Average cost to fight a bullshit patent is $2M. You honestly think that IBM is gonna fight for every little project on SourceForge? Wait, maybe we can setup a PayPal account....
Did read the patent and it still hasn't crossed over the hurdle that what they describe is so innovative or advances the state-of-the-art that it deserves a patent. My iRiver has three buttons that depending on how long you hold them down or how many times you press them makes my MP3 player do different things. That you can advance that concept to a datebook or recording software on a PDA isn't pushing the envelope. Period. EOF *click*
Let's see... Two motions to compell and now this. So over the course of a year we have had this happen a total of three times. Or, since this has been an issue since December last year, I'd say we've gotten it on average every two months.
Speaking of which. Did anybody else blurt out "Count Dookie?" in the theater? Back in my D&D hey-days I came up with some rather stupid names for characters but DooKu has to take the cake. Even Jar-Jar is better.
What a junk argument. What does the RIAA have to do with watching a single commercial to have 1 day's worth of access to a news web site? I open the commercial, go to another tab, ignore the commercial and after a minute switch back and click to continue to the story and every other story I want to read for the rest of the day. No worse than the crap I get here on/. Huge difference between what Salon is doing and how the RIAA wants to gouge me $2 to get a song off the Internet.
The parent has a point and, since my sarcasm detector hasn't gone off, come back when you have a useful rebuttal.
I examined FFII's top ten list of patents for a web site and followed all the links for the applicable patents. Over half were owned by US companies and once you added in the Japanese patents the EU firms had a pitance. Honestly, I don't expect this pattern to change.
How about we do what we're already doing and work on both? Oh and add in more work on lead free electronics, etc., etc.. Then we can derive a variety of benefits instead of just one.
Strangely, humans can be grouped to work on these tasks simultaneously. Overlook some minor/major faults and we are rather miraculous.
There is a universe of difference between one rouge psycho beating someone to death with a mass produced hammer versus some idiot who modifies the common cold into Captain Trips. I shoot the psycho and the hammer is a tool again. He's maybe killed a dozen people. I shoot the dictator and the pathogen is carried by who knows how many people and still spreading. Millions die.
On August 7 2002, after many communications, Robert Barr (Cisco's lawyer) firmly informed the OpenBSD community that Cisco would defend its patents for VRRP implementations....
You also need to reread that comment you linked to as it doesn't say what you are implying. Quote:
In Cisco's assessment, the VRRP proposal does not represent any significantly different functionality from that available with HSRP....
However, now that the draft-li-hsrp-01.txt' submission is approaching expiration and the Working Group is continuing with the VRRP proposal, Cisco Systems reserves the right to protect its intellectual property.
Patents were put in place for the good of society. I have just as much right to have an opinion on them as any CEO or lawyer.
After talking to the likes of Radia Perlman (who is extremely cool fwiw) I have extreme reservations that business model aka software patents do any good for society at all. I wonder where the state of networking would be now if spanning-tree had been patented and we had to wait 17 years before anybody was willing to implement it. I wonder where we could be if a mind like Ms. Perlman's could work on certain areas which really interest her (PKI for one iirc) except it isn't worth walking through a minefield of worthless patents. If HTTP had been patented do we you think we'd be using it or would we be using Gopher? Huh. Cisco has patents related to VRRP so the OpenBSD team develops an alternative and improves on the concept by adding in cryptography and increasing reliability.
And just remember this. For all the success stories you talk about - if it harms society, if it inhibits the arts and sciences - what the government gives it can taketh away. The Wright brothers didn't get to keep their patents.
The good news is it will be American companies who will hold the majority of the patents. A situation currently in place with currently filed but atm unenforceable patents. So a good protion of those licensing fees will come back to the States. It must feel good knowing the EU has sold out to American Big Business.
Why? What possible reason do you need all 20Gigs in less than a second? All you need right then, right now is the menuing system and beginning of the chapter vob files to get you going. The issue isn't getting you the entire file it's getting you a usable section of the file in a reasonable amount of time. And if all you're doing is downloading it for later in the day then it can be a background process.
And what life or death situation is making a two second wait for an application intolerable? For crying out loud, it's nice to have broadband and 3Ghz PCs at one's fingertips but honestly it wasn't all that bad back when all I had was a 19K dial-up connection on a 486. Start up the 'puter and go get a cup of coffee. Big download? Geting all the new messages off of C.O.L.A for the day? Sit by my wife and watch a sitcom or just talk.
In any event, the real issue is proper bandwidth management and queuing the data so that everyone gets the responsiveness they need. You just don't need 20 Gig in less than a second if all you're doing is watching a HD movie.
Ok, I'll volunteer to prove you wrong.:) Here is a case which uses a heatpipe to replace the fan on a EPIA M motherboard. Honestly though, if I wasn't tracking the mini|nano-itx stuff I wouldn't have known.
As long as they're not going to mess up Cthulhu's summer home let 'em go get some exercise and snap some pics. But who am I to say anything? The kid in me is still rooting for the possibility of someone getting a real photo of Nessie.
Where I live providing the basic needs for a family of 4 is $47K. Oh and basic needs don't include entertainment or Internet access.
Renting sucks. It is the biggest investment trap I've ever fallen into. Every year you pay more and more money for something that provides no return for your financial future. I put in double for a mortage what I used to put into rent and, believe it or not, I come out ahead dollar for dollar. And when we both retire, you'll be paying $7000/month for rent while I will have a fully paid up home and only have to worry about property taxes which I get to write off.
And btw, can you afford healthcare on $1000/month? The second you faced a co-pay I think you'd be sunk. Same goes with a deductable for your car insurance. Let's face it, there is no way you are pricing yourself to compete with outsourcing by taking a draconian paycut.
What a completely splendid troll. You totally ignore the issue the article brings up, take a comment made by the editor and spin it into something it's not and then you link to an article that brings up an age old controversy which is still not pertinent to the discussion at hand. Oh and the "What org has linux and Win admins?" was a nice touch.
For the reading impaired, the point of contention in the article is this "They claimed making Linux a friend of Joe User will require it to 'open itself up' and become more susceptible to attack." The second monstroyer focused on the admin angle he went off-topic.
Oh and the CLI isn't user-friendly for Joe User because the focus with him is the steepness of the learning curve. Joe User just needs to click an icon or menu option and get basic and sometimes power functionality. The question is do we allow Joe User the ability to click on executable content and have it just run or how do we represent a task as potentially dangerous and provide the appropriate information so Joe can determine if he wants to continue on. He isn't interested in awk '{ print $1 }' logfile | sort | uniq and doesn't want to invest the time to learn the various switches of any particuliar command.
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Average cost to fight a bullshit patent is $2M. You honestly think that IBM is gonna fight for every little project on SourceForge? Wait, maybe we can setup a PayPal account....
Did read the patent and it still hasn't crossed over the hurdle that what they describe is so innovative or advances the state-of-the-art that it deserves a patent. My iRiver has three buttons that depending on how long you hold them down or how many times you press them makes my MP3 player do different things. That you can advance that concept to a datebook or recording software on a PDA isn't pushing the envelope. Period. EOF *click*
There are no words....
You've obviously constipated yourself.
Do not taunt giant Fresnel lens.
Let's see... Two motions to compell and now this. So over the course of a year we have had this happen a total of three times. Or, since this has been an issue since December last year, I'd say we've gotten it on average every two months.
That no matter what the activity, no matter what the field, it is always easy to be an armchair QB.
Speaking of which. Did anybody else blurt out "Count Dookie?" in the theater? Back in my D&D hey-days I came up with some rather stupid names for characters but DooKu has to take the cake. Even Jar-Jar is better.
The parent has a point and, since my sarcasm detector hasn't gone off, come back when you have a useful rebuttal.
I examined FFII's top ten list of patents for a web site and followed all the links for the applicable patents. Over half were owned by US companies and once you added in the Japanese patents the EU firms had a pitance. Honestly, I don't expect this pattern to change.
and this is the best we get?? All right I admit to being a little let down.
My faux pau.
Strangely, humans can be grouped to work on these tasks simultaneously. Overlook some minor/major faults and we are rather miraculous.
There is a universe of difference between one rouge psycho beating someone to death with a mass produced hammer versus some idiot who modifies the common cold into Captain Trips. I shoot the psycho and the hammer is a tool again. He's maybe killed a dozen people. I shoot the dictator and the pathogen is carried by who knows how many people and still spreading. Millions die.
You also need to reread that comment you linked to as it doesn't say what you are implying. Quote:
After talking to the likes of Radia Perlman (who is extremely cool fwiw) I have extreme reservations that business model aka software patents do any good for society at all. I wonder where the state of networking would be now if spanning-tree had been patented and we had to wait 17 years before anybody was willing to implement it. I wonder where we could be if a mind like Ms. Perlman's could work on certain areas which really interest her (PKI for one iirc) except it isn't worth walking through a minefield of worthless patents. If HTTP had been patented do we you think we'd be using it or would we be using Gopher? Huh. Cisco has patents related to VRRP so the OpenBSD team develops an alternative and improves on the concept by adding in cryptography and increasing reliability.
And just remember this. For all the success stories you talk about - if it harms society, if it inhibits the arts and sciences - what the government gives it can taketh away. The Wright brothers didn't get to keep their patents.
fwiw, the answer you seek is in a quote at the end.
The good news is it will be American companies who will hold the majority of the patents. A situation currently in place with currently filed but atm unenforceable patents. So a good protion of those licensing fees will come back to the States. It must feel good knowing the EU has sold out to American Big Business.
What if the straw was flexible? Couldn't you just wind it inside the bucket and then draw the water?
And what life or death situation is making a two second wait for an application intolerable? For crying out loud, it's nice to have broadband and 3Ghz PCs at one's fingertips but honestly it wasn't all that bad back when all I had was a 19K dial-up connection on a 486. Start up the 'puter and go get a cup of coffee. Big download? Geting all the new messages off of C.O.L.A for the day? Sit by my wife and watch a sitcom or just talk.
In any event, the real issue is proper bandwidth management and queuing the data so that everyone gets the responsiveness they need. You just don't need 20 Gig in less than a second if all you're doing is watching a HD movie.
Ok, I'll volunteer to prove you wrong. :)
Here is a case which uses a heatpipe to replace the fan on a EPIA M motherboard. Honestly though, if I wasn't tracking the mini|nano-itx stuff I wouldn't have known.
As long as they're not going to mess up Cthulhu's summer home let 'em go get some exercise and snap some pics. But who am I to say anything? The kid in me is still rooting for the possibility of someone getting a real photo of Nessie.
Renting sucks. It is the biggest investment trap I've ever fallen into. Every year you pay more and more money for something that provides no return for your financial future. I put in double for a mortage what I used to put into rent and, believe it or not, I come out ahead dollar for dollar. And when we both retire, you'll be paying $7000/month for rent while I will have a fully paid up home and only have to worry about property taxes which I get to write off.
And btw, can you afford healthcare on $1000/month? The second you faced a co-pay I think you'd be sunk. Same goes with a deductable for your car insurance. Let's face it, there is no way you are pricing yourself to compete with outsourcing by taking a draconian paycut.
Thanks for that Clippy comment. Now I'm thinking "Oh so not only can he do TRON but he can also do Puppetry of the Penis as well...." Owwww.
For the reading impaired, the point of contention in the article is this "They claimed making Linux a friend of Joe User will require it to 'open itself up' and become more susceptible to attack." The second monstroyer focused on the admin angle he went off-topic.
Oh and the CLI isn't user-friendly for Joe User because the focus with him is the steepness of the learning curve. Joe User just needs to click an icon or menu option and get basic and sometimes power functionality. The question is do we allow Joe User the ability to click on executable content and have it just run or how do we represent a task as potentially dangerous and provide the appropriate information so Joe can determine if he wants to continue on. He isn't interested in awk '{ print $1 }' logfile | sort | uniq and doesn't want to invest the time to learn the various switches of any particuliar command.