If teachers are anything like professors, ANYTHING they do is justifiably important. Your pleads will fall on deaf ears as they blame the problem on someone else (after all, I only do it once in awhile. My colleague does it all day long!)
Or find a vague policy like "Thou shalt not engage in illegal activities while on school grounds" in the teacher handbook and slap a piracy label on them. Boooyah!
Our school uses a more gradual approach. I'm not sure how it works, but every connection to the Internet through the school is given full throughput. Some script monitors usage over time and throttles your throughput down to almost nothing on all ports when it "senses" heavy bandwidth. If I left my P2P software on full, it would take about 1-2 hours before my connection would be nothing. Changing my IP address works, but I have to hard-code it and change it often, and it conflicts with DHCP leases. It sucks that it kills all ports!
Once your usage begins to go down, it increases your throughput.
Probably the worst part is that it also throttles the off campus cable modem users who are connected through the University (and pay $30/month). You can get around it by paying $50/month, but most people deal with it for the discounted $30/month access.
Even though I agree with you, I can't understand why people don't know it's illegal. Aside from being in the news, it seems to me that the average adult has been exposed to VHS/DVD FBI warnings before. How is this any different?
I know there are exceptions, there is free music, but come on...
All of these you mentioned get spanked on an Exchange network. A company who pays for Exchange isn't going to hinder nearly all its features by using Eudora or some other client. Outlook has calendaring and collaboration and a superior contacts interface, but I think the calendar is its biggest advantage (at least where I work). It also has many vulnerabilities.
I think a more logical alternative would probably be Lotus Notes/Domino, but Bowtus Goats is a proprietary, user un-friendly pile of shit. (Why does F5 clear my password from memory in Notes instead of refreshing like every other Windows app?) Notes is about as user friendly as building an e-mail client using Forms in Microsoft Access.
I wasn't mouthing off, asshole, and I did read the article. What does it matter if their market gain was through acqusistion or another method. All I stated was that they are not AHEAD.
Ellison gets bad press for being big brother, IBM pulling ahead of Oracle, and now this. It's good to see some other players get ahead in the market. I never much cared for Oracle software. Ok, Microsoft is evil blah blah, but I think SQL Server's management tools are pretty swell. Alas, SQL Server only comes on Windows.
Then again, SQL*Plus is pretty cool;)
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> [sorry...i couldn't help it...my parents were in Amway...i've seen it all before]
LOL, I had a couple of college roommates that fell into the Amway scheme. I've heard this bullshit before. They actually thought they were going to get rich with their "business", which I heard time and time again. Perhaps me making fun of them lead to their ultimate demise through a lack of self-confidence.
Hmmmm, no wonder we can't find jobs. Apparently some of us forgot to attend How to Get a Clue 101. I'm sure it was an evening class on Friday or something...
Although I agree the only way to get ahead in this world is to be a dishonest cheater, I'm not sure it was as easy as you might think to pull something like this off.
You can make a lot of money by being dishonest in a much easier way - start a retail business. Well, at least this worked for Best Buy.
Amoral or not, I'm not going to rock the boat if my potential for financial success can be maximized. I can try to live a nobel life, but in the end we're all the same (worm food). Might as well enjoy it while it lasts.
> Hard work doesn't inherently "deserve" to be rewarded, BTW.
> the temp got up to a blistering 20.5 F. I wonder how long the hardware will last in extremes like that.
I've been living in Wisconsin for 23 years. It can get that cold or colder from around December through March - 4 months for argument. 23*4/12 = 7.6 years that I have been exposed to that kind of cold. I figure if I can do it, so can the equipment.:)
Seriously though, I'm sure it will need maintenance at least once a year assuming it isn't disturbed by anything more than weather.
> No, the big tobacco companies have had all of them beat for a long time now. Their products directly kill people.
If I was in the tobacco business (which I'm not) I wouldn't give a rip about who *chooses* to use my product knowing full well that it is deadly. I'm not in the business to protect the public (that's what the government and organizations like Thomas T. Melvin and The Truth are for). Cigarettes are not illegal, so if I can get you hooked at a young age I have a customer that will give me money on a weekly basis for the rest of his/her life. Makes sense to me.
If I spent my life building a hugely successful business, I think I deserve to be rewarded for my hard work. If there's one thing I learned from college, it's that hard work isn't enough. You have to step on people and back stab just to stay afloat.
You don't like that? Don't buy my product.
How many people do you know that are not aware that cigarettes are unhealthy? Not only that, but Philip Moris is now running anti-smoking ads on TV. What more could you ask from them? Since when has business been about being honest anyway?
If I spent my whole life crying and worrying about other people instead of myself, I would end up broke and probably insane.
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Ok, ok, I know reading them from a browser isn't as nice as reading them in a good client software, but if that was the only thing holding me back from Evolution, I would make the switch. Then again, I newsgroup infrequently.
I'm waiting for Evolution on KDE:) I love Evolution but think Gnome stinks.
> I can watch whatever the fuck I want to of the television programming you send into my house.
Although I agree this is how it should be, but I'm sure the industry would be willing to curb ads if you and I are willing to pay more money per month, and I'm guessing a lot more money per month. They can't do it for free. As much as I hate ads, I know they're necessary.
What angers me more is the fact that I feel like I'm paying a LOT of money in monthly access charges and still have to sit through ads. Not only that, there should be fewer ads per television show. Why do they show the same ad 3 times during one show, especially ones that I've seen 6 million times already. I get it that Jared lost 300 pounds on his Subway diet. I understand that Britney thinks Pepsi is swell. I've seen this one already, on with my show!
And don't give me the excuse, "well, YOU might have seen it a million times, but someone else might not have." Horse pucky. I may watch a decent amount of television, but I KNOW there are a bunch of commercials that anyone who watches even an hour a week have seen. Why play these over and over. If anything, you're not selling your product, you're just annoying the hell out of me. Perhaps that's the point?
Meanwhile, a meager, disgusting Subway sub costs me $3.50 for something that might have been two-thirds the price if they didn't advertise so damn much, but I'm not in advertising/marketing. And don't even get me started and the price of soda and automobiles...
>/me gently places hendridm in the 'angry ex-catholic' box, pats him on the head, and walks off.
Although I think your reply was funny, and I agree that I *am* an angry ex-catholic, I don't think that invalidates my opinion in any way.
I still feel I have been open minded to other religions. I've taken survey courses in religion and philosophy (okay, not that great, but it's a start), and I haven't really found any explanation that is exceptable to me.
> If you don't like the idea of the non-provable parts of religion, at least accept the rules. Catholicism teaches you to be happy in what you do and do what makes others happy.
I think most of us can accomplish these tasks without 1) going to church and 2) paying the church. If you remove the supernatural crap, all you have is morals and a positive attitude. I don't need some priest telling me that I sin all the time. I get enough of that at work.
Note: I was raised a Catholic and now consider myself an atheist.
Agreed, Simpsons started getting boring with their ever increasing bizarre and random plots with no direction, combined with the fast that they always have been focusing on Homer's stupidity lately (which is funny, I admit, but I need variety).
I didn't like Futurama at first, but now I'l grown to like it just in time for it to be cancelled.
Maybe Fox could pick up South Park for the Futurama slot. Oh wait, that would be too "mean".
> Believe me, I know what it is like to be unhappy at a job. But you know what I did? I left.
It must be nice to have the luxory to leave a job you don't like. I am working two jobs I hate right now because there are NO JOBS. I've been applying like mad for the last 6 months to EVERYTHING that comes up (even things that have nothing to do with my field) and the only job I've found pays $5.40/hour part time.
Agreed. I'm getting laid off in one week by management who has been there less time than I have and have far less education. Why was it I went to school again? To be laid off by these people? I helped train them for God's sake!
Grrrr. Sorry people, a "friend" of mine thought it would be funny to use my workstation to post that comment while I was still logged in. I know, I should know better. Fooey.
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If teachers are anything like professors, ANYTHING they do is justifiably important. Your pleads will fall on deaf ears as they blame the problem on someone else (after all, I only do it once in awhile. My colleague does it all day long!)
Or find a vague policy like "Thou shalt not engage in illegal activities while on school grounds" in the teacher handbook and slap a piracy label on them. Boooyah!
> In short, users expect to be lied to and they want their computers to be fast and reliable.
:)
Modded as Funny but I thought it was more Insightful than anything
Our school uses a more gradual approach. I'm not sure how it works, but every connection to the Internet through the school is given full throughput. Some script monitors usage over time and throttles your throughput down to almost nothing on all ports when it "senses" heavy bandwidth. If I left my P2P software on full, it would take about 1-2 hours before my connection would be nothing. Changing my IP address works, but I have to hard-code it and change it often, and it conflicts with DHCP leases. It sucks that it kills all ports!
Once your usage begins to go down, it increases your throughput.
Probably the worst part is that it also throttles the off campus cable modem users who are connected through the University (and pay $30/month). You can get around it by paying $50/month, but most people deal with it for the discounted $30/month access.
Even though I agree with you, I can't understand why people don't know it's illegal. Aside from being in the news, it seems to me that the average adult has been exposed to VHS/DVD FBI warnings before. How is this any different?
I know there are exceptions, there is free music, but come on...
All of these you mentioned get spanked on an Exchange network. A company who pays for Exchange isn't going to hinder nearly all its features by using Eudora or some other client. Outlook has calendaring and collaboration and a superior contacts interface, but I think the calendar is its biggest advantage (at least where I work). It also has many vulnerabilities.
I think a more logical alternative would probably be Lotus Notes/Domino, but Bowtus Goats is a proprietary, user un-friendly pile of shit. (Why does F5 clear my password from memory in Notes instead of refreshing like every other Windows app?) Notes is about as user friendly as building an e-mail client using Forms in Microsoft Access.
It's a tradeoff.
I wasn't mouthing off, asshole, and I did read the article. What does it matter if their market gain was through acqusistion or another method. All I stated was that they are not AHEAD.
Ellison gets bad press for being big brother, IBM pulling ahead of Oracle, and now this. It's good to see some other players get ahead in the market. I never much cared for Oracle software. Ok, Microsoft is evil blah blah, but I think SQL Server's management tools are pretty swell. Alas, SQL Server only comes on Windows.
;)
Then again, SQL*Plus is pretty cool
> [sorry...i couldn't help it...my parents were in Amway...i've seen it all before]
LOL, I had a couple of college roommates that fell into the Amway scheme. I've heard this bullshit before. They actually thought they were going to get rich with their "business", which I heard time and time again. Perhaps me making fun of them lead to their ultimate demise through a lack of self-confidence.
Hmmmm, no wonder we can't find jobs. Apparently some of us forgot to attend How to Get a Clue 101. I'm sure it was an evening class on Friday or something...
Although I agree the only way to get ahead in this world is to be a dishonest cheater, I'm not sure it was as easy as you might think to pull something like this off.
You can make a lot of money by being dishonest in a much easier way - start a retail business. Well, at least this worked for Best Buy.
> Is GNU.org.pe down for everyone else, btw?
I got to it earlier, but it's Slashdotted now. Google's got it cached though. Phhhhast.
Amoral or not, I'm not going to rock the boat if my potential for financial success can be maximized. I can try to live a nobel life, but in the end we're all the same (worm food). Might as well enjoy it while it lasts.
> Hard work doesn't inherently "deserve" to be rewarded, BTW.
Agreed, I know that now.
> the temp got up to a blistering 20.5 F. I wonder how long the hardware will last in extremes like that.
:)
I've been living in Wisconsin for 23 years. It can get that cold or colder from around December through March - 4 months for argument. 23*4/12 = 7.6 years that I have been exposed to that kind of cold. I figure if I can do it, so can the equipment.
Seriously though, I'm sure it will need maintenance at least once a year assuming it isn't disturbed by anything more than weather.
So what's the story?
> No, the big tobacco companies have had all of them beat for a long time now. Their products directly kill people.
If I was in the tobacco business (which I'm not) I wouldn't give a rip about who *chooses* to use my product knowing full well that it is deadly. I'm not in the business to protect the public (that's what the government and organizations like Thomas T. Melvin and The Truth are for). Cigarettes are not illegal, so if I can get you hooked at a young age I have a customer that will give me money on a weekly basis for the rest of his/her life. Makes sense to me.
If I spent my life building a hugely successful business, I think I deserve to be rewarded for my hard work. If there's one thing I learned from college, it's that hard work isn't enough. You have to step on people and back stab just to stay afloat.
You don't like that? Don't buy my product.
How many people do you know that are not aware that cigarettes are unhealthy? Not only that, but Philip Moris is now running anti-smoking ads on TV. What more could you ask from them? Since when has business been about being honest anyway?
If I spent my whole life crying and worrying about other people instead of myself, I would end up broke and probably insane.
This Flamebait was brought to you by the letters F and U, and the $ symbol.
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:) I love Evolution but think Gnome stinks.
Ok, ok, I know reading them from a browser isn't as nice as reading them in a good client software, but if that was the only thing holding me back from Evolution, I would make the switch. Then again, I newsgroup infrequently.
I'm waiting for Evolution on KDE
> I can watch whatever the fuck I want to of the television programming you send into my house.
Although I agree this is how it should be, but I'm sure the industry would be willing to curb ads if you and I are willing to pay more money per month, and I'm guessing a lot more money per month. They can't do it for free. As much as I hate ads, I know they're necessary.
What angers me more is the fact that I feel like I'm paying a LOT of money in monthly access charges and still have to sit through ads. Not only that, there should be fewer ads per television show. Why do they show the same ad 3 times during one show, especially ones that I've seen 6 million times already. I get it that Jared lost 300 pounds on his Subway diet. I understand that Britney thinks Pepsi is swell. I've seen this one already, on with my show!
And don't give me the excuse, "well, YOU might have seen it a million times, but someone else might not have." Horse pucky. I may watch a decent amount of television, but I KNOW there are a bunch of commercials that anyone who watches even an hour a week have seen. Why play these over and over. If anything, you're not selling your product, you're just annoying the hell out of me. Perhaps that's the point?
Meanwhile, a meager, disgusting Subway sub costs me $3.50 for something that might have been two-thirds the price if they didn't advertise so damn much, but I'm not in advertising/marketing. And don't even get me started and the price of soda and automobiles...
> /me gently places hendridm in the 'angry ex-catholic' box, pats him on the head, and walks off.
Although I think your reply was funny, and I agree that I *am* an angry ex-catholic, I don't think that invalidates my opinion in any way.
I still feel I have been open minded to other religions. I've taken survey courses in religion and philosophy (okay, not that great, but it's a start), and I haven't really found any explanation that is exceptable to me.
*sigh* Alas, I am trying to appeal to an AC.
I am amused by your choice of a luxury car, but I agree, too damn expensive.
> If you don't like the idea of the non-provable parts of religion, at least accept the rules. Catholicism teaches you to be happy in what you do and do what makes others happy.
I think most of us can accomplish these tasks without 1) going to church and 2) paying the church. If you remove the supernatural crap, all you have is morals and a positive attitude. I don't need some priest telling me that I sin all the time. I get enough of that at work.
Note: I was raised a Catholic and now consider myself an atheist.
Agreed, Simpsons started getting boring with their ever increasing bizarre and random plots with no direction, combined with the fast that they always have been focusing on Homer's stupidity lately (which is funny, I admit, but I need variety).
I didn't like Futurama at first, but now I'l grown to like it just in time for it to be cancelled.
Maybe Fox could pick up South Park for the Futurama slot. Oh wait, that would be too "mean".
> In the end, what began as a stock swap wound up, as an outright takeover of Time Warner by America Online.
I wonder if a light is going on in Michael Capellas' head right now.
> Believe me, I know what it is like to be unhappy at a job. But you know what I did? I left.
It must be nice to have the luxory to leave a job you don't like. I am working two jobs I hate right now because there are NO JOBS. I've been applying like mad for the last 6 months to EVERYTHING that comes up (even things that have nothing to do with my field) and the only job I've found pays $5.40/hour part time.
*sigh*, so much time wasted on my degree...
Agreed. I'm getting laid off in one week by management who has been there less time than I have and have far less education. Why was it I went to school again? To be laid off by these people? I helped train them for God's sake!
Grrrr. Sorry people, a "friend" of mine thought it would be funny to use my workstation to post that comment while I was still logged in. I know, I should know better. Fooey.