Every link at the top has "http://www.ptcu.com/#" as their URL, therefore doing no good to click on them. I have seen this problem on many sites using CSS.
I literally NEVER launch IE, except for their site. Really very annoying.
I know this won't help, but here is a copy of the letter I just sent.
From: Malachi de AElfweald To: infolaw@arentfox.com Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:15:15 -0700 Organization: EOTI Subject: AOL vs PENGAOL
I have never heard of either you, or pengaol, until today.
I read the article (posted here: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/12/17 10205&mode=nested&tid=120 ) and then followed it to the pengaol project site.
I note that you evidentally told them they had to relinquish the domain name pengaol.com. As a current domain-owner, Open Source developer, and future ISP-owner, I am curious what legal standing you had to require this of them? If they legally bought the name before AOL registered it, what right did AOL (or you) have to strong-arm them into relinquishing it?
Furthermore, what guarantee do I have that some large corporation (with questionable business tactics like AOL or Microsoft) won't pay your firm to steal domain names from me? Why are you not pursuing saol.net, taol.net, baol.co.uk, thedaol.net, etc (those came from a 30-second search on google).
They own the Logo, the Trademark, and certain domain names. They do not, however, own the letters AOL. They do not even own the acronymn. You might also notice that searching google.com for "America Online", the 5th entry is not even them.
Personally, I have been thinking about this a lot lately too -- for encryption and other software that I am writing.
I believe that the Patent office (and Copyright Law) are outdated and prevent the growth of technology. Why? Because the way it should work is that you design this new encryption, and it gets utilitized EVERYWHERE making everything better. Instead, what normally happens is that people patent things and it gets blocked from the public (either by the inventor, or the one he sells out to). This is part of the reason that medicines cost more than they should (see previous/. article), and the reason why we never see some kewl gadget that existed when our parents were kids. Look at OLED -- much better than LCD, cheaper to make, etc -- but CRT/LCD manufacturers loose money if they are mass produced.
Besides, someone could probably outdo your patent by adding the words "using binary" since the Patent Office is obviously NOT doing its job correctly (regarding tech/software/hardware).
But, how to make a living if it is OpenIP? If it is a "good" technology, then $5 registration or something MIGHT happen. However, if it is a "great" technology, perhaps by teaching -- ie: classes, books (O'Reilly, et al), etc... Try emailing O'Reilly and seeing if they would be interested in publishing a book on how it works if you write it.
One thing that I personally am very careful of, and most people on this list will probably flame me for it, is I wouldn't use GPL. GPL is like a virus, and you loose the ability to get the whole world to use it. Most companies I have worked for were more than willing to use BSD-based code, but wouldn't even look at GPL-code... So, if you want the whole world to use it, GPL will loose half your audience. If you don't care about it being used by the masses, then it might protect you more (I am not convinced on that matter due to 'cygwin').
Malachi
BTW: I thank **ALL** encryption can be brute-forced.
I originally signed up for 802/802 SDSL for $40/month. Less than a month later, they could no longer provide the service to us.
I moved 2 miles away, and the best option I was able to get was 384/384 ADSL for $40/month ISP and $40/month Phone. So $twice for less than 1/2 the bandwidth.
I contacted Verizon and asked why I couldn't have faster speeds. They said that there was a 26-gauge wire between me and the CO and that there were no plans to ever replace it.
And yet, I still pay twice as much for half as much. Kinda sucks, if you ask me.
Much of the script could be filmed from multiple cameras at once, then split into the different movies during editing. Then, every 3-6 months, you could come out with the next title -- all 7 on the big screen would just be awesome.
Interestingly enough, in the questionaire I recently filled out at the local cable access station, I said that my end goal was to do something like Incarnations for the big screen:)
My first book of his was "Race Against Time" (junior book). Then I moved on to Incarnations, Apprentice Adept, Kilobyte, Xanth (never could finish that series -- tired of my favorite characters going away), Mode, etc...
Incarnations had a very large impact on my own writing style, as it showed the ability to do things that no one else ever has. If any of you have not actually read that series, highly recommended, although book two is a bit slow...
OLED (Organic LED) would be much better. LED requires battery power to maintain the refresh, while OLED only requires battery power to delta the image. OLEDs are currently in manufacturing (some Pioneer stereos and JCPenny signs). They are cheaper to produce, and more usable.
Actually, the CORRECT solution would be for Sun's ExtClassLoader to allow directories to be specified for the 'java' and 'javah' commands, instead of just 'rmic' and 'javac' (ie: see -extdirs).
Or, assume ALL.jar and.zip (and.gz?) files in a directory on the classpath (ie: classpath=/extdir1:/extdir2) should be added.
While I understand the necessity of funds, and as much as I enjoy/., NO site is worth paying for. If there were any sites worth paying for, people would not have pwdz-lists online.
But let's think about what this really means. You know all those posts that require you register to read the original article -- I never read them. Is it because I don't want to register? Partially -- but mostly, I don't take the time to remember my name/pwd and login. As soon as I hit a link that says I have to login (other than like eTrade or my email), I simply close the window and *poof*, annoyance gone.
You say, "But you registered AND logged in to send this post." Accurate, to an extent. I logged in a few months ago, and never bother logging out. (Thanks Opera).
So, if/. has the popup advertisement -- well, Opera currently blocks those. If/. requires click-through, well, logout. If/. just has the graphics on this site, then it completely depends on how annoying it is.
Admittedly, the cost is extremely low (same as 2600 or something).... But if I support this type of behavior on/., then what site is safe?
BTW to the/. Staff... I think your advertisers are screwed in the head if they are going to require this. I personally click through your advertisements more than all the other sites put together -- because of their content. Making them larger makes me less likely to pay attention to them.
We were notified that we will be getting laid off at the end of May. A few months notice is better than the 36 hours Intel had given me before.
Unfortunately, I sent out about 30 emails -- with no one ever replying. I got one auto-response, and that was it. Last week, I made a couple phone calls then sent 3 emails.... At least got an acknowledgement letter from them this time...
But the market is REALLY not looking good. DICE went from 18 Java jobs in the area a month ago to 30 now -- as opposed to over 300 a year ago.
Personally, I find middle management to mostly get in the way. Most of the time, things get accomplished faster when we go directly to the upper management. However, that can become very time consuming. Lower management should be there to take care of obstacles to us meeting our deadlines or enjoying our jobs. I definitely prefer the managers that are coders though, so if the upper management in an organization are NOT, then lower management can provide a buffer to explain what we can accomplish in a given time frame.
But realistically, ANY manager would do better to read through and UNDERSTAND the Hackers Employment FAQ.
I agree that 'edu.cornell.resnet.jmk63.widget' can be a bit unwieldy, but let's take a moment to look at what we are really saying.
If you develop something FOR Cornell, then it should be in their package name, and you aren't allowed to take it with you (just ask HP).
If you are developing it FOR yourself, then it should not be in Cornell's package name.
Realistically, a domain name cost what, $8.95/yr? If you really plan on creating lots of widgets and would like to maintain them for yourself (inside and outside of college), then just buy your own domain and use that.
But, as I said, the package name you gave is too long.
Every Beta I have participated in mentioned (in the part of the contract that I actually read) that they have are not relinquishing any rights and are the owners of it all....
What did you have in your license agreement / contract with your Beta Team?
I have used many languages over the years. I dropped C/C++ for Java cold-turkey many years ago. I like the language a lot, but there is one thing that I have never seen in any programming language.
Take a look at Esperanto. Word order doesn't matter. In Esperanto, word endings determine which part of the sentence the word belongs to -- not the location in the sentence. "I walk my dog" could be written as "my dog I walk" and "dog my I walk" and they would all mean the exact same thing. No grammer to understand outside of the spelling of the words themselves.
Now, I am not saying that you should make a language that requires special endings or anything. I am simply saying it would be really neat to see a programming language that had NO SYNTAX RULES. Imagine the learning curve then.
Sorta true. If you ask the phone company for two unconditioned unmetered lines, they will sell them (in Oregon anyways) for $9/each. You buy two and make each one unidirectional. (like Sonitrol does)
However, there is a catch. As soon as they ask you if you are going to be hooking a computer to it, the price jumps to like $45/line.
The phone company screws you if they think that they are going to be loosing out on the deal. They DO care what you are doing with the lines.
Thus why I choose NOT to use Cable. On Telocity (which I can't wait to get hooked BACK up since AT&T bought out Northpoint)... I was getting 802KBps up and 802KBps down.... Why would I want to get 1/10th the speed (and even less going upstream if I want to run a server), not be able to run servers/linux/firewalls/NAT, and have to use a contract (or pay $300-800 early termination fee) for the same cost?
>> Just what are they supposed to do to track down license misuse?
I believe the legal thing to do is take the 2% writeoff that Feds give software companies for illegally obtained software. Yes -- any software company can write off some amount (2% last I checked) due to expected losses -- even if no one ripped off the program.
From what I understand, it depends on whether you are a contractor or not. In your case, you are not.
If you are hired as a contractor, they can pay you for when you are actually working, without paying you for being on call.
However, if you are an employee, I think they have to pay you for being available. I have been offered an on-call job before, and was going to be paid for 40hrs/wk + overtime -- whether I worked 40 or not. I could see them also paying you a different rate when you are there vs. when you are not. If you are a paid employee though, I think they have to pay you for being on call.
The two places I would check with would be the Secretary of States office (different rules for each state?) or possibly ask a well-known on-call profession (Doctor at a Hospital?)....
I have Black & White with a trackball (Logitech's cordless) and actually like it better than using Opera/Sensiva's with the mouse at work. Although I can do things like Close Window really easy with the mouse in Opera, some of the more complicated ones seem easier with the trackball.
I recently got DSL from Telocity. I was completely happy with the service (no contract, 802k up, 802k down, allow servers, etc)....
Then NorthPoint went bankrupt and sold to AT&T. Telocity was using them for the local connection. They said ETA 3 weeks. 5 weeks later, I get a phone call -- it is going to be another 90-120 days.
If every Telocity customer in the Portland area has to wait for another 4 months on top of the month and a half we already have, I would be surprised to see Telocity survive in this area. I really hope they do, because the next cheapest place offers less speed for 3 times the cost.
Hired administration. A few machines run by trusted students. Labs run by work-study students. Help desk run by students.
Although, I have to say, I was extremely impressed when the administration hired a new guy, and brought him to myself and a friend the very first day one year -- and told us to hack the network. When the new guy claimed we wouldn't be able to, the administrator laughed and told him to watch, then left. Needless to say, the new guy listed to us whenever we suggested change:) It was very nice.
Most of the students who ran a few of the machines left to become a local ISP.
I am personally looking at starting up an InternetCafe in downtown portland -- and fully intend to be hiring students to run the network.
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Their site is fine, unless you use Opera.
Every link at the top has "http://www.ptcu.com/#" as their URL, therefore doing no good to click on them. I have seen this problem on many sites using CSS.
I literally NEVER launch IE, except for their site. Really very annoying.
I know this won't help, but here is a copy of the letter I just sent.
7 10205&mode=nested&tid=120 )
From: Malachi de AElfweald
To: infolaw@arentfox.com
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:15:15 -0700
Organization: EOTI
Subject: AOL vs PENGAOL
I have never heard of either you, or pengaol, until today.
I read the article (posted here: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/12/1
and then followed it to the pengaol project site.
I note that you evidentally told them they had to relinquish the domain name pengaol.com.
As a current domain-owner, Open Source developer, and future ISP-owner, I am curious what legal
standing you had to require this of them? If they legally bought the name before AOL registered
it, what right did AOL (or you) have to strong-arm them into relinquishing it?
Furthermore, what guarantee do I have that some large corporation (with questionable business tactics like
AOL or Microsoft) won't pay your firm to steal domain names from me? Why are you not pursuing saol.net,
taol.net, baol.co.uk, thedaol.net, etc (those came from a 30-second search on google).
They own the Logo, the Trademark, and certain domain names. They do not, however, own the letters AOL. They do
not even own the acronymn. You might also notice that searching google.com for "America Online", the 5th entry
is not even them.
Thank you for your time,
Malachi de AElfweald
Personally, I have been thinking about this a lot lately too -- for encryption and other software that I am writing.
/. article), and the reason why we never see some kewl gadget that existed when our parents were kids. Look at OLED -- much better than LCD, cheaper to make, etc -- but CRT/LCD manufacturers loose money if they are mass produced.
I believe that the Patent office (and Copyright Law) are outdated and prevent the growth of technology. Why? Because the way it should work is that you design this new encryption, and it gets utilitized EVERYWHERE making everything better. Instead, what normally happens is that people patent things and it gets blocked from the public (either by the inventor, or the one he sells out to). This is part of the reason that medicines cost more than they should (see previous
Besides, someone could probably outdo your patent by adding the words "using binary" since the Patent Office is obviously NOT doing its job correctly (regarding tech/software/hardware).
But, how to make a living if it is OpenIP? If it is a "good" technology, then $5 registration or something MIGHT happen. However, if it is a "great" technology, perhaps by teaching -- ie: classes, books (O'Reilly, et al), etc... Try emailing O'Reilly and seeing if they would be interested in publishing a book on how it works if you write it.
One thing that I personally am very careful of, and most people on this list will probably flame me for it, is I wouldn't use GPL. GPL is like a virus, and you loose the ability to get the whole world to use it. Most companies I have worked for were more than willing to use BSD-based code, but wouldn't even look at GPL-code... So, if you want the whole world to use it, GPL will loose half your audience. If you don't care about it being used by the masses, then it might protect you more (I am not convinced on that matter due to 'cygwin').
Malachi
BTW: I thank **ALL** encryption can be brute-forced.
I completely agree. That is the type of software (OpenOffice, AbiWord, etc) current Windows users are likely to switch to with no qualms whatsoever.
Malachi
I originally signed up for 802/802 SDSL for $40/month. Less than a month later, they could no longer provide the service to us.
I moved 2 miles away, and the best option I was able to get was 384/384 ADSL for $40/month ISP and $40/month Phone. So $twice for less than 1/2 the bandwidth.
I contacted Verizon and asked why I couldn't have faster speeds. They said that there was a 26-gauge wire between me and the CO and that there were no plans to ever replace it.
And yet, I still pay twice as much for half as much. Kinda sucks, if you ask me.
Malachi
Completely agree. Although, I couldn't stand to name a child Natasha now :(
Much of the script could be filmed from multiple cameras at once, then split into the different movies during editing. Then, every 3-6 months, you could come out with the next title -- all 7 on the big screen would just be awesome.
:)
Interestingly enough, in the questionaire I recently filled out at the local cable access station, I said that my end goal was to do something like Incarnations for the big screen
My first book of his was "Race Against Time" (junior book). Then I moved on to Incarnations, Apprentice Adept, Kilobyte, Xanth (never could finish that series -- tired of my favorite characters going away), Mode, etc...
Incarnations had a very large impact on my own writing style, as it showed the ability to do things that no one else ever has. If any of you have not actually read that series, highly recommended, although book two is a bit slow...
Didn't he get fed up with the whole market and start his own publishing house?
OLED (Organic LED) would be much better. LED requires battery power to maintain the refresh, while OLED only requires battery power to delta the image. OLEDs are currently in manufacturing (some Pioneer stereos and JCPenny signs). They are cheaper to produce, and more usable.
Actually, the CORRECT solution would be for Sun's ExtClassLoader to allow directories to be specified for the 'java' and 'javah' commands, instead of just 'rmic' and 'javac' (ie: see -extdirs).
.jar and .zip (and .gz?) files in a directory on the classpath (ie: classpath=/extdir1:/extdir2) should be added.
Or, assume ALL
While I understand the necessity of funds, and as much as I enjoy /., NO site is worth paying for. If there were any sites worth paying for, people would not have pwdz-lists online.
/. has the popup advertisement -- well, Opera currently blocks those. If /. requires click-through, well, logout. If /. just has the graphics on this site, then it completely depends on how annoying it is.
/., then what site is safe?
/. Staff... I think your advertisers are screwed in the head if they are going to require this. I personally click through your advertisements more than all the other sites put together -- because of their content. Making them larger makes me less likely to pay attention to them.
But let's think about what this really means. You know all those posts that require you register to read the original article -- I never read them. Is it because I don't want to register? Partially -- but mostly, I don't take the time to remember my name/pwd and login. As soon as I hit a link that says I have to login (other than like eTrade or my email), I simply close the window and *poof*, annoyance gone.
You say, "But you registered AND logged in to send this post." Accurate, to an extent. I logged in a few months ago, and never bother logging out. (Thanks Opera).
So, if
Admittedly, the cost is extremely low (same as 2600 or something).... But if I support this type of behavior on
BTW to the
Malachi
We were notified that we will be getting laid off at the end of May. A few months notice is better than the 36 hours Intel had given me before.
Unfortunately, I sent out about 30 emails -- with no one ever replying. I got one auto-response, and that was it. Last week, I made a couple phone calls then sent 3 emails.... At least got an acknowledgement letter from them this time...
But the market is REALLY not looking good. DICE went from 18 Java jobs in the area a month ago to 30 now -- as opposed to over 300 a year ago.
Hmmm... so, if I don't like you running something like "Outlook", I could shut off your battery power...? interesting...
But realistically, ANY manager would do better to read through and UNDERSTAND the Hackers Employment FAQ.
I agree that 'edu.cornell.resnet.jmk63.widget' can be a bit unwieldy, but let's take a moment to look at what we are really saying.
If you develop something FOR Cornell, then it should be in their package name, and you aren't allowed to take it with you (just ask HP).
If you are developing it FOR yourself, then it should not be in Cornell's package name.
Realistically, a domain name cost what, $8.95/yr? If you really plan on creating lots of widgets and would like to maintain them for yourself (inside and outside of college), then just buy your own domain and use that.
But, as I said, the package name you gave is too long.
Every Beta I have participated in mentioned (in the part of the contract that I actually read) that they have are not relinquishing any rights and are the owners of it all....
What did you have in your license agreement / contract with your Beta Team?
I have used many languages over the years. I dropped C/C++ for Java cold-turkey many years ago. I like the language a lot, but there is one thing that I have never seen in any programming language.
Take a look at Esperanto. Word order doesn't matter. In Esperanto, word endings determine which part of the sentence the word belongs to -- not the location in the sentence. "I walk my dog" could be written as "my dog I walk" and "dog my I walk" and they would all mean the exact same thing. No grammer to understand outside of the spelling of the words themselves.
Now, I am not saying that you should make a language that requires special endings or anything. I am simply saying it would be really neat to see a programming language that had NO SYNTAX RULES. Imagine the learning curve then.
Sorta true. If you ask the phone company for two unconditioned unmetered lines, they will sell them (in Oregon anyways) for $9/each. You buy two and make each one unidirectional. (like Sonitrol does)
However, there is a catch. As soon as they ask you if you are going to be hooking a computer to it, the price jumps to like $45/line.
The phone company screws you if they think that they are going to be loosing out on the deal. They DO care what you are doing with the lines.
>> I typically get about 80-100kbps
Thus why I choose NOT to use Cable. On Telocity (which I can't wait to get hooked BACK up since AT&T bought out Northpoint)... I was getting 802KBps up and 802KBps down.... Why would I want to get 1/10th the speed (and even less going upstream if I want to run a server), not be able to run servers/linux/firewalls/NAT, and have to use a contract (or pay $300-800 early termination fee) for the same cost?
>> Just what are they supposed to do to track down license misuse?
I believe the legal thing to do is take the 2% writeoff that Feds give software companies for illegally obtained software. Yes -- any software company can write off some amount (2% last I checked) due to expected losses -- even if no one ripped off the program.
From what I understand, it depends on whether you are a contractor or not. In your case, you are not.
If you are hired as a contractor, they can pay you for when you are actually working, without paying you for being on call.
However, if you are an employee, I think they have to pay you for being available. I have been offered an on-call job before, and was going to be paid for 40hrs/wk + overtime -- whether I worked 40 or not. I could see them also paying you a different rate when you are there vs. when you are not. If you are a paid employee though, I think they have to pay you for being on call.
The two places I would check with would be the Secretary of States office (different rules for each state?) or possibly ask a well-known on-call profession (Doctor at a Hospital?)....
I have Black & White with a trackball (Logitech's cordless) and actually like it better than using Opera/Sensiva's with the mouse at work. Although I can do things like Close Window really easy with the mouse in Opera, some of the more complicated ones seem easier with the trackball.
But, if I had to make a choice -- VR Glove.
I recently got DSL from Telocity. I was completely happy with the service (no contract, 802k up, 802k down, allow servers, etc)....
Then NorthPoint went bankrupt and sold to AT&T. Telocity was using them for the local connection. They said ETA 3 weeks. 5 weeks later, I get a phone call -- it is going to be another 90-120 days.
If every Telocity customer in the Portland area has to wait for another 4 months on top of the month and a half we already have, I would be surprised to see Telocity survive in this area. I really hope they do, because the next cheapest place offers less speed for 3 times the cost.
Hired administration. A few machines run by trusted students. Labs run by work-study students. Help desk run by students.
:) It was very nice.
Although, I have to say, I was extremely impressed when the administration hired a new guy, and brought him to myself and a friend the very first day one year -- and told us to hack the network. When the new guy claimed we wouldn't be able to, the administrator laughed and told him to watch, then left. Needless to say, the new guy listed to us whenever we suggested change
Most of the students who ran a few of the machines left to become a local ISP.
I am personally looking at starting up an InternetCafe in downtown portland -- and fully intend to be hiring students to run the network.