I don't know what you guys are talking about. I have used a pismo since 2000, (which crashed all the time in OS9). A year or two later, I installed OS X, and never crashed again. Applications bite it now and again, but never the OS. No longer do I have to embarrassingly reach for the main power switch to bring the box back from the results of turkey software. I almost forget what that was like. This laptop is in constant use, never shut down, except to travel somewhere or update software that requires restarts. Why anybody would put themselves through the pain and utter misery of a using a horribly-designed and bug-riddled OS, is beyond me. Life is too damned short.
Let's give the credit and the blame where they belong, please. A couple points that most people don't realize about Carter: First, as for the double-digit inflation, Carter inherited a Federal Reserve Chairman APPOINTED BY FORD that was almost unanimously (as in both sides of the aisle) recognized as the worst Fed Chairman ever. That person's policies sent us straight down the hole, and his butt was OUT when Carter came to town. Carter appointed Paul Volcker, whose 12 year term took him straight through the Reagan years. Reagan was widely credited with reducing that double-digit inflation, but as most of us know, the Federal Reserve controls that, not the President. Paul Volcker, appointed by Carter, solved double digit inflation, and with near-zero help from the horrible, horrible Reagan administration.
Another point. People call carter weak on defense. What utter horse hockey. It was under Carter that Stealth was developed (and yes he leaked it, but history tells us the Russians knew anyway, and Carter probably knew that). It was Carter that started the Army's super-secret Delta Force (you know, SEAL-eaters), and their first mission was to rescue the hostages in 1980. It failed, but don't blame Carter for the mission details- he wasnt flying the chopper. Carter made sure we had a kick-ass group of clandestine warriors to go do the job. And why not? Carter was an officer in the US Navy, with an expertise in nuclear submarines. He was an engineer, and has been judged by many independent parties as having the highest IQ of any president in modern history. He SERVED, unlike some others that claim to know so much about how the military should operate. People talk about how much more Reagan spent to "bring our military back". LOL. Find an almanac, and look up defense spending per president since WWII. Very telling. Reagan got a LOT of play in the media bringing back WWII battleships.
Carter was a victim of the GOP media machine that many are just beginning to understand even today. Carter was blindsided by a millionaire that was expert in looking good on a screen. One of the many measures of a great president is what people, at home and abroad, think about him 20 or 30 years down the road. We have seen how people can be snowed on a day-to-day basis, but history has a way of getting the truth out. Can you just imagine what history will say about Bush.
I don't know what someone was smoking when they came up with this horrible idea. I am far from a technophope. I have been taking apart stuff since I was a toddler. I have changed car engines and transmissions. I do almost all of my own automotive repairs. I own and operate two internet hosting companies, and I operate and repair my own unix servers. I am a small plane pilot, and could find my way across the country, if I had the need. I do have a clue. However, these self-checkout lanes are absolutely horrible. I refuse to use them ever again. No two stores are alike, and every single time I have been conned into using it by giddy store personnel, I sorely regretted it. The final time, I watched people stream through the human checkout as store personnel attempted in vain to repair the latest problem with their equipment. Never again.
This does not even address the issue of SERVICE. These assholes install this lovely equipment, open 6 u-do-it lanes, and leave one human lane open, that doubles as the customer service desk. Imagine, you go to customer service to get a human, and you wait while somebody argues with the employee over a return. Good grief. Thats on top of making you sign up to belong to some club (database soon to be shared) to see the savings that stores used to be happy to offer simply to get you to come through the door. Don't get me started about walking to the far corner of the 50,000 sq ft building for a gallon of milk.
Fortunately, in my area of New Hampshire, there are Farmers' markets springing up everywhere. Fresh meats, veggies, breads- really, I eat better, and I dont feel like a number, or second class, or ostracized because I cant figure out some blooming idiot's idea of automation.
I think this is going to accelerate the undoing of this administration. This reminds me of the infamous "Saturday Night Massacre" by Nixon on Saturday evening, October 20, 1973, where Nixon was growing increasingly paranoid about how close special prosecutor Archibald Cox was getting to the truth, and fired Cox. Congress was livid, and in the days following, numerous articles of impeachment were introduced. We all know where this story ended. I think it's unfortunate that the lesson learned seems to be how to better avoid getting caught.
Frankly I am shocked this kind of thing came out of Framingham. I lived and worked in Framingham for more than 20 years. Eastern Massachusetts in general is not a place to pull this kind of intrusive crap, and the folks in Framingham are just as concerned about thier civil rights as any you will find, south of the New Hampshire line anyway.
Framingham is a big place. It has the distinction of being the largest municipality in the United States, that is still a town. Nearly 70,000 people, and they have no mayor or city council; they have selectmen and town meeting. They are like a puppy that grew big, and still thinks they're small. Framingham is home to TJ Max, Bose, Staples and a few more you've probably heard of. Any Framingham townie can give you a tour of the Knox Trail as it passes through Framingham, the trail over which Maj. General Henry Knox transported cannon from Fort Ticonderoga to Dorchester Heights to drive the British out of Boston. Sit along Edgell Road, late at night the night before Patriots Day, and you will see the reinactor marching to Concord (pronounced Konk-urd, dammit) to warn the Minutemen it was about to hit the fan.
No, I dont think the people of Framingham will put up with this. It just isn't in their blood.
Dont hold your breath for much to change with the DMCA. This was a radical change to copyright laws that have existed for an eon, and this was passed in the Senate on a VOICE VOTE. Those gutless Republicans and Democrats didnt even have the honor to show their constituents what their voting record on this issue was. If they cannot even fess up to it, how can you expect it to change in ANY administration? Money buys everybody, on both sides of the aisle.
I was like that not long ago. Seems like not long ago, anyway:) I was young and optimistic and full of energy when it came to getting my candidate elected. I chuckle at the amount of time I spent in futility, trying to convince Democrats and Republicans that they should consider other options.
Let me save you some time. WAKE UP. This country is hosed in so many ways, and the truth is that we have 2 options for leadership, and neither will be perfect. Yes, Kerry is unexciting, perhaps boring. I suppose if he were a food, he would be oatmeal. Eventually, however, you will realize that you can't have your steak, and that oatmeal beats sand and spit, anyday.
Believe me, I am not the most pro-Kerry left-winger out there, and I would much rather see Nader instead of Kerry. However, I am a realist, and I know as well as the rest of the world knows, that one of these two men will be president. So the question becomes, do I want a 1 on a scale of 10, or do I want a 5 on the scale of 10? I can't have a 10, so I am forced to pick the lesser of the two evils.
In 2000, I DID vote for Nader, because I lived in Massachusetts at the time, and it was a given that Massachusetts was going to Gore. I would likely do the same again if I still lived there. However, I live in New Hampshire now, a swing state, and it's clear that my vote for Nader would be a vote for Bush, and given the stakes, I simply cannot do that.
It certainly does seem like that. However, the crowd that runs this site, as well as the majority of readers, are a pretty bright bunch that generally takes time to think, and it's hardly surprising that the tendency is anti-Bush. I would disagree with the pro-Kerry statement, though. A lot of kerry supporters (myself included) are not so much FOR Kerry as we are AGAINST Bush. It's all about removing the unprecedented incompetence, not about electing a blue blood from Massachusetts.
Yesterday, walking home from the store, I noticed that my neighbor's political sign had been driven over. My neighbor is elderly, so I decided to fix the sign. What the sign said was irrelevant- I was irritated at the attempt to squash this man's first ammendment rights to his political free speech.
This was the type of sign that required a post to be pounded into the ground. The person that drove over it bent the small metal stake, so I returned shortly with some string and a large hammer to fix it. As I was finishing up this very quick work, a Toyota pickup stopped on the other side of the road. I thought it might be my neighbor asking what I was doing to his sign. The man very rudely and abruptly blurted out "what are you doing?". I explained that it appeared someone had run the sign over, and I was fixing it. He then told me it was in the "right of way" and said "take it down".
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I did have a hard time containing myself. At this point he whips out his business card, showing he is a town official. He told me that "local zoning" prevents anything placed in the public right of way (you know, that twelve feet of grass that the town/state owns on the side of the road). I told him that he was messing with First Amendment rights here, that political free speech was expecially protected by our courts, and that if the local Selectmen wanted to take on the First Amendment, then God bless 'em. I also pointed out that there are about 1000 signs in this stuck-up little village I live in, that are all, without exception, in the so-called "right of way", that I was only standing up a broken sign, not erecting it, yet none of this mattered to the town official.
It became plain to him fairly quickly that I was telling him to go pound sand, so he left in a huff, headed straight for the town offices like a crying kid running to mama. I decided to phone the town manager.
The town manager explained that "complaints were coming in" and that some of these signs were not "acceptable". The town manager told me it was in fact a state law, not local zoning, that was in play here. I told him that the Constitution was a federal deal that trumps whatever attempt a state might make to squash free political speech, and that in any event, he was not applying the law equally, as it was ONLY ME and the sign I was fixing that was getting their attention.
This is not over. There will be a selectmens meeting "after the election", according to the town manager, where the issue of "unwanted" and "illegal" signs will be brought up. I plan to be there, and I plan to point out that these are temporary signs, not unlike real estate broker signs, "sandwichboard" signs that advertise town happenings of all types, yard sale signs, etc. etc. etc. that are all, pretty much without exception, in this so-called "right of way" grass on the side of the road.
This is not supposed to happen in New Hampshire, where we live by the motto "Live Free of Die". It's even on our license plates. Now, I do live in a snobbby, affluent town, and I can appreciate that they want the town to be as quaint and as attractive as possible, but this incident completely crosses the line. My nest has been stirred, and the town officials will probably live to regret it, as I am now VERY much going to be paying attention to a lot of what they do.
In response to your obvious need to be informed: Congratulations for finding information on the one other instance in US history where the candidate with less electoral votes won. I fail to see the relevance. I am quite sure that if you were to ask the folks that want to monitor US elections, they would not count amoung their reasons for doing so, such issues as the electoral count vs popular vote inequity. It is a fact of the American political system that the possibility exists for a win without winning the popular vote. Really, the monitors are not stupid- they know this already. They are going to be interested in seeing us honor our OWN election rules, which as written, are quite fair. Problem is, these election rules (LAWS) are being ignored, which is often a felony. Just a guess, but I think the monitors are going to be far more interested in people being denied the right to vote, votes not counted, election rigging, and lets not forget the much-expected train-wreck that will be Florida with their dubious dabbling in electronic voting.
If the truth hurts, maybe it ought to. We gave a clear demonstration to the world in 2000 that we have no business monitoring other countries' elections. We have been the shining light of democracy in this world for a long time, and it has been terribly important all those years that we got it right, because how else would anyone ever follow our lead? If you ask me, I think the monitors are doing us a favor, attempting with all they've got to get us back on track. The world needs us back on track.
Oh man I thought I was almost alone on this one. I HATE that term. I watched a news story about blogs and they showed/. on TV. It made my skin crawl to hear folks call it a "blog".
We are headed for general warfare. The Republicans seem to think that we can spend spend spend and give away all our piggy bank and the sun will somehow still shine. Democrats are convinced that letting in waves of immigrants from the South will fund the Social Security system. What a mess. The fact is that the younger generation will not have enough to give, and the Me Generation (they call themselves 'boomers') will not be willing to give up anything they have been promised. It will come to a head when the younger generation finally is in power, like the Me Generation is now, and hard decisions are made about whom gets what. Generational Warfare.
I think you must be stoned, perhaps a cheerleader of the wildly-propagating Cheney-type secrecy that exists in government all of a sudden. Go ahead, shoot the messenger, but know you have it backwards- it is the promoters of the secrecy (like yourself) that need to be dealt with, not those that follow their job desriptions to the letter. How long do you suppose it will take government and all who work within it to be forthright, if the voters not only don't care, but actually DEFEND the wasteful behavior!
As "the boss" in my organization, I hire people to do a job, and I expect it done. Completely. If it's not, I NEED to know, and if I can't get information from one channel, I'll try another. I have seen too many situations in my career where a pile of people "in the trenches" burn out, lose direction and eventually quit because of an idiot, non-performing manager that nobody dared to speak against. Almost without exception, I have promoted those that are not afraid to challenge me when they think It's appropriate. A supervisor that wants yes men and an unchallenged day is an extremely poor manager indeed, and a sysadmin that is fired for doing his job as outlined in writing when he was hired would seem to me to have a strong legal case. Put ME on that jury.
Yes it is Queen's English. It's also HER Majesty's Ships (HMS Whatever) in the Royal Navy, and God save the QUEEN in the national anthem, because a Queen is presently in power. I'm just a Leftist New Hampshire Mac user, but what do I know.
I am totally against the war in Iraq, but I cant help but feel sorry for this guy and his pathetic meaningless stand. Dont let the screen door hit you on the way out.
I might have said the same thing before I took a little time to poke around the data center and talk to people. You might be surprised how many people are running Darwin without the OS X GUI.
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I don't know what you guys are talking about. I have used a pismo since 2000, (which crashed all the time in OS9). A year or two later, I installed OS X, and never crashed again. Applications bite it now and again, but never the OS. No longer do I have to embarrassingly reach for the main power switch to bring the box back from the results of turkey software. I almost forget what that was like. This laptop is in constant use, never shut down, except to travel somewhere or update software that requires restarts. Why anybody would put themselves through the pain and utter misery of a using a horribly-designed and bug-riddled OS, is beyond me. Life is too damned short.
Let's give the credit and the blame where they belong, please. A couple points that most people don't realize about Carter: First, as for the double-digit inflation, Carter inherited a Federal Reserve Chairman APPOINTED BY FORD that was almost unanimously (as in both sides of the aisle) recognized as the worst Fed Chairman ever. That person's policies sent us straight down the hole, and his butt was OUT when Carter came to town. Carter appointed Paul Volcker, whose 12 year term took him straight through the Reagan years. Reagan was widely credited with reducing that double-digit inflation, but as most of us know, the Federal Reserve controls that, not the President. Paul Volcker, appointed by Carter, solved double digit inflation, and with near-zero help from the horrible, horrible Reagan administration.
Another point. People call carter weak on defense. What utter horse hockey. It was under Carter that Stealth was developed (and yes he leaked it, but history tells us the Russians knew anyway, and Carter probably knew that). It was Carter that started the Army's super-secret Delta Force (you know, SEAL-eaters), and their first mission was to rescue the hostages in 1980. It failed, but don't blame Carter for the mission details- he wasnt flying the chopper. Carter made sure we had a kick-ass group of clandestine warriors to go do the job. And why not? Carter was an officer in the US Navy, with an expertise in nuclear submarines. He was an engineer, and has been judged by many independent parties as having the highest IQ of any president in modern history. He SERVED, unlike some others that claim to know so much about how the military should operate. People talk about how much more Reagan spent to "bring our military back". LOL. Find an almanac, and look up defense spending per president since WWII. Very telling. Reagan got a LOT of play in the media bringing back WWII battleships.
Carter was a victim of the GOP media machine that many are just beginning to understand even today. Carter was blindsided by a millionaire that was expert in looking good on a screen. One of the many measures of a great president is what people, at home and abroad, think about him 20 or 30 years down the road. We have seen how people can be snowed on a day-to-day basis, but history has a way of getting the truth out. Can you just imagine what history will say about Bush.
This story was rejected a couple days ago when I submitted it. Go ahead. Mod me down. LOL.
This does not even address the issue of SERVICE. These assholes install this lovely equipment, open 6 u-do-it lanes, and leave one human lane open, that doubles as the customer service desk. Imagine, you go to customer service to get a human, and you wait while somebody argues with the employee over a return. Good grief. Thats on top of making you sign up to belong to some club (database soon to be shared) to see the savings that stores used to be happy to offer simply to get you to come through the door. Don't get me started about walking to the far corner of the 50,000 sq ft building for a gallon of milk.
Fortunately, in my area of New Hampshire, there are Farmers' markets springing up everywhere. Fresh meats, veggies, breads- really, I eat better, and I dont feel like a number, or second class, or ostracized because I cant figure out some blooming idiot's idea of automation.
I think this is going to accelerate the undoing of this administration. This reminds me of the infamous "Saturday Night Massacre" by Nixon on Saturday evening, October 20, 1973, where Nixon was growing increasingly paranoid about how close special prosecutor Archibald Cox was getting to the truth, and fired Cox. Congress was livid, and in the days following, numerous articles of impeachment were introduced. We all know where this story ended. I think it's unfortunate that the lesson learned seems to be how to better avoid getting caught.
Framingham is a big place. It has the distinction of being the largest municipality in the United States, that is still a town. Nearly 70,000 people, and they have no mayor or city council; they have selectmen and town meeting. They are like a puppy that grew big, and still thinks they're small. Framingham is home to TJ Max, Bose, Staples and a few more you've probably heard of. Any Framingham townie can give you a tour of the Knox Trail as it passes through Framingham, the trail over which Maj. General Henry Knox transported cannon from Fort Ticonderoga to Dorchester Heights to drive the British out of Boston. Sit along Edgell Road, late at night the night before Patriots Day, and you will see the reinactor marching to Concord (pronounced Konk-urd, dammit) to warn the Minutemen it was about to hit the fan.
No, I dont think the people of Framingham will put up with this. It just isn't in their blood.
Is it my mind in the gutter as usual, or do the horns remind anyone else of a male dog in a very happy mood?
Dont hold your breath for much to change with the DMCA. This was a radical change to copyright laws that have existed for an eon, and this was passed in the Senate on a VOICE VOTE. Those gutless Republicans and Democrats didnt even have the honor to show their constituents what their voting record on this issue was. If they cannot even fess up to it, how can you expect it to change in ANY administration? Money buys everybody, on both sides of the aisle.
I was like that not long ago. Seems like not long ago, anyway :) I was young and optimistic and full of energy when it came to getting my candidate elected. I chuckle at the amount of time I spent in futility, trying to convince Democrats and Republicans that they should consider other options.
Let me save you some time. WAKE UP. This country is hosed in so many ways, and the truth is that we have 2 options for leadership, and neither will be perfect. Yes, Kerry is unexciting, perhaps boring. I suppose if he were a food, he would be oatmeal. Eventually, however, you will realize that you can't have your steak, and that oatmeal beats sand and spit, anyday.
Seems I opened up a can of worms here.
Believe me, I am not the most pro-Kerry left-winger out there, and I would much rather see Nader instead of Kerry. However, I am a realist, and I know as well as the rest of the world knows, that one of these two men will be president. So the question becomes, do I want a 1 on a scale of 10, or do I want a 5 on the scale of 10? I can't have a 10, so I am forced to pick the lesser of the two evils.
In 2000, I DID vote for Nader, because I lived in Massachusetts at the time, and it was a given that Massachusetts was going to Gore. I would likely do the same again if I still lived there. However, I live in New Hampshire now, a swing state, and it's clear that my vote for Nader would be a vote for Bush, and given the stakes, I simply cannot do that.
It certainly does seem like that. However, the crowd that runs this site, as well as the majority of readers, are a pretty bright bunch that generally takes time to think, and it's hardly surprising that the tendency is anti-Bush. I would disagree with the pro-Kerry statement, though. A lot of kerry supporters (myself included) are not so much FOR Kerry as we are AGAINST Bush. It's all about removing the unprecedented incompetence, not about electing a blue blood from Massachusetts.
That motto is "Live Free or Die". Thats what I get for not wearing glasses.
Yesterday, walking home from the store, I noticed that my neighbor's political sign had been driven over. My neighbor is elderly, so I decided to fix the sign. What the sign said was irrelevant- I was irritated at the attempt to squash this man's first ammendment rights to his political free speech.
This was the type of sign that required a post to be pounded into the ground. The person that drove over it bent the small metal stake, so I returned shortly with some string and a large hammer to fix it. As I was finishing up this very quick work, a Toyota pickup stopped on the other side of the road. I thought it might be my neighbor asking what I was doing to his sign. The man very rudely and abruptly blurted out "what are you doing?". I explained that it appeared someone had run the sign over, and I was fixing it. He then told me it was in the "right of way" and said "take it down".
LOL
I did have a hard time containing myself. At this point he whips out his business card, showing he is a town official. He told me that "local zoning" prevents anything placed in the public right of way (you know, that twelve feet of grass that the town/state owns on the side of the road). I told him that he was messing with First Amendment rights here, that political free speech was expecially protected by our courts, and that if the local Selectmen wanted to take on the First Amendment, then God bless 'em. I also pointed out that there are about 1000 signs in this stuck-up little village I live in, that are all, without exception, in the so-called "right of way", that I was only standing up a broken sign, not erecting it, yet none of this mattered to the town official.
It became plain to him fairly quickly that I was telling him to go pound sand, so he left in a huff, headed straight for the town offices like a crying kid running to mama. I decided to phone the town manager.
The town manager explained that "complaints were coming in" and that some of these signs were not "acceptable". The town manager told me it was in fact a state law, not local zoning, that was in play here. I told him that the Constitution was a federal deal that trumps whatever attempt a state might make to squash free political speech, and that in any event, he was not applying the law equally, as it was ONLY ME and the sign I was fixing that was getting their attention.
This is not over. There will be a selectmens meeting "after the election", according to the town manager, where the issue of "unwanted" and "illegal" signs will be brought up. I plan to be there, and I plan to point out that these are temporary signs, not unlike real estate broker signs, "sandwichboard" signs that advertise town happenings of all types, yard sale signs, etc. etc. etc. that are all, pretty much without exception, in this so-called "right of way" grass on the side of the road.
This is not supposed to happen in New Hampshire, where we live by the motto "Live Free of Die". It's even on our license plates. Now, I do live in a snobbby, affluent town, and I can appreciate that they want the town to be as quaint and as attractive as possible, but this incident completely crosses the line. My nest has been stirred, and the town officials will probably live to regret it, as I am now VERY much going to be paying attention to a lot of what they do.
In response to your obvious need to be informed:
Congratulations for finding information on the one other instance in US history where the candidate with less electoral votes won. I fail to see the relevance. I am quite sure that if you were to ask the folks that want to monitor US elections, they would not count amoung their reasons for doing so, such issues as the electoral count vs popular vote inequity. It is a fact of the American political system that the possibility exists for a win without winning the popular vote. Really, the monitors are not stupid- they know this already. They are going to be interested in seeing us honor our OWN election rules, which as written, are quite fair. Problem is, these election rules (LAWS) are being ignored, which is often a felony. Just a guess, but I think the monitors are going to be far more interested in people being denied the right to vote, votes not counted, election rigging, and lets not forget the much-expected train-wreck that will be Florida with their dubious dabbling in electronic voting.
If the truth hurts, maybe it ought to. We gave a clear demonstration to the world in 2000 that we have no business monitoring other countries' elections. We have been the shining light of democracy in this world for a long time, and it has been terribly important all those years that we got it right, because how else would anyone ever follow our lead? If you ask me, I think the monitors are doing us a favor, attempting with all they've got to get us back on track. The world needs us back on track.
Oh man I thought I was almost alone on this one. I HATE that term. I watched a news story about blogs and they showed /. on TV. It made my skin crawl to hear folks call it a "blog".
We are headed for general warfare. The Republicans seem to think that we can spend spend spend and give away all our piggy bank and the sun will somehow still shine. Democrats are convinced that letting in waves of immigrants from the South will fund the Social Security system. What a mess. The fact is that the younger generation will not have enough to give, and the Me Generation (they call themselves 'boomers') will not be willing to give up anything they have been promised. It will come to a head when the younger generation finally is in power, like the Me Generation is now, and hard decisions are made about whom gets what. Generational Warfare.
I think you must be stoned, perhaps a cheerleader of the wildly-propagating Cheney-type secrecy that exists in government all of a sudden. Go ahead, shoot the messenger, but know you have it backwards- it is the promoters of the secrecy (like yourself) that need to be dealt with, not those that follow their job desriptions to the letter. How long do you suppose it will take government and all who work within it to be forthright, if the voters not only don't care, but actually DEFEND the wasteful behavior!
As "the boss" in my organization, I hire people to do a job, and I expect it done. Completely. If it's not, I NEED to know, and if I can't get information from one channel, I'll try another. I have seen too many situations in my career where a pile of people "in the trenches" burn out, lose direction and eventually quit because of an idiot, non-performing manager that nobody dared to speak against. Almost without exception, I have promoted those that are not afraid to challenge me when they think It's appropriate. A supervisor that wants yes men and an unchallenged day is an extremely poor manager indeed, and a sysadmin that is fired for doing his job as outlined in writing when he was hired would seem to me to have a strong legal case. Put ME on that jury.
Yes it is Queen's English. It's also HER Majesty's Ships (HMS Whatever) in the Royal Navy, and God save the QUEEN in the national anthem, because a Queen is presently in power. I'm just a Leftist New Hampshire Mac user, but what do I know.
I am totally against the war in Iraq, but I cant help but feel sorry for this guy and his pathetic meaningless stand. Dont let the screen door hit you on the way out.
Im gone too. four years ago I left Cingular as fast as I could run. Now what do I do? Verizon or Cingular? Lovely.
I might have said the same thing before I took a little time to poke around the data center and talk to people. You might be surprised how many people are running Darwin without the OS X GUI.