your first paragraph has little to do with your 2nd paragraph; you fail at the "logic" you claim to support.
Congress *isn't* making a law that establishes a religion. However, if you think that the original writers had any idea in their head that a person could stop being the person they are and do things as a non-them, or that religious people should have no say in government, then you're a straight-up idiot.
You might want to reconsider getting a real education, or discontinuing trying to figure this sort of thing out, if you really think that the Framers intended for people who are religious to not be involved in government.
wow, this is the first time I've ever seen this extraordinarily insightful analysis of our planet.
Tell ya what. If you want something different, "be the change you want to see in the world" (Ghandi). Think things are gross? Really? Then why do you perpetuate those things?
it would be if there were uses for Glider that are determined to be legally legit. 99% of the time, rifles are used for things that are completely legal. 100% of the time, Glider was not. There is a substantial difference - one of which you are well aware, but hey - I'll answer your silly question regardless.
for many people, calling technical support and spending a couple hours dealing with them just to work through some stupid issue has a higher opportunity cost than just buying new versions of the software and not using the service that caused the problem. IE - buying media, discontinuing the use of steam from there forward. How much does the game cost, $40? $50? You couldn't pay me $50 to make a support call to someone. It's not worth the frustration, the time, the annoyance. Just cut losses and move on, at that point. It's why I don't buy HP shit - horrible tech support, coupled with systems that often need support.
and your dog wants you to know that your idea that you can speak for it on the basis of you "owning" it in a primitive social activity that should be called kidnapping or slavery is also species-ism.;)
carbon sequestering doesn't work, it just puts off the problem for someone else to worry about, and wrecks an environment not designed to deal with the additional carbon.
But shoving the carbon into a black hole...now, there's an idea! Sequestering is for the weak and technologically-impaired, we have black holes at our disposal!
(names changed to protect the me)
[dazed1@someplace]:/tmp > ls -al/dev/pts/20
crw------- 1 dazed1 tty 136, 20 Nov 5 17:37/dev/pts/20
[dazed1@someplace]:/tmp > mesg y
[dazed1@someplace]:/tmp > ls -al/dev/pts/20
crw--w---- 1 dazed1 tty 136, 20 Nov 5 17:37/dev/pts/20
Why in the WORLD would you want your tty to be writable by anyone other than yourself?
Andrew Lahde obviously hasn't a clue about OSS. First, Linus isn't a "benevolent dictator" of OSS; at most, he's the ruler-via-merit of Linux, specifically, not OSS in general. OSS doesn't have a ruler of any sort these days, but until probably a couple years or so ago that would have been RMS - not Linus. "Linux" can be replaced by any number of things (FreeBSD, OS/X, Solaris, HP-UX, Windows, etc etc) and still use the majority of the rest of the OSS's community's flagship products.
And are we really, after what the last few weeks have shown us, calling any damn financial elite "benevolent" at this point? Soros in particular has been on a mad power trip for a few years now, doing what I can only hope he thinks is the "right thing," but... Had Linus gone on the power trip Soros has been on, we would have replaced him by now. See, that's the difference between a OSS project that can be easily forked, and a "benevolent dictator" - we can't fork a government. I have to say though that given Soros' misguided attempts to "promote democracy" I find it fittingly ironic that someone would suggest him as a dictator. I personally use the OSS community as an example of why, in the future, when we are much more evolved socially than we are now, true communism would not only work but prosper. That being the case, communism (the only sort of example OSS can provide) isn't a method of rulership, it's a financial system. Governments protect financial systems, that doesn't mean they are the financial system (though they are always deeply entwined). One could have a democratic state with a traditional, market, command, or mixed economic system. But since, as I mentioned, one can't fork a government...the strength of OSS doesn't remotely apply (any such easily replaceable government would be easily removed by external forces too, and wouldn't have lasted long enough to piss off their constituents enough for them to have "forked" it).
full charge costs between $1-2 (depending on electricity costs in your area), and will take you 200 miles. And the 130 isn't representative either; on long term trips with no stopping, the mileage goes up from there (though not to 300). On short trips, you're mostly electric. If you burn out the charge and aren't just cruising, then yeah...mileage goes down fast. But last I checked, $1 of gas couldn't take you 200 miles anyway...
1 person? no space?
while it's not a fucking SUV, 90% of the asses I pass on the freeways only have 1 person in their car. The Aptera seats 2 adults, plus has space for a child seat. Additionally, there is actually quite a bit of storage. You should try, I dunno, actually looking at info on something before you spout BS about it. Right on aptera.com is a demonstration of it fiting a couple snowboards, a surfboard, and etc all in at once.
Is it an SUV? No, but those are what the hell the problem is. It is purposefully/not/ that.
But eh, I'm biased, I suppose...Aptera reservation #1397. From their website:
"What is the seating and cargo space?
The Aptera has "two plus one" seating allowing plenty of room for driver and passenger while an infant seat (newborn to age three) can be located in the middle behind the front seating. There is enough storage space to fit 15 bags of groceries, two full-size golf club bags or even a couple of seven foot surf boards. "
I went and got the pvp healing gear for paladins, so that I could go on raids as a healer, get the tier tokens, and then turn them in for tanking gear.
And yet, every single time Blizz mentions Deathknights, they talk about how there was a lack of tanks...it's not because of a lack of tank classes or people wanting to tank, Blizz!
Eh, I have fun anyway. It would be as if my wife decided missionary was called doggy, and doggy missionary - I'd disagree with her on the whats and hows, but that wouldn't keep me from participating!
no, but you're certainly the retard that didn't actually read what I was saying in my post.
Solutions should actually solve the problem they were intended to solve. The deathknight class will have no real long-term impact on the number of tanks. Making new plans, and raising the level cap to 80, has nothing to do with the reason tanks were hard to find in BC.
the more often one swings, the more often one is susceptible to things that the boss does when it gets hit. Better to just let them get hit by consecrate;)
yes, but in every statement they make about the Deathknight, they say one of the primary design intentions for the class was to address the lack of people playing tanks.
The point I'm trying to make, obviously unsuccessfully, is that it wasn't a lack of classes, or a lack of people wanting to tank, it was a gear problem.
Perhaps I'm just trying to apply basic engineering principles to what is just a marketing problem; when solving for a problem, one should ensure that the solution actually addresses, well, the problem. Were they to have made no other changes, and done nothing other than introduce the Deathknight class, the problem of a lack of people playing tanks would have been unchanged. Were they to have not introduced the deathknight class, and merely made the other changes that they made, then there would be less of a problem for tanks. I'm not really all that impressed with the blacksmithing gear in WotLK either, but at least it's/available/; there's nothing I would have made myself (and I do have 375 blacksmithing) in my 60s, and there's not a single bit of blacksmithing tankadin gear at 70 that makes sense; any slots that actually have options, those same slots are easily filled with drops. Why do the extreme expense of blacksmithing at all?
Gruuls? Who wants to drag a tankadin along that can't yet tank that instance, for a 25-man raid that lasts 1/4 of the time it takes to just organize it? making the entry-level item come from something that hits so damn hard, and is a 25-man raid with only one real boss...thus my point. Gear for a tank, esp a tankadin, is phenomenally more difficult to get than gear for anything else.
If a dps is undergeared, they can still contribute, and the raid will do fine. If a healer is undergeared, just have an extra healer. If a tank is undergeared, the entire raid wipes. Thus, the fact that blacksmithing in BC sucks (even with 50k gold and stacks of every mat imaginable, I wouldn't be able to make anything useful) and drops are so spotty, is *why tanks are hard to get*. It's not a lack of tank classes.:)
The complaint Blizzard was addressing is that there aren't enough people playing tanks in *BC*. That we can get to 80 now, and have new abilities now, has nothing to do with what the problem *was*.
There wasn't a lack of people wanting to play tanks...or a lack of tank classes...there was a lack of ways to get gear.
Of/course/ it will change for WotLK. It's just that when you're trying to solve for a problem, you should address what is actually causing the problem. The problem could have been fixed with no new added classes, just by making blacksmithing actually worth something, and creating new drops for some of the harder to fill slots (like shoulders).
I spoke to tier drops - I had bad luck for a long time, until eventually getting some. As for the warlord shoulders - parry for a paladin tank is bad news. As a paladin tank (at least, prior to today...) you don't actually want to be swinging that often. High parry is a good way to set off procs on bosses. Paladin tanks (prior to today) got almost none of their threat from melee "white" - it was all from spell.
I think you're missing the point, either way. The point is in the subject line;) The problem was never a lack of classes able to tank, or a lack of people wanting to tank, it is the lack of ability to get decent gear. I note that one of your suggestions for a green replacement is...green. Yet by the time my spriest was 70, he already had tailoring 375, and already had enough shadowweave (with the help of friends...) to make his frozen shadowweave set. A Belt of blasting and spellstrike hood later, and he was almost completely ready for whatever I wanted to do with him.
BTW - having 41 def on the shoulders allowed me to not need as much def on other items - I could concentrate on raising my spell damage (for aggro) and stamina. They were actually very hard to replace, in the end. If blacksmithing for armor were half as useful as tailoring is for any caster, I wouldn't have had that problem. There's a huge disparity between crafted plate and crafted leather/cloth...coupled with a huge disparity in plate drops and anything else. *that* is the problem...not a lack of tank classes.
They said they wanted to help the shortage of tanks by creating another class that could fill the role.
Hey Blizzard, got a question for you. Lets say a prot paladin reaches lvl70. He hasn't been raiding T6 yet - hell, he's not even raiding T4 yet.
What the hell is he supposed to use for shoulders? There's a reason every bit of gear I had was purple other than my green shoulders "of defense" which I eventually only replaced because I did finally get a tier drop (t5, which wasn't great anyway).
As a contrast, I had stopped playing my shadow priest, and started back up after a few months of not playing him. He was level 49. 3 weeks later I was wearing all purple at lvl70. How? I was able to make most of my own gear with tailoring.
Blacksmithing, esp for armor, has been a complete joke for BC. Plate drops have been a joke, esp for certain slots (like shoulders). It's a huge investment in time just to get a functional set of armor for a tank, esp paladins. The problem was never, ever, a lack of classes. It was a lack of gear.
the cap for all rolls is based on the idea that outcomes are determined on a random 100-sided die.
Defense mod = 0.04 * (defense - (350 + (5 * mob level delta)) Example: for a lvl70 player against a lvl73 mob, that's (defense - 365).
The table looks like this: Miss = base 5% + (defense mod) Parry = stat mods + (defense mod) Dodge = stat mods + (defense mod) Block = stat mods + (defense mod) Crit = 5% - (defense mod) - (resil mod) crush = (5 * (mob level delta)) - (defense mod) Hit = (remainder, but 1% minimum)
So that "1%" changes your dodge line. It's not a 1% change to your chance to dodge, what it does is make an additional 1% of all attacks become dodges.
As a tank, the goal is to become "uncrushable" and "uncritable" which happens by using up all the stuff on top, taking crit and crush "off the table" since Blizzard set the table up to make anything past 100% be ignored. So, make miss 10%, parry 15%, dodge 15%, and block 60% and tada...you can't be crit or crushed.
So that 1% doesn't sound like a lot to non-tanks, but damn is it...
or, you could just turn the damn desktop PC off when you're not using it anymore, and stop pretending the 30 seconds it takes for it to boot is somehow destroying your life. "Hibernate" does not mean "use no electricity."
I don't collect movies, but if I did, I would be most concerned that chip based storage technology is going to overtake the clunky optical-mechanical drives and leave me with a (yet again) obsolete media library.
And if you *did* collect movies, and knew what you were doing, you'd know that flash drives don't retain data all that terribly long (at least, not yet). Unless you plug them in every once in a while, you're gona start losing bits.
I have movies on my shelf I haven't watched in a couple years. That doesn't mean I won't be in the mood to watch them at some point. Would suck if I stuck it in a player only to find the storage media had failed.
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the area was below sea level, which means there was likely plenty of streams, rivers, etc. A sea is dangerous; a river, much less so.
thank you for a very excellent example of an anecdote.
On the flip, I've experienced an increased security in gated communities. But obviously, ymmv.
your first paragraph has little to do with your 2nd paragraph; you fail at the "logic" you claim to support.
Congress *isn't* making a law that establishes a religion. However, if you think that the original writers had any idea in their head that a person could stop being the person they are and do things as a non-them, or that religious people should have no say in government, then you're a straight-up idiot.
You might want to reconsider getting a real education, or discontinuing trying to figure this sort of thing out, if you really think that the Framers intended for people who are religious to not be involved in government.
wow, this is the first time I've ever seen this extraordinarily insightful analysis of our planet.
Tell ya what. If you want something different, "be the change you want to see in the world" (Ghandi). Think things are gross? Really? Then why do you perpetuate those things?
it would be if there were uses for Glider that are determined to be legally legit. 99% of the time, rifles are used for things that are completely legal. 100% of the time, Glider was not. There is a substantial difference - one of which you are well aware, but hey - I'll answer your silly question regardless.
touché, touché...
for many people, calling technical support and spending a couple hours dealing with them just to work through some stupid issue has a higher opportunity cost than just buying new versions of the software and not using the service that caused the problem. IE - buying media, discontinuing the use of steam from there forward. How much does the game cost, $40? $50? You couldn't pay me $50 to make a support call to someone. It's not worth the frustration, the time, the annoyance. Just cut losses and move on, at that point. It's why I don't buy HP shit - horrible tech support, coupled with systems that often need support.
and your dog wants you to know that your idea that you can speak for it on the basis of you "owning" it in a primitive social activity that should be called kidnapping or slavery is also species-ism. ;)
carbon sequestering doesn't work, it just puts off the problem for someone else to worry about, and wrecks an environment not designed to deal with the additional carbon.
But shoving the carbon into a black hole...now, there's an idea! Sequestering is for the weak and technologically-impaired, we have black holes at our disposal!
$30B IT Stimulus Will Create Almost 1 Million Jobs
30B/1M = $30k....
were they talking about giving $30B more than once? Otherwise, isn't it a million $30k/yr jobs that last 1 year?
damn you slashdot and your space-destroying ways...
[dazed1@someplace]:/tmp > ls -al /dev/pts/20 /dev/pts/20 /dev/pts/20 /dev/pts/20
crw------- 1 dazed1 tty 136, 20 Nov 5 17:37
[dazed1@someplace]:/tmp > mesg y
[dazed1@someplace]:/tmp > ls -al
crw--w---- 1 dazed1 tty 136, 20 Nov 5 17:37
Why in the WORLD would you want your tty to be writable by anyone other than yourself?
(names changed to protect the me) [dazed1@someplace]:/tmp > ls -al /dev/pts/20
crw------- 1 dazed1 tty 136, 20 Nov 5 17:37 /dev/pts/20
[dazed1@someplace]:/tmp > mesg y
[dazed1@someplace]:/tmp > ls -al /dev/pts/20
crw--w---- 1 dazed1 tty 136, 20 Nov 5 17:37 /dev/pts/20
Why in the WORLD would you want your tty to be writable by anyone other than yourself?
Andrew Lahde obviously hasn't a clue about OSS. First, Linus isn't a "benevolent dictator" of OSS; at most, he's the ruler-via-merit of Linux, specifically, not OSS in general. OSS doesn't have a ruler of any sort these days, but until probably a couple years or so ago that would have been RMS - not Linus. "Linux" can be replaced by any number of things (FreeBSD, OS/X, Solaris, HP-UX, Windows, etc etc) and still use the majority of the rest of the OSS's community's flagship products. And are we really, after what the last few weeks have shown us, calling any damn financial elite "benevolent" at this point? Soros in particular has been on a mad power trip for a few years now, doing what I can only hope he thinks is the "right thing," but... Had Linus gone on the power trip Soros has been on, we would have replaced him by now. See, that's the difference between a OSS project that can be easily forked, and a "benevolent dictator" - we can't fork a government. I have to say though that given Soros' misguided attempts to "promote democracy" I find it fittingly ironic that someone would suggest him as a dictator. I personally use the OSS community as an example of why, in the future, when we are much more evolved socially than we are now, true communism would not only work but prosper. That being the case, communism (the only sort of example OSS can provide) isn't a method of rulership, it's a financial system. Governments protect financial systems, that doesn't mean they are the financial system (though they are always deeply entwined). One could have a democratic state with a traditional, market, command, or mixed economic system. But since, as I mentioned, one can't fork a government...the strength of OSS doesn't remotely apply (any such easily replaceable government would be easily removed by external forces too, and wouldn't have lasted long enough to piss off their constituents enough for them to have "forked" it).
"lying" is a bit of a mis-statement.
1 person? no space? while it's not a fucking SUV, 90% of the asses I pass on the freeways only have 1 person in their car. The Aptera seats 2 adults, plus has space for a child seat. Additionally, there is actually quite a bit of storage. You should try, I dunno, actually looking at info on something before you spout BS about it. Right on aptera.com is a demonstration of it fiting a couple snowboards, a surfboard, and etc all in at once. Is it an SUV? No, but those are what the hell the problem is. It is purposefully /not/ that.
But eh, I'm biased, I suppose...Aptera reservation #1397. From their website:
"What is the seating and cargo space?
The Aptera has "two plus one" seating allowing plenty of room for driver and passenger while an infant seat (newborn to age three) can be located in the middle behind the front seating. There is enough storage space to fit 15 bags of groceries, two full-size golf club bags or even a couple of seven foot surf boards. "
I went and got the pvp healing gear for paladins, so that I could go on raids as a healer, get the tier tokens, and then turn them in for tanking gear.
And yet, every single time Blizz mentions Deathknights, they talk about how there was a lack of tanks...it's not because of a lack of tank classes or people wanting to tank, Blizz!
Eh, I have fun anyway. It would be as if my wife decided missionary was called doggy, and doggy missionary - I'd disagree with her on the whats and hows, but that wouldn't keep me from participating!
no, but you're certainly the retard that didn't actually read what I was saying in my post.
Solutions should actually solve the problem they were intended to solve. The deathknight class will have no real long-term impact on the number of tanks. Making new plans, and raising the level cap to 80, has nothing to do with the reason tanks were hard to find in BC.
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the more often one swings, the more often one is susceptible to things that the boss does when it gets hit. Better to just let them get hit by consecrate ;)
yes, but in every statement they make about the Deathknight, they say one of the primary design intentions for the class was to address the lack of people playing tanks.
The point I'm trying to make, obviously unsuccessfully, is that it wasn't a lack of classes, or a lack of people wanting to tank, it was a gear problem.
Perhaps I'm just trying to apply basic engineering principles to what is just a marketing problem; when solving for a problem, one should ensure that the solution actually addresses, well, the problem. Were they to have made no other changes, and done nothing other than introduce the Deathknight class, the problem of a lack of people playing tanks would have been unchanged. Were they to have not introduced the deathknight class, and merely made the other changes that they made, then there would be less of a problem for tanks. I'm not really all that impressed with the blacksmithing gear in WotLK either, but at least it's /available/; there's nothing I would have made myself (and I do have 375 blacksmithing) in my 60s, and there's not a single bit of blacksmithing tankadin gear at 70 that makes sense; any slots that actually have options, those same slots are easily filled with drops. Why do the extreme expense of blacksmithing at all?
Gruuls? Who wants to drag a tankadin along that can't yet tank that instance, for a 25-man raid that lasts 1/4 of the time it takes to just organize it? making the entry-level item come from something that hits so damn hard, and is a 25-man raid with only one real boss...thus my point. Gear for a tank, esp a tankadin, is phenomenally more difficult to get than gear for anything else.
If a dps is undergeared, they can still contribute, and the raid will do fine. If a healer is undergeared, just have an extra healer. If a tank is undergeared, the entire raid wipes. Thus, the fact that blacksmithing in BC sucks (even with 50k gold and stacks of every mat imaginable, I wouldn't be able to make anything useful) and drops are so spotty, is *why tanks are hard to get*. It's not a lack of tank classes. :)
*sigh*
The complaint Blizzard was addressing is that there aren't enough people playing tanks in *BC*. That we can get to 80 now, and have new abilities now, has nothing to do with what the problem *was*.
There wasn't a lack of people wanting to play tanks...or a lack of tank classes...there was a lack of ways to get gear.
Of /course/ it will change for WotLK. It's just that when you're trying to solve for a problem, you should address what is actually causing the problem. The problem could have been fixed with no new added classes, just by making blacksmithing actually worth something, and creating new drops for some of the harder to fill slots (like shoulders).
I spoke to tier drops - I had bad luck for a long time, until eventually getting some. As for the warlord shoulders - parry for a paladin tank is bad news. As a paladin tank (at least, prior to today...) you don't actually want to be swinging that often. High parry is a good way to set off procs on bosses. Paladin tanks (prior to today) got almost none of their threat from melee "white" - it was all from spell.
I think you're missing the point, either way. The point is in the subject line ;) The problem was never a lack of classes able to tank, or a lack of people wanting to tank, it is the lack of ability to get decent gear. I note that one of your suggestions for a green replacement is...green. Yet by the time my spriest was 70, he already had tailoring 375, and already had enough shadowweave (with the help of friends...) to make his frozen shadowweave set. A Belt of blasting and spellstrike hood later, and he was almost completely ready for whatever I wanted to do with him.
BTW - having 41 def on the shoulders allowed me to not need as much def on other items - I could concentrate on raising my spell damage (for aggro) and stamina. They were actually very hard to replace, in the end. If blacksmithing for armor were half as useful as tailoring is for any caster, I wouldn't have had that problem. There's a huge disparity between crafted plate and crafted leather/cloth...coupled with a huge disparity in plate drops and anything else. *that* is the problem...not a lack of tank classes.
They said they wanted to help the shortage of tanks by creating another class that could fill the role. Hey Blizzard, got a question for you. Lets say a prot paladin reaches lvl70. He hasn't been raiding T6 yet - hell, he's not even raiding T4 yet. What the hell is he supposed to use for shoulders? There's a reason every bit of gear I had was purple other than my green shoulders "of defense" which I eventually only replaced because I did finally get a tier drop (t5, which wasn't great anyway). As a contrast, I had stopped playing my shadow priest, and started back up after a few months of not playing him. He was level 49. 3 weeks later I was wearing all purple at lvl70. How? I was able to make most of my own gear with tailoring. Blacksmithing, esp for armor, has been a complete joke for BC. Plate drops have been a joke, esp for certain slots (like shoulders). It's a huge investment in time just to get a functional set of armor for a tank, esp paladins. The problem was never, ever, a lack of classes. It was a lack of gear.
the cap for all rolls is based on the idea that outcomes are determined on a random 100-sided die.
Defense mod = 0.04 * (defense - (350 + (5 * mob level delta))
Example: for a lvl70 player against a lvl73 mob, that's (defense - 365).
The table looks like this:
Miss = base 5% + (defense mod)
Parry = stat mods + (defense mod)
Dodge = stat mods + (defense mod)
Block = stat mods + (defense mod)
Crit = 5% - (defense mod) - (resil mod)
crush = (5 * (mob level delta)) - (defense mod)
Hit = (remainder, but 1% minimum)
So that "1%" changes your dodge line. It's not a 1% change to your chance to dodge, what it does is make an additional 1% of all attacks become dodges.
As a tank, the goal is to become "uncrushable" and "uncritable" which happens by using up all the stuff on top, taking crit and crush "off the table" since Blizzard set the table up to make anything past 100% be ignored. So, make miss 10%, parry 15%, dodge 15%, and block 60% and tada...you can't be crit or crushed.
So that 1% doesn't sound like a lot to non-tanks, but damn is it...
(see http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_Table for details)
or, you could just turn the damn desktop PC off when you're not using it anymore, and stop pretending the 30 seconds it takes for it to boot is somehow destroying your life. "Hibernate" does not mean "use no electricity."
I don't collect movies, but if I did, I would be most concerned that chip based storage technology is going to overtake the clunky optical-mechanical drives and leave me with a (yet again) obsolete media library. And if you *did* collect movies, and knew what you were doing, you'd know that flash drives don't retain data all that terribly long (at least, not yet). Unless you plug them in every once in a while, you're gona start losing bits. I have movies on my shelf I haven't watched in a couple years. That doesn't mean I won't be in the mood to watch them at some point. Would suck if I stuck it in a player only to find the storage media had failed.