OK. But does not the savegame feature take care of this? So if I kick off a 2 hour mission and decide that after 20 minutes I'd rather do X, I just save the game and go off and do X. Later, when I am done with X, she gives me a beer and I am back at the game, where I left off.
In many console games, particularly RPGs (strategy and otherwise), you can't just save wherever you want - you may have to traverse a dungeon to a certain point, finish a long battle, or similar before being allowed to save again.
I stil think this is a good idea, but only if it is all free.
Not going to happen - Might as well get that disappointment out of the way now.
Otherwise, I will never buy this system, as I was planning on doing anway.
Surely Nintendo will be crushed, now that the mighty "stinkjones" has declared his intention to avoid them!
Whenever i hear the name "revolution" I just can't help but think, "the main feature they're talking about now is something I can do using my softmodded xbox and the BIG ASS EMULATOR DISC." Wow. Really enticing.
Yes, never mind that they haven't officially announced a solid launch title lineup, system specs, shown the controller, or given more than general info about the download service. Flame on!
Obviously i have no respect for this next nintendo console, so my humble opinions *may* be a little (cough cough) biased
So? If you don't like it, then don't buy it, and spare the rest of us your juvenile whining.
What would an undecided buyer think when he reads forums chock full of posts by people complaining about the various ways in which Nintendo fucked up?
Like that doesn't happen already? People have been "omplaining about the various ways in which Nintendo fucked up" in public for years now - go read some of the GameFAQs forums, for example.
Despite it all, they've managed to do pretty well and stay afloat.
I look at their site/game and it is very sophisticated. Lots of great programming! How do they pay for all of this? There is no charge to play, and no advertisements. My guess is.... Computer for Sale!
You can buy credits to use in the game with real-life cash. Maybe you should check out their site a little closer before making accusations?
I know of several other games that have similar systems, including a few semi-commercial MUDs.
Well, I had an even lengthier reply written to all this, but Slashdot decided to throw a server error and eat my comment when I previewed, so i'll try to make it brief.
The HD isn't innovative because it allows the saving of games, but because it allows:
If you find it innovative to try and give the console features that have been around on PCs for years, then so be it. I don't. Repeating the same stuff over and over won't change my mind, and I doubt i'll change yours.
Xbox has tons of good games. The problem is that they are the games that most people don't "gush" about... additionally, all the cross-platform games look, sound, and usually play better on Xbox than on GameCube or PS2.
If that's not enough "games worth playing" to you, then you must have a LOT more free time than I do.
Nope, I just have access to almost of those games on platforms I already own, and see no reason to buy another console just to play a small number of exclusives and multi-console games that may or may not be marginally superior.
The Xbox also has more PC-style RPGs than the PS2 and GameCube ever did... given, it doesn't have a lot of RPGs, but I'd MUCH rather play Morrowind over the boring pretentious anime-infected Japanese bullcrap consoles have been stuck with for the last decade. (But tastes vary, of course.)
As you say, tastes vary. Nothing more really needs to be said.
That's fine, that's your preference. But are you seriously saying that an entire genre of games existing on only *one* console *isn't* a selling point for that console? What if GameCube had the only console flight sims right now? Wouldn't you say the GameCube is a better buy if you're interested in flight sims?
As I said in my original post, I purchased a PS2 because I believe it was the better buy to have access to RPGs and strategy games.
Maybe i'm wrong, but I seem to be implying that having a large amount of games in those specific genres was a selling point.
The point here is that whether or not you like adventure games, a lot of people *do*, and for them the Xbox would be a good choice for a console.
Your point?
You think the XBox is good for adventure games - fine.
I don't like them much, but if it's a good enough reason for you to buy an XBox, then great. I'm happy for you. I'm not sure where you think i'm disagreeing on this.
I could imagine that Nintendo wouldn't allow infinite savestates since people would abuse them like there's no tomorrow and finish the games in one or two days, then start complaining.
Heaven forbid people should show some self-control by simply not abusing the feature in the first place.
...and Nintendo makes a killing on Flash Memory expansions.
Game images for older systems are really not all that big - you could easily fit almost all the NES games ever made into 200 MB or so, and most SNES games aren't very huge either. N64 images would be a bit space-hungry, though.
Could be that they'll use some sort of compression, too - most of the decent NES and SNES emulators can run games straight from a *.zip file, for instance.
Not convinced that this is the deal winner at all. All you would really manage to hit is the older Nintendo fans that don`t have their N64 sitting about somewhere.
Speak for yourself. I'm only 24 - hardly old (I hope?), and i'm giddy at the thought of being able to play NES, SNES, and N64 games while sitting on a comfortable couch instead of my desk chair.
Particularly stuff like Mario Kart, Starfox, Super Metroid, Pilotwings, etc. that I hope they figure they've gotten enough profit out of in GBA re-releases already.
Well, I guess this depends on how wide a net you want to cast.
PC's have used internal HD's for gaming purposes for years. Devices that allow you to copy memory card saves back and forth from PC HD's have been around a long time. The N64 had a disk drive of sorts. The PS2 has a hard drive available, though it's optional.
Nintendo's new console will not technically have a hard drive, but I believe they have said it will contain 512 MB of internal flash memory.
I have a very hard time finding the idea of an internal hard drive (in any of the consoles) to be innovative - at best, it's just trying to mimic a PC.
2) Xbox Live.
Again, while very nice, this is nothing you haven't been able to do with a PC for years. Not to mention the fact that the SNES and Genesis had an online gaming network back in 1995.
I will grant that XBox Live has better-than-average oversight and matchmaking features, but beyond that I can't say it's hugely amazing.
Now I know that everybody on Slashdot hates Microsoft and loves Nintendo, and therefore anything positive I say about Microsoft will probably be flamed in replies,
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm trying to control myself here, and I would hope you don't see any of this as a flame.
At any rate, I would probably buy an XBox if it had more games worth playing. All I ever hear people gushing praise about is Halo, GTA, and a few other games....And it's just not enough to justify buying another console. The fact that the RPG selection is abysmal doesn't help either.
I find many rabid XBox supporters to be more annoying than the average console fanboy as well - i.e I don't #^&*$#A^*&ing care how awesome you all think Halo is, I DON'T LIKE IT. PLEASE LEAVE THE REST OF US HEATHENS TO OUR INFERIOR GAMES. THANK YOU.
but in my opinion the Xbox is the most innovative console to come out since the original Playstation. The fact that it also happens to have the best video and audio performance (in this generation) is just icing on the cake.
You're entitled to your opinion, and i'm entitled to mine.
Oh, also, Xbox is the first console to get adventure titles in... how long? Maybe not an "innovation," but certainly a selling point in its favor. I like adventure games.
Whatever makes you happy. Personally, I don't have much interest in adventure games - I bought a PS2 to go with my Cube so I could pig out on RPGs and strategy games.
Now the PSP has pretty much eliminated that market as well.
Care to actually back that up with sales figures?
Nintendo is starting to turn into a cute,but annoying company to me,they don't seem to care about bringing anything new,only repackaging the same things in pointless ways (gameboy DS for instance).
So you're saying the DS - a dual-screen handheld with a touch screen, microphone, limited backwards compatibility, built-in wireless, and 3-D capability....Is just a Gameboy repackaged with nothing new?
Ummm...Right. Perhaps you should learn the concepts of making a rough draft and previewing before you write anything else.
As such,unless nintendo finally steps up to the plate,it unfortunatly looks like they're going to be knocked out of the ballgame. If they don't sell systems,they can't make ANY money,and there done for.
And yet they are selling systems - plenty of them, and at a very healthy profit. I suppose it would be too much to ask for you to actually read the article.
They're forgetting Microsoft has a bottomeless pit of money to use up. They can lose money until both are bankrupt.
At some point, losing money year after year while their main competitors profit isn't going to seem as attractive anymore.
Maybe i'm wrong. Maybe Gates will hang on forever out of sheer spite. However, this assertion that Nintendo and Sony will lay down and die just because Microsoft has more money to lose is unfounded BS at this point.
companies like MS and PSP who are trying their darndest to not only compete for market share, but actually _innovate_ an drive new technologies.
I'd love to see you provide some examples of this so-called "innovation". For MS and Sony, their strategy seems to boil down to:
Hardware: bigger screens, faster processors/graphics, and new media types.
Software: Flashier graphics, PC ports, more "mature" games, and so on.
Logical steps to some people, maybe, but hardly innovative.
And i'll take Nintendo's first-party games over the horde of sports/fighter/racing/FPS sequels that can be found everywhere on the PS2 and XBox - Nintendo may still rely on core franchises, but at least they can still be counted on to show a spark of creativeness.
It wasn't great by any stretch of the imagination, but it still had plenty of titles worth playing. Which games did you play (if you even owned one)?
the gamecube isn't really doing so hot, compared to Xbox and PS2.
More like: the Gamecube and XBox are both getting slaughtered compared to the PS2, the Gamecube is only a small margin behind the XBox in the US, and the XBox is selling horribly in Japan.
I have no doubt they will move a decent number of "Revolutions" but I doubt they'll remain relevant to the 18 - 35 segment of console gamers.
Not everyone has the silly "omg, teh kiddie!!11" prejudice against Nintendo...You might be suprised. Some of us in that age group just like to play good games, even if they have bright colors or cute characters.
To those who think the PSP isn't selling a million units a month, I think you may want to check your facts first. Not only is the PSP selling like hotcakes even at the $250 price point, but the Nintendo DS is essentially dead in the water as far as sales go.
Please, show us the sales figures that back this up.....
What's that? You can't? Ah well.
Nintendo is largely out of touch with what the market wants, despite all of their hubbub about what they think is going to sell.
Nintendo is still around, sticking to their philosophies, and still profitable.
I don't think anything more needs to be said - there's certainly no reason for them to listen to the blind rantings of someone like you.
but I've seen kids from 8 to 18 play it for hours on end and never get tired of it.
Hell, i've seen a huge room of college age+ people (including myself) stay engrossed for hours on end - people still hold fairly regular tournaments for it.
If you check out videos people have posted (mostly of the Home Run Contest part of the game), it's slightly insane what you can be done if you really get into mastering the move system.
I've no doubt that an improved online version of Smash Bros. Meele would be anything less than widly popular.
This is what concerns me about Nintendo. They're sitting still, keeping to their own ways. Meanwhile, the video game market is evolving. More and more gamers don't WANT innovative and creative games anymore.
On the contrary, Nintendo seems to be pretty much the only console maker (although I do admit the PS2 has some great RPGS) that hasn't succumbed to pandering to the graphics-whore "frat-boy" mentality. They may not be in 1st place, but they're still profitable, and they still have fans. I don't see what's so wrong.
I believe it is called Game Boy Player, or something like that. It was released in Japan in February. What does it do? It's a game cartridges with a memory slot that let's the GBA play movies and MP3s.
Errm, no. The Game Boy Player would be this, and what you're thinking of would be this.
Marketing is another big thing Nintendo doesn't seem to get. Reggie and the DS commercials were a step in the right direction, but it's still not enough. An example would be the PSP release. Nintendo has the technology to compete with Sony's handheld.
Are these numbers wrong? Where do ya get the idea that the DS isn't doing just fine competing with the PSP already?
It says right in the press release - "Game Boy Micro represents the latest evolution in the image of the Game Boy Advance line, but it is not a successor to any current system."
But I did read the article that mentioned the "games download" as the "secret weapon" so.. what are you talking about? what anonymous poster comment?
It's not an article, it's not a transcript, it's not an exhaustive fact sheet, it's a press release. Don't let that stop you from latching onto one item and using it to condem the whole thing, though.
(and I did said "giveaway" with quotations, I know Is not a giveaway
If you do, then I have to wonder why you posted in the first place. Again, Nintendo is notoriously secretive with information, and one item from a press release on the first day of E3 is hardly the end-all-be-all.
And seriously guys, I understand you like Nintendo but why do you have to bow at every piece of crap they release or be considered a troll around here?
Maybe because you and people like you label things as a "piece of crap" without even having first-hand experience with it, and then act offended when (horrors!) everyone else doesn't agree with you.
I mean this is what you expected from a next gen 2006 console from Nintendo? downloading old games? you are willing to shell out hundreds of bucks for that?
Along with everything else the console will be able to do, I would be quite satisfied.
Xbox 360 with an already secured user base, is going on its second wave of games, games that actually tax the power of the system. Final Fantasy Online and the ending of halo with an stablished over 5 million user base : Halo 3.
By Final Fantasy Online, I assume you mean FFXI, which has already been out on the PS2 and PC for 3 years. If you think a (by that point) 5-year old game is going to give a huge advantage or tax the new Xbox's capability, you're insane.
Not even going to bother replying to the rest of your rubbish, as it's quite obvious you're a troll, a complete idiot, or both:)
They are not seriously thinking they are going to attract every gamer class with that "giveaway" do they? I mean thats the equivalent of giving away mame roms for crying out loud.
Im begining to wonder: seriously whats the point of buying a revolution? it has the same features than a cube plus dvd play (too little too late) and they are waiting a whole year just for that?
Nice attempt at a troll/act of stupidity. It's quite obvious you haven't even read the article, much less looked at anything else about the Revolution.
If you'll take an anonymous poster's pondering as fact that easily, i've got a bridge to sell you.
If Nintendo could make it so that any of those old multiplayer Nintendo games could be played against another person online instead of having him or her right next to you..... that would be the ultimate killer scenario. Is it possible? I don't know. A guy should be allowed to speculate, though.
You've been able to do this with emulators like ZSNES and Snes9x for years now, so i'd say it's at least possible, if they wanted to do it.
on a practical level, how often do you play old games?
I count about 25 or so PS1 games that i've played in the last 6 months. Not to mention the stack of old Gameboy games.
ok maybe halo once in a blue moon.
This is a big reason why I haven't bought an XBox - i'm not huge into the action, FPS, or sports genres, and that seems to be all people ever talk about when mentioning good games for it. Sure, there's some exceptions, but not enough to justify buying the console.
Whereas conversely, between my PS2 and Cube, I could easily drop $1000 on games today - maybe it's the Japanese origins, or the fact that they don't seem quite as worried about catering to the frat-boy types as Microsoft, i'm not sure.
FFXI is a pay-to-play MMORPG that's already been out for 3+ years on the PS2 and PC platforms, not a traditional single-player game like the other games in the series.
I could see a small boost happening, but at this point it's pretty likely that anyone who was seriously interested has gotten ahold of it already.
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OK. But does not the savegame feature take care of this? So if I kick off a 2 hour mission and decide that after 20 minutes I'd rather do X, I just save the game and go off and do X. Later, when I am done with X, she gives me a beer and I am back at the game, where I left off.
In many console games, particularly RPGs (strategy and otherwise), you can't just save wherever you want - you may have to traverse a dungeon to a certain point, finish a long battle, or similar before being allowed to save again.
I stil think this is a good idea, but only if it is all free.
Not going to happen - Might as well get that disappointment out of the way now.
Otherwise, I will never buy this system, as I was planning on doing anway.
Surely Nintendo will be crushed, now that the mighty "stinkjones" has declared his intention to avoid them!
Whenever i hear the name "revolution" I just can't help but think, "the main feature they're talking about now is something I can do using my softmodded xbox and the BIG ASS EMULATOR DISC." Wow. Really enticing.
Yes, never mind that they haven't officially announced a solid launch title lineup, system specs, shown the controller, or given more than general info about the download service. Flame on!
Obviously i have no respect for this next nintendo console, so my humble opinions *may* be a little (cough cough) biased
So? If you don't like it, then don't buy it, and spare the rest of us your juvenile whining.
What would an undecided buyer think when he reads forums chock full of posts by people complaining about the various ways in which Nintendo fucked up?
Like that doesn't happen already? People have been "omplaining about the various ways in which Nintendo fucked up" in public for years now - go read some of the GameFAQs forums, for example.
Despite it all, they've managed to do pretty well and stay afloat.
I look at their site/game and it is very sophisticated. Lots of great programming! How do they pay for all of this? There is no charge to play, and no advertisements.
My guess is....
Computer for Sale!
You can buy credits to use in the game with real-life cash. Maybe you should check out their site a little closer before making accusations?
I know of several other games that have similar systems, including a few semi-commercial MUDs.
Well, I had an even lengthier reply written to all this, but Slashdot decided to throw a server error and eat my comment when I previewed, so i'll try to make it brief.
The HD isn't innovative because it allows the saving of games, but because it allows:
If you find it innovative to try and give the console features that have been around on PCs for years, then so be it. I don't. Repeating the same stuff over and over won't change my mind, and I doubt i'll change yours.
Xbox has tons of good games. The problem is that they are the games that most people don't "gush" about... additionally, all the cross-platform games look, sound, and usually play better on Xbox than on GameCube or PS2.
If that's not enough "games worth playing" to you, then you must have a LOT more free time than I do.
Nope, I just have access to almost of those games on platforms I already own, and see no reason to buy another console just to play a small number of exclusives and multi-console games that may or may not be marginally superior.
The Xbox also has more PC-style RPGs than the PS2 and GameCube ever did... given, it doesn't have a lot of RPGs, but I'd MUCH rather play Morrowind over the boring pretentious anime-infected Japanese bullcrap consoles have been stuck with for the last decade. (But tastes vary, of course.)
As you say, tastes vary. Nothing more really needs to be said.
That's fine, that's your preference. But are you seriously saying that an entire genre of games existing on only *one* console *isn't* a selling point for that console? What if GameCube had the only console flight sims right now? Wouldn't you say the GameCube is a better buy if you're interested in flight sims?
As I said in my original post, I purchased a PS2 because I believe it was the better buy to have access to RPGs and strategy games.
Maybe i'm wrong, but I seem to be implying that having a large amount of games in those specific genres was a selling point.
The point here is that whether or not you like adventure games, a lot of people *do*, and for them the Xbox would be a good choice for a console.
Your point?
You think the XBox is good for adventure games - fine.
I don't like them much, but if it's a good enough reason for you to buy an XBox, then great. I'm happy for you. I'm not sure where you think i'm disagreeing on this.
I could imagine that Nintendo wouldn't allow infinite savestates since people would abuse them like there's no tomorrow and finish the games in one or two days, then start complaining.
Heaven forbid people should show some self-control by simply not abusing the feature in the first place.
...and Nintendo makes a killing on Flash Memory expansions.
Game images for older systems are really not all that big - you could easily fit almost all the NES games ever made into 200 MB or so, and most SNES games aren't very huge either. N64 images would be a bit space-hungry, though.
Could be that they'll use some sort of compression, too - most of the decent NES and SNES emulators can run games straight from a *.zip file, for instance.
Not convinced that this is the deal winner at all. All you would really manage to hit is the older Nintendo fans that don`t have their N64 sitting about somewhere.
Speak for yourself. I'm only 24 - hardly old (I hope?), and i'm giddy at the thought of being able to play NES, SNES, and N64 games while sitting on a comfortable couch instead of my desk chair.
Particularly stuff like Mario Kart, Starfox, Super Metroid, Pilotwings, etc. that I hope they figure they've gotten enough profit out of in GBA re-releases already.
1) A internal HD.
Well, I guess this depends on how wide a net you want to cast.
PC's have used internal HD's for gaming purposes for years. Devices that allow you to copy memory card saves back and forth from PC HD's have been around a long time. The N64 had a disk drive of sorts. The PS2 has a hard drive available, though it's optional.
Nintendo's new console will not technically have a hard drive, but I believe they have said it will contain 512 MB of internal flash memory.
I have a very hard time finding the idea of an internal hard drive (in any of the consoles) to be innovative - at best, it's just trying to mimic a PC.
2) Xbox Live.
Again, while very nice, this is nothing you haven't been able to do with a PC for years. Not to mention the fact that the SNES and Genesis had an online gaming network back in 1995.
I will grant that XBox Live has better-than-average oversight and matchmaking features, but beyond that I can't say it's hugely amazing.
Now I know that everybody on Slashdot hates Microsoft and loves Nintendo, and therefore anything positive I say about Microsoft will probably be flamed in replies,
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm trying to control myself here, and I would hope you don't see any of this as a flame.
At any rate, I would probably buy an XBox if it had more games worth playing. All I ever hear people gushing praise about is Halo, GTA, and a few other games....And it's just not enough to justify buying another console. The fact that the RPG selection is abysmal doesn't help either.
I find many rabid XBox supporters to be more annoying than the average console fanboy as well - i.e I don't #^&*$#A^*&ing care how awesome you all think Halo is, I DON'T LIKE IT. PLEASE LEAVE THE REST OF US HEATHENS TO OUR INFERIOR GAMES. THANK YOU.
but in my opinion the Xbox is the most innovative console to come out since the original Playstation. The fact that it also happens to have the best video and audio performance (in this generation) is just icing on the cake.
You're entitled to your opinion, and i'm entitled to mine.
Oh, also, Xbox is the first console to get adventure titles in... how long? Maybe not an "innovation," but certainly a selling point in its favor. I like adventure games.
Whatever makes you happy. Personally, I don't have much interest in adventure games - I bought a PS2 to go with my Cube so I could pig out on RPGs and strategy games.
Now the PSP has pretty much eliminated that market as well.
Care to actually back that up with sales figures?
Nintendo is starting to turn into a cute,but annoying company to me,they don't seem to care about bringing anything new,only repackaging the same things in pointless ways (gameboy DS for instance).
So you're saying the DS - a dual-screen handheld with a touch screen, microphone, limited backwards compatibility, built-in wireless, and 3-D capability....Is just a Gameboy repackaged with nothing new?
Ummm...Right. Perhaps you should learn the concepts of making a rough draft and previewing before you write anything else.
As such,unless nintendo finally steps up to the plate,it unfortunatly looks like they're going to be knocked out of the ballgame. If they don't sell systems,they can't make ANY money,and there done for.
And yet they are selling systems - plenty of them, and at a very healthy profit. I suppose it would be too much to ask for you to actually read the article.
They're forgetting Microsoft has a bottomeless pit of money to use up. They can lose money until both are bankrupt.
At some point, losing money year after year while their main competitors profit isn't going to seem as attractive anymore.
Maybe i'm wrong. Maybe Gates will hang on forever out of sheer spite. However, this assertion that Nintendo and Sony will lay down and die just because Microsoft has more money to lose is unfounded BS at this point.
companies like MS and PSP who are trying their darndest to not only compete for market share, but actually _innovate_ an drive new technologies.
I'd love to see you provide some examples of this so-called "innovation". For MS and Sony, their strategy seems to boil down to:
Hardware: bigger screens, faster processors/graphics, and new media types.
Software: Flashier graphics, PC ports, more "mature" games, and so on.
Logical steps to some people, maybe, but hardly innovative.
And i'll take Nintendo's first-party games over the horde of sports/fighter/racing/FPS sequels that can be found everywhere on the PS2 and XBox - Nintendo may still rely on core franchises, but at least they can still be counted on to show a spark of creativeness.
The N64 was a horrible joke
It wasn't great by any stretch of the imagination, but it still had plenty of titles worth playing. Which games did you play (if you even owned one)?
the gamecube isn't really doing so hot, compared to Xbox and PS2.
More like: the Gamecube and XBox are both getting slaughtered compared to the PS2, the Gamecube is only a small margin behind the XBox in the US, and the XBox is selling horribly in Japan.
I have no doubt they will move a decent number of "Revolutions" but I doubt they'll remain relevant to the 18 - 35 segment of console gamers.
Not everyone has the silly "omg, teh kiddie!!11" prejudice against Nintendo...You might be suprised. Some of us in that age group just like to play good games, even if they have bright colors or cute characters.
To those who think the PSP isn't selling a million units a month, I think you may want to check your facts first. Not only is the PSP selling like hotcakes even at the $250 price point, but the Nintendo DS is essentially dead in the water as far as sales go.
....
Please, show us the sales figures that back this up.
What's that? You can't? Ah well.
Nintendo is largely out of touch with what the market wants, despite all of their hubbub about what they think is going to sell.
Nintendo is still around, sticking to their philosophies, and still profitable.
I don't think anything more needs to be said - there's certainly no reason for them to listen to the blind rantings of someone like you.
I assume it will be able to play GCN games because the hardware will be similar enough
Yes, it will. This was one of the first things that was confirmed.
but I've seen kids from 8 to 18 play it for hours on end and never get tired of it.
Hell, i've seen a huge room of college age+ people (including myself) stay engrossed for hours on end - people still hold fairly regular tournaments for it.
If you check out videos people have posted (mostly of the Home Run Contest part of the game), it's slightly insane what you can be done if you really get into mastering the move system.
I've no doubt that an improved online version of Smash Bros. Meele would be anything less than widly popular.
This is what concerns me about Nintendo. They're sitting still, keeping to their own ways. Meanwhile, the video game market is evolving. More and more gamers don't WANT innovative and creative games anymore.
On the contrary, Nintendo seems to be pretty much the only console maker (although I do admit the PS2 has some great RPGS) that hasn't succumbed to pandering to the graphics-whore "frat-boy" mentality. They may not be in 1st place, but they're still profitable, and they still have fans. I don't see what's so wrong.
I believe it is called Game Boy Player, or something like that. It was released in Japan in February. What does it do? It's a game cartridges with a memory slot that let's the GBA play movies and MP3s.
Errm, no. The Game Boy Player would be this, and what you're thinking of would be this.
Marketing is another big thing Nintendo doesn't seem to get. Reggie and the DS commercials were a step in the right direction, but it's still not enough. An example would be the PSP release. Nintendo has the technology to compete with Sony's handheld.
Are these numbers wrong? Where do ya get the idea that the DS isn't doing just fine competing with the PSP already?
God, does your idiocy ever end?
It says right in the press release - "Game Boy Micro represents the latest evolution in the image of the Game Boy Advance line, but it is not a successor to any current system."
But I did read the article that mentioned the "games download" as the "secret weapon" so .. what are you talking about? what anonymous poster comment?
It's not an article, it's not a transcript, it's not an exhaustive fact sheet, it's a press release. Don't let that stop you from latching onto one item and using it to condem the whole thing, though.
(and I did said "giveaway" with quotations, I know Is not a giveaway
If you do, then I have to wonder why you posted in the first place. Again, Nintendo is notoriously secretive with information, and one item from a press release on the first day of E3 is hardly the end-all-be-all.
And seriously guys, I understand you like Nintendo but why do you have to bow at every piece of crap they release or be considered a troll around here?
Maybe because you and people like you label things as a "piece of crap" without even having first-hand experience with it, and then act offended when (horrors!) everyone else doesn't agree with you.
I mean this is what you expected from a next gen 2006 console from Nintendo? downloading old games? you are willing to shell out hundreds of bucks for that?
Along with everything else the console will be able to do, I would be quite satisfied.
Xbox 360 with an already secured user base, is going on its second wave of games, games that actually tax the power of the system. Final Fantasy Online and the ending of halo with an stablished over 5 million user base : Halo 3.
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By Final Fantasy Online, I assume you mean FFXI, which has already been out on the PS2 and PC for 3 years. If you think a (by that point) 5-year old game is going to give a huge advantage or tax the new Xbox's capability, you're insane.
Not even going to bother replying to the rest of your rubbish, as it's quite obvious you're a troll, a complete idiot, or both
They are not seriously thinking they are going to attract every gamer class with that "giveaway" do they? I mean thats the equivalent of giving away mame roms for crying out loud.
Im begining to wonder: seriously whats the point of buying a revolution? it has the same features than a cube plus dvd play (too little too late) and they are waiting a whole year just for that?
Nice attempt at a troll/act of stupidity. It's quite obvious you haven't even read the article, much less looked at anything else about the Revolution.
If you'll take an anonymous poster's pondering as fact that easily, i've got a bridge to sell you.
If Nintendo could make it so that any of those old multiplayer Nintendo games could be played against another person online instead of having him or her right next to you..... that would be the ultimate killer scenario. Is it possible? I don't know. A guy should be allowed to speculate, though.
You've been able to do this with emulators like ZSNES and Snes9x for years now, so i'd say it's at least possible, if they wanted to do it.
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on a practical level, how often do you play old games?
I count about 25 or so PS1 games that i've played in the last 6 months. Not to mention the stack of old Gameboy games.
ok maybe halo once in a blue moon.
This is a big reason why I haven't bought an XBox - i'm not huge into the action, FPS, or sports genres, and that seems to be all people ever talk about when mentioning good games for it. Sure, there's some exceptions, but not enough to justify buying the console.
Whereas conversely, between my PS2 and Cube, I could easily drop $1000 on games today - maybe it's the Japanese origins, or the fact that they don't seem quite as worried about catering to the frat-boy types as Microsoft, i'm not sure.
FFXI is a pay-to-play MMORPG that's already been out for 3+ years on the PS2 and PC platforms, not a traditional single-player game like the other games in the series.
I could see a small boost happening, but at this point it's pretty likely that anyone who was seriously interested has gotten ahold of it already.