Hey, if we can build a space elevator out of these puppies, why not train tracks? If there so cheap enough to make, we might just see some grass-roots style train development...
That is of course, if and only if nanotubes can be developed to be environmentally sound.
Woops, I replied to the main story too quick. Looks like lots of people already saw the googles connection bofre I did.
Still interesting to note the gyroscope relationship. And unlike most of the other posters, I think this is a fabulous idea. Yes the virual Boy floped. But it was too soon. I mean, it was all red, it hurt the eyes. It was hardly 3d, it was uncomfortable, had no option to look around. It was a gimmik. This could be the real deal we used to see in movies back inn the mid 90's.
So this thing has two screens, and no one knows what it looks like.
The thing that would really be advantageous for having two screens that I can think of is 3D goggles. Sure, the press release doesn't come close to mentioning this. But it would be sweet. It would be like virual boy two, only it would actually work cause it would be in colour.
Also, if they use the same kind of leds they use in the GameBoy Advance, it might not be so hard on the eyes, as say those Sony TV goggles thingies that came out a few years back/
Yes yes. wide eyed speculation. But gawd damn it, I say whoever is the first to market with good 3D VR goggles for gaming wins prize.
And when you through in the fact that nintendo purchased all that gyroscope related IP, (http://www.gyration.com/pr-nintendo.htm) well, put the the two together, and you got the building blocks of some damned sweet VR gogles.
How about, a "spam" button beneath every comment, accessible to rigestered users. The message then gets put in the spam pile, to be deleted after a certain amnount of time.
Also, if the editor notices a registered user labels non-spam as spam, he could ravoke that users use of the spam button.
If it still gets out of hand, it would have at least been an interesting experement.
A little off topic, as it has nothing to do with the sleezyness of the story, but just an idea of a voting system that might actually work, in a nut shell make everyone audit all votes:
Here goes
1. All votes are assigned a unique number.
2. This number is given to the voter after he makes the vote, and is sent to the database.
3. The entire database of vote_number -> vote is stored in a single file, that is distributed to everyone. Yes thats right everyone gets a file contaning the votes of everyone else. Not with names, just anonymous numbers.
This way:
A: everyone can make sure there vote was tallied the way it was supposed to be, by looking up the number they recieved on the master file.
B: everyone could be sure that the tally was accurate, bacause everyone would have the same file. The redundancy of the file would prevent anyone from manipulating the vote anywhere.
So what do you guys think, am I over looking something fundimental, or is it that simple. It doesn't even require open source software to be implemented. Just an open data set.
I knew a dude who used to work for napster, don't know what he's doing these days... Anyway, dude was diagnosed with ADHD, but he stayed away from the drugs.
His strategy was to work on many projects simultaneously, and constantly shuffle between them. Seriously! The guy would work on one thing for like 1 minute to 20 minutes, and then move on to the next. He often juggled up to 10 different tasks at once.
It helped that had 3 PC's in his office. And at least one of them running Linux with multiple desk tops.
Not sure if this will help you, but it definitely worked for him!
Of course, what is really needed is a third choice, a totally Free Software media codec solution that's competitive with both Windows Media and MPEG 4.
Isn't that precisly what DivX is?
The example Kurzweil uses is his "Spiritual Machines" book concerning this, goes something like the following: It has been shown that people can live and be conscious with only the right side, and only the left side of the brain. No imagine if you split your brain in half, and put your left brain in China and your right brain in the US. Then imagine you could some how connect them wirelessly. Then imaginbe you connect your brain wirlelessly to additional pieces. The point being: who says you consciousness has to exist in a single location. Many would argue that concsiousness is formed out of the complexity of thwe whole. If this is the case, maintaining consciousness through the whole upload / download transitions, is the same problem as having a distrivuted mind. If you can do one, then you can do the other.
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The solution is:
1. Give everyone in the world a secure online bank account that people can donate money too.
2. Place a link to this account (or a web page hosting the account) in all media generated by said persons.
That is all.
If people like an artist, or a content creator, they can give them money to make more.
For example a small game company could give away a game for free. And then they make a web site that says. To make a sequal we need this much money: x.xx$ So far we have this much money: x.xx$
If you want to see a sequal please support our cause.
You could evan have multiple projects, and everyone could donate as much as they liked to whatever they liked.
>Oh, and it has nothing to do with distiributed
>computing over the Internet. The application
>architecture is similar, but that's it. And >yeah, no batches here:)
really? It seems allot of people are saying that in this discussion, But its not the idea I got from the article:
"Speaking at the Game Developers Conference (GDC), an annual trade show for the creative and technological sides of the game industry, Shin'ichi Okamoto, chief technical officer for Sony Computer Entertainment, said research efforts for the PlayStation 3 are focusing on distributed computing, a method for spreading computational tasks across myriad networked computers."
Don't just think distributed graphics processing, think distributed storage, and distributed AI.
This would allow for P2P massivly multiplayer RPGs. Worlds could span and grow endlessly, as you could download details of the lanscape from the people who virtually hang out in said landscape.
This amounts to an nearly infanite amount of storage, for creating huge complex, and detailed worlds. Of course the problem would be synching so everyone sees the same world. but some games might not require as much synching as others. These online worlds could would be rapidly evolving.
AI NPC's could evolve by learing how other users play, and learning from other AI's they meet traveling from Playstation3s to Playstation3s.
Bassically we are talking about a gigantic computer on wich to run genitic type algorithems, allowing for wolrds that might actually grow in depth and realism over time. The possibilities are mind boggling really.
Compared to todays MMORPG's I would say that such an advancrment would open up the possibilities for video games at least 1000x.
Lets admit here that jonkatz' articles are really about 15 year old BOYS. He's ignoring geeky 15 year old girls. Girls don't want porn, and usually aren't as devoted gamers as guys. Why is that? What do girls go online for? How are young women changing the web? I know from experience that we are less encouraged to become hardcore programmers. But are encouraged to become journalists or graphics people.
As the internet grows, everyone can start playing on an even playing field. regardless of age,race,and social standing. Thats the real story.
You guys are all talking about 15 year olds? NO, just geeky 15 year old boys. We all know why guys go on the net; games and PORN. Yes, thats right, free porn that you don't have to hide under your matress. Genious. Then, after porn and games, they go wandering and
What the hell kind of name is that?! This has to be a joke. CowboyNeal, say it isn't so! I can't handle this. I want an explanation.
He might as well have called it "A New Hope 2",
starring Christopher Walken as Obi Wan, and featuring the cast of American Pie.
Someone needs to shoot George Lucas before he does anything else...But wait...Maybe he's already dead...MAYBE He REALLY died in the mid eighties, but he was CLONED!!!!Thats it! His clone is now wrecking havoc on the world, tricking them into watching hour upon hour of JarJars and annoying little Anakin Skywalkers!!! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!Meanwhile, George Lucas writhes in his grave, awaiting the day when he will rise again, to save the world from His evil Clone!!!!! Sounds like a good movie to me.
Ray Kurzweil seems to be making Vinge's singularity his life's work:
http://www.kurzweilai.net/news/
And then there's the non-profit corporation, the Singularity Institute for artificial Intelligence, which is determined to bring the Singularity about as soon as possible:
http://www.singinst.org/
There are a lot of good Vinge links on that page too, btw
Singinst seems to be the brainchild of this guy:
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,43080, 00.html
who has a lot of interesting docs here:
http://sysopmind.com/beyond.html
Don't miss, the FAQ on the meaning of life, it's great reading.
IP and copyright laws will not stop people from copying materials any more than current laws stop people from trading information.
I don't think any law in the world prevent people from copying food to feed the starving.
I mean if it's free it's free. Perfect 'Assembler' technology would create an virtual infanite supply of materials. If supply becomes infanite, then the value of the supply becomes zero. Therefore, just about every corporation in existance will cease to make a money.
But this won't be a big deal, because money won't be neccessary any more.
Why would you wan't to make money if you could "replicate" a house, a car, food, beer.
The only real scarcity remaining in nature will be space on this tiny blue planet of ours. Who knows how well solve that problem. Maybe we could send some grey goo to teraform Venus.
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Hey, if we can build a space elevator out of these puppies, why not train tracks? If there so cheap enough to make, we might just see some grass-roots style train development...
That is of course, if and only if nanotubes can be developed to be environmentally sound.
Woops,
I replied to the main story too quick. Looks like lots of people already saw the googles connection bofre I did.
Still interesting to note the gyroscope relationship. And unlike most of the other posters, I think this is a fabulous idea. Yes the virual Boy floped. But it was too soon. I mean, it was all red, it hurt the eyes. It was hardly 3d, it was uncomfortable, had no option to look around. It was a gimmik. This could be the real deal we used to see in movies back inn the mid 90's.
Dude. You may be joking, but I think you might be right.i d=8048648
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=93673&c
So this thing has two screens, and no one knows what it looks like.
The thing that would really be advantageous for having two screens that I can think of is 3D goggles. Sure, the press release doesn't come close to mentioning this. But it would be sweet. It would be like virual boy two, only it would actually work cause it would be in colour.
Also, if they use the same kind of leds they use in the GameBoy Advance, it might not be so hard on the eyes, as say those Sony TV goggles thingies that came out a few years back/
Yes yes. wide eyed speculation. But gawd damn it, I say whoever is the first to market with good 3D VR goggles for gaming wins prize.
And when you through in the fact that nintendo purchased all that gyroscope related IP, (http://www.gyration.com/pr-nintendo.htm) well,
put the the two together, and you got the building blocks of some damned sweet VR gogles.
Remember kids. You heard it hear first.
Interesting idea!
How about, a "spam" button beneath every comment, accessible to rigestered users. The message then gets put in the spam pile, to be deleted after a certain amnount of time.
Also, if the editor notices a registered user labels non-spam as spam, he could ravoke that users use of the spam button.
If it still gets out of hand, it would have at least been an interesting experement.
A little off topic, as it has nothing to do with the sleezyness of the story, but just an idea of a voting system that might actually work, in a nut shell make everyone audit all votes:
Here goes
1. All votes are assigned a unique number.
2. This number is given to the voter after he makes the vote, and is sent to the database.
3. The entire database of vote_number -> vote is stored in a single file, that is distributed to everyone. Yes thats right everyone gets a file contaning the votes of everyone else. Not with names, just anonymous numbers.
This way:
A: everyone can make sure there vote was tallied the way it was supposed to be, by looking up the number they recieved on the master file.
B: everyone could be sure that the tally was accurate, bacause everyone would have the same file. The redundancy of the file would prevent anyone from manipulating the vote anywhere.
So what do you guys think, am I over looking something fundimental, or is it that simple. It doesn't even require open source software to be implemented. Just an open data set.
and no one that I know is even considering using Linux for an embedded system, besides PDAs.
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Really? Maybe you should check this out...
http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT7301151332
10 million leachers and not a single sharer
Except of course, there are 100 of millions of sharers, not 10 million. And A good chunk of them don't live in the USA, (or canada).
Any way you look at it, the RIAA is fighting a lost cause.
I knew a dude who used to work for napster, don't know what he's doing these days... Anyway, dude was diagnosed with ADHD, but he stayed away from the drugs.
His strategy was to work on many projects simultaneously, and constantly shuffle between them. Seriously! The guy would work on one thing for like 1 minute to 20 minutes, and then move on to the next. He often juggled up to 10 different tasks at once.
It helped that had 3 PC's in his office. And at least one of them running Linux with multiple desk tops.
Not sure if this will help you, but it definitely worked for him!
Wow!, It seems SCO's trollery knows no bounds.
I'm confadent that SCO wont get far enouph with this to sue Linus. They'll get driven into the ground long before they get the chance.
But if they did sue Linus, I don't think I could imagine a more unifying cause in the Open Source / Free Software communnity. EVERYBODY loves Linus.
I mean could you imagine the protests of millions outraged geeks?
It would sure give the community allot of publicity. Though I sencerly hope it does not come to that.
Could people 'fake' news through this net?
yes, but the story could be verified by comparing to the file everyone else has. You could also impliment some kind of check sum system as well.
Of course, what is really needed is a third choice, a totally Free Software media codec solution that's competitive with both Windows Media and MPEG 4.
Isn't that precisly what DivX is?
With so many badass games being released, I find it odd that "Dragon's Lair" made it to the front page of slashdot.
Does anybody really even like that game?
The example Kurzweil uses is his "Spiritual Machines" book concerning this, goes something like the following:
It has been shown that people can live and be conscious with only the right side, and only the left side of the brain. No imagine if you split your brain in half, and put your left brain in China and your right brain in the US. Then imagine you could some how connect them wirelessly. Then imaginbe you connect your brain wirlelessly to additional pieces.
The point being: who says you consciousness has to exist in a single location. Many would argue that concsiousness is formed out of the complexity of thwe whole. If this is the case, maintaining consciousness through the whole upload / download transitions, is the same problem as having a distrivuted mind. If you can do one, then you can do the other.
The solution is:
1. Give everyone in the world a secure online bank account that people can donate money too.
2. Place a link to this account (or a web page hosting the account) in all media generated by said persons.
That is all.
If people like an artist, or a content creator, they can give them money to make more.
For example a small game company could give away a game for free. And then they make a web site that says.
To make a sequal we need this much money: x.xx$
So far we have this much money: x.xx$
If you want to see a sequal please support our cause.
You could evan have multiple projects, and everyone could donate as much as they liked to whatever they liked.
The only middleman in this case is the bank.
If the Eldred case fails,
we should all dress up like Mickey Mouse and stage a protest in Washington.
That would get media and public attention, plus, we would all be violating copyright law!
>Oh, and it has nothing to do with distiributed
>computing over the Internet. The application
>architecture is similar, but that's it. And
>yeah, no batches here
really? It seems allot of people are saying that in this discussion, But its not the idea I got from the article:
"Speaking at the Game Developers Conference (GDC), an annual trade show for the creative and technological sides of the game industry, Shin'ichi Okamoto, chief technical officer for Sony Computer Entertainment, said research efforts for the PlayStation 3 are focusing on distributed computing, a method for spreading computational tasks across myriad networked computers."
It makes sense to me.
Don't just think distributed graphics processing, think distributed storage, and distributed AI.
This would allow for P2P massivly multiplayer RPGs.
Worlds could span and grow endlessly, as you could download details of the lanscape from the people who virtually hang out in said landscape.
This amounts to an nearly infanite amount of storage, for creating huge complex, and detailed worlds. Of course the problem would be synching so everyone sees the same world. but some games might not require as much synching as others.
These online worlds could would be rapidly evolving.
AI NPC's could evolve by learing how other users play, and learning from other AI's they meet traveling from Playstation3s to Playstation3s.
Bassically we are talking about a gigantic computer on wich to run genitic type algorithems, allowing for wolrds that might actually grow in depth and realism over time.
The possibilities are mind boggling really.
Compared to todays MMORPG's I would say that such an advancrment would open up the possibilities for video games at least 1000x.
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How fast would Hal lurn if millions of internet users read bed-time stories to it simultaneously?
Lets admit here that jonkatz' articles are really about 15 year old BOYS. He's ignoring geeky 15 year old girls. Girls don't want porn, and usually aren't as devoted gamers as guys. Why is that? What do girls go online for? How are young women changing the web? I know from experience that we are less encouraged to become hardcore programmers. But are encouraged to become journalists or graphics people.
As the internet grows, everyone can start playing on an even playing field. regardless of age,race,and social standing. Thats the real story. You guys are all talking about 15 year olds? NO, just geeky 15 year old boys. We all know why guys go on the net; games and PORN. Yes, thats right, free porn that you don't have to hide under your matress. Genious. Then, after porn and games, they go wandering and
maybe alice cooper will replace jar jar in the next movie?
What the hell kind of name is that?! This has to be a joke. CowboyNeal, say it isn't so! I can't handle this. I want an explanation.
He might as well have called it "A New Hope 2", starring Christopher Walken as Obi Wan, and featuring the cast of American Pie.
Someone needs to shoot George Lucas before he does anything else...But wait...Maybe he's already dead...MAYBE He REALLY died in the mid eighties, but he was CLONED!!!!Thats it! His clone is now wrecking havoc on the world, tricking them into watching hour upon hour of JarJars and annoying little Anakin Skywalkers!!! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!Meanwhile, George Lucas writhes in his grave, awaiting the day when he will rise again, to save the world from His evil Clone!!!!! Sounds like a good movie to me.
YUB YUB!
Ray Kurzweil seems to be making Vinge's singularity his life's work:
, 00.html
http://www.kurzweilai.net/news/
And then there's the non-profit corporation, the Singularity Institute for artificial Intelligence, which is determined to bring the Singularity about as soon as possible:
http://www.singinst.org/
There are a lot of good Vinge links on that page too, btw
Singinst seems to be the brainchild of this guy:
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,43080
who has a lot of interesting docs here:
http://sysopmind.com/beyond.html
Don't miss, the FAQ on the meaning of life, it's great reading.
IP and copyright laws will not stop people from copying materials any more than current laws stop people from trading information.
I don't think any law in the world prevent people from copying food to feed the starving.
I mean if it's free it's free.
Perfect 'Assembler' technology would create an virtual infanite supply of materials. If supply becomes infanite, then the value of the supply becomes zero. Therefore, just about every corporation in existance will cease to make a money.
But this won't be a big deal, because money won't be neccessary any more.
Why would you wan't to make money if you could "replicate" a house, a car, food, beer.
The only real scarcity remaining in nature will be space on this tiny blue planet of ours. Who knows how well solve that problem. Maybe we could send some grey goo to teraform Venus.