Your posting like someone here will read what you said and say "yea he's right, we shouldn't have done that". Why bother? We all know DOSing is wrong. You'd have as much luck reaching the author by yelling out the window as you do from posting here on/.
Obviously its Centrino douchbage, just a misspelling. Also as far as "promised to support linux". Why not read the actual article and see how Intel has been giving Linux the shaft on Centrino since it came out. Their promises are worth about as much as posts from Jackass AC's like you.
It's a stupid question because all your doing is testing the ability of someone to lie on the spot. If your interested in hiring a salsemen then fine keep using it. The rest of us who've heard this question a billion times will just give the stock answer we've given in every other interview. Your wasting both your time and the time of the potential candidate with that question. In short, stop using it.
What would be a better question? How about asking things that are related to the job at hand? Interviewing for an admin job? Have them detail a typical day at their last job. Have them talk about something that went really wrong and how they fixed it. You have their resume right in front of you. Grill them on it for things they'll need in this job. The only things you need to know are what exactly your looking for and what the person says they have. Beyond checking if they are professional looking, prepared, and intelligent, stick to questions relavant to the potential position. EVERYTHING else is a total waste of time.
Great for the.0005% of people who buy Apple laptops and then actually run Linux on them. Not so great for the rest of the world. You look at a decent laptop and chances are that it has Centrion "Inside".
When someone as big as Intel refuses to support linux on its hardware out of "IP" concerns. What kind of message does this send to the rest of the world, let alone smaller hardware vendors? Not good PR that's for dam sure.
It's all becoming just a blur. The differences between these Live CD's that is. The market right now is just way overcrowed with precious little difference between the actual Live CD's. I'm at the point now where I say pick one, ANY one, it just doesn't make much difference. Gnome is gnome and KDE is kde. The major difference beyond that is that some of these distros have more recent versions of applications.
If you want my opinion about what to try if you still haven't used a LiveCD yet try Knoppix, Morhpix, and DamSmall. Beyond that your just splitting hairs and wasting bandwidth downloading basically the same thing over and over.
You get that out of Steve Balmer's handbook or what?
"Yes I run linux, but I don't try to do dumb stuff that it wasn't designed for with it."
For someone who "says" they run Linux you sure have one hell of a negative attitude about it.
Re:The replacement is already here
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So your going to use Sarge as a base and then forever split from Debian's base Right? Because if your going to stay synced with mainline Debian I don't see how this is going to be a useful project that stays current, especially when you consider Debian's horrible installer.
btw from your white paper on Fedora
"I fear that a volunteer developer would be making himself an unpaid employee of Red Hat rather than a member of a real community."
Couldn't disgaree more with this FUD. Fedora is completely Fee and GPL thus ANY contributions are not in waste.
But I guess because of your agenda it seemed to make sense at the time to attack the other viable popular Free community based project.
Actually Mandrake is famous for rushing beta cycles. I used to beta test and the amount of negative feedback about how their releases still weren't "finished" was overwhelming with each and every release. They are also well known for shipping bleeding edge not finished products. So what they may call for example kde 3.2 might end up being a kde 3.2pre something. Same goes especially for kernels they ship. Look at Mandrake 9.2. Every Mandrake user I know says that was a completely botched release. Why are they remastering will tons of updates that should have made it into 9.2 Gold? Re: Red Hat don't by point-uh. As has been pointed out that's pretty much an urban myth. Both Red Hat 8.0 and Fedora prove that.
I agree, this is biggest thing since Monica. Right now I should be reading about dozens of people retiring and massive penalties for the staff's that did this. This is the fucking US Senate Judiciary Commitee for pete's sake. If we can't count on these people to be honest who can we count on?
Could you imagine instead of the Republicans doing this, this was instead the Democrats spying on George Bush's strategy sessions and then LEAKING the freaking confidential information to the world? Heads would role and there would be tens times are many "-Gate" words being pushed by the press right now.
I can only hope that this is taken seriously and that every single party to this is forced to resign and face civil and criminal charges.
Your talking about OSS software like say Gimp, K3b, Evolution, etc which have new features added all the time right?
Well compare OSS where new improved versions are available for FREE as compared to commercial software on the Windows front where updates which add "new interesting features" cost actual money. Seems to me like OSS even with is sometimes difficult software updates is a Hell of a lot better of a deal.
My last bit of advice is something you already know. Stick with software that's packaged specficially for your distro.
"this distribution would be seen by geeks as the best desktop Linux released to date."
Hardly. Geeks would rather use something that's truly free. Once you've used Linux for a bit installing a free Linux distro along with few Mozilla programs and WINE isn't that big a deal.
My fear with Xandros, Lindow, etc is that people new to Linux will come to think that paying for your Linux distro is normal and they will continue to keep using these mostly proprietary distros. It's not like I've never paid for a box set, but that was only to support a vendor who has the best intentions for OSS in general. Can you truly say that about all of these Jonny come lately distros?
Like I've said a billion times before. There is nothing wrong with using Proprietary software but why not try go with one of the Free distros? Its not like there isn't a shitload of information out there on how to do what you want with Fedora, Mandrake, Debian, Slcakware etc. Using and learning a Free distro and then passing that knowledge along to the world is what makes Linux and its Free distros great. I don't see the payoff in spending my time finding bugs for Lindows. The same isn't true for Fedora, Slackware, Debian, Mandrake etc.
Use what you want of course and all that. IMO though its the duty of Linux veterans and Slashdot to support the Free OSS distros to insure that the future of Linux isn't a bunch of closed source payware distros. Let's help insure that the best software remains Free.
Real Enlightenment development stopped once Mandrake Linux came out. Geoff "Mandrake" Harrison never got over that fact that the word Mandrake had become more associated with a Linux distro then his Elightenment project.
My favorite item from the tf2 News section of the website.
[December 18, 1998] - I Want My TF (TM) II
"Well folks, Team Fortress (TM) 2 will be here shortly and community sites are popping up all over the web. Clans are starting to form, Tournaments are being planned, and information pages are being posted."
Funny how your picking apps that were never meant to be "Gnome" apps in the first place. These were all independant apps that were NOT built from the ground up to be Gnomified. Mozilla is the de facto "GNOME" browser? Since when? I could just as easily say "use that new neat QT wrapper thingy that makes gtk apps behave like QT apps". Who has all of the "good apps" then?
Gnome has a habit of just picking the best apps and then "adopting" them so I don't think its fair to start saying these apps are blowing away KDE counterparts. Since when can't you run Gimp, Mozilla, OpenOffice.org in KDE? You can, thus your point is moot. Try and get over the whole Gnome or KDE has better apps thingy. Be happy that you can run any of these apps easily from any Window Manager.
Yes but who cares if only 5 people use it? The rest of web can go on suffering the crap that scumbag advertisers use while we fly below the radar.
It doesn't take any skin off my back if Mozilla never becomes popular. Your first mistake was thinking that it does. I agree with the parent. The web isn't new. If the average Joe can't figure that things like Avant and Mozilla greatly enhance their web experience then shame on them. They're probably the same people who never bothered to find out that you don't need to keep the same homepage that your ISP gives you.
I know some people will think that's a snotty comment, but come on now. You have to take responsibility for yourself at some point. Web browsing isn't rocket science.
"I'd love to have an easy to use system that I could handle without much difficulty while still having the power of Unix at hand should I want it.
This is not Linux."
But it IS Linux. I know this will come as a shock to Apple fans, but OS X isn't the be all end all of Unix desktops. I like many Linux users don't want a pc equiv of OS X. OS X does many things right, but it also does a lot wrong. OS X for x86 would be a real threat to Microsoft and would no doubt get more users using a semi-Unix but it's not what I'm looking for.
The only thing missing from Mandrake, Red Hat etc is real support from software and hardware makers. Documented hardware IS truly plug and play. Getting software installed/uninstalled IS moron proof provided that its packaged correctly. Like you said installation is easy as pie.
Imagine a distro running the 2.6 kernel with full oem hardware support, KDE 3.2, and the support of all the big software ISV's. At this point you have an OS that is easily as good as OS X and XP. So your right that we are indeed waiting, but not for OS X to come to the PC. We are in fact just waiting for Hardware and Software OEM's to fully support Linux. Maybe that won't ever happen, but if it does then you can rest assured that there will be no reason to pine for OS X on the PC.
The way I see it you have 3 options. 1) Buy an expensive Mac, thus putting yourself under the thumb of Apple and in a situation which is NOT an improvement over running XP. 2) Wait for OS X to come to the PC. 3) Wait for hardware and software makers to get off their asses and finally support Linux. It has been a long road, but I'm sticking with number 3. Number 1 is not and never will be an appealing option to me and most others.
You thought ALL bugs in opensource software would be eliminted? Sorry to sound flip but like are you new to the world of computers and software or something? The point isn't that both Linux and Microsoft software have security problems, that will ALWAYS be the case. The point is with Linux and OSS software security problems are fixed quicker and can't be covered up and ignored like in the commercial world. Shit they have the freaking code to OSS and even according to you the amount of crictical bugs was the same as MS's? Is there any more daming evidence against closed source software? I mean if all of the holes are in the open and isn't in a 100 to 1 ratio against OSS doesn't that say a shitload about the quality of OSS software?
Most linux admins I know were not scrambling just as much as MS ones. In fact talk to anybody in the industry and that is just par for the course. Linux admins as a whole enjoy better uptime and less security problems. If you feel differently be assured that you are in fact in the minority.
So No, OSS security Didn't "suck" in 2003 as you Trollishly put it. It sounds like the security practices and linux experience level at your company sure does though.
I'm not at the point where I can give a thumbs up to any of these projects yet, but that's only because they are so new. I predict one of these is going to become a very popular. The great thing RHEL has going for it besides its stabilty is how long it will be supported. There is something to be said for not having to worry about doing major updates on your server for five years. If a OS "works" and there are no security problems why update to new versions? Like I said right now there is no clear winner because literally not enough time has passed to see what project is going to stick around long term. The one that does is going to find a lot of users like myself who find the moron proof Installation, stability and long term viability a real plus.
The AC has it right. Intel's outrageously overpriced Emergency Edition was a direct response to AMD's chip, Not the other way around. Do some googling if you still think your version of what happened is right.
You just got a bad drive that's all. Maxtors, Western Digital, Seagate, Samsungs etc ALL go bad. I have a few different Maxtors running at my house that have been on 24x7 for years with no problems Swear off Maxtor if you want, but going to WD or Seagate isn't going to keep you from getting any more bad drives. That's just the way it goes.
If they want to eumulate Fedora they need to do away with Yast's licensing issues. I don't see that happening.
Re:How long before people start gaming the system?
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You mean kinda like how Google is getting ruined by scumbags who set up thousands of fake sites that just refer everything you've ever searched for directly to Amazon? Google has become almost worthless for product research anymore. Sure its still "better" than anything going, but the spammers and marketers have filled it with way too much garbage.
"and we forgive them their tresspasses and blame it on the economy or whatever?"
So like did you just log off the internet the day Red Hat announced their changes and just logon again today? Because that's the only way I can fathom that you would write what you just wrote.
Red Hat has been crucified all over the internet and here especially for their decision. I can't count how many posted here that Red Hat has "screwed them" and how they'll never use them again. They've lost a good deal of users so don't you go thinking they are somehow coming out ahead on this. Hell before they even did that you had lots of linux users calling them Redhate and the "microsoft of linux". So No they weren't forgiven.
As far as blasting Microsoft for not thinking of this earlier that's a very valid point. Why the hell is MS at this late juncture stepping up and announcing this? Microsoft's announcement date prompted countless companies to spend lots of time and money upgrading to new OS's and hardware. If Microsoft hadn't been using the date as a marketing tool to get people to upgrade, and that's exactly what happened, they could have saved many IT department lots of time and money. The fact that you think upgrading to more modern hardware and software if a good thing is not relevant. The fact that people could have stayed with what works for them is. So yea I can see why a lot of people would be pissed even though on the surface this seems like a "blessing" for Win 98 users.
Re:Debian based ApeXtreme to take on Xbox Live!
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" Microsoft (to its credit) is bringing internet gaming to the masses with its Xbox Live!"
??? You can't be serious. I'm all for giving due credit, but MS doesn't get credit for this one.
Maybe give Microsoft credit for bringing a good online gaming experience to Xbox owners, but the masses have already been online gaming for years now. Also considering how early MS is into their service it can hardly be declared a complete success. They are not even the first console maker to have a bunch of gamers online. The Dreamcast gets credit for that.
The same people who play Xbox live have been playing online for years now. Its questionable if people who aren't already into online gaming are even using Xbox Live. So if your going to be giving credit maybe give credit to Sega or the true pioneers of gaming for the "masses" Epic and ID.
The download version is worthless because of the features cut out from it and the payware version doesn't have anything I haven't seen in a ton of other Knoppix mods. Nvidia drivers, flash, USB Thumbdrive support, acrobat? These are all things many LiveCd's have.
I just don't see the point of this distro except for Mandrake users who don't know that you can download basically the same thing for free with other Live cd's. The things Mandrake is known for, ie ease of install, ease of longterm admin don't apply in the transient nature of Live cd's. Compared to what's already available for Free the Mandrake version is just not compelling enough to make people pay for it.
Hope they are doing this more as a service then something they actually hope to make money on.
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Your posting like someone here will read what you said and say "yea he's right, we shouldn't have done that". /.
Why bother? We all know DOSing is wrong. You'd have as much luck reaching the author by yelling out the window as you do from posting here on
Obviously its Centrino douchbage, just a misspelling. Also as far as "promised to support linux". Why not read the actual article and see how Intel has been giving Linux the shaft on Centrino since it came out. Their promises are worth about as much as posts from Jackass AC's like you.
It's a stupid question because all your doing is testing the ability of someone to lie on the spot. If your interested in hiring a salsemen then fine keep using it. The rest of us who've heard this question a billion times will just give the stock answer we've given in every other interview. Your wasting both your time and the time of the potential candidate with that question. In short, stop using it.
What would be a better question?
How about asking things that are related to the job at hand? Interviewing for an admin job? Have them detail a typical day at their last job. Have them talk about something that went really wrong and how they fixed it. You have their resume right in front of you. Grill them on it for things they'll need in this job.
The only things you need to know are what exactly your looking for and what the person says they have. Beyond checking if they are professional looking, prepared, and intelligent, stick to questions relavant to the potential position. EVERYTHING else is a total waste of time.
Great for the .0005% of people who buy Apple laptops and then actually run Linux on them. Not so great for the rest of the world. You look at a decent laptop and chances are that it has Centrion "Inside".
When someone as big as Intel refuses to support linux on its hardware out of "IP" concerns. What kind of message does this send to the rest of the world, let alone smaller hardware vendors? Not good PR that's for dam sure.
It's all becoming just a blur. The differences between these Live CD's that is. The market right now is just way overcrowed with precious little difference between the actual Live CD's. I'm at the point now where I say pick one, ANY one, it just doesn't make much difference. Gnome is gnome and KDE is kde. The major difference beyond that is that some of these distros have more recent versions of applications.
If you want my opinion about what to try if you still haven't used a LiveCD yet try Knoppix, Morhpix, and DamSmall. Beyond that your just splitting hairs and wasting bandwidth downloading basically the same thing over and over.
You get that out of Steve Balmer's handbook or what?
"Yes I run linux, but I don't try to do dumb stuff that it wasn't designed for with it."
For someone who "says" they run Linux you sure have one hell of a negative attitude about it.
So your going to use Sarge as a base and then forever split from Debian's base Right? Because if your going to stay synced with mainline Debian I don't see how this is going to be a useful project that stays current, especially when you consider Debian's horrible installer.
btw from your white paper on Fedora
"I fear that a volunteer developer would be making himself an unpaid employee of Red Hat rather than a member of a real community."
Couldn't disgaree more with this FUD. Fedora is completely Fee and GPL thus ANY contributions are not in waste.
But I guess because of your agenda it seemed to make sense at the time to attack the other viable popular Free community based project.
Actually Mandrake is famous for rushing beta cycles. I used to beta test and the amount of negative feedback about how their releases still weren't "finished" was overwhelming with each and every release. They are also well known for shipping bleeding edge not finished products. So what they may call for example kde 3.2 might end up being a kde 3.2pre something. Same goes especially for kernels they ship. Look at Mandrake 9.2. Every Mandrake user I know says that was a completely botched release. Why are they remastering will tons of updates that should have made it into 9.2 Gold?
Re: Red Hat don't by point-uh. As has been pointed out that's pretty much an urban myth. Both Red Hat 8.0 and Fedora prove that.
I agree, this is biggest thing since Monica. Right now I should be reading about dozens of people retiring and massive penalties for the staff's that did this. This is the fucking US Senate Judiciary Commitee for pete's sake. If we can't count on these people to be honest who can we count on?
Could you imagine instead of the Republicans doing this, this was instead the Democrats spying on George Bush's strategy sessions and then LEAKING the freaking confidential information to the world? Heads would role and there would be tens times are many "-Gate" words being pushed by the press right now.
I can only hope that this is taken seriously and that every single party to this is forced to resign and face civil and criminal charges.
Your talking about OSS software like say Gimp, K3b, Evolution, etc which have new features added all the time right?
Well compare OSS where new improved versions are available for FREE as compared to commercial software on the Windows front where updates which add "new interesting features" cost actual money. Seems to me like OSS even with is sometimes difficult software updates is a Hell of a lot better of a deal.
My last bit of advice is something you already know. Stick with software that's packaged specficially for your distro.
"this distribution would be seen by geeks as the best desktop Linux released to date."
Hardly. Geeks would rather use something that's truly free. Once you've used Linux for a bit installing a free Linux distro along with few Mozilla programs and WINE isn't that big a deal.
My fear with Xandros, Lindow, etc is that people new to Linux will come to think that paying for your Linux distro is normal and they will continue to keep using these mostly proprietary distros. It's not like I've never paid for a box set, but that was only to support a vendor who has the best intentions for OSS in general. Can you truly say that about all of these Jonny come lately distros?
Like I've said a billion times before. There is nothing wrong with using Proprietary software but why not try go with one of the Free distros? Its not like there isn't a shitload of information out there on how to do what you want with Fedora, Mandrake, Debian, Slcakware etc. Using and learning a Free distro and then passing that knowledge along to the world is what makes Linux and its Free distros great. I don't see the payoff in spending my time finding bugs for Lindows. The same isn't true for Fedora, Slackware, Debian, Mandrake etc.
Use what you want of course and all that. IMO though its the duty of Linux veterans and Slashdot to support the Free OSS distros to insure that the future of Linux isn't a bunch of closed source payware distros. Let's help insure that the best software remains Free.
Real Enlightenment development stopped once Mandrake Linux came out. Geoff "Mandrake" Harrison never got over that fact that the word Mandrake had become more associated with a Linux distro then his Elightenment project.
jk
My favorite item from the tf2 News section of the website.
[December 18, 1998] - I Want My TF (TM) II
"Well folks, Team Fortress (TM) 2 will be here shortly and community sites are popping up all over the web. Clans are starting to form, Tournaments are being planned, and information pages are being posted."
Who knew shortly meant never?
Funny how your picking apps that were never meant to be "Gnome" apps in the first place. These were all independant apps that were NOT built from the ground up to be Gnomified. Mozilla is the de facto "GNOME" browser? Since when? I could just as easily say "use that new neat QT wrapper thingy that makes gtk apps behave like QT apps". Who has all of the "good apps" then?
Gnome has a habit of just picking the best apps and then "adopting" them so I don't think its fair to start saying these apps are blowing away KDE counterparts. Since when can't you run Gimp, Mozilla, OpenOffice.org in KDE? You can, thus your point is moot. Try and get over the whole Gnome or KDE has better apps thingy. Be happy that you can run any of these apps easily from any Window Manager.
Yes but who cares if only 5 people use it? The rest of web can go on suffering the crap that scumbag advertisers use while we fly below the radar.
It doesn't take any skin off my back if Mozilla never becomes popular. Your first mistake was thinking that it does. I agree with the parent. The web isn't new. If the average Joe can't figure that things like Avant and Mozilla greatly enhance their web experience then shame on them. They're probably the same people who never bothered to find out that you don't need to keep the same homepage that your ISP gives you.
I know some people will think that's a snotty comment, but come on now. You have to take responsibility for yourself at some point. Web browsing isn't rocket science.
"I'd love to have an easy to use system that I could handle without much difficulty while still having the power of Unix at hand should I want it.
This is not Linux."
But it IS Linux. I know this will come as a shock to Apple fans, but OS X isn't the be all end all of Unix desktops. I like many Linux users don't want a pc equiv of OS X. OS X does many things right, but it also does a lot wrong. OS X for x86 would be a real threat to Microsoft and would no doubt get more users using a semi-Unix but it's not what I'm looking for.
The only thing missing from Mandrake, Red Hat etc is real support from software and hardware makers. Documented hardware IS truly plug and play. Getting software installed/uninstalled IS moron proof provided that its packaged correctly. Like you said installation is easy as pie.
Imagine a distro running the 2.6 kernel with full oem hardware support, KDE 3.2, and the support of all the big software ISV's. At this point you have an OS that is easily as good as OS X and XP. So your right that we are indeed waiting, but not for OS X to come to the PC. We are in fact just waiting for Hardware and Software OEM's to fully support Linux. Maybe that won't ever happen, but if it does then you can rest assured that there will be no reason to pine for OS X on the PC.
The way I see it you have 3 options. 1) Buy an expensive Mac, thus putting yourself under the thumb of Apple and in a situation which is NOT an improvement over running XP. 2) Wait for OS X to come to the PC. 3) Wait for hardware and software makers to get off their asses and finally support Linux. It has been a long road, but I'm sticking with number 3. Number 1 is not and never will be an appealing option to me and most others.
You thought ALL bugs in opensource software would be eliminted? Sorry to sound flip but like are you new to the world of computers and software or something? The point isn't that both Linux and Microsoft software have security problems, that will ALWAYS be the case. The point is with Linux and OSS software security problems are fixed quicker and can't be covered up and ignored like in the commercial world. Shit they have the freaking code to OSS and even according to you the amount of crictical bugs was the same as MS's? Is there any more daming evidence against closed source software? I mean if all of the holes are in the open and isn't in a 100 to 1 ratio against OSS doesn't that say a shitload about the quality of OSS software?
Most linux admins I know were not scrambling just as much as MS ones. In fact talk to anybody in the industry and that is just par for the course. Linux admins as a whole enjoy better uptime and less security problems. If you feel differently be assured that you are in fact in the minority.
So No, OSS security Didn't "suck" in 2003 as you Trollishly put it. It sounds like the security practices and linux experience level at your company sure does though.
I'm not at the point where I can give a thumbs up to any of these projects yet, but that's only because they are so new. I predict one of these is going to become a very popular. The great thing RHEL has going for it besides its stabilty is how long it will be supported. There is something to be said for not having to worry about doing major updates on your server for five years. If a OS "works" and there are no security problems why update to new versions?
Like I said right now there is no clear winner because literally not enough time has passed to see what project is going to stick around long term. The one that does is going to find a lot of users like myself who find the moron proof Installation, stability and long term viability a real plus.
The AC has it right. Intel's outrageously overpriced Emergency Edition was a direct response to AMD's chip, Not the other way around. Do some googling if you still think your version of what happened is right.
You just got a bad drive that's all. Maxtors, Western Digital, Seagate, Samsungs etc ALL go bad. I have a few different Maxtors running at my house that have been on 24x7 for years with no problems Swear off Maxtor if you want, but going to WD or Seagate isn't going to keep you from getting any more bad drives. That's just the way it goes.
If they want to eumulate Fedora they need to do away with Yast's licensing issues. I don't see that happening.
You mean kinda like how Google is getting ruined by scumbags who set up thousands of fake sites that just refer everything you've ever searched for directly to Amazon? Google has become almost worthless for product research anymore. Sure its still "better" than anything going, but the spammers and marketers have filled it with way too much garbage.
"and we forgive them their tresspasses and blame it on the economy or whatever?"
So like did you just log off the internet the day Red Hat announced their changes and just logon again today? Because that's the only way I can fathom that you would write what you just wrote.
Red Hat has been crucified all over the internet and here especially for their decision. I can't count how many posted here that Red Hat has "screwed them" and how they'll never use them again. They've lost a good deal of users so don't you go thinking they are somehow coming out ahead on this. Hell before they even did that you had lots of linux users calling them Redhate and the "microsoft of linux". So No they weren't forgiven.
As far as blasting Microsoft for not thinking of this earlier that's a very valid point. Why the hell is MS at this late juncture stepping up and announcing this? Microsoft's announcement date prompted countless companies to spend lots of time and money upgrading to new OS's and hardware. If Microsoft hadn't been using the date as a marketing tool to get people to upgrade, and that's exactly what happened, they could have saved many IT department lots of time and money. The fact that you think upgrading to more modern hardware and software if a good thing is not relevant. The fact that people could have stayed with what works for them is. So yea I can see why a lot of people would be pissed even though on the surface this seems like a "blessing" for Win 98 users.
" Microsoft (to its credit) is bringing internet gaming to the masses with its Xbox Live!"
??? You can't be serious. I'm all for giving due credit, but MS doesn't get credit for this one.
Maybe give Microsoft credit for bringing a good online gaming experience to Xbox owners, but the masses have already been online gaming for years now. Also considering how early MS is into their service it can hardly be declared a complete success. They are not even the first console maker to have a bunch of gamers online. The Dreamcast gets credit for that.
The same people who play Xbox live have been playing online for years now. Its questionable if people who aren't already into online gaming are even using Xbox Live. So if your going to be giving credit maybe give credit to Sega or the true pioneers of gaming for the "masses" Epic and ID.
The download version is worthless because of the features cut out from it and the payware version doesn't have anything I haven't seen in a ton of other Knoppix mods. Nvidia drivers, flash, USB Thumbdrive support, acrobat? These are all things many LiveCd's have.
I just don't see the point of this distro except for Mandrake users who don't know that you can download basically the same thing for free with other Live cd's. The things Mandrake is known for, ie ease of install, ease of longterm admin don't apply in the transient nature of Live cd's. Compared to what's already available for Free the Mandrake version is just not compelling enough to make people pay for it.
Hope they are doing this more as a service then something they actually hope to make money on.