Ok then, what is the elementary (indivisable) unit of time? Because that's what we measure frequency in, and that is what we are dividing. So If you could tell me what that is I'll use it in all further analogies.
If you can't tell me then my "imaginary infinately seperable sub-quark particle" is sufficient of an *analogy*, because it is "similarity in some respects" to time. even if it is imaginary. Semicolon.
Finite Bandwith is only required if there is noise. Bandwitdh capacity aproaches infinity as noise goes to zero. (Because we can have an infinite number of voltage levels for our symbols.) So if we could make a radio that is 100% immune to all noise, We could have infinite badwidth. But, in the *real* world, I agree with you completely.
Foolishly I thought a "knife cutting bread" analogy would be more universal than a "sub elementary particle spliiting energy ray acting upon a uniform string of imaginary and infinately seperable sub-quark particles." I guess I'll have to remember to use overbearingly precise analogies in the future.
analogy n. pl. analogies
1. Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
2. A comparison based on such similarity. See Synonyms at likeness.
Key words being "in some respects" and "comparison"
Actually it would cease to be bread long before that, having separated the flour from the other ingredients. Foolishly I thought a "knife cutting bread" analogy would be more universal than a "sub elementary particle spliiting energy ray acting upon a uniform string of imaginary and infinately seperable sub-quark particles." I guess I'll have to remember to use overbearingly precise analogies in the future.
Your attcking the analogy, not the argument. This is known as a "straw man" logical fallicy.
My analogy was to illustrate how the electromagnetic spectrum may be broken up into infinite discrete frequencies if we keep "cutting it". Like the difference between 50 MHz and 51 MHz, well there is 50.5 MHz and 50.55 MHz and 50.555 MHz. and so on. This is at the core of David Reed's article. And while there is in fact infinite frequencies, there is a limit to how low modern technology can discriminate between them.
Also The word atom comes from the Greek for 'not cut': originally the idea was that you could not split it: now we know better. But that's why my analogy proposed a knife that could cut sub-elementary particles (to make the finite example infinite) to bridge the gap between cutting particles and dividing spectrum.
And there is no reason to yell, It's rude and it shows a lack of class.
But how many fractions of grains of sand are there? I mean if you keep cutting the fractions in half, and the halves of fractions in half. And cut the halves of halves of halves of halves of halves....
If I never stop dividing by two, Is that infinite? Or were you just trolling by saying I was ignorant?
with improved transceivers we could open the spectrum up to high-quality broadcasts by anyone While this is *techniclly* correct, On could also say that A knife could be built that can cut a loaf of bread into infinite pieces, if we could design it to cut sub-elementary particles. Why are we not making knives that can do this? Because the technology isn't there, and if it was it would probably be cost prohibitive.
To allow subscribers to let the Editors know about dupes and spelling mistakes before the rest of us see them? That sure would decrease threads of those types.
You mean like This One? If enough of us link to it from our personal web pages, We could probably make it come up first on google. Be sure to use the words "Microsoft Business Partner" in the link!
sed -e 's/punch in the face/damage or disable opponent/' But you can't gain ground without doing damage, or disabling your opponent. So all you can enforce is the status quo.
As for your examples, two of them were killed, and only through wars and acts of civil disobedience were their causes furthered.One is in exile only protected but the might of the country he is in. And one was protected by the threat of outside military forces or revolution.
Do you honestly think that passive resistence would ever work without the threat of military action or civil disobedience? The whole premise of passive resistance is predicated on the fact that at some level *someone* will protect them. Or that they will become martyrs and start a revolution.
1. Approach ignorant moron talking about "peace" and saying that there should be "no retaliation". 2. Engage in brief conversation; ask if military force is appropriate. 3. When he says "No," ask, "Why not?" 4. Wait until he says something to the effect of, "Because this would just cause a vicious circle of more innocent deaths, which would be awful and we should not cause more violence." 5. When he's in mid sentence, punch him in the face as hard as you can. 6. When he is about to punch you back, point out that it would be a serious mistake and contrary to his values to strike you, because that would "be awful and he should not cause more violence." 7. Wait until he agrees that he has pledged not to commit additional violence. 8. Punch him in the face again, harder this time. Repeat steps 5 through 8 until he understands that sometimes it is necessary to punch back.
I was *in* the Army and for the most part, I agree with everything above. However If you have a crafty supply seargent running the parts section of the motor pool this can be circumvented. We had awesome parts from high performance glow-plugs to tires. Our HMMWVs could bark the tires (Not easily done in a full time 4W drive vehicle) And they almost never broke down. So if you had the right man for the job (someone willing to put in the extra hours to find the right part numbers and requisition them) HMMWVs rock! Like everything else in the Army, It's all about the people.
I can remember all the way back to when Slashdot had news stories Linux geeks cared about. Not dinner party conversation starters. What's next Dream analysis? Sheesh.
You must wear gloves everywhere you go. Or do you write your username on everything you touch? You leave your fingerprints everywhere. All I need to do is lift them with a kit and etch them with a computerised etcher, make a gelatin mold and I am now you, forever. And you can't change them. I can change or invalidate a username a lot easier than you can replace your thumb. An etcher is a rather expensive piece of equipment, but not as expensive as limb replacement sugery.
If you have a pin or password, why even require biometric data? Why not simply put a keyboard at the counter and let me use al login and password.This way It would be just as secure and Admiral Poindexter woun't have my fingerprints in his Total Information Awareness database.
Check the book Again. This is not a closed system. Which is the ONLY place the laws of thermodynamics apply. Perpetual motion would imply you're not adding anything to the system. Adding more waste + bacteria = more methane. I'm not saying that there would be enough methane to keep the system going, But I'm certainly not suggesting perpetual motion.
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The point is that EVERYTHING is quantized
Ok then, what is the elementary (indivisable) unit of time? Because that's what we measure frequency in, and that is what we are dividing.
So If you could tell me what that is I'll use it in all further analogies.
If you can't tell me then my "imaginary infinately seperable sub-quark particle" is sufficient of an *analogy*, because it is "similarity in some respects" to time. even if it is imaginary.
Semicolon.
Finite Bandwith is only required if there is noise. Bandwitdh capacity aproaches infinity as noise goes to zero. (Because we can have an infinite number of voltage levels for our symbols.) So if we could make a radio that is 100% immune to all noise, We could have infinite badwidth. But, in the *real* world, I agree with you completely.
Foolishly I thought a "knife cutting bread" analogy would be more universal than a
"sub elementary particle spliiting energy ray acting upon a uniform string of imaginary and infinately seperable sub-quark particles."
I guess I'll have to remember to use overbearingly precise analogies in the future.
analogy
n. pl. analogies
1. Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
2. A comparison based on such similarity. See Synonyms at likeness.
Key words being "in some respects" and "comparison"
Actually it would cease to be bread long before that, having separated the flour from the other ingredients.
Foolishly I thought a "knife cutting bread" analogy would be more universal than a
"sub elementary particle spliiting energy ray acting upon a uniform string of imaginary and infinately seperable sub-quark particles."
I guess I'll have to remember to use overbearingly precise analogies in the future.
josh crawley pointed the weaknesses in the analogy. See his thread for details.
Ok I'll grant that I might have come up with a better analogy,
But which fallacy would best fit the one I made, so I won't do it again in the future?
Your attcking the analogy, not the argument. This is known as a "straw man" logical fallicy.
My analogy was to illustrate how the electromagnetic spectrum may be broken up into infinite discrete frequencies if we keep "cutting it".
Like the difference between 50 MHz and 51 MHz, well there is 50.5 MHz and 50.55 MHz and 50.555 MHz. and so on.
This is at the core of David Reed's article. And while there is in fact infinite frequencies, there is a limit to how low modern technology can discriminate between them.
Also The word atom comes from the Greek for 'not cut': originally the idea was that you could not split it: now we know better.
But that's why my analogy proposed a knife that could cut sub-elementary particles (to make the finite example infinite) to bridge the gap between cutting particles and dividing spectrum.
And there is no reason to yell, It's rude and it shows a lack of class.
But how many fractions of grains of sand are there? ....
I mean if you keep cutting the fractions in half, and the halves of fractions in half.
And cut the halves of halves of halves of halves of halves
If I never stop dividing by two, Is that infinite?
Or were you just trolling by saying I was ignorant?
with improved transceivers we could open the spectrum up to high-quality broadcasts by anyone
While this is *techniclly* correct, On could also say that A knife could be built that can cut a loaf of bread into infinite pieces, if we could design it to cut sub-elementary particles. Why are we not making knives that can do this? Because the technology isn't there, and if it was it would probably be cost prohibitive.
To allow subscribers to let the Editors know about dupes and spelling mistakes before the rest of us see them? That sure would decrease threads of those types.
Just needs to be re-routed to the single cup USB enabled coffee maker.
Don't you mean
"./configure && make windows && make install"
You mean like This One?
If enough of us link to it from our personal web pages, We could probably make it come up first on google.
Be sure to use the words "Microsoft Business Partner" in the link!
Block This:
ssh -L 3128:squidserver:3128 squidserver
Now I set my proxy to localhost:3128
Of course The snoops sure do see a lot of ssh traffic to my house.
Damn Maybe I should have checked [] Post Anonymously.
Nick Burns "Your Company's computer guy"
sed -e 's/punch in the face/damage or disable opponent/'
But you can't gain ground without doing damage, or disabling your opponent. So all you can enforce is the status quo.
As for your examples, two of them were killed, and only through wars and acts of civil disobedience were their causes furthered.One is in exile only protected but the might of the country he is in. And one was protected by the threat of outside military forces or revolution.
Do you honestly think that passive resistence would ever work without the threat of military action or civil disobedience? The whole premise of passive resistance is predicated on the fact that at some level *someone* will protect them. Or that they will become martyrs and start a revolution.
When you meet a peacenik...
1. Approach ignorant moron talking about "peace" and saying that there should be "no retaliation".
2. Engage in brief conversation; ask if military force is appropriate.
3. When he says "No," ask, "Why not?"
4. Wait until he says something to the effect of, "Because this would just cause a vicious circle of more innocent deaths, which would be awful and we should not cause more violence."
5. When he's in mid sentence, punch him in the face as hard as you can.
6. When he is about to punch you back, point out that it would be a serious mistake and contrary to his values to strike you, because that would "be awful and he should not cause more violence."
7. Wait until he agrees that he has pledged not to commit additional violence.
8. Punch him in the face again, harder this time. Repeat steps 5 through 8 until he understands that sometimes it is necessary to punch back.
I was *in* the Army and for the most part, I agree with everything above. However If you have a crafty supply seargent running the parts section of the motor pool this can be circumvented. We had awesome parts from high performance glow-plugs to tires. Our HMMWVs could bark the tires (Not easily done in a full time 4W drive vehicle) And they almost never broke down. So if you had the right man for the job (someone willing to put in the extra hours to find the right part numbers and requisition them) HMMWVs rock! Like everything else in the Army, It's all about the people.
I knew one. He didn't have a box but he did do the diary thing. But the idiot didn't count things he taped to watch later.
I can remember all the way back to when Slashdot had news stories Linux geeks cared about. Not dinner party conversation starters. What's next Dream analysis? Sheesh.
You must wear gloves everywhere you go. Or do you write your username on everything you touch? You leave your fingerprints everywhere. All I need to do is lift them with a kit and etch them with a computerised etcher, make a gelatin mold and I am now you, forever. And you can't change them. I can change or invalidate a username a lot easier than you can replace your thumb. An etcher is a rather expensive piece of equipment, but not as expensive as limb replacement sugery.
If you have a pin or password, why even require biometric data? Why not simply put a keyboard at the counter and let me use al login and password.This way It would be just as secure and Admiral Poindexter woun't have my fingerprints in his Total Information Awareness database.
So I just need to find someone who resembles me to replicate, then he gets arrested for filing a false claim.
Just give equal (or more) money to the EFF?
See a movie, make a donation.
Then at least you're not contributing to the net evil.
Check the book Again. This is not a closed system. Which is the ONLY place the laws of thermodynamics apply. Perpetual motion would imply you're not adding anything to the system. Adding more waste + bacteria = more methane. I'm not saying that there would be enough methane to keep the system going, But I'm certainly not suggesting perpetual motion.