Pella is probably a billion dollar company. Try opening up a small shop called "xxxx Windows" in Remond and see how fast they start throwing bricks through your store windows and how fast sick the lawyers on you.
I was naively waiting to read about a $100 gpu that performed well enough to play today's games at lcd resolutions.
When you can build a very fast system with everything sans gpu for $400-$500 spending more than half the system cost on a single component sounds fucking stupid.
Linux is only useful on either a $300 crap box or a high end mainframe? WTF are you talking about? Anything in the middle and your better off with another OS?
"To summorize, its like asking why linux is better than windows to me. (linux is obviously better) "
Really? I guess you must own one of those crap walmart boxes then.
Your post has a few truths and a lots of BS. It's really unhelpful for someone truly interested in the differences between netbsd and linux.
"For the market of people who want to be following message boards and constantly updating their firmware, it's the best thing there is."
Uhh have you ever been to an Ipod message board? Talk about constant firmware updating...Any ipod board and especially the apple discussions one is chock full of obsessive Ipod users wondering if the newest firmware does xxxx. Hell, what did we have? Like 4 revs of Itunes in one month? Talk about haveing to constantly tweak, maintain and follow you mp3 player. At this point if your an ipod user and answer yes to updates, you've been through the ringer with updates. Many users have had horrible results with the updates btw leading to non-functioning sytems, missing libraries, and no internet access. First Bonjour is included then its yanked etc.
Plus your kidding yourself if you don't think that many Ipod users consider their device a hobby all to itself. There's the billion fm broadcasters, speaker docks, and all sorts of crap that people buy to plug into their Ipod. Don't even get me started on cases.
So maybe their nueros thing or whatever its called will be more "hacker" friendly, but overall as far as music players go Ipod is king if your an obsessive tweaker/collector/tinkerer. For way too many people the Ipod is some sort of lifestyle all to its own.
Since your building this machine yourself you will need a copy of XP to actually play the games on. Also is this thing just going to float in the air or something? I guess the "$500 budget game machine" sounds better than the "$700 budget game machine" which is what this really would cost to build. But why let facts get in the way of a good ad generator, I mean story.
btw that entire article could fit onto 2 pages if they could keep the ads down a bit. Has ad revenue really dropped that badly that even a site like Tom's needs to resort to tricks like this?
The ratio of text you actually read to ads and other misc garbage is 10% vs 90% at best. Thank god for the zap plugins bookmarklet.
This is exactly how MS operates. If you actually pay attention from initial product announcement, through Alpha, Beta, RC, and Final, the backtracking is simply incredible. If you look at what MS first promises and then what they end up delivering it's a fair assessment to say that every OS and many products they have released are total failures based on what they were really supposed to be able to do. They promise the world and then upon Final delivery have a product that doesn't accomplish 75% of what you were initially promised. They hype up the next release as the be all end all, and then quietly yank feature after feature from the real release. I don't know of any company that is as bad as MS at announcing vaporware year after year after year. I also don't know any company that is as good as MS at pulling the wool over everyone's eyes year after year after year. Never mind that the products are usually buggy for several product revisions. Hell with 2000 out of the box you had to wait for hotfixes to even get features that were "officially" in the product when you bought it.
Just IMO in all that but its free and it works very well. Its at least as good and I heard several user of the previous version of Iphoto saying they thought at the time that Picasa was better in many ways. Now most of those same people think they more or less equal with preference obviously given to there native app. If camera makers just bundled Picasa instead of whatever crap they currently use then digital camera users would be much happier.
It HAS to be a Moleskine. Any small paper notebook under $25 simply won't do. Oh make sure you have an "original" flickr Pro account with nothing but photos your Powerbook with that overdone transparent screen trick.
The both did WRONGLY invade and take over independant and sovereign nations. Just because he's not gasing 6 million people of one religion doesn't mean he isn't a complete asshole who hasn't set back US/foreign relations 50 years.
By every account, foreign relations, civil liberties, environmental law, deficit spending, job creation, he's the worst President we have ever had. Nobody except for 3rd world hating zealots and Christian zealots can objectivly say he's done anything right. No Christian I know including myself think's the things he has done are what "Jesus would want" or is the proper way for a Christian to even behave. Warmongering, telling americans CONSTANTLY that they are about to be attacked, literally giving polluters carte blanche to destory the enviornment, and holding people without cause or trial are NOT Christian and more importantly to most people NOT American values. Don't even get me started on his nation ruining spending habits.
So is Bush = Hitler? No, don't be stupid and don't try to deflect what he is doing by making such a ridiculous statement.
I agree with Otto. Domo arigato, Mister roboto. You can do it Otto.
I'm hardly an expert on the subject but Upnp works pretty well for me in the few applications I need it. It didn't used to, but once I upgraded my router this year it worked perfectly. Buggy router firmware is IMHO the #1 reason why people have so many issues with Upnp.
Making NAT users have to deal with port forwarding to get their apps to work for all these years was just a mean thing to do. "Are you sure xxx port is pointing at your machine?" "I think. Oh wait, I only UDP and Not TCP forwarded, check back in 30 minutes"
Then I'd get act all holier than though and spout out bullshit about how it "makes ZERO sense" to go to a garage and pay $19-$39 when you can do it at home for $10 a pop. And how your all suckers for wasting your money. Yawn.
Newsflash people, consumers are well aware that it costs more to print at home. Those that decide to do it anyway are well within their rights to do it anyway. Just like you ubber nerds who spend $500 on a video card, plently of people think paying an extra.30 to.50 a print isn't that a big deal.
Sure if you know someone printing 60 prints a month on a HP inkjet(god do they rape you on ink, buy a Canon already) you should suggest that its much cheaper to use Costco. But enough with proving its cheaper to print at a lab. Everyone already knows.
"Symantec CEO: Ok if you want to be like that we are going to release a immediate update to our suite on monday. With this update we are going to bundle a copy of the new version of Open Office."
Bill: Did I mention we are pushing out the FREE antivirus early in next month's windows update to hundreds of millions of users? Oh and if they continue to try to run any anti-virus software but ours, Security Center will tell users they are vulnerable every 5 minutes until they switch over to our anti-virus.
Bill: Oh and have fun dealing with millions of irate users who wonder some weird program called "Writer" keeps opening up their word docs with the formatting all screwed up.
If MS goes full force with their anti-virus software Symantec is dead within 6 months, end of story. The best Symantec can do is complain to regulators. And we all know how good regulators are at putting MS in its place.
How about this then? You go to the bank and deposit your money. Some customers are getting extra money free from the bank, you don't. You both used the same service but others got better treatment.
Don't you see why people are annoyed that some are getting free upgrades and some aren't? If I got a "non-upgraded" version I'd sure be tempted to return it. Only a fool wouldn't look out for his/her own interest.
Apple certainly is within its rights to do this. In fact other companies have been doing this sort of things since before computer were even invented. So really this is a non-story and not a big deal. But you can't honestly be surprised at the reaction that some people are having.
But then it's too late from a legal standpoint at least. I know that above all else most people are mad that they may not be able to download a show they wanted, but even 1 bad chunck is even to get you sued for copyright infringement.
Luckily for most people it just looks like HBO wants to annoy people, but they could just as easily go on a suing rampage like the RIAA.
Of course there is that legal gray area where HBO itself is the one offering the data. But then again in civil court who do you think it going to lose? The 10 Billion dollar company or the downloader?
"The people promoting drm aren't doing it to take away our freedom, but because they believe it is a type of "safety" feature or something."
Your flat out wrong on that. They are directly interested in taking away our freedom in every possible way. They want devices which are artificially single purpose and crippled. They want a constant stream of revenue based on purchasing the same material over and over. These scumbags are actively spending millions upon millions to make sure that in 5 years you don't have the ability to fast forward your Tivo, make backup copies of your music, or change channels during commercials. All of the above involve removing existing Freedoms. You honestly don't think they understand that? That is why they are the enemy and are evil. Because they understand it's all about taking away existing rights and freedoms. There is no other way beyond bullshit market-speak to explain their actions.
Btw the people who keep saying "big deal, it will all get broken anyway" are being shortsighted and too optimistic IMHO.
More zilla on the net can only be a good thing, but forcing that horrible horrible UI on anyone really isn't fair. I only hope that the words Mozilla or Firefox don't appear anywhere within the actual browser. The last thing the Mozilla foundation needs is anyone thinking that terd has anything to do with Mozilla/Firefox.
btw in system setup how many people these days are even going to pick Netscape over IE as their default browser? There is a whole generation of Net users out there never even used or heard of the old Netscape browser.
"the end result is that the product and community looks bad because of the lack of professionalism from even just a single individual."
Spot on dude. One person can easily destroy the reputation of a project by acting rudely or especially threatening. When even one person in charge of a project behaves badly it can lead to people avoiding your project due to lack of "professionalism". Its a great way to scare users off from your project who are expecting professional type behavior.
Please OSS developers, take a tip from the professionals out there who know how to act and represent their projects/companies. For example you'll never see a true professional like Steve Balmer get caught acting like a complete raving asshole/lunatic.
"Maybe, for once, this will be a decision that is not grounded in anti-competitive behavior?"
In reality its both. HD-DVD may very well be the sane choice, but that doesn't change the fact that time after time MS has proven that it only makes moves that are anti-competitive. This time both logic and their anti-competitive ideals just happen to be in alignment.
On principal alone I can simply not bring myslef to buy a 25.00 fucking dollar piece of rubber "skin" that costs pennies to make.
People paying 1/3 to a 1/4 of the original price of their Ipod for a.10 cent rubber case are the proof that the saying "A sucker is born every minute" still holds true.
Oh btw a big FU to Apple for charging $30 dollars for their armbands. $30 for a rubber strap and some velco to support a device that weighs.78 ounces? Umm, yea that's fair. It's a virtual punch in the face for anyone with common sense to see prices like that when your at a Apple store.
So only apps that cost you money are worth using? On the other side, do you have any idea much money and man hours have been put into that Free product?
I've yelled till I was blue in the face that if you need 100% MS Office compatiblity don't even bother with OO.org. But if that's not the case then its a pretty dam good Office suite. Certainly capable of handling 95% of the tasks that users need. Sure there is that 5% that have built their lives around certain MS Office only features, but they are the exception and not the rule.
Nobody here would argue with you if you simply prefer one to the other, but your 5 minute trial of OO.org and the fact that you attribute any perceived lack of quality due that the fact that its free...Well that just comes off sounds more than a bit Trollish.
" I would be surprised if there exists extention in FireFox that can't be recreated easily in Opera."
I wouldn't.
".FF probably just had bigger momentum behind it, so more extentions..."
And ask yourself exactly why everyone has chosen Firefox over Opera especially considering Opera has been around for 10 years.
"I wonder how it'll lok like when Opera is now free..."
They'll lose what little income they get from Desktop browser users? Opera was already Free via plentiful serial numbers and an adware version and nobody used it then. You think people are going to migrate to it now? Free as in beer sure as hell isn't going to entice the developers that have been working on Firefox or its addons.
Frankly the more browsers out there that aren't IE the better. But your deluding yourself if you think that this move is going to somehow gain any measureable marketshare for Opera.
Shitty as a main one. I watched the video and thought, cool those games seem like fun. And then I thought about having to constantly move your arms for hours at a time. My guess your arms will get tired after 5 minutes and you'll wish you had a regular controller. And finally they should just not even make than analog part. Having it seperated is just going to make your hands tired and be awkward for many games. Imagine trying to play an F1 game while having to keep both hands seperated? I don't know about you but when I use a controller, my arms form a bridge with the controller and allow me to better grip the controller and balance it. Seperate the controller in half and things just get awkward. Again I don't think this is universally bad. In many ways it may very well be "revolutionary" and that video definitely made me want to try it out. But I still stand by my opinion that its a neat 2nd controller and a crappy main one.
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My sarcasm detector just exploded.
Pella is probably a billion dollar company. Try opening up a small shop called "xxxx Windows" in Remond and see how fast they start throwing bricks through your store windows and how fast sick the lawyers on you.
$250 is a new breakthrough in affordability?
I was naively waiting to read about a $100 gpu that performed well enough to play today's games at lcd resolutions.
When you can build a very fast system with everything sans gpu for $400-$500 spending more than half the system cost on a single component sounds fucking stupid.
Linux is only useful on either a $300 crap box or a high end mainframe? WTF are you talking about? Anything in the middle and your better off with another OS?
"To summorize, its like asking why linux is better than windows to me. (linux is obviously better) "
Really? I guess you must own one of those crap walmart boxes then.
Your post has a few truths and a lots of BS. It's really unhelpful for someone truly interested in the differences between netbsd and linux.
"For the market of people who want to be following message boards and constantly updating their firmware, it's the best thing there is."
Uhh have you ever been to an Ipod message board? Talk about constant firmware updating...Any ipod board and especially the apple discussions one is chock full of obsessive Ipod users wondering if the newest firmware does xxxx. Hell, what did we have? Like 4 revs of Itunes in one month? Talk about haveing to constantly tweak, maintain and follow you mp3 player. At this point if your an ipod user and answer yes to updates, you've been through the ringer with updates. Many users have had horrible results with the updates btw leading to non-functioning sytems, missing libraries, and no internet access. First Bonjour is included then its yanked etc.
Plus your kidding yourself if you don't think that many Ipod users consider their device a hobby all to itself. There's the billion fm broadcasters, speaker docks, and all sorts of crap that people buy to plug into their Ipod. Don't even get me started on cases.
So maybe their nueros thing or whatever its called will be more "hacker" friendly, but overall as far as music players go Ipod is king if your an obsessive tweaker/collector/tinkerer. For way too many people the Ipod is some sort of lifestyle all to its own.
Since your building this machine yourself you will need a copy of XP to actually play the games on. Also is this thing just going to float in the air or something? I guess the "$500 budget game machine" sounds better than the "$700 budget game machine" which is what this really would cost to build. But why let facts get in the way of a good ad generator, I mean story.
btw that entire article could fit onto 2 pages if they could keep the ads down a bit. Has ad revenue really dropped that badly that even a site like Tom's needs to resort to tricks like this?
The ratio of text you actually read to ads and other misc garbage is 10% vs 90% at best. Thank god for the zap plugins bookmarklet.
This is exactly how MS operates. If you actually pay attention from initial product announcement, through Alpha, Beta, RC, and Final, the backtracking is simply incredible. If you look at what MS first promises and then what they end up delivering it's a fair assessment to say that every OS and many products they have released are total failures based on what they were really supposed to be able to do. They promise the world and then upon Final delivery have a product that doesn't accomplish 75% of what you were initially promised. They hype up the next release as the be all end all, and then quietly yank feature after feature from the real release. I don't know of any company that is as bad as MS at announcing vaporware year after year after year. I also don't know any company that is as good as MS at pulling the wool over everyone's eyes year after year after year. Never mind that the products are usually buggy for several product revisions. Hell with 2000 out of the box you had to wait for hotfixes to even get features that were "officially" in the product when you bought it.
Just IMO in all that but its free and it works very well. Its at least as good and I heard several user of the previous version of Iphoto saying they thought at the time that Picasa was better in many ways. Now most of those same people think they more or less equal with preference obviously given to there native app. If camera makers just bundled Picasa instead of whatever crap they currently use then digital camera users would be much happier.
It HAS to be a Moleskine. Any small paper notebook under $25 simply won't do. Oh make sure you have an "original" flickr Pro account with nothing but photos your Powerbook with that overdone transparent screen trick.
How about yuppleloggies?
The both did WRONGLY invade and take over independant and sovereign nations. Just because he's not gasing 6 million people of one religion doesn't mean he isn't a complete asshole who hasn't set back US/foreign relations 50 years.
By every account, foreign relations, civil liberties, environmental law, deficit spending, job creation, he's the worst President we have ever had. Nobody except for 3rd world hating zealots and Christian zealots can objectivly say he's done anything right. No Christian I know including myself think's the things he has done are what "Jesus would want" or is the proper way for a Christian to even behave. Warmongering, telling americans CONSTANTLY that they are about to be attacked, literally giving polluters carte blanche to destory the enviornment, and holding people without cause or trial are NOT Christian and more importantly to most people NOT American values. Don't even get me started on his nation ruining spending habits.
So is Bush = Hitler? No, don't be stupid and don't try to deflect what he is doing by making such a ridiculous statement.
I agree with Otto. Domo arigato, Mister roboto. You can do it Otto.
I'm hardly an expert on the subject but Upnp works pretty well for me in the few applications I need it. It didn't used to, but once I upgraded my router this year it worked perfectly. Buggy router firmware is IMHO the #1 reason why people have so many issues with Upnp.
Making NAT users have to deal with port forwarding to get their apps to work for all these years was just a mean thing to do.
"Are you sure xxx port is pointing at your machine?"
"I think. Oh wait, I only UDP and Not TCP forwarded, check back in 30 minutes"
You can get optical out and decent sound for way cheap.
"Creative Labs, the worst thing to ever happen to sound card industry."
the runner up was
"Creative Labs, holding back soundcard innovation for over a decade"
Then I'd get act all holier than though and spout out bullshit about how it "makes ZERO sense" to go to a garage and pay $19-$39 when you can do it at home for $10 a pop. And how your all suckers for wasting your money. Yawn.
.30 to .50 a print isn't that a big deal.
Newsflash people, consumers are well aware that it costs more to print at home. Those that decide to do it anyway are well within their rights to do it anyway. Just like you ubber nerds who spend $500 on a video card, plently of people think paying an extra
Sure if you know someone printing 60 prints a month on a HP inkjet(god do they rape you on ink, buy a Canon already) you should suggest that its much cheaper to use Costco. But enough with proving its cheaper to print at a lab. Everyone already knows.
"Symantec CEO: Ok if you want to be like that we are going to release a immediate update to our suite on monday. With this update we are going to bundle a copy of the new version of Open Office."
Bill: Did I mention we are pushing out the FREE antivirus early in next month's windows update to hundreds of millions of users? Oh and if they continue to try to run any anti-virus software but ours, Security Center will tell users they are vulnerable every 5 minutes until they switch over to our anti-virus.
Bill: Oh and have fun dealing with millions of irate users who wonder some weird program called "Writer" keeps opening up their word docs with the formatting all screwed up.
If MS goes full force with their anti-virus software Symantec is dead within 6 months, end of story. The best Symantec can do is complain to regulators. And we all know how good regulators are at putting MS in its place.
Symantec just had its air supply cut off.
How about this then? You go to the bank and deposit your money. Some customers are getting extra money free from the bank, you don't. You both used the same service but others got better treatment.
Don't you see why people are annoyed that some are getting free upgrades and some aren't? If I got a "non-upgraded" version I'd sure be tempted to return it. Only a fool wouldn't look out for his/her own interest.
Apple certainly is within its rights to do this. In fact other companies have been doing this sort of things since before computer were even invented. So really this is a non-story and not a big deal. But you can't honestly be surprised at the reaction that some people are having.
But then it's too late from a legal standpoint at least. I know that above all else most people are mad that they may not be able to download a show they wanted, but even 1 bad chunck is even to get you sued for copyright infringement.
Luckily for most people it just looks like HBO wants to annoy people, but they could just as easily go on a suing rampage like the RIAA.
Of course there is that legal gray area where HBO itself is the one offering the data. But then again in civil court who do you think it going to lose? The 10 Billion dollar company or the downloader?
"The people promoting drm aren't doing it to take away our freedom, but because they believe it is a type of "safety" feature or something."
Your flat out wrong on that. They are directly interested in taking away our freedom in every possible way. They want devices which are artificially single purpose and crippled. They want a constant stream of revenue based on purchasing the same material over and over. These scumbags are actively spending millions upon millions to make sure that in 5 years you don't have the ability to fast forward your Tivo, make backup copies of your music, or change channels during commercials. All of the above involve removing existing Freedoms. You honestly don't think they understand that? That is why they are the enemy and are evil. Because they understand it's all about taking away existing rights and freedoms. There is no other way beyond bullshit market-speak to explain their actions.
Btw the people who keep saying "big deal, it will all get broken anyway" are being shortsighted and too optimistic IMHO.
More zilla on the net can only be a good thing, but forcing that horrible horrible UI on anyone really isn't fair. I only hope that the words Mozilla or Firefox don't appear anywhere within the actual browser. The last thing the Mozilla foundation needs is anyone thinking that terd has anything to do with Mozilla/Firefox.
btw in system setup how many people these days are even going to pick Netscape over IE as their default browser? There is a whole generation of Net users out there never even used or heard of the old Netscape browser.
"the end result is that the product and community looks bad because of the lack of professionalism from even just a single individual."
Spot on dude. One person can easily destroy the reputation of a project by acting rudely or especially threatening. When even one person in charge of a project behaves badly it can lead to people avoiding your project due to lack of "professionalism". Its a great way to scare users off from your project who are expecting professional type behavior.
Please OSS developers, take a tip from the professionals out there who know how to act and represent their projects/companies. For example you'll never see a true professional like Steve Balmer get caught acting like a complete raving asshole/lunatic.
"Maybe, for once, this will be a decision that is not grounded in anti-competitive behavior?"
In reality its both. HD-DVD may very well be the sane choice, but that doesn't change the fact that time after time MS has proven that it only makes moves that are anti-competitive. This time both logic and their anti-competitive ideals just happen to be in alignment.
On principal alone I can simply not bring myslef to buy a 25.00 fucking dollar piece of rubber "skin" that costs pennies to make.
.10 cent rubber case are the proof that the saying "A sucker is born every minute" still holds true.
.78 ounces? Umm, yea that's fair. It's a virtual punch in the face for anyone with common sense to see prices like that when your at a Apple store.
People paying 1/3 to a 1/4 of the original price of their Ipod for a
Oh btw a big FU to Apple for charging $30 dollars for their armbands. $30 for a rubber strap and some velco to support a device that weighs
"well you get what you pay for."
So only apps that cost you money are worth using? On the other side, do you have any idea much money and man hours have been put into that Free product?
I've yelled till I was blue in the face that if you need 100% MS Office compatiblity don't even bother with OO.org. But if that's not the case then its a pretty dam good Office suite. Certainly capable of handling 95% of the tasks that users need. Sure there is that 5% that have built their lives around certain MS Office only features, but they are the exception and not the rule.
Nobody here would argue with you if you simply prefer one to the other, but your 5 minute trial of OO.org and the fact that you attribute any perceived lack of quality due that the fact that its free...Well that just comes off sounds more than a bit Trollish.
That's the dumbiest fucking thing I've ever heard. Just by doing a best of each decade or best of albums for popular bands your over 4GB.
Stupid comment, and no he doesn't have to prove shit to you.
Oh and whoever modded this up is a giant dildo as well.
" I would be surprised if there exists extention in FireFox that can't be recreated easily in Opera."
I wouldn't.
".FF probably just had bigger momentum behind it, so more extentions..."
And ask yourself exactly why everyone has chosen Firefox over Opera especially considering Opera has been around for 10 years.
"I wonder how it'll lok like when Opera is now free..."
They'll lose what little income they get from Desktop browser users? Opera was already Free via plentiful serial numbers and an adware version and nobody used it then. You think people are going to migrate to it now? Free as in beer sure as hell isn't going to entice the developers that have been working on Firefox or its addons.
Frankly the more browsers out there that aren't IE the better. But your deluding yourself if you think that this move is going to somehow gain any measureable marketshare for Opera.
Shitty as a main one. I watched the video and thought, cool those games seem like fun. And then I thought about having to constantly move your arms for hours at a time. My guess your arms will get tired after 5 minutes and you'll wish you had a regular controller.
And finally they should just not even make than analog part. Having it seperated is just going to make your hands tired and be awkward for many games. Imagine trying to play an F1 game while having to keep both hands seperated? I don't know about you but when I use a controller, my arms form a bridge with the controller and allow me to better grip the controller and balance it. Seperate the controller in half and things just get awkward.
Again I don't think this is universally bad. In many ways it may very well be "revolutionary" and that video definitely made me want to try it out. But I still stand by my opinion that its a neat 2nd controller and a crappy main one.