I mean seriously, as a band, how could you get a bunch of other bands, fans and other totally random people to listen to your musc??? Like seriously, it's the lamest site on the Intertron. *Especially* if you write shitty music, and don't want anyone to listen.
Totally lame. Avoid it at all costs.
You have much better things to do with you time...
Of course, his version of 'Beyond Good and Evail' tanked too. He had to self publish, be ignored and live in squalor for years after writing it (not that many philosophers have every lived like rockstars, or game deveopers in in the past). Funny though, I have a copy sitting right beside me, but I'm sure he see's no royalties from it.
Something new, intersting and unique always has first sell problems. If it really was as amazing as what they say, it will be found in the future and carried forward as a classic; too bad the developers won't know about it and it might take a good 100 years until the copyright expires and somebody can take the classic and promote it and make thier fortune off such a great piece of work.
Of course the game could have tanked because it sucked, but I have no idea. I don't even play games anymore, but the comments from the description sound interesting, so probably would have given it a chance, if only for it's desgin and originality. Of course, I kinda like giving things a chance that way.
This is an interesting take on something that I find quite inspiriing, where one removes the human from the creation process and replaces the randomness of their actions with some other form of generator (spam email ins this case, or a call to random() in the case of a number of my current works) and observes what results. It moves the artist from creator to judge or producer; the program has no idea whether what it has done is good and it would be almost impossible to write a program to recognize "good art", but as humans we are very capapble of making such a decision very quickly given our ability to solve NP problems almost instantly at times.
I write programs that generate art, and I choose what's good or not to represent myself in artwork. I wrote the programs along the lines of how I would make art, let it run and pick the best pieces. I am still nagged with a bit of guilt about whether I created them or not, but I would say that I did, because without my work the works would never have existed, so I am comfortable with saying that I created them.
Someone above said this is not artwork due to a couple of things, one of them being that true art work requires emotion during it's creation; I beg to differ in that true artwork *invokes* some sort of emotional response in the viewer and the emotions or lack there of during it's creation are somewhat irrelevant (although, granted, I have made some pretty amazing art when trying to get some emotions out). The computer that generates the pieces doesn't have emotions, but if the piece it makes creates emotions, then I would say that yes it is art, and the program that created it...well, I'm not quite sure what to call that, but I've been liking the term mini-soul lately.
A shameless plug for some of my work that's been made along similar lines as this would be my
Programmed Piano EP which consists of 4 songs played by computer programs and my Genpaper series which were image compositions created programmatically using a shell script.
The main point of these works was to test a theory of mine that in the end we are all just random number generators our thermodynamic core, but that randomness is filtered amd amplified through various means and processes and as such we then become *us* to the world. These works used filtered random numbers to create art in ways that I would create art; in effect I created a part of myself inside the computer to do work for me, but I would never claim that I could create the same pieces as the programs did, but they sure were a lot faster and ended up being pretty good at what they did.
Not bad for programs less than 10-20 lines long. Hopefully this was somewhat cohoerent since I'm in a pre-coffee state of mind.
Re:Some thoughts about myspace bashing on slashdot
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Holy crap, and here I thought I was the only one saying the exact same things...
MySpace is cool. It's got criical mass, it's free promotion and it's actually a pretty fun game to play. Of course there will always be haters, but we'll never be able to shut them up, so in the end, you really just have to ignore them. Power to the people and all that jazz, but don't knock it until you try it.
the entertainment of the thinker is thinking. not much else is needed, and what is can be gotten for free.
spending time thinking for free is personal investment that cannot be measured in terms of financial reward. payment is generally required to make people do things that they would not think about if they were not getting paid. finding something that you will do for free will replace your need for monetary and physical (and new digital) needs.
granted, i am addicted to researching software, but in this world, all software i need for my research is free (as in open, as in, i won't be using something if i can't look at the source). the things i wanted before weren't free, but i couldn't have them if i did what i wanted to do, so instead of want *them*, i just changed what i wanted, and found that i didn't miss the originals anyways.
Get a day job. That's what i had to do. It's actually quite difficult to just think all the time, and a day job gives one's mind a break as well as a chance to interact with real-life human beings, which although are generally quite different than the 'thinker' types, are nonetheless rather interesting to be around sometimes.
Being a chef at a restaurant make great day job, since it is not mentally taxing, you get some physical yet non-physically dangerous labour, and...well..free food:)
The average Joe is more interested in the latest sports scores than the latest scientific developments. On top of that, ask the average person on the street who's worth more money, Michael Jordan or Bill Gates, and a surprising amount of people would say Michael Jordan...
Always remember that half the population has an IQ below average.
For a sound editor, I would recommend rezound. It has all the features that you could ask for of a professional sound editor, with a pretty interesting interface to boot.
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Although I'm already a huge gmail fan, you might hav e noticed that hotmail has 2 gig storage on thier freemail acounts?
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> their non-voting, non-dividend paying stock
hmmm...and who has ever heard of the microsoft millionaire...
ID is the one exception in the industry of a company that has given out thier source code. I wish that I had a bunch of source to learn from when I was learning to write games (although it takes many years of programming to learn how to read code rather than write it, so it probably wouldn't have been much help). Code is only useful as long as it is used, and games are only useful as long as they are being sold. www.the-underdogs.org
Do you really think so? I feel that the types of people that run and use linux are totally adverse to paying for software in any way, games or not. Loki today would be like the Loki of yesterday; tying for a great ideal but failing miserably because of us types that use open source software...
Tainting the kernel has nothing to do with Nvidia. It has to do with the kernel developers that refuse to let closed source deveopers write drivers for the linux kernel. I'm not too sure about which side I'm on (since I like drivers for the hardware that I have no matter who they are written by) but you should direct the problem to its origin...
I recently finished writing a drop in replacement for qmail-smtpd that did just that plus a load of more checks. Google for 'magic-smtpd' if you're interested.
And the problem with having astronauts from other countries is? Of course people from other countries would be "allowed" to go on the mission. Well, in an ideal world, but i'm sure this is not the one that we live in...
Slashdot Mirror
I guess sarcasm is dead.
Oh well, my hits went through the roof.
www.myspace.com/kruhft
Me three.
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I mean seriously, as a band, how could you get a bunch of other bands, fans and other totally random people to listen to your musc??? Like seriously, it's the lamest site on the Intertron. *Especially* if you write shitty music, and don't want anyone to listen.
Totally lame. Avoid it at all costs.
You have much better things to do with you time...
I mean, I'm not even 14...
Don't ever goto MySpace. Seriously.
http://www.myspace.com/kruhft
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...philosopher than game designer?
Of course, his version of 'Beyond Good and Evail' tanked too. He had to self publish, be ignored and live in squalor for years after writing it (not that many philosophers have every lived like rockstars, or game deveopers in in the past). Funny though, I have a copy sitting right beside me, but I'm sure he see's no royalties from it.
Something new, intersting and unique always has first sell problems. If it really was as amazing as what they say, it will be found in the future and carried forward as a classic; too bad the developers won't know about it and it might take a good 100 years until the copyright expires and somebody can take the classic and promote it and make thier fortune off such a great piece of work.
Of course the game could have tanked because it sucked, but I have no idea. I don't even play games anymore, but the comments from the description sound interesting, so probably would have given it a chance, if only for it's desgin and originality. Of course, I kinda like giving things a chance that way.
> 1. Actuarial Science
Jesus, could we PLEASE stop calling accouting this.
Just because you give it a different name, doesn't make it any better.
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I write programs that generate art, and I choose what's good or not to represent myself in artwork. I wrote the programs along the lines of how I would make art, let it run and pick the best pieces. I am still nagged with a bit of guilt about whether I created them or not, but I would say that I did, because without my work the works would never have existed, so I am comfortable with saying that I created them.
Someone above said this is not artwork due to a couple of things, one of them being that true art work requires emotion during it's creation; I beg to differ in that true artwork *invokes* some sort of emotional response in the viewer and the emotions or lack there of during it's creation are somewhat irrelevant (although, granted, I have made some pretty amazing art when trying to get some emotions out). The computer that generates the pieces doesn't have emotions, but if the piece it makes creates emotions, then I would say that yes it is art, and the program that created it...well, I'm not quite sure what to call that, but I've been liking the term mini-soul lately.
A shameless plug for some of my work that's been made along similar lines as this would be my Programmed Piano EP which consists of 4 songs played by computer programs and my Genpaper series which were image compositions created programmatically using a shell script.
The main point of these works was to test a theory of mine that in the end we are all just random number generators our thermodynamic core, but that randomness is filtered amd amplified through various means and processes and as such we then become *us* to the world. These works used filtered random numbers to create art in ways that I would create art; in effect I created a part of myself inside the computer to do work for me, but I would never claim that I could create the same pieces as the programs did, but they sure were a lot faster and ended up being pretty good at what they did.
Not bad for programs less than 10-20 lines long. Hopefully this was somewhat cohoerent since I'm in a pre-coffee state of mind.
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www.myspace.com/kruhft GOdisaDM LP coming very soon.
MySpace is cool. It's got criical mass, it's free promotion and it's actually a pretty fun game to play. Of course there will always be haters, but we'll never be able to shut them up, so in the end, you really just have to ignore them. Power to the people and all that jazz, but don't knock it until you try it.
www.myspace.com/kruhft
And those of us that still like to use console browsers like emacs-w3m...
Save the escaping for prisoners (well, some if it at least) :
sed -i.BAK -r 's|(http://192/\.168\.0)\.2|\1.3|' `find . -iname "*.htm"`
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the entertainment of the thinker is thinking. not much else is needed, and what is can be gotten for free.
spending time thinking for free is personal investment that cannot be measured in terms of financial reward. payment is generally required to make people do things that they would not think about if they were not getting paid. finding something that you will do for free will replace your need for monetary and physical (and new digital) needs.
granted, i am addicted to researching software, but in this world, all software i need for my research is free (as in open, as in, i won't be using something if i can't look at the source). the things i wanted before weren't free, but i couldn't have them if i did what i wanted to do, so instead of want *them*, i just changed what i wanted, and found that i didn't miss the originals anyways.
stofftrieb is killing society.
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Get a day job. That's what i had to do. It's actually quite difficult to just think all the time, and a day job gives one's mind a break as well as a chance to interact with real-life human beings, which although are generally quite different than the 'thinker' types, are nonetheless rather interesting to be around sometimes.
:)
Being a chef at a restaurant make great day job, since it is not mentally taxing, you get some physical yet non-physically dangerous labour, and...well..free food
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True research in mathematics and computational science does not require money, just time to think.
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Always remember that half the population has an IQ below average.
For a sound editor, I would recommend rezound. It has all the features that you could ask for of a professional sound editor, with a pretty interesting interface to boot.
Although I'm already a huge gmail fan, you might hav e noticed that hotmail has 2 gig storage on thier freemail acounts?
> their non-voting, non-dividend paying stock
hmmm...and who has ever heard of the microsoft millionaire...
I think you might be either to young to post or an idoit. Please reply for confirmation.
ID is the one exception in the industry of a company that has given out thier source code. I wish that I had a bunch of source to learn from when I was learning to write games (although it takes many years of programming to learn how to read code rather than write it, so it probably wouldn't have been much help). Code is only useful as long as it is used, and games are only useful as long as they are being sold. www.the-underdogs.org
Do you really think so? I feel that the types of people that run and use linux are totally adverse to paying for software in any way, games or not. Loki today would be like the Loki of yesterday; tying for a great ideal but failing miserably because of us types that use open source software...
Tainting the kernel has nothing to do with Nvidia. It has to do with the kernel developers that refuse to let closed source deveopers write drivers for the linux kernel. I'm not too sure about which side I'm on (since I like drivers for the hardware that I have no matter who they are written by) but you should direct the problem to its origin...
Nice astroturf, loser.
10 years of unix experience my ass.
No. Vancouver, BC.
One way to get your stuff noticed is to embed some information in the file names, such as the genre or bands you may sound similar to.
With electronic music, there are so many sub-genres that people will search for 'techno' or 'idm', causing your stuff to pop up and get noticed.
I recently finished writing a drop in replacement for qmail-smtpd that did just that plus a load of more checks. Google for 'magic-smtpd' if you're interested.
And the problem with having astronauts from other countries is? Of course people from other countries would be "allowed" to go on the mission. Well, in an ideal world, but i'm sure this is not the one that we live in...