how is that any different from "Vice" laws here in the US?
The State, a nominally accountable entity, does so, after due process of law. Who recourse do these detainees - some of whom are adults - have when they are kidnapped and abused by a private enterprise?
Uh, legal adulthood? I live in a civilised country, not China or the US, so I'm not sure why you think pointing out equally nobbed up US laws would be a compelling argument.
You're really reading far too little into the story. The (alleged) motivations behind the kidnappers is a strawman - would you support Scientology's right to kidnap, hold and abuse adults in order to "correct behaviour"? What matters is that victims are being held against their will by private individuals, with no recourse to help from the State.
Is that worse than the abuses carried out by the Chinese State? No, but it's a new type of abuse, and cold comfort to these new victims.
So, in China, you can pay a private firm to kidnap, lock up and abuse an adult, and if they escape, then the police will return them to the kidnappers?
So, do you just get to pick any adult, and is there a menu for the particular abuse that you want them to be subjected to? The mind boggles at the possibilities.
You should try to read and understand why AKP was elected, and what they represent.
OK, let's play!
Note that 57.4% of the Turkish electorate did not vote for AKP.
57.4 + 46.6 = 104%. Well, what's 4% here or there? Only Allah is perfect.
AKP advocate a liberal, capitalist economics.
Their platform is that everyone will get rich. That's not politics, that's marketing.
AKP has more female representatives in power than any other Turkish political party.
Wait - the largest party has the most female representatives? It's a miracle! Say... can you name any of these female representatives? What "power" do they actually wield?
AKP advocates further economic and cultural integration with the traditionally Christian nations of Europe.
Economic, yes: it's part of the "everybody gets rich" scheme. Cultural? I have no idea where you're getting that from. They tried to lift the ban on the hijab, remember? Is that the act of a party who wants the populace (not the legal system, the culture) to become less or more Islamic?
The leadership of AKP supported the USA in attempts to launch attacks on Iraq, against the wishes of the rest of parliament, and their backbenchers. Surely a true Islamist party would never support U.S. attacks on another Muslim nation, in any way whatsoever?
Uh... they supported the US action to depose the famously secular Saddam. Just because Bush was crazy enough to believe that a secular democracy would fill the vacuum doesn't mean anyone else was that deluded.
In some Kurdish areas AKP candidates have been voted in rather than those of Kurdish political parties. Surely a true Islamist party would never have representatives from non-Muslim backgrounds, and would stand no chance of being elected in non-Muslim areas? What is AKP doing?
You get that the AKP has to deny being a religious party so that it doesn't get banned, right? That the Constitutional Court voted 6 to 5 (1 short of the 7 needed) to disband them on that basis?
And lastly, are you familiar with the concept of taqiyya? If not, I'd read up on it. And pay less attention to what the supporters of AKP tell you (especially in pubs) and more on what the AKP actually do.
Because if they were true, then ipso facto, we be wrong. Since that's unpossible, the figures must be a filthy lie. So-called facts must not be allowed to interfere with our principled objection to rewarding creators for their work. Quod erat demonstrandum.
Yes, the Slashdot method is much more scientific: we declare that it's unpossible to quantify anything that we don't want to believe, and so therefore cannot be proved wrong.
So, under ideal conditions (exercising in a cold wet environment) you get 1 hour of "charging" - say, how much is that in use time? - for 12 hours of activity?
It's a sad state of affairs when you can't even market your snake oil convincingly. Heck, if you're going to get some free advertising from a joke product that you have no intention of making, you might as well push the boat out and claim that it heals the ozone layer and turns CO2 into unicorn burps.
Well, 30mm rounds are pretty expensive. You want to be sure to get them in a good cluster, and preferably lying down already, before you open up on them.
Yeah, except that same helicopter (same day, before the 17min Collateral Murder vid) crew DIDN'T fire when children and other noncombatants were present, and a second time when they also couldn't get a positive ID on insurgents. YEah, those damn baby-rapists
And hey, even if they did rape a baby, they'd probably only do it a couple of times, and only to babies that totally deserved it. What, you want them to be saints?
Actually, it sounds like exactly the sort of expensive worthless voodoo techno-babble scam run by Scientologists.
Hmm, it makes sense. Why go to all the bother of fleecing individuals one at a time, when the government's has already got a system in place to do it wholesale? It's far more efficient to go after a cut of the big cake.
You used to be cool, dude. You used to be out partying all night, thumbing your nose at the Man, man. What happened? It's like you just woke up as a geezer. What's next, bro? The Anti Hippity Hop Music Played Too Loud By Those Kids On My Lawn Act 2010?
The alternative is a game where everyone pays, so you're paying but not getting an edge. Your other choice is to not play anything. Wow, having a choice really sucks! Fuck that shit!
Agreed. I skipped this when it went through the regular news cycle, but now that I finally look, wow, it's astonishing. I got vertigo just looking at it, and now it's giving me Lovecroftian wiggins thinking that the "solid" ground under us is just a fragile shell. Urgh.
If you make that accusation, the principal can sue you for slander.
Yes, whether you are inside or outside the classroom when you yell it. So why doesn't the same apply to disciplining?
We are talking about constitutionally protected parody, not defamation.
That's one of the things that we're talking about, and the least interesting one because it's got nothing at all to do with the school.
There's also the entirely separate issue of whether the school can discipline or exclude students for their actions, if those actions take place outside the school but have an effect inside it.
So, can the school act if I stand outside the classroom and yell in through the window? Yes, or no?
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The State, a nominally accountable entity, does so, after due process of law. Who recourse do these detainees - some of whom are adults - have when they are kidnapped and abused by a private enterprise?
Uh, legal adulthood? I live in a civilised country, not China or the US, so I'm not sure why you think pointing out equally nobbed up US laws would be a compelling argument.
You're really reading far too little into the story. The (alleged) motivations behind the kidnappers is a strawman - would you support Scientology's right to kidnap, hold and abuse adults in order to "correct behaviour"? What matters is that victims are being held against their will by private individuals, with no recourse to help from the State.
Is that worse than the abuses carried out by the Chinese State? No, but it's a new type of abuse, and cold comfort to these new victims.
So, in China, you can pay a private firm to kidnap, lock up and abuse an adult, and if they escape, then the police will return them to the kidnappers?
So, do you just get to pick any adult, and is there a menu for the particular abuse that you want them to be subjected to? The mind boggles at the possibilities.
No, what was suspicious was that they weren't making Yankees shirts or iPod clones in the back seat.
OK, let's play!
57.4 + 46.6 = 104%. Well, what's 4% here or there? Only Allah is perfect.
Their platform is that everyone will get rich. That's not politics, that's marketing.
Wait - the largest party has the most female representatives? It's a miracle! Say... can you name any of these female representatives? What "power" do they actually wield?
Economic, yes: it's part of the "everybody gets rich" scheme. Cultural? I have no idea where you're getting that from. They tried to lift the ban on the hijab, remember? Is that the act of a party who wants the populace (not the legal system, the culture) to become less or more Islamic?
Uh... they supported the US action to depose the famously secular Saddam. Just because Bush was crazy enough to believe that a secular democracy would fill the vacuum doesn't mean anyone else was that deluded.
Uh... it's proselytising. Thanks for asking!
You get that the AKP has to deny being a religious party so that it doesn't get banned, right? That the Constitutional Court voted 6 to 5 (1 short of the 7 needed) to disband them on that basis?
And lastly, are you familiar with the concept of taqiyya? If not, I'd read up on it. And pay less attention to what the supporters of AKP tell you (especially in pubs) and more on what the AKP actually do.
Like, for example, what they've just done.
And as Saddam demonstrated, the most effective way to get rid of Sharia is with a dictatorship. "Democratic" Iraq is rapidly reverting to type.
Well, their gravitational pull does tend to make them cluster.
Well, you're off by several orders of magnitude, but apart from that... wait, there's no "apart from that".
Because if they were true, then ipso facto, we be wrong. Since that's unpossible, the figures must be a filthy lie. So-called facts must not be allowed to interfere with our principled objection to rewarding creators for their work. Quod erat demonstrandum.
Yes, the Slashdot method is much more scientific: we declare that it's unpossible to quantify anything that we don't want to believe, and so therefore cannot be proved wrong.
Uh, according to food suppliers, the actual population of the UK (3 years ago) was closer to 80 million than the 67 million official figure.
That does rather explain why house prices keep on rising far beyond wages, even in a recession.
So, under ideal conditions (exercising in a cold wet environment) you get 1 hour of "charging" - say, how much is that in use time? - for 12 hours of activity?
It's a sad state of affairs when you can't even market your snake oil convincingly. Heck, if you're going to get some free advertising from a joke product that you have no intention of making, you might as well push the boat out and claim that it heals the ozone layer and turns CO2 into unicorn burps.
It's an interesting idea, but I can see 2 problems with it:
Well, 30mm rounds are pretty expensive. You want to be sure to get them in a good cluster, and preferably lying down already, before you open up on them.
And hey, even if they did rape a baby, they'd probably only do it a couple of times, and only to babies that totally deserved it. What, you want them to be saints?
Informationally Partitioned Simian Launched Projectile Selection.
Actually, it sounds like exactly the sort of expensive worthless voodoo techno-babble scam run by Scientologists.
Hmm, it makes sense. Why go to all the bother of fleecing individuals one at a time, when the government's has already got a system in place to do it wholesale? It's far more efficient to go after a cut of the big cake.
Coming to an airport near you: the E-Meter Thetan-Terrorist Detectorator?
You used to be cool, dude. You used to be out partying all night, thumbing your nose at the Man, man. What happened? It's like you just woke up as a geezer. What's next, bro? The Anti Hippity Hop Music Played Too Loud By Those Kids On My Lawn Act 2010?
"Playing" EVE is like watching a screensaver. Watching other people "play" EVE? My Futility Detector just went off the scale!
The alternative is a game where everyone pays, so you're paying but not getting an edge. Your other choice is to not play anything. Wow, having a choice really sucks! Fuck that shit!
Motion recognition is not new. The claimed "invention" here is purely the business use to which the recognised motion is put.
This is like if I invent the pen, and you then patent using a pen to sign a contract, or draw a doodle. Holy shit, you're a frikkin' genius!
That's nice. Now, what can a school do?
Agreed. I skipped this when it went through the regular news cycle, but now that I finally look, wow, it's astonishing. I got vertigo just looking at it, and now it's giving me Lovecroftian wiggins thinking that the "solid" ground under us is just a fragile shell. Urgh.
Yes, whether you are inside or outside the classroom when you yell it. So why doesn't the same apply to disciplining?
That's one of the things that we're talking about, and the least interesting one because it's got nothing at all to do with the school.
There's also the entirely separate issue of whether the school can discipline or exclude students for their actions, if those actions take place outside the school but have an effect inside it.
So, can the school act if I stand outside the classroom and yell in through the window? Yes, or no?
Sure, the RFP should have said "Windows Vista, or better".