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MX pointed us to a story about a
new buttonless mouse. It's visually quite unique, but they say it's not the ideal gaming device for you real-time-gaming folks. But hey, points for style. I've been using this
optical cordless logitech (Blatant ThinkGeek linkage) on my desktop for awhile, although I'm not sure how well it'd work for gaming. When I play, I still use a MS Optical mouse. Whatever anyone thinks about their business practices and operating systems, they sure seem to always sell good mice.
This seems like it would be good for implementing a targeting system in say tank simulations. Where you can move the mouse to move the tank, and move your hand on the mouse to move the turret. Also good for 3d modeling as they say
Photos.
One of the thingks I've missed in the Apple buttonless is the wheel. Once you get used to that little sucker, it's hard to live without him. (Sure, it's a button, I guess, but not one I'd do without...)
What? and you don't post my story on the keyless keyboard?
Carpe meam simiam!
Personally, I've never understood why people are so obsessed with MS mice. There's nothing wrong with them, although I think the ergonomics are sometimes designed for show rather than use. But when Logitech discontinued the Pilot mouse, I went out and bought a whole bunch. I've yet to find anything better. MS mice, and newer Logitech mice all lack a full size middle button, and those with wheels impede the use of the middle button. I've never understood why wheel mice didn't have a traditional three button layout with the wheel on the side, being thumb operated...
"The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike." -- Delos B. McKown
I absolutely LOVE my optical, wireless Logitech mouse, with three buttons plus clickable scroller =] It goes thru about 2 AAs in a month, under more or less constant mousing. I will never go back to wires if I can help it.
User: My mouse doesn't have any buttons? How do I click?
Helpdesk: Lean left.
User: What, the buttons are in the seat now?
Helpdesk: No, lean the mouse left.
User: But how do I move it around then?
Helpdesk: Er...put it back.
User: What if I have to click and drag?
Helpdesk: Hang on, let me just open up a hardware service ticket.
"It remains to be seen if the human brain is powerful enough to solve the problems it has created." Dr. Richard Wallace
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Hehe,it seems their webserver is running on a mouse, too
Life sucks.
It appears to me that the mouse still has left-right buttons, but they're in the underside of the mouse body, so you have to tilt the entire body to activate a button by pressing the appropriate corner harder against the desk. Cool, but like the man said, you lose some fine control and quick response time.
Yeah you definately wouldn't want to be using a mouse like that for gaming. In fact, even using an optical mouse isn't a good thing if you are competing at the world level.
What you will find if you look into the Pro gamer community (this might sound like I'm kidding, but it really exists: http://www.shackes.com) is that most of them do not like optical mice. They simply don't have high enough sampling rate in most cases. If you turn fast enough with an optical then tend to freak out for a second resulting in your player staring at the floor or sky and spinning. Also, the movements and physics of using an optical are somewhat different. For instance the 'flick' motion that a lot of players have mastered doesn't translate well to an optical.
Opticals are nice because of their longevity, and low maintenance, but if you're seriuos then ball is still king.
Sigs are awesome huh?
Whatever anyone thinks about their business practices and operating systems, they sure seem to always sell good mice.
I replaced the hideous 'pebble' supplied with my iMac with an MS optical wheel mouse, it's probably the best £30 I've spent on computing kit.
The Classic MacOS drivers for the extra button and scrolly wheel work without incident and MacOSX has support built in.
Are there any left-handed mice out there for use strictly as a gaming device (one that can be used at the same time as a right-handed mouse)? Preferably one with lots of buttons. I have always wanted to be able to control both movement and aiming with mice. I've tried joysticks but they just don't cut it. If I had a mouse in each hand with eight to ten buttons on each mouse, I could stop using the keyboard for gaming.
Whatever anyone thinks about their business practices and operating systems, they sure seem to always sell good mice.
i say the same about nike. who cares if small asian children work 16 hours a day for almost nothing-they sure make good shoes. really though it's called having principles. if you think a company is bad, for whatever reason, you shouldnt do business with that company-not just the part of the company you disagree with.
mod me down if you want, but i personally dont appreciate the hypocrisy.
-- john
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is it me, or are there little OSDN hints in the stories?
... or check this out from our partner ...
/. is part of OSDN, but why make it extremely obvious/annoying?
the more than obvious ones, the 'here's an OSDN link'
is it me, or is this a new thing? we all know
Runnin' On Empty
Apple's buttonless, (beautiful), optical mouse has been great for me. They say Macs are more productive computers because of the user interface.. I agree.. but I must admit I wasted a lot of time originally just looking at this thing.. it's weird.. the inside of it appears to "float". You can't tell this in pictures but in 'real life' it seems to float. It reminds me of mercury actually, in a sense. The Apple logo inside, especially, floats within it. It's a really great mouse.. and it's connected to a G4 tower, so that ain't bad either!
Wow, I'm talking about *nothing* and I've still developed a paragraph! Much like my english papers. I'm done now...
The next comment I write will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and see it early!
"Whatever anyone thinks about their business practices and operating systems, they sure seem to always sell good mice."
Difference being is this. Microsoft software is made, mostly, within Microsoft. Microsoft hardware is hardware someone else makes and they just slap on a label onto it.
Microsoft hardware is actually really good, and the support for it is amazing. My optical mouse was tweaking out for some reason, so I called them and they sent me another one by the next day. They didn't require me to send in my old one. It probably didn't cost them much anyway, but it was still a cool gesture.
your ass is mine in Quake3 with this baby:
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Check it out.
While 'bloated' with the explorer-name, i really enjoy the feel of the mouse .. it fits nicely in my palm and the 3.0-version has better update (which was a small problem with the first version, at least when doing fps-gaming and you suddenly wanted to turn all the way around) ..
.. i'd recommend it for anyone looking for a good, optical mouse.. the only problem is that they've moved the 'next/prev' buttons since 1.0, so i press them accidently from time to time ..
.. it doesnt bluescreen. there's a red flare, however.
The 3.0 is also a bit "lower" than the previous version (1.0) and looks more logitechish
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mats
One man's ceiling is another man's floor.
I must admit as well that microsoft does well in the interface device category. I happen to be fond of their joysticks. But, Logitech always seems to make their mice and keyboard better and for gamepads I've always got to go with a Gravis.
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I would like to try this no button mouse, when I am working (coding) I occassionally get serious serious hand pain (no jokes..lol).
It will last for days and is quite painful. All of us in tech jobs, spending long hours at computers should take a serious look at ergonomics. Also, your employer should pay for upgrading your chair, keyboard and mouse if you feel pain with your current setup. It's your health, your future, hell, go out and buy what you want and throw the bill at your boss if you're in pain (not literally throw it, figuratively). I would in fact suggest sitting down with your employer and going over ergonomics and how it can effect employee productivity.
Maybe some of these links would be helpful:
Design/Layout
Ergonomics - A Practical Guide
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and Computer Related Repetitive Strain Injuries
I am gonna buy one, the tiny little muscles used in your hands to click the mice buttons place a huge strain on your arm over a period of time. It may not bother you now, but let's talk in 20 years....
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So much for the "it's scaleable" argument.
I owned one of the first Microsoft mice, by sheer chance. They're still shaped the same way now as they were back then, but the mouse I had was fully dead within 12 months. Since then, they've evolved the product substantially, to something that many people tout as the holy grail of mice.
I have a personal preference for Logitech optical trackballs, and haven't used any MS mice since my first one died (it really was that shoddy of a product). It's also my personal belief that Microsoft takes their "evolution" process too far, and throws in too many features at the expense of stability and longevity. Note that I draw no comparisons to WinXP or IE 6.
I still contend that such products although good, should still be referred to as "microsoft rats"!
That is all.
Optical mice aren't too good for FPS style games. They always 'slip' if you move them too quickly (you end up looking down - not too good when trying to shoot someone before you kill you).
A good solid ye olde ball mouse is very good. I highly recommed the Logitech WingMan Gaming Mouse (if you can find one). With the shoot, jump, reload style of games, you need 3 buttons minimum.
When I play, I still use a MS Optical mouse
All this time you've been yelling about how evil microsoft is, and yet you're still supporting them by using their product ?
My fucking God taco! You're a bloody hypocrite!
Why didn't Apple use a wireless keyboard and mouse on its new iMacs? It seems to me that the entire beauty of the machine is completely ruined by having to look at these cables.
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Usualy the wheel can click, acting as the middle button. This can cause problems if you are prone to rolling the wheel while trying to press it. I have Taco's Logitech mouse (or the same model, rather) and the fourth button, on the thumb, is also a "middle button". This solves the above issue. The fact that this is /all/ I can get the fourth button to do is my failure to configure linux.
My favorite mouse ever was my Logitech Series 9, which went into spasms and had to be removed from service. I plan to replace its guts with a wheel mouse some day, giving it every feature I want.
I wonder if Taco actually bought his mouse through them to show his support, or if he goes to ... We need more sousveillance!!
I'm still on my good ol' Logitech serial mouse. Sadly, this thing is more reliable then any other mouse i've come in contact with, as they have resulted in either breaking, or they died out on me while playing Age of Empires.
You woudn't belive how much it sucked sending in a huge horse archer army against someone online and then having your mouse die out on you.
The Cordless Mouseman Optical(that mr. Taco is using on his desktop..) arent great for gaming, because it(like all other cordlesses) sometimes have problems when you get REALLY "twitchy"(when u make 200 differnt moves in 5sec. Tonyhawk is a really twitchy game.. so is counterstrike(which might be a better example since were talking mice here :)) in a game.
;O)
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I have a Cordless Mouseman Optical, but Since ive got my USB Optical Wheelmouse (also logitech). It have been pluged into my game maschine, since the USB still are more reliable.. BUT, i must say, Ive found the Logitec cordless Mouseman Optical is one of the most stable cordless ive have tried yet. I also own a MS Cordless and the logitec is, in my experice, WAY more stable.. But MS knows this i think, they warn you on the mouses product page: MS productpage , Wireless freedom, Microsoft reliability LMAO
BUT, dear mr. Tacodude.. Ur are rich and everything, go get the new Mouseman Dual Optical, it has a tail(hence stable in games), and two optic eyes(hence 1600DPI res).. Havent tried one yet.. but they should be GREAT for gaming..
Taco posts a story about a new mouse, and includes a one-line comment mentioning MS Mice. Result: a thread of replies almost entirely about Microsoft mice, Microsoft hardware, and MS's business practices. And 3 about the actual mouse :-)
However, shouldn't you be busy preparing your defense instead of trolling on Slashdot? Have you heard anything from Bill Clinton? Is he going to testify?
The owls are not what they seem
I'm kicking my /.addiction. I'm never visting this site again:
When I play, I still use a MS Optical mouse.
I guess the preposal took a lot of guts but admitting using M$-products is just plain stupid.
While it may not be the best for gaming, use of an IBM TrackPoint, built into the keyboard, makes for very efficient use of hand and finger motion, resulting in a lot less "brain strain". No more hunting of the hand between an external pointing device and the home keys. It's even more efficient than an integrated trackpad.
See this for an example.
The TrackPoint even works with MacOS and MacOS X, using USB Overdrive.
Anyone else notice that Microsoft's best (or perhaps, only decent) products are their hardware offerings? It's amazing what they can offer when they outsource most of the design and manufacturing to someone that knows what they're doing. Microsoft I/O gizmos and the XBox show that Microsoft does know how to assemble a team that is not afriad to hire outsiders to design and build a good product.
Now if only their Windows versions of Office took some cues from the Mac versions and became less of a disk/ram/cpu hog.
Off to download the latest 18 MB security service pack for Outlook... man am I glad I only own one Windows PC...
Ceterum censeo subscriptionem esse delendam.
The MS optical mouse I had died because the USB cable broke. The Logitech mouse I replaced it with has a little plastic extra to limit strain on it. So thumbs up to the Logitech which is still serving me well.
Also, the decoder chip inside was the same in both mice, so there's no difference there. MS still suck.
Now, about those Windows shortcut keys, if you want to use them in Linux, there is nothing stopping you. You can bind them to whatever kind of menu, modifier, or action you want.
...I find this stuff funny. From the site linked:
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I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man,
I'm just a mortal with potential of a super man.
I've tried every Apple mouse, two Logitech (one regular non-optical and one wireless optical), and a slew of others.
Nothing had impressed me more than the Optical Intellimouse Explorer until I tried the Wireless Optical Intellimouse Explorer. It tracks even smoother than the wired version, looks great, and doesn't light up the bathe room in a red glow when I turn off the light. The driver software (on Mac) is well designed, unobtrusive, and even tells you when the battery is low.
Then there is support: when my original Intellimouse died (after 2 years, not under warranty), I read them the serial number off the bottom, gave them my address, and they shipped me a replacement _overnight_, at no cost. When I say overnight, I mean I called at 9 PM and got it before noon the next day. I mail order lots of stuff, and have only seen this kind of performance from Outpost.com.
I am anti-microsoft-pro-little-guy whenever I can be, but Microsoft has my money when it comes to mice.
Karma: Incomprehensible (Mostly affected by posting at +5, reading at -1, and metamoderating everything unfair.)
Obviously I haven't used one, but I don't see what problem they're trying to solve with this leaning instead of clicking thing... it seems to me that that would be even worse for your wrist after repetitive use, and judging from the other mice on the companies website, they're not exactly masters of ergonomics or industrial design.
This does bring up a question I've wondered about, though; if Apple offers their own 2-button scroll wheel mouse, what will it look like. The last time we heard rumors that they were designing one was back during the days of their hockey-puck mouse, so the mouse would have had the fruit and ice design scheme. I must say Apple's current no button clickable mouse is beautiful, even though I use my Logitech Cordless Optical Mouse most of the time, I keep it on my desk for the prettiness factor (the Logitech isn't bad though, it almost perfectly matches the colors of a graphite G4 tower, it just can't hold a candle to a translucent black oval floating above your desk ;).
Of course, there's no guarantee Apple will ever make a two-button mouse, but I don't think you can rule out the possibility that they might start at least including them with Power Macs. Apple has admitted that many of their customers need the extra button and scroll wheel, particularly gamers; when Apple furnished Power Macs for QuakeCon, they came with 3rd party two button mice, and you'll wonder how you ever used the Mac OS X Finder with a one-button mouse once you switch.
So I think there is plenty of motivation, although they would probably keep the present mouse on the iMacs (the iMacs now actually use a special mouse with a white bubble instead of a black one, ditto for the keyboard). So my question is what would it look like? Hopefully nothing like this one from Green, in form or function, but how do you make a mouse as stunning as the current one with buttons and a scroll wheel breaking up the design? Would be a very different design, but the new towers might see a very new design sometime soon as well, and they might take that opportunity to switch keyboard and mouse designs ont the pro products as well, after all, is Apple going to use the same style they've had since the G3 when they start making 5th gen towers.
"Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity" -Alvy Ray Smith
Here's the article for those who can't reach it. Sorry for the freakin' filler, I hate the lameness filter.
Introduction (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
Personally I never heard of the company "Green" before. Did you? Anyway, they seem to have a wide range of rather interesting products. Today we take a look at two of them; The Crystal Optical Mouse and the Finger Mouse.
(image of packaging) (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)These products are provided by Colorcase.be.
Crystal Optical Mouse (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
Let's take a closer look at the Crystal Optical Mouse.
As we all know, most mice come with 2 or 3 buttons and a scroll wheel. Well, times change :). Green decided to try something new and they developed a buttonless mouse.
How does it work? The top part of the mouse is one shell. You have to move the shell to the right or the left to click. Here's a picture to clear it up:
(image of mouse, (c) Green)Specs Crystal Optical (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
Colorcase.be has this mouse in two different colors; black and purple. I have to warn you though, the black one isn't really black. It's rather "smoked", which is even sweeter :).
(image of both mice next to each other) (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)Specs (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
Experience Crystal Optical (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
When I first started to use this mouse it felt really weird. Especially because you have to swing the mouse to the left and the right to click. After using it for a couple of hours it was a piece of cake. It's a great mouse, but defenitly not suited for a real gamer. It takes to much time to click and you can't right click and left click at the same time. So if you work in an office all day and you want to try something new, try this mouse. If you are a hardcore gamer; leave it alone.
(image showing the smoked/transparant effect) (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)(image of above but in the dark) (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
What about the ergonomics? Well, to be honest, in the beginning this mouse is a little hard on you wrist. But when you get used to it that problem will not occure again!
Finger Mouse (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
This mouse (if you can call it a mouse) was especially developed for powerpoint presentation. With a normal mouse or trackball it's rather hard, when making a presentation, to switch between screens. Thanks to this innovative mouse you can say goodbye to that problem.
(image of the finger mouse) (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)Specs Finger Mouse (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
Let's see what this little mouse has to offer.
Specs: (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
- For notebook users (filler, filler, filler, filler)
- For children's tutorial operations (filler, filler, filler, filler)
- Special Elegant design (filler, filler, filler, filler)
- Wrist and finger muscle harmless design (filler, filler, filler, filler)
- A lighting LED when power by computer (filler, filler, filler, filler)
- Cursor movement is activated by thumb (filler, filler, filler, filler)
- USB/PS2 (filler, filler, filler, filler)
- Measurements: L x H x H= 98 x 45 x 75mm (filler, filler, filler, filler)
(image of mouse) (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)As you can see by the specification list, the main purpose of the Finger Mouse is to make presentations and laptop use easier. But if you have a laptop I wouldn't recommend this mouse. This mouse is a really awesome sollution for people who have to make a lot of presentations!
Here's how to hold it:
(image of mouse being held) (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)Conclusion (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
Crystal Optical Mouse:
This mouse performs very well and looks really sweet. It costs 48, that's about 52USD, but it's sure worth the money. I would recommend it to anyone who has to work with a PC whole day, because it is fun to use. But to all gamers, stay away from this mouse :).
Finger Mouse:
This mouse is perfect for Powerpoint presentations. But that's its only purpose, don't try to use it for something else. This mouse is available for 40EUR, about 43USD.
You can download additional drivers for the Crystal Optical Mouse here.
"I don't trust goats," --To Catch a Spy
Heck, even if it wasn't optical I'd be happy.
Many readers have wrote comments to the effect of their Microsoft optical mouse dying and them getting a free replacement from MS with just a phone call.
These are not isolated incidents.
Early versions of MS's optical mice have an exceptionally weak spot in what is otherwise a finely engineered product, which is where the cord enters the mouse itself. The wiring there can easily break, and indeed does also frequently occur on non-Microsoft mice.
MS is aware of this problem. It is not acknowledged to be a systematic problem, and they handle the replacement policy very well, as some here have noted. But it is still a problem with the earlier versions of MS optical mice.
Current versions of these excellent mice seem to have that connection point reinforced.
I've a got a logitech cordless optical like Taco, and love it. great for simple surfing or other desktop stuff. Sucks in Unreal Tournament though, but I have to reboot to play it anyway, so its a rare occasion.
You never read the quote by himself saying that MS isn't and never would be a hardware company???
I read it and as they aren't I don't buy stuff that doesn't exist... Remember He never lies!
Logitech make very nice mice and on my Vaio I have a very small Dexxa wheel mouse. But my next mouse will be a Wacom Graphire.
realkiwi
Does he have a CRACK WHORE fetish? Is that why he moved to Harlem?
The owls are not what they seem
I purchased a mouseman wheel optical when they first came out a couple of years ago. I've been very pleased with this mouse. It has 4 buttons + wheel, which is surely enough for anyone. The design is very comfortable, plus if you look at Intellimouse Explorer it appears to be very similar in design to the mouseman. Another cool feature of the mouseman, is the blue LED that is USB powered. It looks really cool in the dark too. I've looked at the newer wireless mice, but I have no reason to go wireless plus it isn't the same form factor as the mouseman wheel.
Besides, I like women with a healthy amount of meat on their bones -- not these anorectic excuses for a woman you tend to meet today. Hell, I'm only 32 and yet today's freshman university girls I see on my lectures every day quite frankly horrify me. Every day there's like a row of skeletons with makeup greeting me on the front-row.
The owls are not what they seem
I went optical, and it works just fine. Im tired of cleaning my balls. And the mouse flick works just as it always did. The flick was not really about the mouse, but more about the mouse pad area. You can still life an optical mouse and gain more space. At least I do and havent noticed an issue with it.
Certainly optical mice track better than balls. A ball has a certain amount of inherent loss in its movement.
In any event, I wont admit to actually consulting the "pros" but in my own personal experience, I like this mouse and i have yet to blame it for any of my deaths.
I have to give a big thumbs up to buttonless mice. I've been fighting an RSI in my mouse hand for a couple of years. Since I've switched to a buttonless mouse it has cleared up entirely. I highly recommend anyone with mouse hand problems try one.
It is an apple mouse. You don't miss the buttons under Mac OS, I run about half the time in X and I've just learned to use the extra modifier keys to get the other buttons. It becomes automatic after a day.
(Not that I'm a clicking fiend, the injury probably originated while playing a string of shows with a bluegrass band. 240 notes/minute, 80/finger/minute on the right hand for three hours a day is a lot of finger pulling for a bass player. I had to stop doing that, but the hand didn't heal until I switched mice.)
Most 2-button mice have it setup so you hit both left and right buttons together to get the middle button. How could you do that on this mouse since you can only "swing" one direction at a time?
I started with severe shooting pains in my right hand due to too many hours of work, programming for school, and mostly because of playing Diablo II.
I started using my right hand for mousing and developed the shooting pains within a couple of months (which is odd, since it took almost 8 years of computing to develop the pain in my right hand).
I tried several mice, but the trackball worked best. Not all trackballs are created equal, however. Some of them require you to push the buttons with the standard pointer and middle finger. These did nothing for the pain.
Finally, I found an excellent trackball that is both ambidextrous AND allows the left and right mouse button to be pushed with the pinky and thumb instead of the standard fingers. It's also Optical so I don't need to clean the damn thing every week. It's the Logitech Marble mouse , and it rocks.
I found the most difficult part to get used to is not having the scrool button. It took longer to get used to that than switching from my right to left hand. Now I can use a trackball or standard mouse in either hand with equal ease.
Unfortunately, it is not feasible to bring a trackball to work because I am always sitting at a different terminal, so I had to adopt a method where I use my right hand to guide the mouse and push the buttons with my right hand (while using the muscles in my wrist and not my fingers) to do the mouse. It's only a little counterproductive, and it's better than not being able to work...
I can understand why Apple ships machines with a one button mouse. MacOS has a global menu bar and, was design for one button mice...more or less. Things such as important desktop tasks are located in the finder's menu bar.
However a one button mouse with a windows or linux system would seriously annoy the hell out of me.
This is a nich market mouse that is probably only going to be bought by mac users or people building public terminals.
"Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
I never thought that parody would become reality... check out this 1998 parody Stupidamouse.
Im talking about normal women, not some beach babes who cant eat or drink for the fear of getting "fat" but keep taking speed instead.
I'm talking about the likes of Kate Winslet.
The owls are not what they seem
(I don't work for logitech.)
I've been using it for almost a year now (bought it when it came out). It is wonderful. I've been playing all kinds of games with it, tried my friend's Razor Boomslang, this is definitely better. I like the shape, although I suspect some of the bigger mice (like MS Optical) may be more comfortable for the hand. Batteries work for two or three months (I use rechargeable so it's more like a month and then I spend 5 seconds replacing them with charged ones). Doesn't need a pad, doesn't collect residue like ball mice. Windows detects it as a standard HID device, so no drivers needed. Not bad at all, I say it's definitely worth the money.
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I haven't used a mouse for years, my logitech trackball works so much better.With a thick pad in front of it, it is much more comfortable, and the control is much tighter. For my laptop, I have a little trackball that you wear like a big ring, beats the crap out of wearing a hole in the finger with the little red thing in the keyboard. Of course for Photoshop nothing comes close to the wacom artz 12x12 tablet.
So who needs a mouse of any ilk.
I bought one of these in Japan in July 2001. And CNET Asia ran this review of the product in October 2001. Sheesh. So much for cutting edge news on
The world won't end in darkness, it'll end in family fun, with Coca-cola clouds behind a Big Mac sun.
I used to say exactly what you are saying. I would always check out an older laptop at school just to get the nipple because I simple hating the touch pads. However, have you tried the newer laptop touch pads? The technology has improved greatly in the last year or so.
I've recently used the touchpad on the newer Apple iBook/Titaniums and some new Toshiba laptops we have, and it is excellent. I've switched to it and now can't stand going back to the nipple when I am forced to, but when I use some of the older touchpad laptops, I get irritated at how sloppy they are.
This is an optical mouse leaning the mouse doesn't stop movement unless you lift it off the desk more than sensitivity of the optics allows. this can vary widely, some optical mice will still have motion a full centimeter off the desk.
This is why the 'underwater computer' uses an optical mouse. Basically technology has made that joke obsolete.
Even with a desktop I use an external trackpad. The trackpad is the best mouse ever! NO need for room to operate it!
The parent to this post is trolling. The link is perfectly fine.
1x1 .gif file tiled to set the background color? GAH!!!!
ups to #dlf
My housemate pointed this out to me and I tend to agree:
Doesn't this memepool link seem to "suggest" this buttonless mouse?
Just a theory, of course...
New mouse designs are nice, but why not just fix the existing mice's problems ?
Personally, I'd like to have an analog scroll wheel. Of course that would require enhanced software support. Something precise enough to move pixel-by-pixel. Perhaps with a physical switch to re-enable the click marks, which would be necessary in games which use the wheel to switch weapons or inventory items, etc.
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It looks like it doesn't come with a middle button (I don't see anywhere about a pushable wheel). You can't even emulate three buttons because you can press *either* the left or the right button, but not both! :(
Here's a really useful buttonless mouse, the Stupidamouse.
...who uses an ibm scrollpoint? After using a mouse with a joystick, you'll never want to use a scroll wheel again. Force sensitive vertical and horizontal scrolling just rules. I wish more companies would use this technology, maybe ibm has a patent, I dunno...
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