It does always bug me that the people who are so mistrustful that they refuse to accept that US astronauts did in fact land on the moon. One of them even harassed Buzz Aldrin to the point that Buzz (in his late 70s) dropped the guy with one punch to the face. CNN just had a front page article where they stated that around 25% of 18-25 year olds doubted the truth of the landing. That is utterly depressing, showing the current level of science education.
Honestly, I think the best argument is that the Soviets would definitely have called us out on not landing. They would have had the technology to disprove us, and don't tell me that they wouldn't have called us out.
There is lots of very useful information on the internet. Martial Arts weapons are a perfectly good example of finding high-quality, even admissable evidence. There is a Youtube series devoted for researching just such a topic. Feel free to search for "Ask a Ninja".
So it is not "legal" to listen to music on last.fm? Can I get sued by the RIAA if I listen to songs on last.fm? If it is "illegal" to have music on last.fm, then why doesn't the RIAA send a cease and desist to CBS/last.fm? If it is legal, then why would CBS release that information? Is it so that the RIAA can have a list of IPs with names to go after if they think someone is pirating music?
Well, actually that is what people in Latin America (spanish speakers) would call people from the United States. Estado unidense or United Staters. If someone from the USA would refer to themselves as an "Americano" then they would say, "well, I am an American too. A South American".
Short story - You have your facts unbelievably wrong.
Long story - It is amazing how you are able to attack with unsubstantiated claims and then claim victimhood at the same time. As a Mormon, I don't consider your post to be hate speech - just wholly uniformed and misleading. Hate speech (in my opinion) motivates others to do violence.
But I'm going to refute your claims with a question. Can you prove that the LDS leadership makes a lot of money from its membership? Thomas Monson still lives in the same scary East Salt Lake neighborhood that he lived where he grew up. He still lives in the same house that he and his wife raised their children in. Dieter Uchtdorf said that he essentially lives off his pension from Lufthansa. Hugh Nibley, with all of the books that he wrote, lived in the same "tiny" house just a few blocks south of BYU until he died at the age of 94. When church leaders travel, they usually stay with members of the church. Neal Maxwell stayed at my sister's house once. I know someone else that had Gordon Hinkley stay at their house. And a personal anecdote: a friend went to a training meeting at BYU with three apostles, Russel Nelson, Dallin Oaks, and David Haight. He said that after the meeting he had a question for Oaks, and went up to talk to him. He walked and spoke with the men on the way to the car. So Oaks answered his question, shook his hand and got into the drivers seat of his Ford Taurus, while the other two also got into the car and drove back to Salt Lake. So, in other words, the former professor of law at the University of Chicago and justice of the Utah Supreme court, a retired Cardiologist, and the former mayor of Palo Alto all car pooled in a Ford Taurus. So, if the Mormon hierarchy are getting rich, how are they spending it? Mansions? Fabulous automobiles?
The truth is that the LDS church builds a lot of church buildings and temples. The church also operates several universities. My job is to function as the "Ward Clerk". I see the money that goes in and out. We spend a lot of money helping people who can't pay their bills. A LOT.
From where do you get your information? I have read what are called "Anti-Mormon" books, and to be honest I have a hard time reading them. They are either written by people who have never been inside a Mormon church, or disgruntled former members. The books written by non-Mormons are usually inaccurate and get easy to verify facts wrong. If they get the simple stuff wrong, how can I trust them to get the more esoteric stuff right? Or in other words, would you trust an American history book that talked about how Theodore Roosevelt helped the U.S.A. through the Great Depression and then ordered the H-bomb to be dropped on Tokyo in 1948? The books written by former members are worse because it seems like they try to twist and phrase everything in the darkest possible way. It is frustrating because you read it and think, "I know what you are talking about, and you are trying very hard to cast that in a very sinister light." The best example I can think of is to go to youtube and search for "Mary Poppins horror" where someone makes a Mary Poppins trailer to make it seem that the movie is actually closer to "the exorcist" than a children's musical.
I don't know anything about Scientology, so I won't pretend to be an expert and make sweeping generalities. By the way, if you didn't recognize any of the people that I referred to in my post, then you really don't know anything about the Mormon church, so stop pretending that you do.
I'm not saying that there are no unethical businesses, but I believe that most transactions are done in good faith. Maybe it is the field that I have chosen, but most business relationships that I encounter on a day-to-day basis are built on mutual trust and common goals. In fact, if I didn't trust my vendors, I wouldn't do business with them. Period. If I can't rely on the product that they sell me, it is of no use to me. If my company's customers didn't trust the product that we sell, we would go out of business really, really fast. (I work in health care, so people could literally die). If you need a widget to help you perform your core competency, then you make the mistake of buying the cheapest alternative only once. Once you get into big business then having disruptions becomes way too costly to not have vendors and customers that you trust. Even saying that, usually when I run into problems I can more likely attribute the problem to incompetence rather than to malfeasance.
Obviously you have your Enrons, your Madoffs, and your Carbonites, but I think that the these cases are the exceptions rather than the rule.
For example, the president has the ability to declare war, doesn't he? After all, our presidents have been sending troops all over the world for decades without congressional approval. But that is wrong. Only congress has that power.
Sometimes it is hard for me to recognize when someone is being sarcastic. So, if you were being sarcastic, then I beg your forgiveness. But, the president does need permission from Congress to do anything with the armed forces. In the Democratic primaries, Hillary Clinton was saddled by the vote she made to allow Bush permission to send troops into Iraq, Kerry did too. Obama never made the vote because he wasn't in the Senate at the time. Do you remember 4 years ago, "I voted for it before I voted against it?" Yes, Congress hasn't officially declared war since 1942, but the War Powers Act sets out the legality of non-declared war military action.
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm curious about a few things:
1) Seems like there is pretty clear evidence for forgery and perjury. It seems like one of the defendant's employees notarized a forgery. Why isn't the D.A. involved?
2) I'm assuming that the defendant isn't just going to cut a check. What are his options? Can the plaintiff just show up one day at the office with a Bailiff, a court order and a moving van and start carting away 19,000 dollars worth of office equipment?
Please read the article. This not the "State of West Virginia" this is one county Assessor. Actually if you think about it, the West Virginia return on the investment of creating the map is probably ASTRONOMICAL. The map is created to generate tax revenue. The map's primary function is to tell the government how much to charge property owners for the privilege of owning property in the county. So don't I have the right to see what I pay in relationship to my neighbors, or the people on the other side of the tracks?
You mentioned in another thread that you wondered if you should be able to demand that information from the company for $20. Well, you have two options. 1) The company will give it to you for FREE or 2) you can buy the same map from the $20 from the state.
Plus, do you have time to drive down to the helpful, cheerful people down in the county courthouse to look up some maps during the day? They work for the government - they don't care how busy you are. Believe it or not, you can fire a corporation. The government can throw you in jail.
You then ramble on about India, looting of America, and the rights of citizens. Hey, I see a private company taking public sources of information, making them more accessible, cheaper, and combining them with other sources of information to make a better product. You see an excuse to go on some sort of rant.
THANKS! That name has been bugging me for months. It is rescue raiders. I hadn't heard of Armor Alley, although it looks very similar. Now to set up an emulator. . .
There was a game that I used to play on my Laser 128 (Apple IIc clone). I flew a helicopter, and was fighting against another helicopter as well as providing air support for my troops. The game would 2-D scroll side to side. I could drop 5 men from my helicopter paratrooper style, and there were floating balloons with cables. The helicopter had to "escort" tanks, antiaircraft trucks, "vans" and infantry
Did you ever stop to think why people without a TV tell you they don't have one? Have you ever told anyone about a good restaurant, or good movie, or a good website? Not having a TV attached to broadcast TV has been a huge plus in our life. And when I say "our" I mean my wife and our son. Yes, believe it or not, someone who reads Slashdot actually got married to a woman, and they actually had a child together.
In fact, not having a broadcast TV is for his benefit. He isn't constantly asking for all the toys that he sees advertised, (although he does like Legos and Thomas the Tank Engine) and will do other things then being glued to the TV. I mentioned it because if I haven't seen TV in a while I have a very hard time ignoring it.
As for the restaurant, they can't speak English. They make good and cheap soup though. I don't know why they needed to show CNN because before I turned it off, I looked, and NO ONE WAS WATCHING.
vandalism - Willful or malicious destruction of public or private property.
Pray tell, what did I destroy? The TV still functioned. They turned it back on just before we left. NOBODY noticed that it was off except my table for around 30 minutes. The place was packed and the 50 inch plasma was 15 feet directly in front of me. The workers can't speak English and were too busy to serve meals to turn off the TV.
Actually my current manager is the best manager that I have ever had. He gets technology and he gets people. He stands up for me, and is very understanding of personal situations. The coworker that wanted three of them is one of the most ethical people I know. It is a huge stretch of the imagination to say, "turn off tv" to "sabotage databases". I would never, ever mess with the data at my job. I work with the transmission of medical records. It is not an exaggeration to say people could die if I do that. Why kill someone's mom or son because I hate my job?
Yes, I have a projector hooked up to a DVD. It is on for two hours once maybe every three days. I do this because it would be way too easy for me to sit down and watch TV and waste my evening. My six year old would be watching ALL THE TIME. So I cut down on the amount he watches, and I have much more control over content. Instead of "American Idol" he and I build Legos, and he learned to read at a very early age and do math at a very early age. Not having broadcast TV in our home has been one of the best decisions that my wife and I have made. I don't know about you, but I like quiet. Quiet allows me to think. Quiet allows me to work. Quiet allows me to have conversations and relationships with people I care about. Why do you crave distractions?
It is saying that parents are self serving pieces of crap that will be unjust to get what they want.
Wow, are you 19 years old? Do you have kids? In the same comedy bit, Cosby said, "My wife and I used to be intellectuals." And then they had kids. I am not the world's best husband or father, but I do try my best.
I seriously do. We don't have a TV at home that is hooked up to an antenna or cable or Directv or whatever is out there. If we go to lunch and a TV is up, I will find myself distracted by the movement, and I hate extra noise. Just Thursday one of my coworkers and also my manager saw me turn off a plasma screen (that no one was watching) at a Vietnamese Pho place and now they both want three.
I have no problem turning off a non-watched CNN at lunch, but I wouldn't turn off a football game at a sports bar. That would be rude. But I don't understand the need to be constantly distracted by TVs. To quote Bill Cosby, "Parents don't want justice, they just want silence."
I guess instead of the Vulcan mind meld or that nerve pinch that Spock uses, he is just going to use his fingers to take the top half of the skulls of Aliens.
I'm sorry, I don't know if you are making a joke or not. I don't feel well today, so I am humor-impaired. You do realize that you are really quoting things out of context? The satyr and cockatrice references are quotes from the book of Isaiah, (unless you are stating that all Jews and Christians also believe in those too). Mormons don't believe in dragons. The quote is talking about a group of men who "like dragons did they fight". The "generic monster" that you talk about is in context,
"O how great the goodness of our God, who prepareth a way for our escape from the grasp of this awful monster; yea, that monster, death and hell, which I call the death of the body, and also the death of the spirit."
So the "monster" is death of the body and the separation of man from God. As for Cureloms and Cumoms, we don't know what they are, and I won't speculate. After all, they came to a place, found new stuff, and gave animals they had never seen before new names.
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That was FUNNY!!! Man, I never have mod points when I want to use them.
It does always bug me that the people who are so mistrustful that they refuse to accept that US astronauts did in fact land on the moon. One of them even harassed Buzz Aldrin to the point that Buzz (in his late 70s) dropped the guy with one punch to the face. CNN just had a front page article where they stated that around 25% of 18-25 year olds doubted the truth of the landing. That is utterly depressing, showing the current level of science education.
Honestly, I think the best argument is that the Soviets would definitely have called us out on not landing. They would have had the technology to disprove us, and don't tell me that they wouldn't have called us out.
Someday I hope that we as a species will go back.
There is lots of very useful information on the internet. Martial Arts weapons are a perfectly good example of finding high-quality, even admissable evidence. There is a Youtube series devoted for researching just such a topic. Feel free to search for "Ask a Ninja".
So it is not "legal" to listen to music on last.fm? Can I get sued by the RIAA if I listen to songs on last.fm? If it is "illegal" to have music on last.fm, then why doesn't the RIAA send a cease and desist to CBS/last.fm? If it is legal, then why would CBS release that information? Is it so that the RIAA can have a list of IPs with names to go after if they think someone is pirating music?
Well, actually that is what people in Latin America (spanish speakers) would call people from the United States. Estado unidense or United Staters. If someone from the USA would refer to themselves as an "Americano" then they would say, "well, I am an American too. A South American".
Short story - You have your facts unbelievably wrong.
Long story - It is amazing how you are able to attack with unsubstantiated claims and then claim victimhood at the same time. As a Mormon, I don't consider your post to be hate speech - just wholly uniformed and misleading. Hate speech (in my opinion) motivates others to do violence.
But I'm going to refute your claims with a question. Can you prove that the LDS leadership makes a lot of money from its membership? Thomas Monson still lives in the same scary East Salt Lake neighborhood that he lived where he grew up. He still lives in the same house that he and his wife raised their children in. Dieter Uchtdorf said that he essentially lives off his pension from Lufthansa. Hugh Nibley, with all of the books that he wrote, lived in the same "tiny" house just a few blocks south of BYU until he died at the age of 94. When church leaders travel, they usually stay with members of the church. Neal Maxwell stayed at my sister's house once. I know someone else that had Gordon Hinkley stay at their house. And a personal anecdote: a friend went to a training meeting at BYU with three apostles, Russel Nelson, Dallin Oaks, and David Haight. He said that after the meeting he had a question for Oaks, and went up to talk to him. He walked and spoke with the men on the way to the car. So Oaks answered his question, shook his hand and got into the drivers seat of his Ford Taurus, while the other two also got into the car and drove back to Salt Lake. So, in other words, the former professor of law at the University of Chicago and justice of the Utah Supreme court, a retired Cardiologist, and the former mayor of Palo Alto all car pooled in a Ford Taurus. So, if the Mormon hierarchy are getting rich, how are they spending it? Mansions? Fabulous automobiles?
The truth is that the LDS church builds a lot of church buildings and temples. The church also operates several universities. My job is to function as the "Ward Clerk". I see the money that goes in and out. We spend a lot of money helping people who can't pay their bills. A LOT.
From where do you get your information? I have read what are called "Anti-Mormon" books, and to be honest I have a hard time reading them. They are either written by people who have never been inside a Mormon church, or disgruntled former members. The books written by non-Mormons are usually inaccurate and get easy to verify facts wrong. If they get the simple stuff wrong, how can I trust them to get the more esoteric stuff right? Or in other words, would you trust an American history book that talked about how Theodore Roosevelt helped the U.S.A. through the Great Depression and then ordered the H-bomb to be dropped on Tokyo in 1948? The books written by former members are worse because it seems like they try to twist and phrase everything in the darkest possible way. It is frustrating because you read it and think, "I know what you are talking about, and you are trying very hard to cast that in a very sinister light." The best example I can think of is to go to youtube and search for "Mary Poppins horror" where someone makes a Mary Poppins trailer to make it seem that the movie is actually closer to "the exorcist" than a children's musical.
I don't know anything about Scientology, so I won't pretend to be an expert and make sweeping generalities. By the way, if you didn't recognize any of the people that I referred to in my post, then you really don't know anything about the Mormon church, so stop pretending that you do.
I'm not saying that there are no unethical businesses, but I believe that most transactions are done in good faith. Maybe it is the field that I have chosen, but most business relationships that I encounter on a day-to-day basis are built on mutual trust and common goals. In fact, if I didn't trust my vendors, I wouldn't do business with them. Period. If I can't rely on the product that they sell me, it is of no use to me. If my company's customers didn't trust the product that we sell, we would go out of business really, really fast. (I work in health care, so people could literally die). If you need a widget to help you perform your core competency, then you make the mistake of buying the cheapest alternative only once. Once you get into big business then having disruptions becomes way too costly to not have vendors and customers that you trust. Even saying that, usually when I run into problems I can more likely attribute the problem to incompetence rather than to malfeasance.
Obviously you have your Enrons, your Madoffs, and your Carbonites, but I think that the these cases are the exceptions rather than the rule.
Why is it that I never have mod points when I see a post this funny? Gosh that was hilarious.
Oh yes, they were lawyers, albeit providing advice pro bono.
In that case, I will defer to their expertise.
You're new here, aren't you?
Seems like there are plenty of acorns here.
For example, the president has the ability to declare war, doesn't he? After all, our presidents have been sending troops all over the world for decades without congressional approval. But that is wrong. Only congress has that power.
Sometimes it is hard for me to recognize when someone is being sarcastic. So, if you were being sarcastic, then I beg your forgiveness. But, the president does need permission from Congress to do anything with the armed forces. In the Democratic primaries, Hillary Clinton was saddled by the vote she made to allow Bush permission to send troops into Iraq, Kerry did too. Obama never made the vote because he wasn't in the Senate at the time. Do you remember 4 years ago, "I voted for it before I voted against it?" Yes, Congress hasn't officially declared war since 1942, but the War Powers Act sets out the legality of non-declared war military action.
Cause in the end, the money you take is equal to the money you make.
Oh thank you for the chuckle. I had one of those when I was a wee lad. Why don't I have mod points right now?
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm curious about a few things:
1) Seems like there is pretty clear evidence for forgery and perjury. It seems like one of the defendant's employees notarized a forgery. Why isn't the D.A. involved?
2) I'm assuming that the defendant isn't just going to cut a check. What are his options? Can the plaintiff just show up one day at the office with a Bailiff, a court order and a moving van and start carting away 19,000 dollars worth of office equipment?
Oh brother, where art thou?
Even a sith university.
What did they call the Football team? The Fighting Gundarks?
I thought the same thing! I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
Please read the article. This not the "State of West Virginia" this is one county Assessor. Actually if you think about it, the West Virginia return on the investment of creating the map is probably ASTRONOMICAL. The map is created to generate tax revenue. The map's primary function is to tell the government how much to charge property owners for the privilege of owning property in the county. So don't I have the right to see what I pay in relationship to my neighbors, or the people on the other side of the tracks?
You mentioned in another thread that you wondered if you should be able to demand that information from the company for $20. Well, you have two options. 1) The company will give it to you for FREE or 2) you can buy the same map from the $20 from the state.
Plus, do you have time to drive down to the helpful, cheerful people down in the county courthouse to look up some maps during the day? They work for the government - they don't care how busy you are. Believe it or not, you can fire a corporation. The government can throw you in jail.
You then ramble on about India, looting of America, and the rights of citizens. Hey, I see a private company taking public sources of information, making them more accessible, cheaper, and combining them with other sources of information to make a better product. You see an excuse to go on some sort of rant.
THANKS! That name has been bugging me for months. It is rescue raiders. I hadn't heard of Armor Alley, although it looks very similar. Now to set up an emulator. . .
There was a game that I used to play on my Laser 128 (Apple IIc clone). I flew a helicopter, and was fighting against another helicopter as well as providing air support for my troops. The game would 2-D scroll side to side. I could drop 5 men from my helicopter paratrooper style, and there were floating balloons with cables. The helicopter had to "escort" tanks, antiaircraft trucks, "vans" and infantry
Did you ever stop to think why people without a TV tell you they don't have one? Have you ever told anyone about a good restaurant, or good movie, or a good website? Not having a TV attached to broadcast TV has been a huge plus in our life. And when I say "our" I mean my wife and our son. Yes, believe it or not, someone who reads Slashdot actually got married to a woman, and they actually had a child together.
In fact, not having a broadcast TV is for his benefit. He isn't constantly asking for all the toys that he sees advertised, (although he does like Legos and Thomas the Tank Engine) and will do other things then being glued to the TV. I mentioned it because if I haven't seen TV in a while I have a very hard time ignoring it.
As for the restaurant, they can't speak English. They make good and cheap soup though. I don't know why they needed to show CNN because before I turned it off, I looked, and NO ONE WAS WATCHING.
vandalism - Willful or malicious destruction of public or private property.
Pray tell, what did I destroy? The TV still functioned. They turned it back on just before we left. NOBODY noticed that it was off except my table for around 30 minutes. The place was packed and the 50 inch plasma was 15 feet directly in front of me. The workers can't speak English and were too busy to serve meals to turn off the TV.
Actually my current manager is the best manager that I have ever had. He gets technology and he gets people. He stands up for me, and is very understanding of personal situations. The coworker that wanted three of them is one of the most ethical people I know. It is a huge stretch of the imagination to say, "turn off tv" to "sabotage databases". I would never, ever mess with the data at my job. I work with the transmission of medical records. It is not an exaggeration to say people could die if I do that. Why kill someone's mom or son because I hate my job?
Yes, I have a projector hooked up to a DVD. It is on for two hours once maybe every three days. I do this because it would be way too easy for me to sit down and watch TV and waste my evening. My six year old would be watching ALL THE TIME. So I cut down on the amount he watches, and I have much more control over content. Instead of "American Idol" he and I build Legos, and he learned to read at a very early age and do math at a very early age. Not having broadcast TV in our home has been one of the best decisions that my wife and I have made. I don't know about you, but I like quiet. Quiet allows me to think. Quiet allows me to work. Quiet allows me to have conversations and relationships with people I care about. Why do you crave distractions?
It is saying that parents are self serving pieces of crap that will be unjust to get what they want.
Wow, are you 19 years old? Do you have kids? In the same comedy bit, Cosby said, "My wife and I used to be intellectuals." And then they had kids. I am not the world's best husband or father, but I do try my best.
I seriously do. We don't have a TV at home that is hooked up to an antenna or cable or Directv or whatever is out there. If we go to lunch and a TV is up, I will find myself distracted by the movement, and I hate extra noise. Just Thursday one of my coworkers and also my manager saw me turn off a plasma screen (that no one was watching) at a Vietnamese Pho place and now they both want three.
I have no problem turning off a non-watched CNN at lunch, but I wouldn't turn off a football game at a sports bar. That would be rude. But I don't understand the need to be constantly distracted by TVs. To quote Bill Cosby, "Parents don't want justice, they just want silence."
I guess instead of the Vulcan mind meld or that nerve pinch that Spock uses, he is just going to use his fingers to take the top half of the skulls of Aliens.
I'm sorry, I don't know if you are making a joke or not. I don't feel well today, so I am humor-impaired. You do realize that you are really quoting things out of context? The satyr and cockatrice references are quotes from the book of Isaiah, (unless you are stating that all Jews and Christians also believe in those too). Mormons don't believe in dragons. The quote is talking about a group of men who "like dragons did they fight". The "generic monster" that you talk about is in context,
"O how great the goodness of our God, who prepareth a way for our escape from the grasp of this awful monster; yea, that monster, death and hell, which I call the death of the body, and also the death of the spirit."
So the "monster" is death of the body and the separation of man from God. As for Cureloms and Cumoms, we don't know what they are, and I won't speculate. After all, they came to a place, found new stuff, and gave animals they had never seen before new names.