The "Deep Space Network" is used to communicate with the rovers. This network consists of 3 locations; one near Goldstone California, one near Canberra Australia, and one near Madrid Spain. Which is used of course depends on which side of the earth is currently facing Mars.
But of course the point is completely correct. Captain midnight would need to build one gigantic antenna. And then figure out how to point it accurately and compensate for the doppler shifts due to the motions of both earth and Mars. And then figure out the protocal used. And probably a few other giant hurdles.
Having worked on three missions in the past (though not any Mars missions), here are some random thoughts. The communications done via voice are fairly routine (unless something has gone wrong). The polling is always arranged to happen during a quiet spot, so there is plenty of time to get it done, and clear procedures if someone has the audacity to say "no go";)
Since it is routine, you can casually half listen to the comm, waiting for your call sign, and in the mean time concentrate on doing "real work" uninterrupted. Having to sit there constantly reading IM messages, waiting for yours, would in my opinion be a serious distraction. And as others have mentioned, most people can talk far faster than they can type.
Printed procedures? An easy to keep, and easy to access archival log. Easy to mark up, and for the artistically inclined, frequently acquire lots of extra decoration. I will admit that at times during a mission, I felt like I was drowning in paper. Certainly some of it could be done online. But I suspect that I am like a lot of people, and like to print out long documents to read them, rather than reading them on a computer screen.
Sheesh... so you are going to condemn NASA based on a blurb on Slashdot? I don't suppose that you considered the possibility that the blurb is inaccurate or leaves out some critical details?
I found the lnguage in the very first sentence in the DMNews article to be refreshingly honest. It refers to California's anti-spam bill versus federal spam legislation. It looks to me like they are acknowledging that the purpose of the federal legislation is to promote spam.
Umm, the "Deep Space Antenna" is located here on earth. Actually there are three of them; one in Goldstone California, one in Canberra Australia, and one somewhere in Spain. To receive weaker signals, make the antennas bigger. That was done previously when NASA realized that the spacecraft were working so well, that they wanted more sensitivity to get more data from the Saturn encounter. Those many spectacular Saturn pictures we received were partially a result of a crash program to upgrade the antennas to make them bigger, along with the addition of newly developed low noise maser (hopefully that is spelled right) receivers.
Having travelled to India about 20 years ago, that kind of thing remains a strong memory. Coming from the US where we throw away all kinds of things without a second thought, I noticed that a scrap of paper with some empty space on it wasn't thrown away, but reused. And when someone lit a match for their own cigarette, cigarettes appeared from everywhere and that one match would result in maybe 20 lit cigarettes.
I'll definitely have to agree with the reviewers comments about Bruce Campbell's style for question and answer sessions. He showed up for a screening of Army of Darkness that I attended, and answered quite a few audience questions. He was very entertaining and witty, and did not think any questions were too dumb to answer. When a fan asked a question about a particular stunt he had performed in a previous movie, he provided an imprompto demonstration right on the stage, to everyone's delight (and being a wood stage, it must have hurt a bit). A very nice guy, who didn't seem to have let fame go to his head.
I couldn't help but notice the quote from John Weglian, chief of the special units division of the prosecutor's office, when explaing why he is coming down so hard on modem uncappers. Cyber crime is potentially very damaging to society. We are taking a firm position on that type of criminal activity.
Uh, yea. I guess that is why they are putting virtually no effort into stopping the blatantly criminal spam and viruses that are spewed out every day by the millions. Besides, law enforcement is so busy protecting companies... err I mean society... from uncappers.
Oh well, the humor was intended to be sardonic. Some people like sardonic humor (I thought the linked page was hilarious) and some don't. I guess that is the same thing as some people liking Monty Python, and some not.
You're missing the fact that every single one of the blacklists also hit colateral damage targets...
...which is not a fact; sounds like someone with a grudge. I suspect the biggest public blocklist out there is Spamhaus, which has gotten to where it is in part because it does not engage in those tactics. And despite spammers attempts to DDOS it out of existance, it appears to have the resources to withstand the attacks.
Well, there is a station up there. The problem is that the shuttle would have to be in roughly the same orbit as the station. It does not carry enough fuel to make large orbit changes.
As was pointed out elsewhere, you simply look at the film and attempt to measure how far the object moved in the last two frames before impact. Then divide by the time between frames. Gives a pretty good ballpark figure.>/P>
Generally blocking is done by IP address, not email address. So when the OP receives a spam addressed to blockme, I assume his software adds the source IP address the email came from to his blocklist. So you are not blocked.
SETI is looking for extremely narrow band signals, simply because we really don't have the technology to detect anything else at astronomical distances. An extremely narrow band signal is really only good for one thing; a beacon that simply runs all the time.
That would be akin to the entire Earth, with all transmissions from it, including all Tv/Radio/Cellular/Military/Naval/Commercial Comms/3D Holographic Programming (this is the Aliens transmitting, remember) switch off and take a 10 minute break at the same time. Ain't gonna happen.
Most of those signals, probably including 3D Holographic are wideband signals. SETI is simply incapable of detecting wideband signals.
The accuracy of hitting a landing has never been very good. Even the Russian landing yesterday missed the landing point by 400KM, and the Russians have been doing this for a long time. Since our space capsules would not have survived very well hitting land, they always made sure the landing point was a long way away from any land.
Ah, nice troll;) Of course, you can always find "parallels" between any two things. Parallels by themselves are completely meaningless.
Yes, slashdotting can be a problem for those hit by it. But it is a onetime hit for a few people, and is soon forgotten. Slashdotting is more like a spectacular train wreck than spam.
Spam on the other hand is unrelenting. It effects everyone, and continues day after day forever. Even if someone is filtering, or is having filtering done for them, you are still ultimately paying for the effort of setting up and maintaining the filters.
I think Wine is used widely enough that it would be reasonable to expect someone at Redhat to test Wine against the new releases, and submit patches to Wine, prior to the new Redhat release.
I think that the 'victims' here are the rest of us. I could care less about the people that lost their money. But in the last few months, the amount of 419 spam I get has simply exploded, to the point where it now makes up a noticeable portion of my spam load. And the reason is of course that the scammers have found that the 419 stuff pays.
As a user, I don't want to have to "field upgrade" my stereo, television, camera, portable music player, car, or other device, I want them to work exactly as advertised; if they don't work as advertised, it should be the vendor's responsibility to fix them, at his cost.
Ah, you mean like the way software vendors handle their products.
I think there are two problems here. One is that hardware has become vastly more complex, just like software, so that it is virtually impossible to test for every possible bug. And the second is the rapid development and change of standards. Are you happy buying a new toy everytime something new (like a new, better movie format) comes out? Why not zap your old player with hardware support for the new format?
And from the article The company argument (COO level so far, CEO is next) is that the company instituted this policy over a year ago for all existing employees and new hires,...
So the level on the food chain has nothing to do with it.
...since we would be more likely to be able to answer them.
Hmm.. answer them? If they are a hundred light years away, then it has taken a hundred years for their signal to reach us, and another hundred years for our signal to reach them. Conversation is going to be rather difficult. Hopefully their attention span is a bit better than the typical American.
And we have probably done a reasonable job of scanning nearby systems (within a couple hundred light years), so ET is likely to be much further away, making the problem much bigger.
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Just like people of set up their mail servers to bounce any email containing the word "viagra", the potential for false positives is too high.
Huh? Well, the potential for false negatives might be too high. I find it much more effective to filter on v[ii1l][a@]gr[a@]
The "Deep Space Network" is used to communicate with the rovers. This network consists of 3 locations; one near Goldstone California, one near Canberra Australia, and one near Madrid Spain. Which is used of course depends on which side of the earth is currently facing Mars.
But of course the point is completely correct. Captain midnight would need to build one gigantic antenna. And then figure out how to point it accurately and compensate for the doppler shifts due to the motions of both earth and Mars. And then figure out the protocal used. And probably a few other giant hurdles.
Having worked on three missions in the past (though not any Mars missions), here are some random thoughts. The communications done via voice are fairly routine (unless something has gone wrong). The polling is always arranged to happen during a quiet spot, so there is plenty of time to get it done, and clear procedures if someone has the audacity to say "no go" ;)
Since it is routine, you can casually half listen to the comm, waiting for your call sign, and in the mean time concentrate on doing "real work" uninterrupted. Having to sit there constantly reading IM messages, waiting for yours, would in my opinion be a serious distraction. And as others have mentioned, most people can talk far faster than they can type.
Printed procedures? An easy to keep, and easy to access archival log. Easy to mark up, and for the artistically inclined, frequently acquire lots of extra decoration. I will admit that at times during a mission, I felt like I was drowning in paper. Certainly some of it could be done online. But I suspect that I am like a lot of people, and like to print out long documents to read them, rather than reading them on a computer screen.
Sheesh... so you are going to condemn NASA based on a blurb on Slashdot? I don't suppose that you considered the possibility that the blurb is inaccurate or leaves out some critical details?
To be fair, it should be pointed out that Moz 1.4.1 is rather old. More recent versions do have the option.
I found the lnguage in the very first sentence in the DMNews article to be refreshingly honest. It refers to California's anti-spam bill versus federal spam legislation. It looks to me like they are acknowledging that the purpose of the federal legislation is to promote spam.
Umm, the "Deep Space Antenna" is located here on earth. Actually there are three of them; one in Goldstone California, one in Canberra Australia, and one somewhere in Spain. To receive weaker signals, make the antennas bigger. That was done previously when NASA realized that the spacecraft were working so well, that they wanted more sensitivity to get more data from the Saturn encounter. Those many spectacular Saturn pictures we received were partially a result of a crash program to upgrade the antennas to make them bigger, along with the addition of newly developed low noise maser (hopefully that is spelled right) receivers.
Having travelled to India about 20 years ago, that kind of thing remains a strong memory. Coming from the US where we throw away all kinds of things without a second thought, I noticed that a scrap of paper with some empty space on it wasn't thrown away, but reused. And when someone lit a match for their own cigarette, cigarettes appeared from everywhere and that one match would result in maybe 20 lit cigarettes.
I'll definitely have to agree with the reviewers comments about Bruce Campbell's style for question and answer sessions. He showed up for a screening of Army of Darkness that I attended, and answered quite a few audience questions. He was very entertaining and witty, and did not think any questions were too dumb to answer. When a fan asked a question about a particular stunt he had performed in a previous movie, he provided an imprompto demonstration right on the stage, to everyone's delight (and being a wood stage, it must have hurt a bit). A very nice guy, who didn't seem to have let fame go to his head.
I couldn't help but notice the quote from John Weglian, chief of the special units division of the prosecutor's office, when explaing why he is coming down so hard on modem uncappers. Cyber crime is potentially very damaging to society. We are taking a firm position on that type of criminal activity.
Uh, yea. I guess that is why they are putting virtually no effort into stopping the blatantly criminal spam and viruses that are spewed out every day by the millions. Besides, law enforcement is so busy protecting companies... err I mean society... from uncappers.
Oh well, the humor was intended to be sardonic. Some people like sardonic humor (I thought the linked page was hilarious) and some don't. I guess that is the same thing as some people liking Monty Python, and some not.
You're missing the fact that every single one of the blacklists also hit colateral damage targets...
...which is not a fact; sounds like someone with a grudge. I suspect the biggest public blocklist out there is Spamhaus, which has gotten to where it is in part because it does not engage in those tactics. And despite spammers attempts to DDOS it out of existance, it appears to have the resources to withstand the attacks.
The Wine web site has some links for running AutoCad in Wine
Well, there is a station up there. The problem is that the shuttle would have to be in roughly the same orbit as the station. It does not carry enough fuel to make large orbit changes.
As was pointed out elsewhere, you simply look at the film and attempt to measure how far the object moved in the last two frames before impact. Then divide by the time between frames. Gives a pretty good ballpark figure.>/P>
Generally blocking is done by IP address, not email address. So when the OP receives a spam addressed to blockme, I assume his software adds the source IP address the email came from to his blocklist. So you are not blocked.
SETI is looking for extremely narrow band signals, simply because we really don't have the technology to detect anything else at astronomical distances. An extremely narrow band signal is really only good for one thing; a beacon that simply runs all the time.
That would be akin to the entire Earth, with all transmissions from it, including all Tv/Radio/Cellular/Military/Naval/Commercial Comms/3D Holographic Programming (this is the Aliens transmitting, remember) switch off and take a 10 minute break at the same time. Ain't gonna happen.Most of those signals, probably including 3D Holographic are wideband signals. SETI is simply incapable of detecting wideband signals.
The accuracy of hitting a landing has never been very good. Even the Russian landing yesterday missed the landing point by 400KM, and the Russians have been doing this for a long time. Since our space capsules would not have survived very well hitting land, they always made sure the landing point was a long way away from any land.
Really 366.26 (I'll take your word for the .06 part). Think about and it will come to you where that extra day comes from :-)
Ah, nice troll ;) Of course, you can always find "parallels" between any two things. Parallels by themselves are completely meaningless.
Yes, slashdotting can be a problem for those hit by it. But it is a onetime hit for a few people, and is soon forgotten. Slashdotting is more like a spectacular train wreck than spam.
Spam on the other hand is unrelenting. It effects everyone, and continues day after day forever. Even if someone is filtering, or is having filtering done for them, you are still ultimately paying for the effort of setting up and maintaining the filters.
I think Wine is used widely enough that it would be reasonable to expect someone at Redhat to test Wine against the new releases, and submit patches to Wine, prior to the new Redhat release.
I think that the 'victims' here are the rest of us. I could care less about the people that lost their money. But in the last few months, the amount of 419 spam I get has simply exploded, to the point where it now makes up a noticeable portion of my spam load. And the reason is of course that the scammers have found that the 419 stuff pays.
As a user, I don't want to have to "field upgrade" my stereo, television, camera, portable music player, car, or other device, I want them to work exactly as advertised; if they don't work as advertised, it should be the vendor's responsibility to fix them, at his cost.
Ah, you mean like the way software vendors handle their products.
I think there are two problems here. One is that hardware has become vastly more complex, just like software, so that it is virtually impossible to test for every possible bug. And the second is the rapid development and change of standards. Are you happy buying a new toy everytime something new (like a new, better movie format) comes out? Why not zap your old player with hardware support for the new format?
And from the article The company argument (COO level so far, CEO is next) is that the company instituted this policy over a year ago for all existing employees and new hires, ...
So the level on the food chain has nothing to do with it.
Hmm.. answer them? If they are a hundred light years away, then it has taken a hundred years for their signal to reach us, and another hundred years for our signal to reach them. Conversation is going to be rather difficult. Hopefully their attention span is a bit better than the typical American.
And we have probably done a reasonable job of scanning nearby systems (within a couple hundred light years), so ET is likely to be much further away, making the problem much bigger.