So if they have the right to take any derivative code and relicense it as they see fit, does that mean that once someone makes a usable version of their client software (which they seem unable to do themselves) they will just take it away and return it to a closed-source license?
There are now more speakers of Klingon than of Navajo. That is so sad....
No, that's a good thing. We can send them into the battlefield to carry our encrypted communications. And no worry of them being tortured to reveal their secrets, as any captor would be annoyed into killing a trekkie long before having the chance to torture them.
Sing it, brother. Code by day, cook dinner when I get home, then tend to the garden (which is only herbs and things I can use to make incense). I have a bonsai collection too. I love cooking, gardening I just do for relaxation, as I tend to kill most things anyways.
Nice. It's cool to see how many people here actually live right around the corner from you. I live in Fort Erie, but I work in Buffalo. And looking at the posts on this story, there are quite a few WNY folk hanging around. BTW, feel free to come over for the ballet anytime you like, just try not to clog up the bridge like the bingo grannies do. *sigh*
This frickin' humidity sucks. I think the only way to beat it is with beer. The Buffalo-area chapter of slashdot members should hold it's meetings just over the river, at the Canadian ballet. (if you're from the area, you'll get it)
I just (4 months ago) bought an InWin midtower atx case (300 watt psu) and it has 2 of the floppy-style power connectors, for whatever reason. So apparently they're still there, but I don't see why they didn't just use a regular mollex connector for power.
Thanks, I didn't want to burn the karma to flame him, so I'm glad you did it first. For a people who call themselves 'educated' or 'L337' or whatever, why is it that linux users assume that their distro of choice is the only only one with even the simplest of features? Just because *you* can't update the system effectively with rpm, doesn't mean it can't do it. We're all glad that you've found nirvana with debian - kudos to you. I personally prefer mandrake - I like my linux, but I like it to work pretty much out of the box, and debian hasn't done that for me in years. I learned linux on debian, but it refuses to cooperate with my new hardware, and I don't really feel the need to spend weeks getting it to work when mandrake just installs and goes. So for all the twits out there saying 'redhat sucks because rpm doesn't work the same way as dpkg/apt', maybe it would if you'd put down the torch and pitchfork and follow your own advice - RTFM.
I don't think you need encryption export laws to nail someone on conspiracy charges. I'm sure they have quite the array of laws at their disposal. I seem to recall (correct me if I'm wrong) that they got an accomplice of Timothy McVeigh's for something along the lines of conspiring to commit a terrorist act, or some-such. In any case, there are enough laws to protect the populace as it is. If the only crime you can manage to arrest a terrorist for is using encryption, maybe you need to do more detective work.
I call bullshit. I see your name (MarvinMouse) and I'm quite sure that Walt Disney holds patents and trademarks on all possible english language alliterations involving a name ending in 'mouse'. Therefore it would seem that your own name is your undoing, as it clearly shows a case of prior art.
You, sir, are high. Or drunk. Just because someone springs the money for more advertising doesn't mean they offer superior products/services/information. The beauty of the web lies in the basic idea that it's a medium for everyone. Anyone can get a message out on the internet. The more that diminishes, the less useful the web becomes.
Suppose someone illegally downloads a copy of Warcraft III just to "try it out", with the intention of buying it if they like it. They play it and don't like it because of the 90 food limit, or something like that. They delete the game and never play it again. Do they owe Blizzard $55 because they should have bought the game in the first place to "try it out"?
According to the RIAA, yes. I've said the same thing about people downloading mp3s to sample more songs off of an album than just the released singles. But the RIAA would have you believe that you're doing something along the lines of drowning kittens when you download *their* music. So I'd imagine that the rest of corporate America feels the same.
What's the difference between redistributing via wireless network and redistributing via wired network? My home network is ethernet. If I leave it unsecured and someone hops through it, am I committing fraud because they're not paying the cable company?
You may wish to look into some things before you run your mouth and call people thieves. If your ISP allows networks, than this is perfectly legit. You pay them for the service, they provide it. If they give you unlimited bandwidth and permission to run a network then they have no right to cry when you use it.
Good idea. If you're sick of letting a company like microsoft dictate to you how the web should look, let a company like macromedia do it instead. No thanks. I'd rather have an objective third party like W3C dictate the standards, and then have developers actually follow them.
Actually, we may NOT need a central server, if we could implement pgp/gpg signatures. Could they be used to sign the MD5 hashes? If so, then any attempts to fidget with the hashes would result in destroying the signature (or so I would hope). This could make it workable without a central server. Or, I could be talking out of my ass...either way.
That's one of the better solutions to this I've ever heard, but it's still flawed. While there's no central server, you're letting the individual users store the md5 sums on their machines. So the ??AA can make their decoy files but change the tag / hash to match that of a known "good" trader. You download the file, it's corrupt, and you filter it's creator. The "good" trader is no longer in good standing (an ebay-esque seller rating comes to mind here...). And you can't check md5 sums against their original creator's listing, since that requires them to be online 24/7, and makes them a target for a lawsuit (central server).
The *disruption* is only in the trading of "fake" files - files that aren't labeled as what they are. Have you SEEN KaZaA lately? That's what half of it is now anyways. Whether you're in Britain or not, I don't see how this could be illegal. They're not disrupting your service, merely placing decoy files on the network. If you attempt to download a file that you haven't purchased a license for, then you don't really have the right to have that file anyways. And if you have purchased a license, make the backup copies yourself.
Would you even want to drive your car knowing that "CowboyNeal" over at VA/Linux had been tinkering with your airbags? He wasn't making the point that "Big Joe" was unintelligent, only that he most likely wasn't qualified to be rewriting code for your car's braking system.
It's good to see that they used a standard measurement for size (a US quarter) but how about the standard 'Libraries of Congress' instead of this 'two cds' crap. Who the hell knows how much a cd holds, anyways???
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Wow, I've always loved the Adobe upgrades (admittedly, I haven't moved to illustrator 10 or photoshop 7 yet). I've commented in another thread about adobe, but since I saw your comment, I thought I'd rehash. Changing the group/ungroup hotkeys to be universal between indesign/pagemaker/illustrator was a fantastic move. As was adding +/- zoom control to pagemaker. The new ui has changed the way I work, but all for the better. The people who use this software all day will (for the most part) quickly learn the new interface. Sure, sometimes I *still* try to use a command that went away in Pagemaker 6, but for the most part I catch on, and I imagine other do to.
My only real problem with Photoshop releases was when they decided to hid the line tool on me (version 5, I think). Other than that, I've actually found their ui updates to be good. Like adding zoom control with +/- to Pagemaker (6.5), and standardizing things like group/ungroup between Pagemaker/Illustrator/InDesign, and making you hold down option (mac) when double clicking to open a linked image. Little things like that make my daily work a lot nicer. They may change locations of tools, but the hotkeys are usually pretty good about staying put. And the hotkeys are what make it great software to the daily users.
I use the onboard on my Asus A7V333. I saved the few dollars I could have spent on a sound card and put it into some halfway decent speakers with a powered sub woofer. Works just fine for mp3s and cds, and I can figure out if a grenade was to the left or right of me in SoF2, so that's all I really need. Plus, no sound card means I have an extra pci slot.
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So if they have the right to take any derivative code and relicense it as they see fit, does that mean that once someone makes a usable version of their client software (which they seem unable to do themselves) they will just take it away and return it to a closed-source license?
pshaw...a real geek would keep at least five signifigant digits for pi. you, sir, are a disgrace to the proud traditions of slashdot.
There are now more speakers of Klingon than of Navajo. That is so sad....
No, that's a good thing. We can send them into the battlefield to carry our encrypted communications. And no worry of them being tortured to reveal their secrets, as any captor would be annoyed into killing a trekkie long before having the chance to torture them.
Sing it, brother. Code by day, cook dinner when I get home, then tend to the garden (which is only herbs and things I can use to make incense). I have a bonsai collection too. I love cooking, gardening I just do for relaxation, as I tend to kill most things anyways.
Nice. It's cool to see how many people here actually live right around the corner from you. I live in Fort Erie, but I work in Buffalo. And looking at the posts on this story, there are quite a few WNY folk hanging around. BTW, feel free to come over for the ballet anytime you like, just try not to clog up the bridge like the bingo grannies do. *sigh*
This frickin' humidity sucks. I think the only way to beat it is with beer. The Buffalo-area chapter of slashdot members should hold it's meetings just over the river, at the Canadian ballet. (if you're from the area, you'll get it)
I just (4 months ago) bought an InWin midtower atx case (300 watt psu) and it has 2 of the floppy-style power connectors, for whatever reason. So apparently they're still there, but I don't see why they didn't just use a regular mollex connector for power.
Thanks, I didn't want to burn the karma to flame him, so I'm glad you did it first. For a people who call themselves 'educated' or 'L337' or whatever, why is it that linux users assume that their distro of choice is the only only one with even the simplest of features? Just because *you* can't update the system effectively with rpm, doesn't mean it can't do it. We're all glad that you've found nirvana with debian - kudos to you. I personally prefer mandrake - I like my linux, but I like it to work pretty much out of the box, and debian hasn't done that for me in years. I learned linux on debian, but it refuses to cooperate with my new hardware, and I don't really feel the need to spend weeks getting it to work when mandrake just installs and goes. So for all the twits out there saying 'redhat sucks because rpm doesn't work the same way as dpkg/apt', maybe it would if you'd put down the torch and pitchfork and follow your own advice - RTFM.
I don't think you need encryption export laws to nail someone on conspiracy charges. I'm sure they have quite the array of laws at their disposal. I seem to recall (correct me if I'm wrong) that they got an accomplice of Timothy McVeigh's for something along the lines of conspiring to commit a terrorist act, or some-such. In any case, there are enough laws to protect the populace as it is. If the only crime you can manage to arrest a terrorist for is using encryption, maybe you need to do more detective work.
I call bullshit. I see your name (MarvinMouse) and I'm quite sure that Walt Disney holds patents and trademarks on all possible english language alliterations involving a name ending in 'mouse'. Therefore it would seem that your own name is your undoing, as it clearly shows a case of prior art.
You, sir, are high. Or drunk. Just because someone springs the money for more advertising doesn't mean they offer superior products/services/information. The beauty of the web lies in the basic idea that it's a medium for everyone. Anyone can get a message out on the internet. The more that diminishes, the less useful the web becomes.
Suppose someone illegally downloads a copy of Warcraft III just to "try it out", with the intention of buying it if they like it. They play it and don't like it because of the 90 food limit, or something like that. They delete the game and never play it again. Do they owe Blizzard $55 because they should have bought the game in the first place to "try it out"?
According to the RIAA, yes. I've said the same thing about people downloading mp3s to sample more songs off of an album than just the released singles. But the RIAA would have you believe that you're doing something along the lines of drowning kittens when you download *their* music. So I'd imagine that the rest of corporate America feels the same.
Therefore, most Americans with decent taste...
That's a rather small number...
Flame away, American moderators!
What's the difference between redistributing via wireless network and redistributing via wired network? My home network is ethernet. If I leave it unsecured and someone hops through it, am I committing fraud because they're not paying the cable company?
You may wish to look into some things before you run your mouth and call people thieves. If your ISP allows networks, than this is perfectly legit. You pay them for the service, they provide it. If they give you unlimited bandwidth and permission to run a network then they have no right to cry when you use it.
Good idea. If you're sick of letting a company like microsoft dictate to you how the web should look, let a company like macromedia do it instead. No thanks. I'd rather have an objective third party like W3C dictate the standards, and then have developers actually follow them.
Actually, we may NOT need a central server, if we could implement pgp/gpg signatures. Could they be used to sign the MD5 hashes? If so, then any attempts to fidget with the hashes would result in destroying the signature (or so I would hope). This could make it workable without a central server. Or, I could be talking out of my ass...either way.
That's one of the better solutions to this I've ever heard, but it's still flawed. While there's no central server, you're letting the individual users store the md5 sums on their machines. So the ??AA can make their decoy files but change the tag / hash to match that of a known "good" trader. You download the file, it's corrupt, and you filter it's creator. The "good" trader is no longer in good standing (an ebay-esque seller rating comes to mind here...). And you can't check md5 sums against their original creator's listing, since that requires them to be online 24/7, and makes them a target for a lawsuit (central server).
The *disruption* is only in the trading of "fake" files - files that aren't labeled as what they are. Have you SEEN KaZaA lately? That's what half of it is now anyways. Whether you're in Britain or not, I don't see how this could be illegal. They're not disrupting your service, merely placing decoy files on the network. If you attempt to download a file that you haven't purchased a license for, then you don't really have the right to have that file anyways. And if you have purchased a license, make the backup copies yourself.
Would you even want to drive your car knowing that "CowboyNeal" over at VA/Linux had been tinkering with your airbags? He wasn't making the point that "Big Joe" was unintelligent, only that he most likely wasn't qualified to be rewriting code for your car's braking system.
it actually just called Haley Joel Osment. He sees dead people.
It's good to see that they used a standard measurement for size (a US quarter) but how about the standard 'Libraries of Congress' instead of this 'two cds' crap. Who the hell knows how much a cd holds, anyways???
Wow, I've always loved the Adobe upgrades (admittedly, I haven't moved to illustrator 10 or photoshop 7 yet). I've commented in another thread about adobe, but since I saw your comment, I thought I'd rehash. Changing the group/ungroup hotkeys to be universal between indesign/pagemaker/illustrator was a fantastic move. As was adding +/- zoom control to pagemaker. The new ui has changed the way I work, but all for the better. The people who use this software all day will (for the most part) quickly learn the new interface. Sure, sometimes I *still* try to use a command that went away in Pagemaker 6, but for the most part I catch on, and I imagine other do to.
My only real problem with Photoshop releases was when they decided to hid the line tool on me (version 5, I think). Other than that, I've actually found their ui updates to be good. Like adding zoom control with +/- to Pagemaker (6.5), and standardizing things like group/ungroup between Pagemaker/Illustrator/InDesign, and making you hold down option (mac) when double clicking to open a linked image. Little things like that make my daily work a lot nicer. They may change locations of tools, but the hotkeys are usually pretty good about staying put. And the hotkeys are what make it great software to the daily users.
I use the onboard on my Asus A7V333. I saved the few dollars I could have spent on a sound card and put it into some halfway decent speakers with a powered sub woofer. Works just fine for mp3s and cds, and I can figure out if a grenade was to the left or right of me in SoF2, so that's all I really need. Plus, no sound card means I have an extra pci slot.