Well, no worries about killing a filter yet, as that mail was on my Yahoo account that's become a spam-trap - Yahoo's (free) spam filtering is basically useless, as even the folder for "normal" mail gets about 200 spams a week or so. I should just close it, but it's the first mail account I ever had, and i've become somewhat attached to it:)
Thanks for pointing that out, anyway, as i'd been wondering....Seems like every spam I get these days has 3 or 4 lines of completely random words at the bottom.
But what exactly is the barrier to a significant userbase? Linux is free and you can install it on a partition on your HD; you don't have to get rid of Windows to run or even try Linux. So what is the barrier? If you can't even get people to take something for free you know you have a problem.
I think you're missing something - to the majority of computer users, setting up a dual-boot system or doing pretty much anything along those lines is scary, complicated, and unless they have a geek friend or extremely precise help, dangerous to their system(s). Hell, i'm willing to bet that most people don't even understand how data is stored on their drives, let alone the concept of partitions.
And even if you do somehow get a casual gamer to install Linux, what is there to play? Sure, there's Quake, the UT series, NWN, and a relative handful of other games, but that won't keep forever. And that's IF the person even likes any of the games available in the first place.
And the free games included with many distros are in the same boat - as someone said in the previous thread, it creates excitement when you see the huge list available, then it slowly dawns on you that it's (almost) all board/card games and mediocre clones.
Conversely, get more games included like Frozen Bubble and a few others, and there might begin to be a chance of holding someone's interest.
Just found this at the bottom of a recent spam. Not sure what they're selling, but i'm strangely compelled to mail the address and find out.
"Justice, remarked the Scarecrow, with a sigh, is a dangerous thing to meddle withYou have knocked over a good many people with that tube during the past week not really, you can mail P.O. B 1200b Oranjestad Aruba I know, said Rob; but I couldn't help itIt was the only way I had to protect myself "
On the side issue of a knoppix game disk. What is the benefit of having people treat their PCs as a glorified console to play a game, then going back to windows for everything else?
As I think someone said above, people want to be lazy when dealing with their computers. And really, why shouldn't they be? Many times, I get the feeling that some developers make things harder to use just for the hell of it these days - those that rant and rave about how horrible the eye-candy in Windows is, use stripped-down and/or CLI tools for everything, etc. come to mind
My point is, anyway, that (almost) no casual gamer will install a new OS just because of one or two uberGames. What are they supposed to do when they're not playing the game(s), and they're confronted with the bevy of Linux UI problems that still exist?
Dual-booting might help, but that would still frighten off the large majority of the intended audience.
The catch being to charge for the windows version, while releasing the linux version for free. the games are good enough and don't focus on the activities of penguins, this would be incentive for windows gamers to try linux and see the benefits.
Unless these games are the best that anyone has played, ever, this will not work.
If they must install a whole new OS to play a game or two for free, Windows gamers will simply move on to one of the thousands of games that Just Work under Windows and play happily. Or suck it up and get the pay version, because that would still be easier than installing Linux for many (most?) casual gamers.
I suppose something like Knoppix could provide a better chance, but even then I don't see much happening.
How well does WineX work in allowing Windows-platform games to work on Linux?
It really depends what kind of game you want to play. Looking at their supported titles list:
5(Works perfectly): 7. One of those being Diablo 2, which has been out for almost 5 years, and 2 of the other being Warcraft 3+expansion. And another being a Hoyle Card Game collection.
4(Playable with minor irritations): 278. Including such gems as "Blair Witch, Volume 2: The Legend of Coffin Rock", "Putt-Putt and Pep's Balloon-O-Rama", "Revenge of Marjorie the Chicken", or "Hello Kitty: Cutie World".
As you can see on closer inspection, the vast majority of the games with these ratings fall into one of two categories:
1) FPS games.
2) Games from at least 2-5 years ago with massive followings, like Star/Warcraft, or Everquest.
3) Obscure games that almost nobody does or would ever want to play.
The rest of the list, ranging from "Playable with major irritations" to "May install but there is no gameplay", down to "Does not install and does not work" contains, at last inspection, around 591 titles, or more than twice the amount of working titles. Take from that what you will. If all you want to play is games on their "5" or "4" lists, then it may be worth it to you.
And finally, how much do you have to pay for it?
$5 per month with three month minimum for access to updated binaries of the software. I believe only the subscription version contains code to work with stuff like special CD copy protection, but that may be different now - I subscribed a couple years back, and cancelled my subscription when I couldn't get any game I owned working to satisfaction.
And yes, if someone is looking at my post history, this is stuff I posted a few weeks ago.
Come on, if you can't believe that people grow out of some things, then maybe you haven't grown up yet either.
I guess not. And judging from the attitudes of many so-called "mature" citizens, I think i'm better for it.
I liked the cartoony graphics as a kid, but now it's just tired and hackneyed.
But all the dark, gory, or ultraviolent games aren't, right? Please.
The odd game with cartoon graphics is fine, but with nintendo, that's all they fucking do!
Heaven forbid a game doesn't have large amounts of blood, violent deaths, near-naked women in CG movies, etc. Nintendo concentrates on gameplay over fluff and gore, and that's the way many people like it.
And how many times do they have to do the same damned game? Donkey kong, zelda, mario, metroid... It's worse than final fantasy already..
Again, that's what people like. There's plenty else to play besides Nintendo's main franchises, though, at least if you're not intentionally blinding yourself to what's out there.
Slight inaccuracies the emulator(s) may have, but they're still worlds better than most of the collections/re-releases out for consoles these days.
The Gamecube version of Namco Museum comes to mind - for some reason, even at the largest display mode, all the games (except Pole Position and the original Galaga) are at about 80-90% of original size on the screen, not to mention being rather fuzzy. In contrast, I can fire up MAME and play all of them on my monitor with the correct sizes and resolution.
It's nice that you can restore and sell cabinets, but not everyone has the extra cash to spend on buying them in the first place, not to mention the skill to restore them.
Emulators are really the closest the majority of gamers can get to the originals, and I would hazard a guess that it's close enough for many.
Ya see, this is the problem. No "normal" user is going to want to use command-line tools like this to burn CDs.
They want to pick tracks from a graphical file manager, hit "burn", and have a fnished CD 10 minutes later.
And why shouldn't they? Though i'm sure someone will try to prove me wrong within minutes of posting this, there's really no reason to have a friendlier interface than the command line for things like this, assuming it's done fairly cleanly. Eschewing graphics in lieu of (percieved) performance increases is all well and good, but not if it locks out potential users.
Pretty much every game ever made, except for the Unreal series, Quake 3, and a relative handful of other titles. A quick eyeball of the listings in the Macintosh section at www.gamefaqs.com suggests probably a couple hundred titles available, with most being fairly old. Compared with the amount of games available as Windows-only, Mac support is only a drop in the bucket. *nix support is even worse...Even with WINE, I think the last time I tried to do a count, there was something like twice the amount of non-working titles as those that were.
As for non-gaming software, I agree that I may have less of a case there, but my original post was centered on gaming, and there I stay. Just from my personal knowledge though, the Mac is pretty strong in the area of office and design software, but beyond that I don't really know. *nix is less sure, relying more on stuff like WINE/Crossover. Feel free to fill me in on specifics if you like, but i'm not going to hunt down a complete list for you.
As I stated before, anyway, many people use their systems for entertainment, and switching to a platform that doesn't support many options for that entertainment will severely limit things.
Come on x86ers, save up for a Mac (even a used one) and get more stuff done more enjoyably. If you're going to spend $ on new hardware (which Longhorn will surely require for 95% of the pop.), don't run the risk of it not working with your setup.. and you can still run *nix or a BSD.
No.
Y'see, silly as it may sound, many of us "x86ers" have games that either run in an inferior fashion or not at all on a *nix/BSD system.
More people use their systems for entertainment than you might think, and until Mac and *nix proponents stop thinking that all anybody might ever want to do is development, web browsing, or email - alternatives to Windows will not take off among many (if not all) home users.
The arrogance many Mac/*nix users seem to have is unbelieveable, assuming that everyone should be able to switch platforms and be perfectly fine - who cares about the gigantic amount of purchased Windows software out there with no alternate versions, right?
Move to Linux and you'll see;). Simply because my computer is doing heavy, CPU intensive stuff in the background doesn't hurt my desktop experience in any way, at least if I was smart enough to use "nice -n 19 make" to start the compile.
Actually, my system is dual-boot with Redhat 9 and Win XP Pro at the moment. But anyway, I do agree. My point in the original post was that if you're obsessively worried about something taking up CPU time while you're compiling, why are you running anything, least of all Flash content? I'm not necessarily agreeing, just fitting the argument to the way Via Patrino seems to feel.
Personally, I have no qualms about running everything including the kitchen sink at once - if a compile or movie encoding or something is going to take a while, there's always something else to work on while it finishes.
I guess that's the difference between Windows and a multitasking OS...
Not sure who you're responding to here, but just to be clear again- I was referring to running under Windows when I mentioned being able to run a million n' a half things with no slowdown:) And on a clunky old P3, no less.
Gundam Wing raises philosophical exposition to an artform.
Any battles that don't involve the opposing sides lecturing eachother for 10+ minutes on exactly why they hate each other and why the other side really has no purpose in life...Just don't do it for me after that series. Really.
Alright, first of all, i'm using Windows primarily, as most people viewing Flash content at the moment are. You seem to be using Linux, which is fine, but you are not typical, and Flash support under Linux is also rather less polished from what i've gathered.
It definitly won't choke any computer, but using 7% of my computer time, just because there's an ad playing (and I won't even look at it because it's in background), is not what I want when compiling some heavy program that will take hours.
If you're doing heavy compiling, I don't see why you'd want to be running anything else. I don't think Flash is unique in that respect. Further, the typical user and viewer of Flash content will not be doing CPU-intensive compiles while web browsing.
It may not be a lot for some, but for people which computer is always doing other stuff in background (aswell as their browser is always opened where you last stopped) or just waiting a java applet on the other window, it is.
I thought I implied this well enough...I generally have a large amount of background activity and/or open applications going, yet Flash does nothing to appreciably slow anything down. I don't think i'm uncommon in that I usually have several web windows open, an instant messanger, music playing, and whatnot.
I agree now that I shouldn't have used "sucks" (might be a strong word for some) but that's what I feel about it most of the time, and don't think my comment should be hidden for most of people ( tagged flamebait) just because of that.
Saying something "sucks" solely based on generalizations drawn from your non-typical experiences would seem like flamebait/trolling of some sort to me. Not horrible, to be sure, but still.
Something that endless consume your processor speed (like a little movie) while you're reading a text or with a lot of tabs/windows open, it's definitly not the way I want to expend my processor time.
I think you may have some other problems, if you can't play a Flash movie without crushing your performance. As I type this, I have an 800x600 Flash movie playing, 5 other instances (and probably 15 tabs) of Firefox running, as well as an active connection to a busy MUD, AIM, etc....With no appreciable slowdown at all. And this is on a 4 year-old P3 667.
As others have said above me, the problem is not with Flash itself, but with how people use it. Yes, it can be used to make annoying ads and interfaces, but it can also be used to make some pretty damn neat things as well.
In Star Trek, everyone has neatly groomed hair and they're always nice to each other. Firefly seemed to be about normal, flawed people who happen to fly around in space.
Try watching Deep Space 9. I love ST:NG, to be sure, but DS9 is even better. And more of a dark and gritty feel to it, with characters that don't always get along.
Actually, Zelda DX(Otherwise known as The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX) is a colorized version of the Gameboy game Link's Awakening from 1994, with a bit of extra stuff added.
Maybe you should watch a little closer the next time she plays it.
A joke it may be, but it's worn out, and i'm perfectly within my rights to find anyone who makes it in need of a better class of humor.
What I find ironic, however, is how someone can be roasted alive if they tried saying the same types of things about another country, or perhaps Europe in general. But if it's the US, it's fine, because we're all overweight hamburger addicts that think we're the center of the universe, and anyway, they're really just joking, so don't get mad, etc.
Maybe I just haven't had your worldly experience, but I still find that rubbish rather insulting, even disguised as jokes.
You're certainly entitled to your own opinion, though. Just remember that I am as well. And in any case, i'm done with this thread.
Thanks for lowering my opinion of (most) those outside the US by yet another notch. Bashing anyone or anything based on idiotic stereotypes only makes you look even worse than they are.
Sorry, I missed 15 Japanese-only games that 90% of past, present, or future US PS1/PS2 owners probably don't even know exist.
And since this story deals with the US market...Unless you're a rabid importer of Japanese titles, that does absolutely nothing to invalidate the points raised in my original post. Nice job nit-picking, though, I guess i'm not perfect after all.
Because the PS1 is almost 10 years old at this point, and the PS2 can play every PS1 game ever made.
Assuming they can afford one, and there's at least some PS2 games that someone likes, why would they be buying a PS1 when they could get a PS2 and have the best of both worlds? And even then, i've heard of plenty of people that use their PS2's largely for playing old PS1 games.
Use your head, instead of trying to sound superior.
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No, they'll take 5 minutes to download and install the fix for the vulnerable product they're running, and be fine afterwards.
Too many damn trolls around here...You probably think Linux apps never have any holes, right?
Assuming you're not trolling, do some work on your own and try visiting www.internet2.org.
Well, no worries about killing a filter yet, as that mail was on my Yahoo account that's become a spam-trap - Yahoo's (free) spam filtering is basically useless, as even the folder for "normal" mail gets about 200 spams a week or so. I should just close it, but it's the first mail account I ever had, and i've become somewhat attached to it :)
Thanks for pointing that out, anyway, as i'd been wondering....Seems like every spam I get these days has 3 or 4 lines of completely random words at the bottom.
But what exactly is the barrier to a significant userbase? Linux is free and you can install it on a partition on your HD; you don't have to get rid of Windows to run or even try Linux. So what is the barrier? If you can't even get people to take something for free you know you have a problem.
I think you're missing something - to the majority of computer users, setting up a dual-boot system or doing pretty much anything along those lines is scary, complicated, and unless they have a geek friend or extremely precise help, dangerous to their system(s). Hell, i'm willing to bet that most people don't even understand how data is stored on their drives, let alone the concept of partitions.
And even if you do somehow get a casual gamer to install Linux, what is there to play? Sure, there's Quake, the UT series, NWN, and a relative handful of other games, but that won't keep forever. And that's IF the person even likes any of the games available in the first place.
And the free games included with many distros are in the same boat - as someone said in the previous thread, it creates excitement when you see the huge list available, then it slowly dawns on you that it's (almost) all board/card games and mediocre clones.
Conversely, get more games included like Frozen Bubble and a few others, and there might begin to be a chance of holding someone's interest.
Just found this at the bottom of a recent spam. Not sure what they're selling, but i'm strangely compelled to mail the address and find out.
"Justice, remarked the Scarecrow, with a sigh, is a dangerous thing to meddle withYou have knocked over a good many people with that tube during the past week not really, you can mail P.O. B 1200b Oranjestad Aruba I know, said Rob; but I couldn't help itIt was the only way I had to protect myself "
On the side issue of a knoppix game disk. What is the benefit of having people treat their PCs as a glorified console to play a game, then going back to windows for everything else?
As I think someone said above, people want to be lazy when dealing with their computers. And really, why shouldn't they be? Many times, I get the feeling that some developers make things harder to use just for the hell of it these days - those that rant and rave about how horrible the eye-candy in Windows is, use stripped-down and/or CLI tools for everything, etc. come to mind
My point is, anyway, that (almost) no casual gamer will install a new OS just because of one or two uberGames. What are they supposed to do when they're not playing the game(s), and they're confronted with the bevy of Linux UI problems that still exist?
Dual-booting might help, but that would still frighten off the large majority of the intended audience.
The catch being to charge for the windows version, while releasing the linux version for free. the games are good enough and don't focus on the activities of penguins, this would be incentive for windows gamers to try linux and see the benefits.
Unless these games are the best that anyone has played, ever, this will not work.
If they must install a whole new OS to play a game or two for free, Windows gamers will simply move on to one of the thousands of games that Just Work under Windows and play happily. Or suck it up and get the pay version, because that would still be easier than installing Linux for many (most?) casual gamers.
I suppose something like Knoppix could provide a better chance, but even then I don't see much happening.
I'm being modbombed for my opinions. Check my posting history.
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
How well does WineX work in allowing Windows-platform games to work on Linux?
It really depends what kind of game you want to play. Looking at their supported titles list:
5(Works perfectly): 7. One of those being Diablo 2, which has been out for almost 5 years, and 2 of the other being Warcraft 3+expansion. And another being a Hoyle Card Game collection.
4(Playable with minor irritations): 278. Including such gems as "Blair Witch, Volume 2: The Legend of Coffin Rock", "Putt-Putt and Pep's Balloon-O-Rama", "Revenge of Marjorie the Chicken", or "Hello Kitty: Cutie World".
As you can see on closer inspection, the vast majority of the games with these ratings fall into one of two categories:
1) FPS games.
2) Games from at least 2-5 years ago with massive followings, like Star/Warcraft, or Everquest.
3) Obscure games that almost nobody does or would ever want to play.
The rest of the list, ranging from "Playable with major irritations" to "May install but there is no gameplay", down to "Does not install and does not work" contains, at last inspection, around 591 titles, or more than twice the amount of working titles. Take from that what you will. If all you want to play is games on their "5" or "4" lists, then it may be worth it to you.
And finally, how much do you have to pay for it?
$5 per month with three month minimum for access to updated binaries of the software. I believe only the subscription version contains code to work with stuff like special CD copy protection, but that may be different now - I subscribed a couple years back, and cancelled my subscription when I couldn't get any game I owned working to satisfaction.
And yes, if someone is looking at my post history, this is stuff I posted a few weeks ago.
Come on, if you can't believe that people grow out of some things, then maybe you haven't grown up yet either.
I guess not. And judging from the attitudes of many so-called "mature" citizens, I think i'm better for it.
I liked the cartoony graphics as a kid, but now it's just tired and hackneyed.
But all the dark, gory, or ultraviolent games aren't, right? Please.
The odd game with cartoon graphics is fine, but with nintendo, that's all they fucking do!
Heaven forbid a game doesn't have large amounts of blood, violent deaths, near-naked women in CG movies, etc. Nintendo concentrates on gameplay over fluff and gore, and that's the way many people like it.
And how many times do they have to do the same damned game? Donkey kong, zelda, mario, metroid... It's worse than final fantasy already..
Again, that's what people like. There's plenty else to play besides Nintendo's main franchises, though, at least if you're not intentionally blinding yourself to what's out there.
Windwaker was so excessively cartoony that I think most people over ten years old would be embarassed to be seen playing it by their peers.
or their unnecessarily cartoony, and cute, thus offending 2/3 of their user base
So that's why it sold something like a mere 1.5 million copies in the US, then?
I think i've lost track of how many times i've linked to this comic, but it's appropriate yet again:
Playing a game with "cartoony" graphics has no bearing on someone as a mature person, so get over it!
Slight inaccuracies the emulator(s) may have, but they're still worlds better than most of the collections/re-releases out for consoles these days.
The Gamecube version of Namco Museum comes to mind - for some reason, even at the largest display mode, all the games (except Pole Position and the original Galaga) are at about 80-90% of original size on the screen, not to mention being rather fuzzy. In contrast, I can fire up MAME and play all of them on my monitor with the correct sizes and resolution.
It's nice that you can restore and sell cabinets, but not everyone has the extra cash to spend on buying them in the first place, not to mention the skill to restore them.
Emulators are really the closest the majority of gamers can get to the originals, and I would hazard a guess that it's close enough for many.
Ya see, this is the problem. No "normal" user is going to want to use command-line tools like this to burn CDs.
They want to pick tracks from a graphical file manager, hit "burn", and have a fnished CD 10 minutes later.
And why shouldn't they? Though i'm sure someone will try to prove me wrong within minutes of posting this, there's really no reason to have a friendlier interface than the command line for things like this, assuming it's done fairly cleanly. Eschewing graphics in lieu of (percieved) performance increases is all well and good, but not if it locks out potential users.
Such as?
Pretty much every game ever made, except for the Unreal series, Quake 3, and a relative handful of other titles. A quick eyeball of the listings in the Macintosh section at www.gamefaqs.com suggests probably a couple hundred titles available, with most being fairly old. Compared with the amount of games available as Windows-only, Mac support is only a drop in the bucket. *nix support is even worse...Even with WINE, I think the last time I tried to do a count, there was something like twice the amount of non-working titles as those that were.
As for non-gaming software, I agree that I may have less of a case there, but my original post was centered on gaming, and there I stay. Just from my personal knowledge though, the Mac is pretty strong in the area of office and design software, but beyond that I don't really know. *nix is less sure, relying more on stuff like WINE/Crossover. Feel free to fill me in on specifics if you like, but i'm not going to hunt down a complete list for you.
As I stated before, anyway, many people use their systems for entertainment, and switching to a platform that doesn't support many options for that entertainment will severely limit things.
Come on x86ers, save up for a Mac (even a used one) and get more stuff done more enjoyably. If you're going to spend $ on new hardware (which Longhorn will surely require for 95% of the pop.), don't run the risk of it not working with your setup.. and you can still run *nix or a BSD.
No.
Y'see, silly as it may sound, many of us "x86ers" have games that either run in an inferior fashion or not at all on a *nix/BSD system.
More people use their systems for entertainment than you might think, and until Mac and *nix proponents stop thinking that all anybody might ever want to do is development, web browsing, or email - alternatives to Windows will not take off among many (if not all) home users.
The arrogance many Mac/*nix users seem to have is unbelieveable, assuming that everyone should be able to switch platforms and be perfectly fine - who cares about the gigantic amount of purchased Windows software out there with no alternate versions, right?
Move to Linux and you'll see ;). Simply because my computer is doing heavy, CPU intensive stuff in the background doesn't hurt my desktop experience in any way, at least if I was smart enough to use "nice -n 19 make" to start the compile.
:) And on a clunky old P3, no less.
Actually, my system is dual-boot with Redhat 9 and Win XP Pro at the moment. But anyway, I do agree. My point in the original post was that if you're obsessively worried about something taking up CPU time while you're compiling, why are you running anything, least of all Flash content? I'm not necessarily agreeing, just fitting the argument to the way Via Patrino seems to feel.
Personally, I have no qualms about running everything including the kitchen sink at once - if a compile or movie encoding or something is going to take a while, there's always something else to work on while it finishes.
I guess that's the difference between Windows and a multitasking OS...
Not sure who you're responding to here, but just to be clear again- I was referring to running under Windows when I mentioned being able to run a million n' a half things with no slowdown
Gundam Wing raises philosophical exposition to an artform.
Any battles that don't involve the opposing sides lecturing eachother for 10+ minutes on exactly why they hate each other and why the other side really has no purpose in life...Just don't do it for me after that series. Really.
Alright, first of all, i'm using Windows primarily, as most people viewing Flash content at the moment are. You seem to be using Linux, which is fine, but you are not typical, and Flash support under Linux is also rather less polished from what i've gathered.
It definitly won't choke any computer, but using 7% of my computer time, just because there's an ad playing (and I won't even look at it because it's in background), is not what I want when compiling some heavy program that will take hours.
If you're doing heavy compiling, I don't see why you'd want to be running anything else. I don't think Flash is unique in that respect. Further, the typical user and viewer of Flash content will not be doing CPU-intensive compiles while web browsing.
It may not be a lot for some, but for people which computer is always doing other stuff in background (aswell as their browser is always opened where you last stopped) or just waiting a java applet on the other window, it is.
I thought I implied this well enough...I generally have a large amount of background activity and/or open applications going, yet Flash does nothing to appreciably slow anything down. I don't think i'm uncommon in that I usually have several web windows open, an instant messanger, music playing, and whatnot.
I agree now that I shouldn't have used "sucks" (might be a strong word for some) but that's what I feel about it most of the time, and don't think my comment should be hidden for most of people ( tagged flamebait) just because of that.
Saying something "sucks" solely based on generalizations drawn from your non-typical experiences would seem like flamebait/trolling of some sort to me. Not horrible, to be sure, but still.
Something that endless consume your processor speed (like a little movie) while you're reading a text or with a lot of tabs/windows open, it's definitly not the way I want to expend my processor time.
I think you may have some other problems, if you can't play a Flash movie without crushing your performance. As I type this, I have an 800x600 Flash movie playing, 5 other instances (and probably 15 tabs) of Firefox running, as well as an active connection to a busy MUD, AIM, etc....With no appreciable slowdown at all. And this is on a 4 year-old P3 667.
As others have said above me, the problem is not with Flash itself, but with how people use it. Yes, it can be used to make annoying ads and interfaces, but it can also be used to make some pretty damn neat things as well.
In Star Trek, everyone has neatly groomed hair and they're always nice to each other. Firefly seemed to be about normal, flawed people who happen to fly around in space.
Try watching Deep Space 9. I love ST:NG, to be sure, but DS9 is even better. And more of a dark and gritty feel to it, with characters that don't always get along.
Actually, Zelda DX(Otherwise known as The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX) is a colorized version of the Gameboy game Link's Awakening from 1994, with a bit of extra stuff added.
Maybe you should watch a little closer the next time she plays it.
A joke it may be, but it's worn out, and i'm perfectly within my rights to find anyone who makes it in need of a better class of humor.
What I find ironic, however, is how someone can be roasted alive if they tried saying the same types of things about another country, or perhaps Europe in general. But if it's the US, it's fine, because we're all overweight hamburger addicts that think we're the center of the universe, and anyway, they're really just joking, so don't get mad, etc.
Maybe I just haven't had your worldly experience, but I still find that rubbish rather insulting, even disguised as jokes.
You're certainly entitled to your own opinion, though. Just remember that I am as well. And in any case, i'm done with this thread.
Thanks for lowering my opinion of (most) those outside the US by yet another notch. Bashing anyone or anything based on idiotic stereotypes only makes you look even worse than they are.
In short, grow up.
Sorry, I missed 15 Japanese-only games that 90% of past, present, or future US PS1/PS2 owners probably don't even know exist.
And since this story deals with the US market...Unless you're a rabid importer of Japanese titles, that does absolutely nothing to invalidate the points raised in my original post. Nice job nit-picking, though, I guess i'm not perfect after all.
Because the PS1 is almost 10 years old at this point, and the PS2 can play every PS1 game ever made.
Assuming they can afford one, and there's at least some PS2 games that someone likes, why would they be buying a PS1 when they could get a PS2 and have the best of both worlds? And even then, i've heard of plenty of people that use their PS2's largely for playing old PS1 games.
Use your head, instead of trying to sound superior.