Considering that it's almost ten years *over* the projected lifetime and about one-tenth the projected maintenance, I'd say mir is pretty damn tough.
No, I'm not Russian....
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
From an article in which a Zimbabwe politician was quoted as saying that children should study this event closely for it shows that election fraud is not only a third world phenomenon...
1. Imagine that we read of an election occuring anywhere in the third world in which the self-declared winner was the son of the former prime minister and that former prime minister was himself the former head of that nation's secret police (cia).
2. Imagine that the self-declared winner lost the popular vote but won based on some old colonial holdover (electoral college) from the nation's pre-democracy past.
3. Imagine that the self-declared winner's 'victory' turned on disputed votes cast in a province governed by his brother!
4. Imagine that the poorly drafted ballots of one district, a district heavily favoring the self-declared winner's opponent, led thousands of voters to vote for the wrong candidate.
5. Imagine that that members of that nation's most despised caste, fearing for their lives/livelihoods, turned out in record numbers to vote in near-universal opposition to the self-declared winner's candidacy.
6. Imagine that hundreds of members of that most-despised caste were intercepted on their way to the polls by state police operating under the authority of the self-declared winner's brother.
7. Imagine that six million people voted in the disputed province and that the self-declared winner's 'lead' was only 327 votes. Fewer, certainly, than the vote counting machines' margin of error.
8. Imagine that the self-declared winner and his political party opposed a more careful by-hand inspection and re-counting of the ballots in the disputed province or in its most hotly disputed district.
9. Imagine that the self-declared winner, himself a governor of a major province, had the worst human rights record of any province in his nation and actually led the nation in executions.
10. Imagine that a major campaign promise of the self-declared winner was to appoint like-minded human rights violators to lifetime positions on the high court of that nation.
None of us would deem such an election to be representative of anything other than the self-declared winner's will-to-power. All of us, I imagine, would wearily turn the page thinking that it was another sad tale of pitiful pre- or anti-democracy peoples in some strange elsewhere."
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
For that money you'd get beos pro with dev. tools included. No offense but there's no way in hell (a.k.a. when hell freezes over) that I would pay $100 to get a dev kit for something unexisting which *might* become available, but for which noone will develop since they charge for for the kit .:) Seriously, they should pay attention to the os2 vs windows 3.1 war: ibm charged for their sdk, M$ gave theirs away...
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
JohnC is anything but "one employee in a company". Apart from *owning* a large slice of id he is also it's reason for existence. There is no id without JohnC, he is their chief developer (the other coders do debug and support systems such as vendor specific opengl tuning and gui rendering...) as well as "the man with the vision". To fire him would be like shooting the goose that lays the ($30mil-a-year) golden eggs..
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
Very important points (was Pathetic!)
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Why Not MySQL?
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all software has flaws and if you understand the software and pick the appropriate peice for your needs then everything works fine
Correct! These are some very important flaws. If you're not too worried about the integrity of your data or ease of programming, then you shouldn't use MySQL. *However* this is a bit like saying that if you're not too worried about stability you should use Win95! (Yeah, right)
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
... the ati radeon will be enough to compete against the geforce2 (assuming they get it out on time), the maxx version will eat it for breakfast (maxx is the twin-proc. smp version of the ati cards...)
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
QNX is a RTOS designed for embeded systems. As far as stability is concerned, nothing less than a mainframe gets near it: I mean, how many times have you swaped out your kernel without rebooting in *any* unix?
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
A coupple of years ago, i remember reading here about a project to build a strong-arm system on a PCI card. Each card would have up to 8 cpu's. The idea was to build a cheap multiple-node cluster: fit 4 of these cards on a pc and you would have a 32-cpu machine with pci-bandwith comunications....
Whatever happened to this project?
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
Goddamn, so it was. And by BE itself. Wow! For all you cl-obsessives out there, I would like to point out that this is the only gui that even mac-fanatics admit is as easy as MacOs's.
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
>can you please justify pissing a good portion of >your users off several times a week with the >innane rantings of a crazed lunatic?
There are far more people who actually *like* Jon Katz than those who hate him. He sees things in a... diferent light.
Why don't you simply ignore him? Why do you want to stop me and others like me from listening to him? What those who hate him are doing is simply censorship... which I consider even worse than govt. censorship, since you at least SHOULD KNOW BETTER!
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
His audience is *not* meant be a lay audience, if by lay you mean comon, average, urbanite person. He's simply speaking about something that most of us usually ignore: The social repercussions/implications of the stories surrounding our litle (closed & closed-minded) world.
For most of us this is a perspective which is as difficult to understand as a race condition in a dev kernel would be to a baby-sitter.
It does not mean that it's superficial simply if it does not mention *every friggin technical detail* and instead has a lot of what seems to be white-noise but is actually another mind-set altogether.
As for audiences, I *know* I'm not the only one interested in his articles, and I've been coming here since this was "chips and dips". I've never undersood why so much noise about seing those 50 or so characters in the index page....
Most of his detractors seem to be obssessed with self-censorship (by the way, what do *you* think about "net-nanny" the self-censoring software where YOU choose what you want to censor from your own eyes?)
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
>What makes you think that you can speak for those of us who are?
He's not speaking for us. He's not even speaking *to* us. He's just speaking *about* us from a diferent perspective (aint it nice that we can get more than one viewpoint here..)
He's never said that he's our banner. He's doing what he does best, being a journalist, looking at the big (much bigger than our litle world) picture and how we fit in it. As to why, he's made it quite clear on many ocasions that our mind-set fascinates him. Why this, I don't know, until I was 12 I thought everyone thought like me...
The view he presents is actually very much in depth, just simply not technical. The depths he pursues are of a social-psicological perspective and thus, quite out of the bounds of our usual interests. *that's* usually why some many of us hate him, he speaks lot about what seems to be nothing
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
>I grew up reading Science Fiction of the type of Heinlein, Asimov, etc.. VERY wordy authors.. Damn right! and very good at it.
You actually managed to put into words what I was thinking about, but couldn't put into words: that most people who so venomenously complain about Katz seem to miss the point of his essays because they do not *make the effort* to follow through to the end. He doesn't make his points simple, direct ant to the point because his subjects are not "simple, direct and to the point".
These are not tecnical Man-pages, folks, you can't have a black-on-white statement about these topics without mentioning all the multiple sounds and tastes since just mentioning the shades of grey is too restrictive.
Also another interesting point about these people is that many of them would be just as vicious about condemning self-censorship software... and then they complain that they "can't filter Jon Katz out". Pornography, vile pornography.;)
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
He's not a gasbag, he is, ironicaly, speaking about something which most of this crowd have no interest in: social movements. Let's face it, most geeks are interested in our machines and whatever directly affects that, not large viewpoints about all the massive changes to society which our behaviour is influencing.
Which is a pity...
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
I apologise for such a futile comment, but Hemos has hit the nail smack-bang on the head. I've been controlling myself about this, but it's extremely frustating trying to read some *inteligent* comments about the article (be they negative or positive) when half the friggin posts are by people complaining that since the author isn't Katz, the filtering system didn't work.
This , as the brits say, is not cricket!
Folks, one friggin article mentioning Katz is not going to make an otherwise enjoyable day into hell-on-earth!
If you feel that badly about Katz, go ahead make *1* (one) post about filtering, mail Rob (politely) and ask him to code up something to filter this, whatever, but be polite, and understanding about the fact that SOME OF US actually enjoy discussing such flighty, light and superficial (your words, not mine) articles such as these.
And you're mucking it up for the rest of us...
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
Apart from all the gui's-suck comments, quartz (the technology itself) is a brilliant piece of work! A built-in 2d renderer with support for PDF with all that entails. Yes, Aqua is glitzy and flashy and probably not as intuitive as the old interface, but the technology underneath it is what calls my attention.
*That* I consider innovation. I wish we had more of that in Linux...
I suppose someone will now announce a Open-Source project to *copy* Quartz'z functions...
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
It does not mattter if M$'s implementation is crappy or not, if bind dumps core, it's buggy. With any software, if you input the wrong info, it should, at most, output an error code/message. Bind is buggy!
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
Uh, Mac OS 7 came out *after* Win95... When Win95 came out, Apple had just introduced, if I remember correctly, OS 6.5. They were criticised severely for it because it was the first upgrade for a long time (at the time) and din't resolve almost any of the problems of OS 6.
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
Apple was right to sue the look-alike manufacturers. but this is different, specially if you consider that whoever did this seems to be getting no money off it. Apple won against the iMac look-alikes 'cause they were benefiting (finacially) from Apple's marketing work for the iMac.
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
... the Next file thingamabob (can't remember the name). Microsoft mentioned, when Win95 was introduced, that the explorer was based on (among others) the very same Next file manager. Remember that OS X is suposed to be based on Next's OS.
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
Don't assume that mozilla is a good representation of all Open-Source projects. Have you forgotten all the biggies ? I'm talking about those litle things, you know, Linux, Apache, Samba... They're all Open Source.....
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
They're not going to port over to a bsd/x-windows system but to the carbon API which is basicaly OS9's cleaned up and much improved. A few are even porting to cocoa (kinda openstep plus)but the system call are (very much) specific to OS X.
And you can bet that good ol' Stevie ain't gona give us the source to *those*.
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
... don't you read ESR's article about Netscape's then possible open-sourcing of Navigator?
The whole point of the "bazaar" method of development is to attempt to defeat the "mithical man-month" of development by collecting contributions from as many developers as possible.
If you really wish to develop and debug your source, publish the damn thing! Remember: you don't *have* to integrate what you don't want back into the source. Linus doesn't...
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
You managed to complain about the lack of two of the *most annoying* "features" of current X-based interfaces. I *hate* those two with a vengeance, since things can change without a clear sign from me, the user, simply by bumping the mouse...
Na, Linux has some great interfaces, but nothing near as good as MacOS. BTW "Cool looking" != "Good"
... Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
Slashdot Mirror
Considering that it's almost ten years *over* the projected lifetime and about one-tenth the projected maintenance, I'd say mir is pretty damn tough.
No, I'm not Russian....
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
From an article in which a Zimbabwe politician was quoted as saying that children should study this event closely for it shows that election fraud is not only a third world phenomenon...
1. Imagine that we read of an election occuring anywhere in the third world in which the self-declared winner was the son of the former prime minister and that former prime minister was himself the former head of that nation's secret police (cia).
2. Imagine that the self-declared winner lost the popular vote but won based on some old colonial holdover (electoral college) from the nation's pre-democracy past.
3. Imagine that the self-declared winner's 'victory' turned on disputed votes cast in a province governed by his brother!
4. Imagine that the poorly drafted ballots of one district, a district heavily favoring the self-declared winner's opponent, led thousands of voters to vote for the wrong candidate.
5. Imagine that that members of that nation's most despised caste, fearing for their lives/livelihoods, turned out in record numbers to vote in near-universal opposition to the self-declared winner's candidacy.
6. Imagine that hundreds of members of that most-despised caste were intercepted on their way to the polls by state police operating under the authority of the self-declared winner's brother.
7. Imagine that six million people voted in the disputed province and that the self-declared winner's 'lead' was only 327 votes. Fewer, certainly, than the vote counting machines' margin of error.
8. Imagine that the self-declared winner and his political party opposed a more careful by-hand inspection and re-counting of the ballots in the disputed province or in its most hotly disputed district.
9. Imagine that the self-declared winner, himself a governor of a major province, had the worst human rights record of any province in his nation and actually led the nation in executions.
10. Imagine that a major campaign promise of the self-declared winner was to appoint like-minded human rights violators to lifetime positions on the high court of that nation.
None of us would deem such an election to be representative of anything other than the self-declared winner's will-to-power. All of us, I imagine, would wearily turn the page thinking that it was another sad tale of pitiful pre- or anti-democracy peoples in some strange elsewhere."
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
I never understood why someone with more money should have a louder voice/bigger amplifier than someone with less.....
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
For that money you'd get beos pro with dev. tools included. :)
No offense but there's no way in hell (a.k.a. when hell freezes over) that I would pay $100 to get a dev kit for something unexisting which *might* become available, but for which noone will develop since they charge for for the kit .
Seriously, they should pay attention to the os2 vs windows 3.1 war: ibm charged for their sdk, M$ gave theirs away...
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
JohnC is anything but "one employee in a company".
Apart from *owning* a large slice of id he is also it's reason for existence. There is no id without JohnC, he is their chief developer (the other coders do debug and support systems such as vendor specific opengl tuning and gui rendering...) as well as "the man with the vision". To fire him would be like shooting the goose that lays the ($30mil-a-year) golden eggs..
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
all software has flaws and if you understand the software and pick the appropriate peice for your needs then everything works fine
Correct! These are some very important flaws. If you're not too worried about the integrity of your data or ease of programming, then you shouldn't use MySQL. *However* this is a bit like saying that if you're not too worried about stability you should use Win95! (Yeah, right)
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
... the ati radeon will be enough to compete against the geforce2 (assuming they get it out on time), the maxx version will eat it for breakfast (maxx is the twin-proc. smp version of the ati cards...)
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
QNX is a RTOS designed for embeded systems. As far as stability is concerned, nothing less than a mainframe gets near it: I mean, how many times have you swaped out your kernel without rebooting in *any* unix?
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
A coupple of years ago, i remember reading here about a project to build a strong-arm system on a PCI card. Each card would have up to 8 cpu's.
The idea was to build a cheap multiple-node cluster: fit 4 of these cards on a pc and you would have a 32-cpu machine with pci-bandwith comunications....
Whatever happened to this project?
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
Goddamn, so it was. And by BE itself.
Wow! For all you cl-obsessives out there, I would like to point out that this is the only gui that even mac-fanatics admit is as easy as MacOs's.
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
>can you please justify pissing a good portion of
... diferent light.
... which I consider even worse than govt. censorship, since you at least SHOULD KNOW BETTER!
>your users off several times a week with the
>innane rantings of a crazed lunatic?
There are far more people who actually *like* Jon Katz than those who hate him. He sees things in a
Why don't you simply ignore him? Why do you want to stop me and others like me from listening to him?
What those who hate him are doing is simply censorship
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
His audience is *not* meant be a lay audience, if by lay you mean comon, average, urbanite person.
He's simply speaking about something that most of us usually ignore: The social repercussions/implications of the stories surrounding our litle (closed & closed-minded) world.
For most of us this is a perspective which is as difficult to understand as a race condition in a dev kernel would be to a baby-sitter.
It does not mean that it's superficial simply if it does not mention *every friggin technical detail* and instead has a lot of what seems to be white-noise but is actually another mind-set altogether.
As for audiences, I *know* I'm not the only one interested in his articles, and I've been coming here since this was "chips and dips". I've never undersood why so much noise about seing those 50 or so characters in the index page....
Most of his detractors seem to be obssessed with self-censorship (by the way, what do *you* think about "net-nanny" the self-censoring software where YOU choose what you want to censor from your own eyes?)
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
>What makes you think that you can speak for those of us who are?
He's not speaking for us. He's not even speaking *to* us. He's just speaking *about* us from a diferent perspective (aint it nice that we can get more than one viewpoint here..)
He's never said that he's our banner. He's doing what he does best, being a journalist, looking at the big (much bigger than our litle world) picture and how we fit in it. As to why, he's made it quite clear on many ocasions that our mind-set fascinates him. Why this, I don't know, until I was 12 I thought everyone thought like me...
The view he presents is actually very much in depth, just simply not technical. The depths he pursues are of a social-psicological perspective and thus, quite out of the bounds of our usual interests. *that's* usually why some many of us hate him, he speaks lot about what seems to be nothing
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
>I grew up reading Science Fiction of the type of Heinlein, Asimov, etc.. VERY wordy authors..
;)
Damn right! and very good at it.
You actually managed to put into words what I was thinking about, but couldn't put into words: that most people who so venomenously complain about Katz seem to miss the point of his essays because they do not *make the effort* to follow through to the end. He doesn't make his points simple, direct ant to the point because his subjects are not "simple, direct and to the point".
These are not tecnical Man-pages, folks, you can't have a black-on-white statement about these topics without mentioning all the multiple sounds and tastes since just mentioning the shades of grey is too restrictive.
Also another interesting point about these people is that many of them would be just as vicious about condemning self-censorship software... and then they complain that they "can't filter Jon Katz out". Pornography, vile pornography.
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
He's not a gasbag, he is, ironicaly, speaking about something which most of this crowd have no interest in: social movements. Let's face it, most geeks are interested in our machines and whatever directly affects that, not large viewpoints about all the massive changes to society which our behaviour is influencing.
Which is a pity...
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
I apologise for such a futile comment, but Hemos has hit the nail smack-bang on the head.
I've been controlling myself about this, but it's extremely frustating trying to read some *inteligent* comments about the article (be they negative or positive) when half the friggin posts are by people complaining that since the author isn't Katz, the filtering system didn't work.
This , as the brits say, is not cricket!
Folks, one friggin article mentioning Katz is not going to make an otherwise enjoyable day into hell-on-earth!
If you feel that badly about Katz, go ahead make *1* (one) post about filtering, mail Rob (politely) and ask him to code up something to filter this, whatever, but be polite, and understanding about the fact that SOME OF US actually enjoy discussing such flighty, light and superficial (your words, not mine) articles such as these.
And you're mucking it up for the rest of us...
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
Apart from all the gui's-suck comments, quartz (the technology itself) is a brilliant piece of work! A built-in 2d renderer with support for PDF with all that entails. Yes, Aqua is glitzy and flashy and probably not as intuitive as the old interface, but the technology underneath it is what calls my attention.
*That* I consider innovation. I wish we had more of that in Linux...
I suppose someone will now announce a Open-Source project to *copy* Quartz'z functions...
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
It does not mattter if M$'s implementation is crappy or not, if bind dumps core, it's buggy. With any software, if you input the wrong info, it should, at most, output an error code/message. Bind is buggy!
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
Uh, Mac OS 7 came out *after* Win95...
When Win95 came out, Apple had just introduced, if I remember correctly, OS 6.5.
They were criticised severely for it because it was the first upgrade for a long time (at the time) and din't resolve almost any of the problems of OS 6.
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
Apple was right to sue the look-alike manufacturers. but this is different, specially if you consider that whoever did this seems to be getting no money off it. Apple won against the iMac look-alikes 'cause they were benefiting (finacially) from Apple's marketing work for the iMac.
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
... the Next file thingamabob (can't remember the name).
Microsoft mentioned, when Win95 was introduced, that the explorer was based on (among others) the very same Next file manager. Remember that OS X is suposed to be based on Next's OS.
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
Don't assume that mozilla is a good representation of all Open-Source projects. Have you forgotten all the biggies ? I'm talking about those litle things, you know, Linux, Apache, Samba... They're all Open Source .....
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
They're not going to port over to a bsd/x-windows system but to the carbon API which is basicaly OS9's cleaned up and much improved. A few are even porting to cocoa (kinda openstep plus)but the system call are (very much) specific to OS X.
And you can bet that good ol' Stevie ain't gona give us the source to *those*.
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
... don't you read ESR's article about Netscape's then possible open-sourcing of Navigator?
...
The whole point of the "bazaar" method of development is to attempt to defeat the "mithical man-month" of development by collecting contributions from as many developers as possible.
If you really wish to develop and debug your source, publish the damn thing! Remember: you don't *have* to integrate what you don't want back into the source. Linus doesn't
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,
You managed to complain about the lack of two of the *most annoying* "features" of current X-based interfaces. I *hate* those two with a vengeance, since things can change without a clear sign from me, the user, simply by bumping the mouse...
Na, Linux has some great interfaces, but nothing near as good as MacOS.
BTW "Cool looking" != "Good"
...
Yes, I know I ramble and my spelling isn't quite up to scratch. If you wish to complain,