I feel your pain. I guess the problem is games cost too much to make these days for publishers to risk such vast amounts of money on something different, leading to the same old tired ideas getting trotted out again and again. Mind you, the public do themselves no favours by buying these sorts of games in spades, while innovative stuff passes by largely unnoticed.
Maybe so man, but he did have a point. It's like me going into the kitchens at a failing restaurant and saying to the chef, "You know how to turn this bad patch around? Make your meals *tastier*! Use fresher ingredients! Better presentation!" and then beaming at him like I'm the goose that laid the golden egg.
Yes, exactly like that! Naughty, but amusing! A hint of subtlety! However if it suddenly cut to a naked Tommy Vercetti getting his freak on inside the car, buns thrusting away, I would feel some sort of line had been crossed and I had changed from gameplayer to voyeur...
Oh man, my eyes! That picture is so WRONG. With stuff like this the Sims is moving away from being a virtual doll's house to something verging on the sinister and creepy. Seriously, could they not just have them retire to behind a closed door and have some bed springs creaking or something? But that.. that's just too much!
The only thing I want you to do whenever I do my girlfriend is to look the other way, that's all the privacy I need.
Sorry, man, God knows what sort of crazy terroristic shit you two could be thinking up when you are supposedly 'making love'. They gotta watch, it's for your own good.
So, they've go the script guy from Get Carter (remake) (crappy) and SWAT, and the coders of Simpson's Hit and Run - a game so derivative it actually got sued, and that takes some doing in this day and age. With a pedigree like that, we are in for a treat!!
While this is a good idea, EVE had its own form of grinding, in this case for money, which was typically either mining (spend hour after hour watching your mining laser slowly chip away at an asteroid then ferrying it all back to base), or fighting NPCs and ferrying loot back to base (a bit more fun, but a lot more risky)
1) The Gameboy has a headphone socket (or failing that, a volume knob) 2) Its screen (while not great) is bigger than your average mobile phone's, which makes all the difference for games. 3) It has controls especially designed for games
Nintendo, I DEMAND that you cease this "innovation" crap immediately. Nobody wants to try new things - we only want what we are comfortable with.
You're twisting my words. I'm saying that the Stylus is NOT a new input form, it has been tried before and is CRAP. Innovation in gameplay is great. 'Innovation' in the form of gimmicky controllers, be they styluses or boxing gloves, leads mostly to crappy games in which the entrie purpose of the product seems to be to showcase the controller, and instead of opening new possibilities, closes them down further to strict genre games (dancemat or light-gun, anyone?)
Oh wow! The possibilities of this exciting new form of input! Why, it's revolutionary, it's some sort of pointing device! Like a mouse then?
Come on people, stylus input freakin' SUCKS BALLS. It's is rubbish. They tried similar things with light pens in the 1980s and instead of opening up new vistas of UI possibilty everyone totally hated them. Why don't they just stick a trackball on it and be done with it? Seriously, stylus input is not more natural. It's a gimmick, and an expensive gimmick to boot (you need to bolt on a whole second screen??). People like conventional forms of input, they don't want to be scraping away like some medieval monk scribing out copies of the bible. As far as games are concerned, choices should be made with minimal efforts. My thumb twitches left, I move left. Right, I move right. I don't want to be describing circles with some sort of midget pencil, or painstakingly dragging my 'scalpel' from A to B, like one of those god-awful 'don't touch the wire or the buzzer goes off' so-called games. Does anyone like that sort of thing? Masochists maybe. Why don't you just spend your day threading needles, it would be about as much fun, and cheaper. And as for that guy salivating over the modelling and level creation possibles - what, you need a stylus to do that?
Funny this article coming up now, just an hour ago I was reading this article by UK games journalist Stuart Campbell, saying that the whole industry's holier-than-thou approach to piracy doesn't stand close scrutiny since historically such a large part of it is basically based on ripping off other people's ideas. Stuart Campbell writes a lot of thought-provoking stuff on piracy... his main gist is that if games were cheaper and the industry didn't treat us with such contempt then they might sell more copies.
The reason console games are (or should) be less buggy is that they use standardised hardware. PCs have all the testing problems you would expect from all those different set-ups, but instead of using patches as a last resort, they seem to be used an excuse to launch an unfinished game early to get the revenue stream moving.
Yeah, maybe. I've just seen too many guys for who these games compose the entirey of their social lives, and as such pump vast amounts of money and time into them in an attempt to gain kudos with their 'peers'. I mean, this two-PCs guy had a family. I had visions of them eating their dinner, with the empty place. "Dad's off playing EVE online again, he won't be at dinner". Scary resonances with "Dad's drunk again, he won't be at dinner." Though that is taking it to an extreme!;-)
Yeah, well Eve Online was pretty flakey, and you were playing Russian Roulette with the bluescreen if you even dared to so much as tab to the desktop, so you'd being doing well to get multiple instances of it running.
Your leader is a prime example of the addictive personality that these companies just love to suck dry. Still, on Eve Online, I knew a guy who was buying a new PC to run his second account simultaneously. To grind to get money for his first account, natch.
Yeah, I hate the movies comparison too. With movies, do you have to spend 95% of your time 'levelling up' waiting for something to happen? Do movies have such absurd demands on your time? MMPORGs demand a considerable investment of time that is *not* fun. If I play for ten hours, I have not got ten hours of entertainment, maybe only a third of that. Sure you might say the exciting stuff is all that much more exciting 'cos you had to wait, but come off it that's like saying I should batter my face off a wall because it feels so good when I stop. Plus, with MMPORGs, the customers are supplying a large part of the experience, unlike with movies (and don't mention those idiots who whoop and cheer in cinemas). Without customers, MMPORGs would be NOTHING. (Actually, I'm thinking a better comparison would be charging for entry to a club or bar). Like you say, apples and oranges.
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I feel your pain. I guess the problem is games cost too much to make these days for publishers to risk such vast amounts of money on something different, leading to the same old tired ideas getting trotted out again and again.
Mind you, the public do themselves no favours by buying these sorts of games in spades, while innovative stuff passes by largely unnoticed.
Maybe so man, but he did have a point. It's like me going into the kitchens at a failing restaurant and saying to the chef, "You know how to turn this bad patch around? Make your meals *tastier*! Use fresher ingredients! Better presentation!" and then beaming at him like I'm the goose that laid the golden egg.
I'm sure your heart's in the right place, though.
Haha, nice one, man!
I believe that this is the perfect time to roll out this old chestnut:
Q: What is the difference between your wife and your job?
A: After ten years, your job will still blow.
Yes, exactly like that! Naughty, but amusing! A hint of subtlety!
However if it suddenly cut to a naked Tommy Vercetti getting his freak on inside the car, buns thrusting away, I would feel some sort of line had been crossed and I had changed from gameplayer to voyeur...
Oh man, my eyes! That picture is so WRONG. With stuff like this the Sims is moving away from being a virtual doll's house to something verging on the sinister and creepy.
Seriously, could they not just have them retire to behind a closed door and have some bed springs creaking or something? But that.. that's just too much!
Well can't we all participate in discussing games?
The only thing I want you to do whenever I do my girlfriend is to look the other way, that's all the privacy I need.
Sorry, man, God knows what sort of crazy terroristic shit you two could be thinking up when you are supposedly 'making love'. They gotta watch, it's for your own good.
"If your teammates are dead, finding their [physics-affected limb] positions may help you understand how they died"
I can see the TV show now - CSI : Counter Strike!
"Yeah, I'm pretty sure this guy was shot"
To paraphrase what Beavis and Butthead said about Radiohead:
You have to have the bits that suck to make the cool bits seem so cool...
Hey, it wouldn't be rats, it would be TRIBBLES!
(At least they would have a believable reason for infintely respawning.)
Yeah, well I've been playing that for ages, and I really hate the grind.
Also, if I die, there is no respawn!
So, they've go the script guy from Get Carter (remake) (crappy) and SWAT, and the coders of Simpson's Hit and Run - a game so derivative it actually got sued, and that takes some doing in this day and age.
With a pedigree like that, we are in for a treat!!
While this is a good idea, EVE had its own form of grinding, in this case for money, which was typically either mining (spend hour after hour watching your mining laser slowly chip away at an asteroid then ferrying it all back to base), or fighting NPCs and ferrying loot back to base (a bit more fun, but a lot more risky)
Yes.
1) The Gameboy has a headphone socket (or failing that, a volume knob)
2) Its screen (while not great) is bigger than your average mobile phone's, which makes all the difference for games.
3) It has controls especially designed for games
Nintendo, I DEMAND that you cease this "innovation" crap immediately. Nobody wants to try new things - we only want what we are comfortable with.
You're twisting my words. I'm saying that the Stylus is NOT a new input form, it has been tried before and is CRAP.
Innovation in gameplay is great. 'Innovation' in the form of gimmicky controllers, be they styluses or boxing gloves, leads mostly to crappy games in which the entrie purpose of the product seems to be to showcase the controller, and instead of opening new possibilities, closes them down further to strict genre games (dancemat or light-gun, anyone?)
Oh wow! The possibilities of this exciting new form of input! Why, it's revolutionary, it's some sort of pointing device!
Like a mouse then?
Come on people, stylus input freakin' SUCKS BALLS. It's is rubbish. They tried similar things with light pens in the 1980s and instead of opening up new vistas of UI possibilty everyone totally hated them. Why don't they just stick a trackball on it and be done with it?
Seriously, stylus input is not more natural. It's a gimmick, and an expensive gimmick to boot (you need to bolt on a whole second screen??). People like conventional forms of input, they don't want to be scraping away like some medieval monk scribing out copies of the bible. As far as games are concerned, choices should be made with minimal efforts. My thumb twitches left, I move left. Right, I move right. I don't want to be describing circles with some sort of midget pencil, or painstakingly dragging my 'scalpel' from A to B, like one of those god-awful 'don't touch the wire or the buzzer goes off' so-called games. Does anyone like that sort of thing? Masochists maybe. Why don't you just spend your day threading needles, it would be about as much fun, and cheaper.
And as for that guy salivating over the modelling and level creation possibles - what, you need a stylus to do that?
I wouldn't give a five year old something that expensive to play with anyways.
Geez, I pity any of your future children.
"No, son, you can't play with this, this is Daddy's gameboy. Go and sit in the corner."
Funny this article coming up now, just an hour ago I was reading this article by UK games journalist Stuart Campbell, saying that the whole industry's holier-than-thou approach to piracy doesn't stand close scrutiny since historically such a large part of it is basically based on ripping off other people's ideas.
Stuart Campbell writes a lot of thought-provoking stuff on piracy... his main gist is that if games were cheaper and the industry didn't treat us with such contempt then they might sell more copies.
The reason console games are (or should) be less buggy is that they use standardised hardware.
PCs have all the testing problems you would expect from all those different set-ups, but instead of using patches as a last resort, they seem to be used an excuse to launch an unfinished game early to get the revenue stream moving.
Yeah, maybe. I've just seen too many guys for who these games compose the entirey of their social lives, and as such pump vast amounts of money and time into them in an attempt to gain kudos with their 'peers'. ;-)
I mean, this two-PCs guy had a family. I had visions of them eating their dinner, with the empty place. "Dad's off playing EVE online again, he won't be at dinner". Scary resonances with "Dad's drunk again, he won't be at dinner." Though that is taking it to an extreme!
Yeah, well Eve Online was pretty flakey, and you were playing Russian Roulette with the bluescreen if you even dared to so much as tab to the desktop, so you'd being doing well to get multiple instances of it running.
Your leader is a prime example of the addictive personality that these companies just love to suck dry.
Still, on Eve Online, I knew a guy who was buying a new PC to run his second account simultaneously. To grind to get money for his first account, natch.
Yeah, I hate the movies comparison too.
With movies, do you have to spend 95% of your time 'levelling up' waiting for something to happen? Do movies have such absurd demands on your time?
MMPORGs demand a considerable investment of time that is *not* fun. If I play for ten hours, I have not got ten hours of entertainment, maybe only a third of that. Sure you might say the exciting stuff is all that much more exciting 'cos you had to wait, but come off it that's like saying I should batter my face off a wall because it feels so good when I stop.
Plus, with MMPORGs, the customers are supplying a large part of the experience, unlike with movies (and don't mention those idiots who whoop and cheer in cinemas). Without customers, MMPORGs would be NOTHING. (Actually, I'm thinking a better comparison would be charging for entry to a club or bar).
Like you say, apples and oranges.
Just in case anyone is unfamiliar with the 3 laws they are:
1) Serve the public trust.
2) Protect the innocent.
3) Uphold the law.
4) ????