i agree with you mostly... what i do now, could properly be called "systems engineering"... it isnt science, as we arent really researching new bits, but we are engineers. (we use existing science in practical ways to build solutions that are bulletproof)
and i do agree that the term "engineer" is thrown around a whole lot mor than it deserves to be. Systems administrators calling themselves "engineers" is an insult to those true engineers that killed themselves in college trying to pass that Partial Integrals course while others got their MSCE and think they are engineers now.
engineers are professionals on the order of doctors and lawyers. yes, i said that right. tell me, would you want your next bridge designed by someone who took a 2 week course in "click and build bridges" or someone who spent 4-5 years of intense study?
same thing in the computer field. you get what you pay for, and you get the level of education they have received. Most MSCE's are almost "priest like" (in an Asimov Foundation sense) in that they only know the ceremony to get their computer to work without any understanding of how it works and why.
my biggest problem with this is - how the hell is MS going to get the next generation of low-level coders for their products? no one knows low-level, and the kids arent exposed to it, who's going to code Bill's truly next generation OS?
oh yeh... that will definitely help when you've got a memory leak the size of ontario from a program that stopped executing an hour ago.
or, you've got a pointer that went off its bounds and started writing all over its instructions, and the program crahes 1000 lines after the viiolation....
you forgot "rename and change the API to one of our technologies and call it 'new' - have we redone ActiveX lately? oh, thats COM.. er... dCOM... er... COM+"
you're talking about the mythical man month by Brooks.
he worked at IBM, it wasnt an IBM study.
and his book is great.
i wonder how long it took to prepare that brief...
Lawyer: Hey - does anyone have the old AD&D suicide brief? cool, thanks.
s/AD&D/Everquest/
s/TSR/Sony/
there, done.
inktomi had the lead for a LONG time...
then google took over...
its been done before... it could happen again...
i concur.
however, since the common thought is that idiots can run MS servers, most of the admins that end up running MS servers are idiots.
notice i said *most*, there are some good ms admins, but the ratio compared to idiots is horrible.
i agree with you mostly... what i do now, could properly be called "systems engineering"... it isnt science, as we arent really researching new bits, but we are engineers. (we use existing science in practical ways to build solutions that are bulletproof)
and i do agree that the term "engineer" is thrown around a whole lot mor than it deserves to be. Systems administrators calling themselves "engineers" is an insult to those true engineers that killed themselves in college trying to pass that Partial Integrals course while others got their MSCE and think they are engineers now.
engineers are professionals on the order of doctors and lawyers. yes, i said that right. tell me, would you want your next bridge designed by someone who took a 2 week course in "click and build bridges" or someone who spent 4-5 years of intense study?
same thing in the computer field. you get what you pay for, and you get the level of education they have received. Most MSCE's are almost "priest like" (in an Asimov Foundation sense) in that they only know the ceremony to get their computer to work without any understanding of how it works and why.
my biggest problem with this is - how the hell is MS going to get the next generation of low-level coders for their products? no one knows low-level, and the kids arent exposed to it, who's going to code Bill's truly next generation OS?
look - i've been on both sides of this debate.
i was a db application developer, both on unix and windows. an IT developer. the epitome of IT geekiness.
then i switched to a hardcore CS-type job (which is my degree...) and the difference is night and day.
CS is far "geekier", far more "technical" than you will generally ever see in an IT environment.
well... at least their trousers fit properly when filled with hot grits.
they'll leave the humming to natalie portman, while she's down there...
and if they only had a beowulf cluster of these...
sigh... its friday, cut me some slack..
but... what if MS made it so they HAD to pay to use MS OS ?
you know, no more "casual piracy" ?
people arent going to want to pay for it.
let me guess, you dont think THIS prosecution is worth spending money on, but chasing after willy's bjs... THAT was money well spent...
sigh.
bleh...
icky problem...
why would you keep something in ram/cache if all you needed to do was throw it to video?
oh yeh... that will definitely help when you've got a memory leak the size of ontario from a program that stopped executing an hour ago.
or, you've got a pointer that went off its bounds and started writing all over its instructions, and the program crahes 1000 lines after the viiolation....
sometimes, printf, jsut isnt enough.
i guess what you're saying is that BSD^H^H^HLinux is dying?
uhhh.. if someone trojanned your system libraries, you're ass has been hacked already. sealing off ssh aint gonna do it :-)
my point is that i dont know of a system that doesnt have zlib on it...
i guess i understand the securiy side of it though...
why the fsck would you statically link in zlib?
i was thinking of a neutron bomb, actually...
its amazing, with this new-fangled internet thing, you can research things really quickly.
someone should try to make a buck off of it, its cool.
refresh my memory... but ...
there's no leftover radiation from h-bombs, is there?
bleh... you're sick.
teach people that "goto" can be very useful and a part of beautiful code, and i'd be happy.
you forgot "rename and change the API to one of our technologies and call it 'new' - have we redone ActiveX lately? oh, thats COM.. er... dCOM... er ... COM+"
wow, how are you possibly literate enough to type that?
read the articles you mentioned. the whole articles.
under the scenario you spelled out "coutn all the votes" gore won florida.
and this little uncomfortable factoid was buried about halfway through the article.
sorry if reading an entire article is too much for your MTV, microwave popcorn brain, but some of us have attention spans longer than gnats.
they're whores.
have you seen the amount of contributions given to Ashcroft in the Missouri Senate race by MS? 2nd biggest, right after enron.
clinton never committed perjury.
never
ever
ever
in order to commit perjury, the person must falsify about a material fact.
monica's blowjobs werent material (in the legal meaning) to the paula jones sexual harassment case.
so go listen to rush, and scream about clinton's penis some more.
good thing that georgie is too busy blowing Kenneth Lay to get into any real trouble.
*cough*
a bare-bones linux distribution, with XServer, on a floppy?
*cough* *cough*
Bullshit. no way. uh-uh. not gonna happen.
not when the XFree86 4.2 server is 1.3 megs, and thats just the XFree86 file. no drivers, no libraries.
sorry charlie...
yeh, but the aftermath of a Bush clan executive has destroyed teh infrastructure, tax base and school system there.
add to it the terrible pollution problem...
good thing that the states are getting the source code before hand, no?