hell those dead things are just rearranged atoms that might have once been part of a great work of art or even a set of lincolin logs. why not let them play with the decaying rotting flesh of a dog?
really though i agree with you 100%, and i dont disagree with laws like this as long as there is some oversight committe makeing sure the money goes to the right people.
i dont believe the parent to your post ever declaired our elected officials to be stupid. by the taxes portion i believe he was associating that by paying taxes you are paying for your government-a government which is pandering to corporations.
hey. for those of you looking for the iso this should be a fairly fast mirror. i will have no way of verifying it till sunday. so if someone can veryify it for me that would be nice. i'll put that in a readme in the same directory along with the md5sum.
currently it's at 87 percent. it should be done in a couple hours. the final size is around 440 megs. look for the readme to know when it's done. mirror
i had a roommate who worked at the corporate office in bentonville. he worked on walmart online during it's initial construction. after completing walmart online he said they sold it off to a third party for many reasons (one of the biggest being tax reasons). according to him walmart online ran on a large cluster of linux computers with one box between the cluster and the internet pretending to be a windows 2000 box or something like that. my understanding is that walmart uses linux, but doesnt advertise the fact.
Whatever anyone thinks about their business practices and operating systems, they sure seem to always sell good mice.
i say the same about nike. who cares if small asian children work 16 hours a day for almost nothing-they sure make good shoes. really though it's called having principles. if you think a company is bad, for whatever reason, you shouldnt do business with that company-not just the part of the company you disagree with.
mod me down if you want, but i personally dont appreciate the hypocrisy.
personally i think parents should take a more active role in the lives of their children. then people will say "we dont have the time to monitor everything our children do". personally i think you should wait until you have time, then have children.
back when i was young, this lady named tipper started something called the parents music resource center (pmrc). she, and a few other senators wives with nothing better to do, started lobbying the major record labels for a rating system. eventually they got the major record labels to comply, but some others wern't all that quick to adhere to their "moral" views (see at).
so what was their solution? picket any stores that sell this music that they dont approve of. this leads to bands being blacklisted because they dont think morals should be dictated to them. one of the bands was the dead kennedys, an antigovernment band whos lead singer didnt have alot of nice things to say about tippers husband when he ran for election in 2000 (not that he had many nice things to say abou bush either).
so who cares right? i do, there is a small subset of the population dictating what is "morally right" and i dont think that bodes well with the liberties given to people by our constitution. this allows parents to be less responsible at a time when they should be _MORE_ responsible. i want parents to stop looking for external excuses for their childrens' behaviour and start to accept that they have to participate in the lives of their children to be a good parent.
you bring up a very good point and i dont have any problem with what you suggest. i was simply stating what i thought people were legally responsible for. if you disagree with the law then that's ok by me (i dont really agree completely either). there is a difference between disagreeing and simply ignoring that the law exsists.
for example, i once spent over an hour trying to convience someone that downloading copyrighted material (mp3s) that you have no claim to (having never purchased the cd's) is illegal. he simply refused to admit that it was illegal.
have you ever heard that ignorance of the law is no excuse? they should have covered it in civics. if you agree to something you dont understand you are still resposible.
ianal: i believe here they are legally binding. here being the united states of course ; ). it would be nice to move towards what you guys have. be careful though. organizations like the wipo will probably start lobbying your government to do things to legally enforce eulas.
1-> i connect to a server and get a list of stuff thats updated. then my computer makes a decision.
the eula above
2-> their server can connect to mine and poke around at will.
up2date is a choice and not required by the installation. you must register your computer to use up2date. up2date is not something you explicitly agree to when you install the operating system.
well in theory when you installed windows xp you went through the online registraton. at this point your personal information is in a database somewhere at microsoft. when you installed office xp you will go through the same registration process. then they know you installed it there (on computer A). now you go and install the same products on some other computer (computer B), call microsoft and tell them you got a new computer and you need to move your licenses. your old computer (computer A) is still running, and microsoft decides to contact it when it's online and they discover that you are using your copy of xp twice. since you registered they know your name, phone, address, etc. they call them bsa and i think you can figure the reset out.
are you breaking the law? sure. are they allowed to search through your computer? sure you clicked "ok". do i want to deal with this? no. imagine if you moved into a neighborhood and you had to agree to have your house searched whenever some private organization wants to.
if that private organization only used the information they were allowed to it probably wouldnt be that bad. i personally dont trust microsoft to have my best interests at heart, so i wouldnt agree to such things.
most of the stuff i use is released under one of the following:
gpl
bsd
apache
by reading the above licensing terms (the bsd one is trivial)
it would cover about 85-90% of the software i use (close to 95% of the stuff i have installed). the rest are some variation of the above. while it might be a pain in the ass your still making a legal agreement. weather or not you care to read what you are agreeing to is not really that important your still responsible for your actions (disclaimer: if you are an adult in the united states)
i would expect that most home users wouldnt be using windows 2000 professional, and i would expect the IT people of a company to be a little more accountable than the average home user. i'm a grad student and i manage computers for my advisor. when i install software, i check out the licenses. most of it is gpl'ed so i dont have to worry too much. it's my responsibility since i'm his IT person. i'm not a lawyer or in need of psychiatric help (i suppose you could argue about the latter).
i hadnt thought of that, but there are other options. slashdot could provide a mirror, for a limited time, of the site if the editor thinks the site cannot handle it (mirror, wget, etc). hell this could even be encorporated into slashcode. i personally think the editors should be held a little more responsible for the effect they have on smaller websites. when i think about the/. effect i think of a giant child walking through a popluated village.
do you think it would be possible to post links to google cache in the main story? i'm sure the owners of the web sites would prefer it. what would it take to be a little more responsible and try to avoid squashing the little guys that provide your content? it must be nice to have so much bandwith that you loose perspective and forget that the rest of the world does not.
not really on topic but-most of the people from asia that i have spoken with dont really like the world bank that much. the y equate them to loan sharks on a global scale. is there anyone here who would care to comment on this? i'm just curious.
they were probably grad students in the states. i bet it cost them a pretty penny to take all those cdr's back with them ; )
really though. alot of the stuff on irc originates in asia. it wouldnt surprise me if they had a huge stash of movies/warez/misc media from over the years. i'm working on one myself. i've got the database and the web interface done in it's first incarnation.
perhaps i'm silly, but i really dont like paying for something then having to view advertisements. if i dont pay (ie webpages) i dont mind. when i pay $8 to see a movie and the first 5 to 10 minutes are coke and car commercials not to mention the products placed in the movie i find it kinda irritating. why am i paying to be advertised to?
they probably just hung out on irc for a couple years while they were in school-downloaded every movie they saw. one day they probably looked around and thought "hey lets sell this stuff on the web because in taiwan copying is a right!".
the catalog part is still in beta, but it's really amazing. when you do a search it actually hilights the words within what appears to be images. really cool. i could see how the three above could easily up their capacity to 50tb.
i find it odd that most instances of "linux" in this article are not preceeded with the "gnu/" prefix. it's in the title, but lacking in most of the article. it's not that i really care about this issue, but i would have thought something published by the fsf would insist on this.
are you aware that you can user their service up2date for _free_ for one computer? this isnt something they advertise, but it's there. if you have multiple computers the $5/month is better for you.
Slashdot Mirror
his sig says
children shouldn't play with dead things
hell those dead things are just rearranged atoms that might have once been part of a great work of art or even a set of lincolin logs. why not let them play with the decaying rotting flesh of a dog?
really though i agree with you 100%, and i dont disagree with laws like this as long as there is some oversight committe makeing sure the money goes to the right people.
i dont believe the parent to your post ever declaired our elected officials to be stupid. by the taxes portion i believe he was associating that by paying taxes you are paying for your government-a government which is pandering to corporations.
it's done downloading. still not verified though. the md5sum is:
acdfcc7b1cc4def9fe486f84dd391615 rf24.iso
hey.
for those of you looking for the iso this should be a fairly fast mirror. i will have no way of verifying it till sunday. so if someone can veryify it for me that would be nice. i'll put that in a readme in the same directory along with the md5sum.
currently it's at 87 percent. it should be done in a couple hours. the final size is around 440 megs. look for the readme to know when it's done.
mirror
i had a roommate who worked at the corporate office in bentonville. he worked on walmart online during it's initial construction. after completing walmart online he said they sold it off to a third party for many reasons (one of the biggest being tax reasons). according to him walmart online ran on a large cluster of linux computers with one box between the cluster and the internet pretending to be a windows 2000 box or something like that. my understanding is that walmart uses linux, but doesnt advertise the fact.
Whatever anyone thinks about their business practices and operating systems, they sure seem to always sell good mice.
i say the same about nike. who cares if small asian children work 16 hours a day for almost nothing-they sure make good shoes. really though it's called having principles. if you think a company is bad, for whatever reason, you shouldnt do business with that company-not just the part of the company you disagree with.
mod me down if you want, but i personally dont appreciate the hypocrisy.
personally i think parents should take a more active role in the lives of their children. then people will say "we dont have the time to monitor everything our children do". personally i think you should wait until you have time, then have children.
back when i was young, this lady named tipper started something called the parents music resource center (pmrc). she, and a few other senators wives with nothing better to do, started lobbying the major record labels for a rating system. eventually they got the major record labels to comply, but some others wern't all that quick to adhere to their "moral" views (see at).
so what was their solution? picket any stores that sell this music that they dont approve of. this leads to bands being blacklisted because they dont think morals should be dictated to them. one of the bands was the dead kennedys, an antigovernment band whos lead singer didnt have alot of nice things to say about tippers husband when he ran for election in 2000 (not that he had many nice things to say abou bush either).
so who cares right? i do, there is a small subset of the population dictating what is "morally right" and i dont think that bodes well with the liberties given to people by our constitution. this allows parents to be less responsible at a time when they should be _MORE_ responsible. i want parents to stop looking for external excuses for their childrens' behaviour and start to accept that they have to participate in the lives of their children to be a good parent.
isnt this similar to what plan9 is trying to accomplish?
plan 9 from bell labs
you bring up a very good point and i dont have any problem with what you suggest. i was simply stating what i thought people were legally responsible for. if you disagree with the law then that's ok by me (i dont really agree completely either). there is a difference between disagreeing and simply ignoring that the law exsists.
for example, i once spent over an hour trying to convience someone that downloading copyrighted material (mp3s) that you have no claim to (having never purchased the cd's) is illegal. he simply refused to admit that it was illegal.
have you ever heard that ignorance of the law is no excuse? they should have covered it in civics. if you agree to something you dont understand you are still resposible.
ianal: i believe here they are legally binding. here being the united states of course ; ). it would be nice to move towards what you guys have. be careful though. organizations like the wipo will probably start lobbying your government to do things to legally enforce eulas.
1-> i connect to a server and get a list of stuff thats updated. then my computer makes a decision.
the eula above
2-> their server can connect to mine and poke around at will.
up2date is a choice and not required by the installation. you must register your computer to use up2date. up2date is not something you explicitly agree to when you install the operating system.
to me there is a big difference.
well in theory when you installed windows xp you went through the online registraton. at this point your personal information is in a database somewhere at microsoft. when you installed office xp you will go through the same registration process. then they know you installed it there (on computer A). now you go and install the same products on some other computer (computer B), call microsoft and tell them you got a new computer and you need to move your licenses. your old computer (computer A) is still running, and microsoft decides to contact it when it's online and they discover that you are using your copy of xp twice. since you registered they know your name, phone, address, etc. they call them bsa and i think you can figure the reset out.
are you breaking the law? sure. are they allowed to search through your computer? sure you clicked "ok". do i want to deal with this? no. imagine if you moved into a neighborhood and you had to agree to have your house searched whenever some private organization wants to.
if that private organization only used the information they were allowed to it probably wouldnt be that bad. i personally dont trust microsoft to have my best interests at heart, so i wouldnt agree to such things.
gpl
bsd
apache
by reading the above licensing terms (the bsd one is trivial)
it would cover about 85-90% of the software i use (close to 95% of the stuff i have installed). the rest are some variation of the above. while it might be a pain in the ass your still making a legal agreement. weather or not you care to read what you are agreeing to is not really that important your still responsible for your actions (disclaimer: if you are an adult in the united states)
i would expect that most home users wouldnt be using windows 2000 professional, and i would expect the IT people of a company to be a little more accountable than the average home user. i'm a grad student and i manage computers for my advisor. when i install software, i check out the licenses. most of it is gpl'ed so i dont have to worry too much. it's my responsibility since i'm his IT person. i'm not a lawyer or in need of psychiatric help (i suppose you could argue about the latter).
i hadnt thought of that, but there are other options. slashdot could provide a mirror, for a limited time, of the site if the editor thinks the site cannot handle it (mirror, wget, etc). hell this could even be encorporated into slashcode. i personally think the editors should be held a little more responsible for the effect they have on smaller websites. when i think about the /. effect i think of a giant child walking through a popluated village.
do you think it would be possible to post links to google cache in the main story? i'm sure the owners of the web sites would prefer it. what would it take to be a little more responsible and try to avoid squashing the little guys that provide your content? it must be nice to have so much bandwith that you loose perspective and forget that the rest of the world does not.
not really on topic but-most of the people from asia that i have spoken with dont really like the world bank that much. the y equate them to loan sharks on a global scale. is there anyone here who would care to comment on this? i'm just curious.
they were probably grad students in the states. i bet it cost them a pretty penny to take all those cdr's back with them ; )
really though. alot of the stuff on irc originates in asia. it wouldnt surprise me if they had a huge stash of movies/warez/misc media from over the years. i'm working on one myself. i've got the database and the web interface done in it's first incarnation.
perhaps i'm silly, but i really dont like paying for something then having to view advertisements. if i dont pay (ie webpages) i dont mind. when i pay $8 to see a movie and the first 5 to 10 minutes are coke and car commercials not to mention the products placed in the movie i find it kinda irritating. why am i paying to be advertised to?
they probably just hung out on irc for a couple years while they were in school-downloaded every movie they saw. one day they probably looked around and thought "hey lets sell this stuff on the web because in taiwan copying is a right!".
i would imagine they have backups of some sort. even if its just dram rsyncing across the internet.
images.google
catalogs.google
groups.google
the catalog part is still in beta, but it's really amazing. when you do a search it actually hilights the words within what appears to be images. really cool. i could see how the three above could easily up their capacity to 50tb.
i find it odd that most instances of "linux" in this article are not preceeded with the "gnu/" prefix. it's in the title, but lacking in most of the article. it's not that i really care about this issue, but i would have thought something published by the fsf would insist on this.
are you aware that you can user their service up2date for _free_ for one computer? this isnt something they advertise, but it's there. if you have multiple computers the $5/month is better for you.
I say this because the usps is a corporation. It's normally listed as a fortun 500 company. As a result their add space is for sale.