> I would never, ever give a sample for a DNA analysis to anyone but a doctor.
What if DNA submission becomes required by law? What if it was harvested without your knowing (like cases where investigators can't get a search warrant due to a lack of evidence but offer you a cigarrette during your interrogation - they're not being generous). What if insurance companies start to require a sample or profile just as they require your medical history now? It's the possibilities I fear (GATTACA), not bringing criminals to justice.
I suppose you could move to another country, or simply hide from the government and not have insurance.
I guess it depends where you live. My parents have TW and I had Charter Communications cable modem. I think my cable modem was up about 70% of the time (even with two technicians coming to the house - and I live in town, not in the boonies), and my parents have nothing but problems with their TW.
I couldn't take it anymore and decided to switch to SBC DSL and would and have never regretted it since. The 1 year contract sucks, but it never goes down and they actually add some nifty value-added features. Unfortunately, my parents can't get DSL in their area (and prolly never will).
And I keep getting calls from Charter telling me to upgrade to their broadband service. Yeah right. It was less reliable than any dialup provider I've ever had!
If I pay $4.95/month for dialup, I don't expect a whole lot. But when I shell out $85/month for cable service (digital cable+Internet) I expect near-perfect service. If you can't give me that, your competitor will.
> Hence why most of us... rent the video... you are aware you can rent DVD's now
Yeah, right. Our local videos stores seem to think the directors vision of the film was off base, thus stocking about 90% fullscreen titles and a remaining 10% of widescreen. Of course, the widescreen editions are always gone. I'm sure the fullscreen edition of The Matrix will be a nice treat.
> what happens in a few years when the Foundation has A) run out of money, and B) hasn't gotten any significant donations?
From the site:
> AOL, IBM, Sun Microsystems, Red Hat, and other companies will continue to support Mozilla through the Foundation.
I wouldn't worry. Me thinks these companies et al will stop supporting Mozilla when Internet Explorer has a user base of <5%. These are big competitors of Microsoft. Either way, if the money dries up, I would be surprised if people still didn't continue to develop Mozilla (even if it's at a slower pace).
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> And the government system of going with the lowest bidder is bound to cause some problems
I worked in a state agency, and the fact that we were required to take bids didn't really change who we purchased from. We just chose the vendor we liked best and justified it by writing the project needs around that vendor. They did that with employees too. When a new job opened, they often had someone in line for the position. However, equal opportunity required that the do interviews for the position. To justify the person they desired, they would write the job description and requirements based on the skills of the individual they liked. They would then schedule interviews even though they already had someone chosen for the position, just to meet requirements. I suppose they could have changed their mind if they found someone who was absolutely fabulous, but it's hard to convince an employer how great you are when in the back of their mind they don't think the interview is going to matter anyway.
> SCO made initial IP claims against IBM in March 6th 20032, and only removed the source code to its Linux distribution in May 14th 20033 Thus SCO have gifted this code to the Linux community.
The author of this piece seems pretty sure Linux will be unaffected by the outcome of this case. What about this:
SCO realizes there is infringing code in Linux, but continue to release their distribution anyway. Perhaps they felt since their code was already infringed upon, why should they be punished in lost sales by pulling their product which was developed unknowingly with stolen code? Could it not be argued that once an invalid license always an invalid license? Since the infringing code was included without their permission, its license under the GPL was never valid.
To illustrate my point: Let's say Pepsi owns Nutrisweet and have patents on the artificial sweetener. Let's say they also resell Dr. Pepper products in their soda machines. Let's also say that Dr. Pepper developed their own artificial sweetener for Diet Dr. Pepper that infringes on some of Pepsi's IP. Once Pepsi finds out about it, are they required to pull all Diet Dr. Pepper from their machines, thus hurting sales and requiring extra man hours?
Obviously, this isn't a perfect example because you don't license a can of soda to a consumer. However, couldn't a good lawyer argue that the crime was done and the time period where SCO was releasing their code under the GPL was to give them time to "tie up loose ends" with that product line while minimizing the negative impact on their bottom line? It seems like a "victim" of such "theft" should be entitled to pick up the pieces within a reasonable time frame.
Just a thought. I just don't think we should be celebrating until the court case is over.
> They keep bring us new stuff like MS-Bob.... and Clippy...
Of all the stuff they've released in multiple markets over the past two decades, all you can find to troll with are Microsoft Bob (an application from 1995) and Clippy. Seems to me they might not be doing so bad after all. Why not compare modern versions of MS apps to versions of Mac OS or Linux from 1995 then?
I love Linux, but the Microsoft Bob troll is so crusty, like no mistakes were made with Linux or OS X over the years...
> Why replace MS software when you can just fire me and hire an Indian for $35k/yr?
Why is this racist? Sounds like he's simply stating an observation. Now if he said "those smelly Indians who would back stab you the first chance they got", that would be racist.
Calling that racist is like saying "The majority of inmates in U.S. pisons are African American" is a racist comment (assuming it's true, to which I have no idea and merely used it as an example). Even if it isn't true, I don't consider it racist - just an incorrect assessment or baseless statement.
"Most serial killers are white!" I'M GUESS I'M RACIST!
> Joe ServicePack has no use for Active Directory, Management Consoles, Bastardized Kerberos, etc.. NT4 security was enough for him.
Until Joe wants to play some of his favorite MP3 files but learns that the Sound Blaster 16 driver that comes with NT 4 isn't compatible for some reason, and learns that his DSL provider doesn't support his OS and that dialup is easier to set up on on an Atari 2600 than his NT4 machine.
What the hell is "Joe SixPack" doing with a business OS? Joe should be using Windows 98 (back then) or Windows 2000/XP today (assuming he wanted to stick with a Windows product).
No offense, but your post is like going to a NRA meeting and arguing that gun control has its merits. Wrong place, my friend.
Don't worry, soon this place will be overrun by Mac users touting how OS X can do everything Win/Lin can do but better and we Linux afficionados will have to find a new home.
Pfft. Computers started becoming prevelent in the work place during the DOS days. This is when a lot of people were "forced" to learn computers, and to get anything done they needed to know certain DOS commands. This was like a paradigm shift for them requiring many hours of frustration to figure it out.
Most of them probably don't want to go through that again since their existing knowledge at least allows them to be functional, which is all they really care about. My parents were the same way, but fortunately they are fairly open to change and the transition wasn't too bad.
Some of those seem borderline libelous towards Linus. Let's say code was "stolen" from SCO and Linus approved it - it's not like it was premeditated. Also, Linus et. al. could plead ignorance in the same way SCO did when they released Linux (and thus their stolen code) under the GPL (we didn't know it was there!).
> Know how you do all of the above with Windows 98se or Win2k? Select internet connection sharing in help and the wizard does it all for you.
Yeah, but you couldn't do this in Windows 95. Once the GUIs have as much time to mature as it took Microsoft to get there, this functionality might be there. It will be eventually. GNU/Linux has come a long way in the past decade.
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> I would never, ever give a sample for a DNA analysis to anyone but a doctor.
What if DNA submission becomes required by law? What if it was harvested without your knowing (like cases where investigators can't get a search warrant due to a lack of evidence but offer you a cigarrette during your interrogation - they're not being generous). What if insurance companies start to require a sample or profile just as they require your medical history now? It's the possibilities I fear (GATTACA), not bringing criminals to justice.
I suppose you could move to another country, or simply hide from the government and not have insurance.
I guess it depends where you live. My parents have TW and I had Charter Communications cable modem. I think my cable modem was up about 70% of the time (even with two technicians coming to the house - and I live in town, not in the boonies), and my parents have nothing but problems with their TW.
I couldn't take it anymore and decided to switch to SBC DSL and would and have never regretted it since. The 1 year contract sucks, but it never goes down and they actually add some nifty value-added features. Unfortunately, my parents can't get DSL in their area (and prolly never will).
And I keep getting calls from Charter telling me to upgrade to their broadband service. Yeah right. It was less reliable than any dialup provider I've ever had!
If I pay $4.95/month for dialup, I don't expect a whole lot. But when I shell out $85/month for cable service (digital cable+Internet) I expect near-perfect service. If you can't give me that, your competitor will.
> Hence why most of us ... rent the video ... you are aware you can rent DVD's now
Yeah, right. Our local videos stores seem to think the directors vision of the film was off base, thus stocking about 90% fullscreen titles and a remaining 10% of widescreen. Of course, the widescreen editions are always gone. I'm sure the fullscreen edition of The Matrix will be a nice treat.
Now with 20% of the original film missing!
From the parent:
> what happens in a few years when the Foundation has A) run out of money, and B) hasn't gotten any significant donations?
From the site:
> AOL, IBM, Sun Microsystems, Red Hat, and other companies will continue to support Mozilla through the Foundation.
I wouldn't worry. Me thinks these companies et al will stop supporting Mozilla when Internet Explorer has a user base of <5%. These are big competitors of Microsoft. Either way, if the money dries up, I would be surprised if people still didn't continue to develop Mozilla (even if it's at a slower pace).
There will always be alternatives.
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"No, this is blackmail. Entrapment is what cops do to thieves." --Sean Connery, Entrapment
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> And the government system of going with the lowest bidder is bound to cause some problems
I worked in a state agency, and the fact that we were required to take bids didn't really change who we purchased from. We just chose the vendor we liked best and justified it by writing the project needs around that vendor. They did that with employees too. When a new job opened, they often had someone in line for the position. However, equal opportunity required that the do interviews for the position. To justify the person they desired, they would write the job description and requirements based on the skills of the individual they liked. They would then schedule interviews even though they already had someone chosen for the position, just to meet requirements. I suppose they could have changed their mind if they found someone who was absolutely fabulous, but it's hard to convince an employer how great you are when in the back of their mind they don't think the interview is going to matter anyway.
> Carrie-Anne Moss would make an excellent IBM, since IBM's products are fairly sleek and sexy right now, and I'd really like to get into IBM...
That is quite possibly the geekiest thing I've ever read on Slashdot...
Can't say I disagree though ;)
> SCO made initial IP claims against IBM in March 6th 20032, and only removed the source code to its Linux distribution in May 14th 20033 Thus SCO have gifted this code to the Linux community.
The author of this piece seems pretty sure Linux will be unaffected by the outcome of this case. What about this:
SCO realizes there is infringing code in Linux, but continue to release their distribution anyway. Perhaps they felt since their code was already infringed upon, why should they be punished in lost sales by pulling their product which was developed unknowingly with stolen code? Could it not be argued that once an invalid license always an invalid license? Since the infringing code was included without their permission, its license under the GPL was never valid.
To illustrate my point: Let's say Pepsi owns Nutrisweet and have patents on the artificial sweetener. Let's say they also resell Dr. Pepper products in their soda machines. Let's also say that Dr. Pepper developed their own artificial sweetener for Diet Dr. Pepper that infringes on some of Pepsi's IP. Once Pepsi finds out about it, are they required to pull all Diet Dr. Pepper from their machines, thus hurting sales and requiring extra man hours?
Obviously, this isn't a perfect example because you don't license a can of soda to a consumer. However, couldn't a good lawyer argue that the crime was done and the time period where SCO was releasing their code under the GPL was to give them time to "tie up loose ends" with that product line while minimizing the negative impact on their bottom line? It seems like a "victim" of such "theft" should be entitled to pick up the pieces within a reasonable time frame.
Just a thought. I just don't think we should be celebrating until the court case is over.
> There's one effort underway to port PHP to .NET, for one.
Got a link? I want to read more, but it's difficult to search for "PHP.NET" or "Microsoft PHP .NET" on the likes of Google and Teoma :
> Isn't it enough to piss off one 800 pound gorilla? ... Now he goes poking another eight of them with a stick.
"I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve" -Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, December 7th, 1941
> The fatter and older we nerds get, the slimmer and younger our computer get.
Which proves my theory, that Germans love David Hasselhoff.
> Send mail to webmaster@celinuxforum.org with questions or comments about this web site.
Yeah, I never associated a "master of the web" with someone who creates static content with FrontPage.
id="AutoNumber1"? What the hell does that do? ;)
> They keep bring us new stuff like MS-Bob.... and Clippy...
Of all the stuff they've released in multiple markets over the past two decades, all you can find to troll with are Microsoft Bob (an application from 1995) and Clippy. Seems to me they might not be doing so bad after all. Why not compare modern versions of MS apps to versions of Mac OS or Linux from 1995 then?
I love Linux, but the Microsoft Bob troll is so crusty, like no mistakes were made with Linux or OS X over the years...
> I'll really be impressed when a company such as Pixar starts using linux exclusively.
That would be impressive, especially since Steve Jobs is the chairman and CEO. Perhaps he could convince Darl McBride to do the same.
> Why replace MS software when you can just fire me and hire an Indian for $35k/yr?
Why is this racist? Sounds like he's simply stating an observation. Now if he said "those smelly Indians who would back stab you the first chance they got", that would be racist.
Calling that racist is like saying "The majority of inmates in U.S. pisons are African American" is a racist comment (assuming it's true, to which I have no idea and merely used it as an example). Even if it isn't true, I don't consider it racist - just an incorrect assessment or baseless statement.
"Most serial killers are white!" I'M GUESS I'M RACIST!
Takes one to know one. Besides, you're reading Slashdot too.
> Joe ServicePack has no use for Active Directory, Management Consoles, Bastardized Kerberos, etc.. NT4 security was enough for him.
Until Joe wants to play some of his favorite MP3 files but learns that the Sound Blaster 16 driver that comes with NT 4 isn't compatible for some reason, and learns that his DSL provider doesn't support his OS and that dialup is easier to set up on on an Atari 2600 than his NT4 machine.
What the hell is "Joe SixPack" doing with a business OS? Joe should be using Windows 98 (back then) or Windows 2000/XP today (assuming he wanted to stick with a Windows product).
No offense, but your post is like going to a NRA meeting and arguing that gun control has its merits. Wrong place, my friend.
Don't worry, soon this place will be overrun by Mac users touting how OS X can do everything Win/Lin can do but better and we Linux afficionados will have to find a new home.
The real question is... Do we trust a manufacturer of Linux PCs whose web page has drop-down menus that aren't compatible with Mozilla?
At least, it didn't work on my machine. I'm using Firebird 0.6 on KDE.
> Is this the (bad) influence of a Unix weenie?
Pfft. Computers started becoming prevelent in the work place during the DOS days. This is when a lot of people were "forced" to learn computers, and to get anything done they needed to know certain DOS commands. This was like a paradigm shift for them requiring many hours of frustration to figure it out.
Most of them probably don't want to go through that again since their existing knowledge at least allows them to be functional, which is all they really care about. My parents were the same way, but fortunately they are fairly open to change and the transition wasn't too bad.
> linux ain't gonna do nothin' to OS X.
Agreed.
Talk about law makers being blatently biased toward the upper class. If you have enough money, you can buy special priveleges.
I thought car-pool lanes were designed to encourage a reduction in pollution. So now if you have enough money, environmental concerns don't apply?
> "It's a lesson in economics," explains Mercer Island's state Rep. Fred Jarrett
Indeed it is. They're taking the corruption enjoyed by big business who's bottom line can't be bothered by the environment and applying to local laws.
Some of those seem borderline libelous towards Linus. Let's say code was "stolen" from SCO and Linus approved it - it's not like it was premeditated. Also, Linus et. al. could plead ignorance in the same way SCO did when they released Linux (and thus their stolen code) under the GPL (we didn't know it was there!).
> Know how you do all of the above with Windows 98se or Win2k? Select internet connection sharing in help and the wizard does it all for you.
Yeah, but you couldn't do this in Windows 95. Once the GUIs have as much time to mature as it took Microsoft to get there, this functionality might be there. It will be eventually. GNU/Linux has come a long way in the past decade.