what we make (hello, third world pay), what do you think they are going to pay us to teach them?? Hell, look at what we pay OUR OWN teachers...
Why is it that every time this issue comes up, there is someone that comes up with the "boycott" idea. As this is the most unlikely situation, it is the stupidest recommendation. That is like saying, "Well, I don't like all the pollution cars are making, so I won't buy anymore gasoline." First of all, if you want to get anywhere that is farther that say, 20 miles, you need a polluting vehicle.(And yes, I know there are long distance bike riders, duh). And second, even if YOU boycotted their wares, there are plenty of sheep out there that won't. I agree that their monoplistic ways suck and that there are a lot of things that need to change in the entertainment industry, but a boycott is just a plain stupid idea.
Take any of the posts you see in this thread and replace "Kazaa/KazaaLite" with "Napster" and you have almost the exact same story...
You cannot legitimize something that is illegal. Abuse it while it is still here, because anyone who thinks that Kazaa will be any different from Napster ("dead man walking") is sadly mistaken.
What the hell do you think all the lawyers for any major corporation are going to do... They will nitpick the shit out of every word to bend it to their will.
Oh yeah, this sounds like a good idea... lets lock up a bunch students (ruining their lives, or at least their future careers) for doing something that we all did when we were younger... Anyone ever heard of cassettes?? And what were the main reasons we did it?? Well, we got to listen to a certain song whenever we wanted, we saved a little money, and it pissed off a bunch of people (which is something young people like to do for some reason... fun or some such). I can't speak for the teenagers and their like, but I can say that I DO buy more CDs now that I can sample the songs they don't play on the radio. Radio has turned into crap. If I want to listen to the same song over and over (a slight exageration) I will let my daughter hold the remote. Damn if she can't run a song into the ground.
Am I the only one who isn't understanding how you can hook up 17 hard drives at the same time??? I have an Abit board that does raid, but I don't know how to hook up more than 8.
Only one thing... I would think it unwise to put this case into a "cubbie" anyway. As you can see, the airflow design moves the air sideways instead of front to back. Even if it did fit, you would only be blocking all of the airflow unless you are going to cut holes in the sides of the cubbie.
Uh... I hate to tell you, but moving a mouse cursor (moving an object that controls moving a virtual object) is something my parents were doing a long long time ago... The object may have changed, but if I remember correctly, Pac-Man was a virtual object controlled by a joystick.
I was under the impression that the reason you were paying a monthly fee for the satellite radio was to get rid of the commercials. If the station doesn't have to worry about collecting revenues from advertising (ie. collecting a fee directly from the consumer) why are they putting in commercials? Why pay $250+ on equipment that will *really* get you nothing better that plain old am/fm? $10 a month just so you can hear the same station all across the country?? I think I agree on the idea of just spending your money on an in-dash mp3 player...
You know, it is a sad day when all of the collective conscience of the country is controlled by the thought of being sued for every goddamned thing that may or may not happen.
[OffTopic][Rant] Why is it that this country (US) produces more lawyers than anything else?? I'll tell you why. Because people in this country are becoming pansies and don't want to take responsibility for their own actions. Why not give the cuecats to all us hardware hackers out there?? Because someone might choke on it?? First of all, if you choke on a cuecat, you deserved to die for being so damned stupid for putting it in your mouth. Someone might get the thing hung up somewhere where it doesn't belong?? I think the humility of going to the hospital over that one was instilled very well from all the gerbils that died from that horrible fate.
When is everyone going to get back to taking responsibility for themselves without blaming all their problems on someone else and then trying to get rich from it?[/OffTopic][/Rant]
I tried the service a few months ago. The "no late fee" idea was a good one, but having to wait a week(!) for a movie to come in the mail was terrible. By the time the movie got to me, I would watch it same night, send it back the next day. But I could get 5 movies with 5 viewing days for the same money. I could only get 4 in a month because of the mail and still had to wait a week to watch it. That is if all the ppl on the west coast hadn't gotten them all first. I waited 3 weeks for a movie to come back in so they could send it to me. My girlfriend got so tired of waiting, decided to go get it from Blockbuster. Wouldn't you know it, showed up same day.
Uh, I think I have destroyed more kernels that I care to count by just *trying* to learn how things should be done. What did I do every time that happened?? The same thing I do every time I screw up a windows installation... I reload the OS. What will happen everytime "Aunt Tillie" screws up her kernel? The same thing she would do if it was Windows. That would be one of three things;
a) Take it to someone who can fix it.
b) Reload the OS. (You know, the same way you learned??)
c) Get a clue about how to fix it without reloading.
I don't know how all the elitist people learned, but I went through the steps above in the order listed. But c) didn't come about until I screwed it up to begin with, talked to and got help from someone else, and got tired of reloading all the time.
It is the neighbors problem if s/he decided to pirate the signal, not yours. If you put up a tramsmitter to view a video in another part of your house, it is not your problem if someone steals it.
Isn't this the same arguement that the content providers (HBO, etc.) were talking about a few years ago?? I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly, HBO was sending the signal out over satelite, and then busting people for putting up pirate dishes to receive the signal.
So, it sounds like a double standard to me. If a corporation wants to send a signal out, then it is ok as long as noone is receiving it that shouldn't be. But if it is Joe Shmoe, the he better not send anything that MAY be pirated...
Well... normally, I would agree with you. However, if someone (RIAA) develops a "copy protection scheme" to keep you from being able to make a copy of a CD, a few weeks later you find a way to "break" said protection and the company finds out about it... If you went to court over this (remember, you are in front of a bunch of people who most likely don't know anything about what encryption and "copy protection" is, let alone computers) they will say that they spent millions of dollars to develop said copy protection scheme and you violated the DMCA by breaking it.
Now, if you have a REALLY good lawyer, and plenty of money, you will probably keep from getting put in prison, but their lawyers will at least make sure you get a fine...
If you find a way to copy a copy-prevented CD and use it to make personal copies then you're legally entitled to do so.
Actually, on this point, you are wrong. If I find a way to make a copy of a copy protected CD, and I don't mean a stupid analog copy, then I obviously broke another "freedom taking" law called the DMCA. These people have us by the short and curlies and they will use that advantage until *WE* make them stop.
The whole point is that you shouldn't have to go though that much trouble to make a copy of a CD.
I make a backup of every CD that I purchase. After the CD is copied, the original goes back in the case and isn't opened again until the copy is either broken, or scratched beyond repair. When I shell out $19 (which is overpriced anyway, but that is a different topic) to get "CD Quality Sound", I shouldn't have to make a copy to tape (which won't work in my car) then re-rip back to CD (which will work in my car) to be able to listen to it. If I wanted "tape quality", I would just buy the tape.
Hell, actually, just buying the tape would save me a huge step in ripping back to CD. And it would be perfectly legal too... it isn't a "bit copy" and I didn't have to do anything to go against the DMCA.
Besides raising prices on tapes again, what would the music industry do if everyone switched back to tape to get away from the "copy protection", since that is the best quality we are going to get from a tape copy anyway?
Wouldn't that just be hilarious???
But what your not considering is that in order for your analogy to fit, you would have had to have kept a briefcase on the passenger seat containing the personal information of about 50000 people with big letters on the front saying "Confidential".
Whether he was stepping on your rights or not is relative... he could have been looking out for the rights of the 50000 individuals whose information you so carelessly left laying in your passenger seat with the window down.
Oh, here's an idea... let's all move to a country where most of the population despises Americans (just about any country other than Canada) and teach them to be like us or to do our jobs. At the same time, if they are paying their workers 1/3 of what we make (hello, third world pay), what do you think they are going to pay us to teach them?? Hell, look at what we pay OUR OWN teachers...
Why is it that every time this issue comes up, there is someone that comes up with the "boycott" idea. As this is the most unlikely situation, it is the stupidest recommendation. That is like saying, "Well, I don't like all the pollution cars are making, so I won't buy anymore gasoline." First of all, if you want to get anywhere that is farther that say, 20 miles, you need a polluting vehicle.(And yes, I know there are long distance bike riders, duh). And second, even if YOU boycotted their wares, there are plenty of sheep out there that won't. I agree that their monoplistic ways suck and that there are a lot of things that need to change in the entertainment industry, but a boycott is just a plain stupid idea.
Take any of the posts you see in this thread and replace "Kazaa/KazaaLite" with "Napster" and you have almost the exact same story...
You cannot legitimize something that is illegal. Abuse it while it is still here, because anyone who thinks that Kazaa will be any different from Napster ("dead man walking") is sadly mistaken.
Very well said... I can't think of anything to add. Someone please mod this up.
You have to be kidding...
What the hell do you think all the lawyers for any major corporation are going to do... They will nitpick the shit out of every word to bend it to their will.
Oh yeah, this sounds like a good idea... lets lock up a bunch students (ruining their lives, or at least their future careers) for doing something that we all did when we were younger... Anyone ever heard of cassettes?? And what were the main reasons we did it?? Well, we got to listen to a certain song whenever we wanted, we saved a little money, and it pissed off a bunch of people (which is something young people like to do for some reason... fun or some such). I can't speak for the teenagers and their like, but I can say that I DO buy more CDs now that I can sample the songs they don't play on the radio. Radio has turned into crap. If I want to listen to the same song over and over (a slight exageration) I will let my daughter hold the remote. Damn if she can't run a song into the ground.
So exactly what is the "hidden" picture??? I couldn't quite make it out before...
Am I the only one who isn't understanding how you can hook up 17 hard drives at the same time??? I have an Abit board that does raid, but I don't know how to hook up more than 8.
btw, I know you can with SCSI, but not IDE.
Only one thing... I would think it unwise to put this case into a "cubbie" anyway. As you can see, the airflow design moves the air sideways instead of front to back. Even if it did fit, you would only be blocking all of the airflow unless you are going to cut holes in the sides of the cubbie.
Uh... I hate to tell you, but moving a mouse cursor (moving an object that controls moving a virtual object) is something my parents were doing a long long time ago... The object may have changed, but if I remember correctly, Pac-Man was a virtual object controlled by a joystick.
I was under the impression that the reason you were paying a monthly fee for the satellite radio was to get rid of the commercials. If the station doesn't have to worry about collecting revenues from advertising (ie. collecting a fee directly from the consumer) why are they putting in commercials? Why pay $250+ on equipment that will *really* get you nothing better that plain old am/fm? $10 a month just so you can hear the same station all across the country?? I think I agree on the idea of just spending your money on an in-dash mp3 player...
I wonder though, has anyone considered that the creator might be from MusicCity (Morpheus) or a supporter?? They did get screwed a few months ago...
I would be interested in seeing that article... When you find it, how about Slashdotting it??
You know, it is a sad day when all of the collective conscience of the country is controlled by the thought of being sued for every goddamned thing that may or may not happen.
[OffTopic][Rant] Why is it that this country (US) produces more lawyers than anything else?? I'll tell you why. Because people in this country are becoming pansies and don't want to take responsibility for their own actions. Why not give the cuecats to all us hardware hackers out there?? Because someone might choke on it?? First of all, if you choke on a cuecat, you deserved to die for being so damned stupid for putting it in your mouth. Someone might get the thing hung up somewhere where it doesn't belong?? I think the humility of going to the hospital over that one was instilled very well from all the gerbils that died from that horrible fate.
When is everyone going to get back to taking responsibility for themselves without blaming all their problems on someone else and then trying to get rich from it?[/OffTopic][/Rant]
Sorry, had to get that off of my chest.
I tried the service a few months ago. The "no late fee" idea was a good one, but having to wait a week(!) for a movie to come in the mail was terrible. By the time the movie got to me, I would watch it same night, send it back the next day. But I could get 5 movies with 5 viewing days for the same money. I could only get 4 in a month because of the mail and still had to wait a week to watch it. That is if all the ppl on the west coast hadn't gotten them all first. I waited 3 weeks for a movie to come back in so they could send it to me. My girlfriend got so tired of waiting, decided to go get it from Blockbuster. Wouldn't you know it, showed up same day.
Overall: Excellent idea, but SNAIL mail?
Actually, he could only be prosecuted if they could prove that he was doing it...
Uh, I think I have destroyed more kernels that I care to count by just *trying* to learn how things should be done. What did I do every time that happened?? The same thing I do every time I screw up a windows installation... I reload the OS. What will happen everytime "Aunt Tillie" screws up her kernel? The same thing she would do if it was Windows. That would be one of three things;
a) Take it to someone who can fix it.
b) Reload the OS. (You know, the same way you learned??)
c) Get a clue about how to fix it without reloading.
I don't know how all the elitist people learned, but I went through the steps above in the order listed. But c) didn't come about until I screwed it up to begin with, talked to and got help from someone else, and got tired of reloading all the time.
And everyone wondered why the XBox came with such a big hard drive that supposedly was only used for save game files...
It is the neighbors problem if s/he decided to pirate the signal, not yours. If you put up a tramsmitter to view a video in another part of your house, it is not your problem if someone steals it.
Isn't this the same arguement that the content providers (HBO, etc.) were talking about a few years ago?? I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly, HBO was sending the signal out over satelite, and then busting people for putting up pirate dishes to receive the signal.
So, it sounds like a double standard to me. If a corporation wants to send a signal out, then it is ok as long as noone is receiving it that shouldn't be. But if it is Joe Shmoe, the he better not send anything that MAY be pirated...
Well... normally, I would agree with you. However, if someone (RIAA) develops a "copy protection scheme" to keep you from being able to make a copy of a CD, a few weeks later you find a way to "break" said protection and the company finds out about it... If you went to court over this (remember, you are in front of a bunch of people who most likely don't know anything about what encryption and "copy protection" is, let alone computers) they will say that they spent millions of dollars to develop said copy protection scheme and you violated the DMCA by breaking it.
Now, if you have a REALLY good lawyer, and plenty of money, you will probably keep from getting put in prison, but their lawyers will at least make sure you get a fine...
Well said...
If you find a way to copy a copy-prevented CD and use it to make personal copies then you're legally entitled to do so.
Actually, on this point, you are wrong. If I find a way to make a copy of a copy protected CD, and I don't mean a stupid analog copy, then I obviously broke another "freedom taking" law called the DMCA. These people have us by the short and curlies and they will use that advantage until *WE* make them stop.
The whole point is that you shouldn't have to go though that much trouble to make a copy of a CD.
I make a backup of every CD that I purchase. After the CD is copied, the original goes back in the case and isn't opened again until the copy is either broken, or scratched beyond repair. When I shell out $19 (which is overpriced anyway, but that is a different topic) to get "CD Quality Sound", I shouldn't have to make a copy to tape (which won't work in my car) then re-rip back to CD (which will work in my car) to be able to listen to it. If I wanted "tape quality", I would just buy the tape.
Hell, actually, just buying the tape would save me a huge step in ripping back to CD. And it would be perfectly legal too... it isn't a "bit copy" and I didn't have to do anything to go against the DMCA.
Besides raising prices on tapes again, what would the music industry do if everyone switched back to tape to get away from the "copy protection", since that is the best quality we are going to get from a tape copy anyway?