This one generally will keep me honest if my conscience should waffle. I took too many semesters of stats, risk analysis to see any sense in stealing, especially when you factor in the radical shifts in life style and the layers of lies necessary to cover the crime. I think for alot of crime there has to be chemical triggers.
I know a few people in the film industry and Production Assistants ( especially 3rds ) are usually people who have film degrees but have failed in every aspect of the business. Maybe the guy was in his 30s, knew he wasn't going any where and decided to deploy his own 'golden parachute'
Hi. First I slotted John Stuart Mill in where I intended to put John Locke... my excuse: I'm into day 3 of a killer cold I'm treating with excessive dosages of cold medicine and... uhm.. west coast 'herbs' (since I can't get any work done anyway )...
You wrote: "the Class that contains anything that is a Class"...perhaps the best quick, flu brained response is that the Class of classes would be defined in terms of it's elements (classes) not in terms of the elements comprising any one class defined as an member of the Class of classes. I'm not as well versed in Russell's theory as I intend to become and I'm coming at it, presently, more as a figure of speech to help me understand the attributes of any one individual as an artificer taking the tools necessary to making and communicating ideas from the store of the community. The link to language is obvious but I'm starting out from concepts of evolution, co-evolution, learning and mind characterized as stochastic and set out by G. Bateson in 'Mind and Nature'. I have to go sneeze and stuff now.
From the article: "why we need to pass a new set of laws to criminalize the behavior of ordinary citizens or, worse still, why we want to find a new way of disenfranchising and criminalizing our youth..."
Further:
"Intellectual property is owned by the public and in essence leased to authors and inventors. A temporary economic advantage for authors and inventors is created because a hopefully more valuable benefit will accrue to the public, and ultimately the lease expires and all rights return to the general public..."
Further:
"Economic advantage is not in and of itself a valid purpose or justification for copyright or patent laws..."
The above quotes seem to encapsulate the author's view point. I have spent the last year trying to come to some understanding of the roots of the arguments the author is speaking out against. While I'm far from any conclusions the arguments in favour of the draconian measures criminalizing the consumer have ancient roots. Morally, the 19th c. German philosopher F. Nietzsche suggested the Christian morallity that is given to underlie the founding of America and Canada and much of Western Civilization is a slave mentality. Without looking at his arguments in detail it might serve to balance his view against the ideas of John Stuart Mill whose views on property rights were so extreme that the rights of citizenship were inextricably tied to ownership of property. Mill is the architect of modern democracy. Over and above views like those of Nietzsche and Mill there is a more pervasive and difficult argument derived, for me, from Russell's 'Theory of Types'. A Class cannot be a member of itself, but neither can a member of a class represent the class. What I'm busy trying to ferret out is whether there's a cogent argument to be drawn from the Theory of Types to intellectual property rights properly belonging to the community as the author of the article pointed out. I can't see that any argument can ultimately suggest any one individual can possibly invent in any other guise than as a member of the set represented by the community. Having said this I suspect the drive to overthrow the rights of the community comes not so much from the 'captains of industry' but rather from the lawyers who serve the legal enitity that is the modern corporation. While I'm far from ready to set out a detailed argument I think that when we gave the legal rights of individuals to legal fictions like corporations we undertook an experiment repugnant to nature akin to that of Dr. Frankenstein.
It's late and I'm too stoned to be posting but isn't the migration of every electronic form of communication a good thang? Then comes mythical intuitive GUIs, and finally integration in cross-realtional dbs.
Although I had chemistry sets from a very early age, the first memorable, school science experiment I recall was in jr. high physics, 1st experiment: describe all the empirically recordable attributes of a lit candle. I don't know why, but I really wanted to ace that one but (bad pun but really) I got smoked.
As a Canadian I'm apathetic and hopelessly ambivalent. But if it's offered it would be impolite to say no. Queen Elizabeth, now visiting during her Golden Jubilee, during one of her earlier visits to Nova Scotia was presented with a giant, fiberglass lobster. She was given a giant, fiberglass lobster because the fine folks of Nova Scotia found out she didn't have one. I'm sure the federal government in is similar vein is issuing online identity certificates. Remeber, identity is an ongoing national struggle for Canadians so every little bit helps.
I think good questions are more important than bad or large numbers of answers? Perhaps more especially in Philosophy it's necessary to have a working hypothesis 'in mind' whilst culling relevant material. The PC and the net have fundamentally changed forever the idea that someone new to a subject can hope to peruse the revlevant material simply because the amount of data is overwhelming. The Guttenberg revolution is an ancient era and polymaths like Goethe may be a thing of the past simply because of the amount of material Information Techonology makes available. It's interesting the article spoke to 'developing nations'. There is now a double divide between the developed world and the developing world. There is the divide of literacy and now the divide of Information Technology. It'll be interesting if the Information Technology can be made to help in lessening illiteracy or if the one will act to deepen the divide. There is too computer illiteracy to consider and this with the physical barrier of ownership of the hardware exacerbates the problem.
Dood! William Empson's "Seven Types of Ambiguity" and N.O.Brown's "Life Against Death", wherein he advocated 'polymorphous perversity', informed my posts. I made a lighthearted jibe at a random bit in the newsbyte. When I got some robust replys I decided to play push the button labelled 'American Gun Culture', but I threw in the Monroe Doctrine to see if it would hit a nerve, the 'foreign policy' stuff was mostly a troll.
There's just so many ways to reply... but to stay with the ambience... how 'bout we've already kicked your ass at hockey, now we're just trying to help you see things a little more multilaterally.:0
It was a Cooey long rifle single shot, simple bolt action; I grew up with it as I grew up hunting. If you find my father's serious intent to teach his hunting and wilderness skills to his only son incredible, then you'll be dumbfounded to know I was born having inherited my great grandfathers 1894 44/40 Winchester. I no longer own it although I had a strong attachement to it. My dad's people trapped the tiaga for generations and hunting and wilderness lore were passed on almost like training for a trade.
You wrote: "How typically Canadian. Instilling Canadian gun culture in 4 year old children. Digusting!" Perhaps my perspective stems more from the value and education placed upon a gun. Seeing gun ownership as an extention of your Constitutional Rights and a necessary control upon your elected officials seems to play into the the perennial fascination Americans have with the wild mythos of the 'True West', not to mention the ultimate political extension in the form of the Monroe Doctrine.A gun to me is utilitarian object but potentially dangerous and is to be treated as such. Perhaps where my first introduction to gun lore was by way of two injunctions: (1) Treat every gun as if it were loaded; (2) Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to shoot, perhaps the 'merican ethos is more akin to threaten to shoot as a matter of foreign policy.
My history comes from 6 prior generations of Canadians on my father side; the family beginnings in Canada stem from two brothers originally from Norway. On my mother's side I'm 4th generation Canadian of german extraction. My german forebearers where journey carpenters, and farmers. They came up the Oregon Trail and dispersed throughout the Dakotas and the Canadian prairie. They sheltered the first winter in sod huts made of sod and rootwork. I have had devolve upon me generations of farm lore and gun lore. My family has served in many of Canada' wars and rebellions. My knowledge of guns started at the age of four when my first.22 calibre single shot rifle was purchased for me. I have lived in major metropolitan areas since beginning universtiy and no longer own guns because I think they should be under, supervised lock and key in urban areas and I have no need to kill my own game. ( Although I'm more than able to do so ) So you see I not only know my country's history I am the living history of my country since before it came into being as the modern nation you know it to be. Fuck you:)
My favourite quote: "in the Gunbarrel area...". Americans! You're so damn steeped in gun culture you name neighbourhoods after weapons' parts. It just makes a canajen boy shake his head and celebrate the difference.
System : Biosphere Critical Values ('there are no Monotone Values in Biology' G. Bateson Mind & Nature ' homeostatsis runaway positive feedback (sex and death) negative feedback good luck
Slashdot Mirror
October 14, 2002
Will Big Business Dictate Public Interest?
By Jim Wagner
http://www.gotdotnet.com/community/workspaces/
Who comes up with something like www.gotdotnet.com ?"What the hell ever happened to someone just being a "crook"?
He had the tapes erased and he was President so they let him go.Have you considered speech therapy?
"The risk is almost never worth the item stolen."
This one generally will keep me honest if my conscience should waffle. I took too many semesters of stats, risk analysis to see any sense in stealing, especially when you factor in the radical shifts in life style and the layers of lies necessary to cover the crime. I think for alot of crime there has to be chemical triggers.It could be a tennis racket, it could be software, you own it you're going to tinker with it and make it yours... sounds like all my relationships
I know a few people in the film industry and Production Assistants ( especially 3rds ) are usually people who have film degrees but have failed in every aspect of the business. Maybe the guy was in his 30s, knew he wasn't going any where and decided to deploy his own 'golden parachute'
You wrote: "the Class that contains anything that is a Class" ...perhaps the best quick, flu brained response is that the Class of classes would be defined in terms of it's elements (classes) not in terms of the elements comprising any one class defined as an member of the Class of classes. I'm not as well versed in Russell's theory as I intend to become and I'm coming at it, presently, more as a figure of speech to help me understand the attributes of any one individual as an artificer taking the tools necessary to making and communicating ideas from the store of the community. The link to language is obvious but I'm starting out from concepts of evolution, co-evolution, learning and mind characterized as stochastic and set out by G. Bateson in 'Mind and Nature'. I have to go sneeze and stuff now.
Further: "Intellectual property is owned by the public and in essence leased to authors and inventors. A temporary economic advantage for authors and inventors is created because a hopefully more valuable benefit will accrue to the public, and ultimately the lease expires and all rights return to the general public..."
Further: "Economic advantage is not in and of itself a valid purpose or justification for copyright or patent laws..."
The above quotes seem to encapsulate the author's view point. I have spent the last year trying to come to some understanding of the roots of the arguments the author is speaking out against. While I'm far from any conclusions the arguments in favour of the draconian measures criminalizing the consumer have ancient roots. Morally, the 19th c. German philosopher F. Nietzsche suggested the Christian morallity that is given to underlie the founding of America and Canada and much of Western Civilization is a slave mentality. Without looking at his arguments in detail it might serve to balance his view against the ideas of John Stuart Mill whose views on property rights were so extreme that the rights of citizenship were inextricably tied to ownership of property. Mill is the architect of modern democracy. Over and above views like those of Nietzsche and Mill there is a more pervasive and difficult argument derived, for me, from Russell's 'Theory of Types'. A Class cannot be a member of itself, but neither can a member of a class represent the class. What I'm busy trying to ferret out is whether there's a cogent argument to be drawn from the Theory of Types to intellectual property rights properly belonging to the community as the author of the article pointed out. I can't see that any argument can ultimately suggest any one individual can possibly invent in any other guise than as a member of the set represented by the community. Having said this I suspect the drive to overthrow the rights of the community comes not so much from the 'captains of industry' but rather from the lawyers who serve the legal enitity that is the modern corporation. While I'm far from ready to set out a detailed argument I think that when we gave the legal rights of individuals to legal fictions like corporations we undertook an experiment repugnant to nature akin to that of Dr. Frankenstein.
It's late and I'm too stoned to be posting but isn't the migration of every electronic form of communication a good thang? Then comes mythical intuitive GUIs, and finally integration in cross-realtional dbs.
Although I had chemistry sets from a very early age, the first memorable, school science experiment I recall was in jr. high physics, 1st experiment: describe all the empirically recordable attributes of a lit candle. I don't know why, but I really wanted to ace that one but (bad pun but really) I got smoked.
As a Canadian I'm apathetic and hopelessly ambivalent. But if it's offered it would be impolite to say no. Queen Elizabeth, now visiting during her Golden Jubilee, during one of her earlier visits to Nova Scotia was presented with a giant, fiberglass lobster. She was given a giant, fiberglass lobster because the fine folks of Nova Scotia found out she didn't have one. I'm sure the federal government in is similar vein is issuing online identity certificates. Remeber, identity is an ongoing national struggle for Canadians so every little bit helps.
...when fish decided to find a place to ride bicycles
virtual reality
virtual sex
virtual medicine
virtual sexually transmitted diseases?
virtual treatment?
And who's gonna treat the cyborgs?
I think good questions are more important than bad or large numbers of answers? Perhaps more especially in Philosophy it's necessary to have a working hypothesis 'in mind' whilst culling relevant material. The PC and the net have fundamentally changed forever the idea that someone new to a subject can hope to peruse the revlevant material simply because the amount of data is overwhelming. The Guttenberg revolution is an ancient era and polymaths like Goethe may be a thing of the past simply because of the amount of material Information Techonology makes available. It's interesting the article spoke to 'developing nations'. There is now a double divide between the developed world and the developing world. There is the divide of literacy and now the divide of Information Technology. It'll be interesting if the Information Technology can be made to help in lessening illiteracy or if the one will act to deepen the divide. There is too computer illiteracy to consider and this with the physical barrier of ownership of the hardware exacerbates the problem.
I'm regestering with the nic "Hannibal Lector"
Dood! William Empson's "Seven Types of Ambiguity" and N.O.Brown's "Life Against Death", wherein he advocated 'polymorphous perversity', informed my posts. I made a lighthearted jibe at a random bit in the newsbyte. When I got some robust replys I decided to play push the button labelled 'American Gun Culture', but I threw in the Monroe Doctrine to see if it would hit a nerve, the 'foreign policy' stuff was mostly a troll.
There's just so many ways to reply... but to stay with the ambience... how 'bout we've already kicked your ass at hockey, now we're just trying to help you see things a little more multilaterally. :0
It was a Cooey long rifle single shot, simple bolt action; I grew up with it as I grew up hunting. If you find my father's serious intent to teach his hunting and wilderness skills to his only son incredible, then you'll be dumbfounded to know I was born having inherited my great grandfathers 1894 44/40 Winchester. I no longer own it although I had a strong attachement to it. My dad's people trapped the tiaga for generations and hunting and wilderness lore were passed on almost like training for a trade.
O.K. aka Izzak Walton... right you are I was trolling.
You wrote: "How typically Canadian. Instilling Canadian gun culture in 4 year old children. Digusting!" Perhaps my perspective stems more from the value and education placed upon a gun. Seeing gun ownership as an extention of your Constitutional Rights and a necessary control upon your elected officials seems to play into the the perennial fascination Americans have with the wild mythos of the 'True West', not to mention the ultimate political extension in the form of the Monroe Doctrine.A gun to me is utilitarian object but potentially dangerous and is to be treated as such. Perhaps where my first introduction to gun lore was by way of two injunctions: (1) Treat every gun as if it were loaded; (2) Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to shoot, perhaps the 'merican ethos is more akin to threaten to shoot as a matter of foreign policy.
My history comes from 6 prior generations of Canadians on my father side; the family beginnings in Canada stem from two brothers originally from Norway. On my mother's side I'm 4th generation Canadian of german extraction. My german forebearers where journey carpenters, and farmers. They came up the Oregon Trail and dispersed throughout the Dakotas and the Canadian prairie. They sheltered the first winter in sod huts made of sod and rootwork. I have had devolve upon me generations of farm lore and gun lore. My family has served in many of Canada' wars and rebellions. My knowledge of guns started at the age of four when my first .22 calibre single shot rifle was purchased for me. I have lived in major metropolitan areas since beginning universtiy and no longer own guns because I think they should be under, supervised lock and key in urban areas and I have no need to kill my own game. ( Although I'm more than able to do so ) So you see I not only know my country's history I am the living history of my country since before it came into being as the modern nation you know it to be. Fuck you :)
D00d! take your meds... now.
My favourite quote: "in the Gunbarrel area...". Americans! You're so damn steeped in gun culture you name neighbourhoods after weapons' parts. It just makes a canajen boy shake his head and celebrate the difference.
System : Biosphere
Critical Values ('there are no Monotone Values in Biology' G. Bateson Mind & Nature '
homeostatsis
runaway
positive feedback (sex and death)
negative feedback
good luck