Thank you for posting that helpful link to the RIAA website. This is a pressing issue, and as such, I urge everyone to go immediately to this website and show your support. Now, more than ever, the RIAA needs our love. So everyone, stop hammering the SSH site and give the RIAA the affection they so sorely need.
Everyone else has posted a link to the part of the faq where they explain why they don't cache, but there are some circumstances where it would be well worth it. This one for example. How many people right now are trying to download the update and can't get to the site. If you're not going to cache it, at least post the whole story, mirror the patch, or post the mirror list so the rest of us can get our security patches. I'm pretty sure you probably downloaded the patch for yourselves before you posted the story.
I'd rather they be running linux (not as root...) than running XP, where there random clicking won't destroy the system as easily. Considering how much MS invests on making their OS look and feel the way a user wants it to, versus what any linux distro spends (ie. nothing) I'd say that the best way to bring Win users to linux is by copying the look and feel of windows. Buf if your best argument is "it's bad because it looks like XP" then maybe you should be showing those screen caps to your grandma, and see what she prefers: the xp look, or KDE. Average users want pretty and easy. Want to see more people use linux? Make it pretty and easy.
I wasn't going to join into the 'linux is dead' flame war, but you drew me in. Quite frankly, I think linux as a desktop OS is great. I've pretty much gotten to the point where I can't handle windows for anything more than games (try as I might, I can't get Solder of Fortune 2 running under linux...). I run mandrake 8.1, and everything just works. It never mysteriously shuts down on me like win9x likes to do (although I must admit, win2k has been pretty stable, though I only use it for games). There's more than enough software available for anything I want to do under linux (browsers, irc, office apps, graphics, multimedia). All in all, I think quite the opposite - linux on the desktop is just starting to get good. Now that there are some more user-friendly distros (mandrake, redhat, and apparently lycoris) with easy installation and a pretty gui for the newcomers, now is the time when linux installs on desktops should be on the rise. The more people use it, the more it will improve as a desktop OS, and the more it improves, the more people will use it. Things are just getting interesting...
you could try this or this for some nice huge lists.
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All this talk has made me nostalgic. I think I should pick up an nes controller for three dollars at the local pawn shop and try my hand at hacking up some sort of serial adapter and driver. A quick google for some roms and an emulator and I'm good to go. Anybody else tried anything like this?
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If I were in a position to do it (hell knows I'd love to work for Nintendo...) I'd do pretty much what you just said, but stick to the compilation idea. An emulator, a nice front end for choosing your game, and a couple thousand roms would probably fit nicely onto one of those GameCube discs. Bundle it with an old-school NES controller that's been adapted to plug into the cube, and sell it for $30-$40. Do the same thing on cd or dvd for the pc market, with a usb version of the controller. Hell, if the licensing fees aren't prohibitive, release versions for XBox and PS2. Pay attention Nintendo: THERE IS MONEY TO BE MADE HERE.
They already have slashdot.com. What I'd really like to see is RIAA and MPAA lose their.org domains. Of course, they just may be involved in the bidding for control of it...
Thanks for speaking up Bruce. It's unfortunate things had to go this way. I totally understand HP's stand on this, and I don't blame them one bit, but I still think it sucks. It's a shame things in the U.S. have gone so far that corporate interests can entirely squash free speech and academic presentations.
Considering that the whole focus of his presentation is to be the horrors of the DMCA, I'd doubt that he's doing this as a work-related duty. I'd think HP would be just as upset about him bad mouthing the law as they would be about him breaking it, if he were doing this as a representative of theirs. And if he's not doing it as official HP business, then whatever he does, he does on his own time. If my employers ever start telling me what I can and cannot do on my own time, it's time to find a new job.
Yeah, I guess you're right. We wouldn't want a large corporation to stand up for what's right as opposed to what the U.S. government mandates. If he had intended to give his demonstration in any other country in the world it would have gone unnoticed, but due to corporate interest in the U.S., an overly-broad law was passed that serves no purpose other than to infringe on the rights of consumers (we're not citizens anymore, we're consumers). So, yeah, I would love to see a company like HP stand up for the rights of the people who got them to where they are today. Unfortunately it'll never happen. Oh, and by the way, I am employed in the corporate world, and you missed my point anyways. They could have just as easily stood idly by and watched. I'm quite sure that if I did something illegal on my own time, my corporate masters wouldn't get dragged into court for it. What he does on his own time has nothing to do with his job. All that would be required of HP in court is to say he had the day off.
Well good then. My nuke that's designed for destroying strategic military targets but has the unfortunate side effect of poisoning people, as well as blinding them, causing them to grow extra limbs, and making the surrounding area uninhabitable for the next century should be perfectly legit as well.
First, copyright holders were allowed to take you to civil court for theft of copyrighted material, which was all well and good. Then, the big guys realized that civil proceedings cost them money, so they paid for a law (DMCA) that would make copyright violations a criminal offense so the government would foot the bill. And now that they aren't getting the results they wanted from the government they want to legalize vigilante justice? I guess buying your politicians in bulk really pays off...
Don't worry about grandpa. By the time this comes out, we'll already have addressable pacemakers. Just make sure he has the newest firmware that supports wake-on-lan.
The whole point of a lan party is to get together with friends to game. Most of our lan parties turn into violent brawls, with the throwing of brownies and what-not. Plus, if we play a game that some people aren't into, they go watch movies or play smash brothers on the gamecube. The best part of a lan party is the socializing. If I wanted to stay home and play SoF2 over the internet, I would.
In order for this to be anti-competitive, HP would have to have a monopoly on printers. It's no more anti-competitive than if they decided not to have Radio Shack carry their products. There are so many other printer manufacturers out there that HP will probably only hurt itself. Given the choice of selling a thousand units to Dell for $50 less than you sell them elsewhere, but still making money on them, versus not selling that thousand units at all, I know which *I* would choose.
But since he's being so vocal about his intentions, I'd imagine they pretty much have to go after him. I'm no lawyer, but couldn't people use the government's inaction as a defense in the future? Won't it look like egg on their faces if someone flaunts the fact that they're committing a crime and nobody does a damn thing about it? If nobody does anything can he get one of the EFF lawyers to come after him just to get this thing into a court?
As somebody else noted, it doesn't matter whether or not the MPAA cares, since it's still a violation of a law. As much as they may want to be, the MPAA is NOT a law enforcement agency. That's like saying that General Motors wouldn't care if I only drive 10 km/h over the speed limit, so I shouldn't get a ticket. And since I managed to get a response from Bruce himself the other day, I'll try it again: Hey Bruce! Big props for the idea. It's always good to see someone willing to fight the good fight. If we had a DMCA equivalent in Canada I'd be looking for ways to shoot it down. Let's hope it never comes to that though. And while you're at it, why not piss off the RIAA too and show up with some Celine Dion cds and a felt tipped marker.
You can't use RedHat as an example either - it's too user friendly. It seems to me that the people who whine about distros (mostly rh and mdk) have something against the really user friendly distros. If it works right out of the box, it's not 1337 enough for them. They need to spend weeks getting debian to recognize their hardware or hand editing their slack config files. I think it's an ego thing. I'll be sticking with mandrake 8.2 for now, but I'll upgrade to 9.0 once it's stable. I guess I'm one of the few "geeks" who wants his linux quick and easy. As far as I'm concerned, mandrake is the easiest and most user friendly distro to install and use. And as far as gcc 3.1 breaking compatability with apps, I guess the developers should get on the ball and build their libs with the latest version of the compiler, although I hope mdk9 is based on gcc 3.2, and not 3.1.
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Thank you for posting that helpful link to the RIAA website. This is a pressing issue, and as such, I urge everyone to go immediately to this website and show your support. Now, more than ever, the RIAA needs our love. So everyone, stop hammering the SSH site and give the RIAA the affection they so sorely need.
Everyone else has posted a link to the part of the faq where they explain why they don't cache, but there are some circumstances where it would be well worth it. This one for example. How many people right now are trying to download the update and can't get to the site. If you're not going to cache it, at least post the whole story, mirror the patch, or post the mirror list so the rest of us can get our security patches. I'm pretty sure you probably downloaded the patch for yourselves before you posted the story.
I'd rather they be running linux (not as root...) than running XP, where there random clicking won't destroy the system as easily. Considering how much MS invests on making their OS look and feel the way a user wants it to, versus what any linux distro spends (ie. nothing) I'd say that the best way to bring Win users to linux is by copying the look and feel of windows. Buf if your best argument is "it's bad because it looks like XP" then maybe you should be showing those screen caps to your grandma, and see what she prefers: the xp look, or KDE. Average users want pretty and easy. Want to see more people use linux? Make it pretty and easy.
I wasn't going to join into the 'linux is dead' flame war, but you drew me in. Quite frankly, I think linux as a desktop OS is great. I've pretty much gotten to the point where I can't handle windows for anything more than games (try as I might, I can't get Solder of Fortune 2 running under linux...). I run mandrake 8.1, and everything just works. It never mysteriously shuts down on me like win9x likes to do (although I must admit, win2k has been pretty stable, though I only use it for games). There's more than enough software available for anything I want to do under linux (browsers, irc, office apps, graphics, multimedia). All in all, I think quite the opposite - linux on the desktop is just starting to get good. Now that there are some more user-friendly distros (mandrake, redhat, and apparently lycoris) with easy installation and a pretty gui for the newcomers, now is the time when linux installs on desktops should be on the rise. The more people use it, the more it will improve as a desktop OS, and the more it improves, the more people will use it. Things are just getting interesting...
you could try this or this for some nice huge lists.
All this talk has made me nostalgic. I think I should pick up an nes controller for three dollars at the local pawn shop and try my hand at hacking up some sort of serial adapter and driver. A quick google for some roms and an emulator and I'm good to go. Anybody else tried anything like this?
If I were in a position to do it (hell knows I'd love to work for Nintendo...) I'd do pretty much what you just said, but stick to the compilation idea. An emulator, a nice front end for choosing your game, and a couple thousand roms would probably fit nicely onto one of those GameCube discs. Bundle it with an old-school NES controller that's been adapted to plug into the cube, and sell it for $30-$40. Do the same thing on cd or dvd for the pc market, with a usb version of the controller. Hell, if the licensing fees aren't prohibitive, release versions for XBox and PS2. Pay attention Nintendo: THERE IS MONEY TO BE MADE HERE.
They already have slashdot.com. What I'd really like to see is RIAA and MPAA lose their .org domains. Of course, they just may be involved in the bidding for control of it...
porn. everyone wants free, copyleft porn.
Thanks for speaking up Bruce. It's unfortunate things had to go this way. I totally understand HP's stand on this, and I don't blame them one bit, but I still think it sucks. It's a shame things in the U.S. have gone so far that corporate interests can entirely squash free speech and academic presentations.
Considering that the whole focus of his presentation is to be the horrors of the DMCA, I'd doubt that he's doing this as a work-related duty. I'd think HP would be just as upset about him bad mouthing the law as they would be about him breaking it, if he were doing this as a representative of theirs. And if he's not doing it as official HP business, then whatever he does, he does on his own time. If my employers ever start telling me what I can and cannot do on my own time, it's time to find a new job.
Yeah, I guess you're right. We wouldn't want a large corporation to stand up for what's right as opposed to what the U.S. government mandates. If he had intended to give his demonstration in any other country in the world it would have gone unnoticed, but due to corporate interest in the U.S., an overly-broad law was passed that serves no purpose other than to infringe on the rights of consumers (we're not citizens anymore, we're consumers). So, yeah, I would love to see a company like HP stand up for the rights of the people who got them to where they are today. Unfortunately it'll never happen. Oh, and by the way, I am employed in the corporate world, and you missed my point anyways. They could have just as easily stood idly by and watched. I'm quite sure that if I did something illegal on my own time, my corporate masters wouldn't get dragged into court for it. What he does on his own time has nothing to do with his job. All that would be required of HP in court is to say he had the day off.
...we were supposed to call it GNU/Linux, not IBM/Linux. Let's hope RMS isn't reading /. today.
Well good then. My nuke that's designed for destroying strategic military targets but has the unfortunate side effect of poisoning people, as well as blinding them, causing them to grow extra limbs, and making the surrounding area uninhabitable for the next century should be perfectly legit as well.
It's spelled "Katz". And...um...yeah, lameness filter dodging in full effect, yo.
Copyright infringement *is* theft. The "property" is Intellectual Property. This is the terminology that has turned fair use into a crime.
First, copyright holders were allowed to take you to civil court for theft of copyrighted material, which was all well and good. Then, the big guys realized that civil proceedings cost them money, so they paid for a law (DMCA) that would make copyright violations a criminal offense so the government would foot the bill. And now that they aren't getting the results they wanted from the government they want to legalize vigilante justice? I guess buying your politicians in bulk really pays off...
Don't worry about grandpa. By the time this comes out, we'll already have addressable pacemakers. Just make sure he has the newest firmware that supports wake-on-lan.
The whole point of a lan party is to get together with friends to game. Most of our lan parties turn into violent brawls, with the throwing of brownies and what-not. Plus, if we play a game that some people aren't into, they go watch movies or play smash brothers on the gamecube. The best part of a lan party is the socializing. If I wanted to stay home and play SoF2 over the internet, I would.
In order for this to be anti-competitive, HP would have to have a monopoly on printers. It's no more anti-competitive than if they decided not to have Radio Shack carry their products. There are so many other printer manufacturers out there that HP will probably only hurt itself. Given the choice of selling a thousand units to Dell for $50 less than you sell them elsewhere, but still making money on them, versus not selling that thousand units at all, I know which *I* would choose.
But since he's being so vocal about his intentions, I'd imagine they pretty much have to go after him. I'm no lawyer, but couldn't people use the government's inaction as a defense in the future? Won't it look like egg on their faces if someone flaunts the fact that they're committing a crime and nobody does a damn thing about it? If nobody does anything can he get one of the EFF lawyers to come after him just to get this thing into a court?
As somebody else noted, it doesn't matter whether or not the MPAA cares, since it's still a violation of a law. As much as they may want to be, the MPAA is NOT a law enforcement agency. That's like saying that General Motors wouldn't care if I only drive 10 km/h over the speed limit, so I shouldn't get a ticket. And since I managed to get a response from Bruce himself the other day, I'll try it again: Hey Bruce! Big props for the idea. It's always good to see someone willing to fight the good fight. If we had a DMCA equivalent in Canada I'd be looking for ways to shoot it down. Let's hope it never comes to that though. And while you're at it, why not piss off the RIAA too and show up with some Celine Dion cds and a felt tipped marker.
To hell with spam, I have the Star Wars cook book. Nothin' says lovin' like Wookie Cookies from the oven...
You can't use RedHat as an example either - it's too user friendly. It seems to me that the people who whine about distros (mostly rh and mdk) have something against the really user friendly distros. If it works right out of the box, it's not 1337 enough for them. They need to spend weeks getting debian to recognize their hardware or hand editing their slack config files. I think it's an ego thing. I'll be sticking with mandrake 8.2 for now, but I'll upgrade to 9.0 once it's stable. I guess I'm one of the few "geeks" who wants his linux quick and easy. As far as I'm concerned, mandrake is the easiest and most user friendly distro to install and use. And as far as gcc 3.1 breaking compatability with apps, I guess the developers should get on the ball and build their libs with the latest version of the compiler, although I hope mdk9 is based on gcc 3.2, and not 3.1.
Sweet merciful crap! If anyone ever gets one, for the love of god, do NOT post that IP to slashdot! Talk about a Denial of Service...