Saying "there's no answer so we should bloody well give up" sounds as unscientific as "There is an answer and it's god, so let's bloody well give up". At long last neuroscience may be making some head way in this difficult area and you want to stamp it out because it's all a waste of time?!? Fine, but if that is really your free choice, why spend so much time going on about why you don't care? Maybe you just can't help it.
>Dignity as a human being. Without free will, we are all helpless automatons.
>I don't know about you, but I take responsibility for my bad decisions AND my good ones. I wouldn't want to live any other way. (And I am >not religious in any sense.)
Just because we want to have free will doesn't make it so. You taking responsibility for your actions is great but maybe you can't really do otherwise even though it seems like you have a choice. Except for next time when you do do otherwise to prove me wrong in which case I say checkmate.:)
Saying "I wouldn't want to live in a world without free will" sounds a bit like saying "I wouldn't want to live in a world without god". The desire to have it does not make it so. Personally I like the "have my cake and eat it too" aspect of compatibleism. It says it's ok that our actions may or may not be predetermined because if they are, the outcome of those actions are predetermined as well, and so is how we respond. So the basis for the criminal justice system is in tact becase it resides within the system of determinism.
"If that's the case, then why is Linux able to support a variety of hardware configurations without having fundamental design issues the way Windows does?"
There are plenty of fundamental design issues with Linux. Lack of true HID support for one.
When an OEM builds an image for their system, it is the OEMs job to make sure the drivers their vendor provide work well with the hardware and don't conflict with anything else in the system. Things like this are (almost) always a bios or third party driver issue. Many drivers don't handle their power management right.
Most of the people who see these issues will be people who build their own systems or bought from cut rate OEMs that don't do proper quality control.
I attended two MS sponsored conferences last year where MS reps put out a call to action at the end of a long talk on power management for OEMs to move to EFI. Both times someone from the audience answered back with words to the effect that it's too expensive to do right now and doesn't add real customer value. We'll see.
"But it does mean that you have faith in skepticism as the correct philosophy to live by."
Not at all. It is quite possible that something could happen to make an irrational world view seem like the correct philosophy to live by. I'm not really sure what that would be but I suspect there are mental illnesses that could do the job. In the mean time I will adhere to a rational world view, not out of 'faith' but because it can be backed up with evidence.
by Daniel Dennett. Really reading all three books is a good idea. The reason I like Dennett's book above Harris or Dawkins is he lays out a plausible theory for how religion came to be and why it is still around. He does a very good job framing religion in a modern context where the other two books seem a bit dismissive about it.
S key broken on your keyboard, or is money supposed to be bad? Anyhow, in this case you are wrong. I would point out that Adobe is well supported by Apple because Adobe does not charge Apple a fee to ship its reader. It was only when Adobe wanted to charge MS for what it gives others for free that this blew into the brewhaha that it is.
I have the same controller. Just need to download the drivers, load them onto a USB drive (no need for floppy) and when it gets to the stage where it asks for a partition to load on click the Load Drivers button to load your drivers. Poof! it now will see your drive. I've no idea why the RAID controller folks didn't work harder to get their drivers into the box.
Oh, come now. I could teach my mom to use windbg in an hour. !analyze -v is getting pretty smart these days. Once she has the proper trap frame set the cause of the problem should be obvious.
Seriously though, I didn't expect such a good post in response to my off the cuff troll. Thanks.
It's not that your missing anything subtle it's that you are trying to be too subtle. There is a line in humor between analytically correct and funny. It's a fairly wide line. In the case of the GP joke (I was given the thinkgeek t-shirt as a gift, but I do wear it sometimes) it just wouldn't be funny as 01. For one thing, why the leading 0? Go ahead and read it to yourself with 1 instead of 10, I'll wait. Not as funny was it.
Keep it simple AND keep it informative. A real BSOD will include information about the stop code and arguments at the time of death. If the system knows which driver caused the crash it will tell you this as well. The Mac panic screen not only takes more resources to display but they tell you far less. "Please restart" in 23 different languages is not helpful. The 10.0 and 10.1 version looked much better.
As long as they aren't using coercion to force OEMs not to include other DVD burning software there is no problem. Forcing MS not to bundle any software would be a bad deal for the customer and that would be a reversal of the intent of the monopoly ruling.
I think you've made a good point. What really struck me was how public they were with the price comparison between the Mac Pro and a high end Dell. Do they really think a price war with Dell will work well for them?
Bottom line is that no matter what the reason for dragging us into this the Bushies have wracked up such a large toll in $$$ and lives that they need to go. He is far and away the worst president we've had and the worst republican congress we've ever seen.
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Saying "there's no answer so we should bloody well give up" sounds as unscientific as "There is an answer and it's god, so let's bloody well give up".
At long last neuroscience may be making some head way in this difficult area and you want to stamp it out because it's all a waste of time?!? Fine, but if that is really your free choice, why spend so much time going on about why you don't care? Maybe you just can't help it.
Well said. Wish I had some mod points to freely throw your way.
>Dignity as a human being. Without free will, we are all helpless automatons.
:)
>I don't know about you, but I take responsibility for my bad decisions AND my good ones. I wouldn't want to live any other way. (And I am
>not religious in any sense.)
Just because we want to have free will doesn't make it so. You taking responsibility for your actions is great but maybe you can't really do otherwise even though it seems like you have a choice. Except for next time when you do do otherwise to prove me wrong in which case I say checkmate.
Saying "I wouldn't want to live in a world without free will" sounds a bit like saying "I wouldn't want to live in a world without god". The desire to have it does not make it so. Personally I like the "have my cake and eat it too" aspect of compatibleism. It says it's ok that our actions may or may not be predetermined because if they are, the outcome of those actions are predetermined as well, and so is how we respond. So the basis for the criminal justice system is in tact becase it resides within the system of determinism.
"If that's the case, then why is Linux able to support a variety of hardware configurations without having fundamental design issues the way Windows does?"
There are plenty of fundamental design issues with Linux. Lack of true HID support for one.
When an OEM builds an image for their system, it is the OEMs job to make sure the drivers their vendor provide work well with the hardware and don't conflict with anything else in the system. Things like this are (almost) always a bios or third party driver issue. Many drivers don't handle their power management right.
Most of the people who see these issues will be people who build their own systems or bought from cut rate OEMs that don't do proper quality control.
I attended two MS sponsored conferences last year where MS reps put out a call to action at the end of a long talk on power management for OEMs to move to EFI. Both times someone from the audience answered back with words to the effect that it's too expensive to do right now and doesn't add real customer value.
We'll see.
"But it does mean that you have faith in skepticism as the correct philosophy to live by."
Not at all. It is quite possible that something could happen to make an irrational world view seem like the correct philosophy to live by. I'm not really sure what that would be but I suspect there are mental illnesses that could do the job. In the mean time I will adhere to a rational world view, not out of 'faith' but because it can be backed up with evidence.
by Daniel Dennett. Really reading all three books is a good idea. The reason I like Dennett's book above Harris or Dawkins is he lays out a plausible theory for how religion came to be and why it is still around. He does a very good job framing religion in a modern context where the other two books seem a bit dismissive about it.
They should have just given Colbert the cut he demanded and been happy.
S key broken on your keyboard, or is money supposed to be bad? Anyhow, in this case you are wrong. I would point out that Adobe is well supported by Apple because Adobe does not charge Apple a fee to ship its reader. It was only when Adobe wanted to charge MS for what it gives others for free that this blew into the brewhaha that it is.
Don't be so lazy.
If you have a point to make, make it and use the link to back it up.
Sad but true. It would be just if they only sold this verison in Europe. They could call it Vista Swiss (now with holes).
Jupiter is done!
Come get it while it's hot!
I have the same controller. Just need to download the drivers, load them onto a USB drive (no need for floppy) and when it gets to the stage where it asks for a partition to load on click the Load Drivers button to load your drivers. Poof! it now will see your drive.
I've no idea why the RAID controller folks didn't work harder to get their drivers into the box.
I agree. I just finished HL2 Ep1 on my 2+ year old system runing Vista RC1.
The game is choppy at times but the OS is fine.
"ATI can't write drivers, not to mention their almost complete lack of support for anything not Windows."
Aren't all the new macs running with ati?
Oh, come now. I could teach my mom to use windbg in an hour. !analyze -v is getting pretty smart these days. Once she has the proper trap frame set the cause of the problem should be obvious.
Seriously though, I didn't expect such a good post in response to my off the cuff troll.
Thanks.
It's not that your missing anything subtle it's that you are trying to be too subtle. There is a line in humor between analytically correct and funny. It's a fairly wide line.
In the case of the GP joke (I was given the thinkgeek t-shirt as a gift, but I do wear it sometimes) it just wouldn't be funny as 01. For one thing, why the leading 0? Go ahead and read it to yourself with 1 instead of 10, I'll wait. Not as funny was it.
Keep it simple AND keep it informative. A real BSOD will include information about the stop code and arguments at the time of death. If the system knows which driver caused the crash it will tell you this as well.
The Mac panic screen not only takes more resources to display but they tell you far less. "Please restart" in 23 different languages is not helpful. The 10.0 and 10.1 version looked much better.
As long as they aren't using coercion to force OEMs not to include other DVD burning software there is no problem. Forcing MS not to bundle any software would be a bad deal for the customer and that would be a reversal of the intent of the monopoly ruling.
"Theodore Roosevelt, a Republican, lead conservation efforts."
True, and Nixon established the EPA. God, I never thought I would miss Nixon.
I think you've made a good point. What really struck me was how public they were with the price comparison between the Mac Pro and a high end Dell. Do they really think a price war with Dell will work well for them?
The windows key is very useful. I use wk + e and wk + r all day long.
NUM LOCK is the key I use to bring up the KVM OSD and I like it that way.
Bottom line is that no matter what the reason for dragging us into this the Bushies have wracked up such a large toll in $$$ and lives that they need to go. He is far and away the worst president we've had and the worst republican congress we've ever seen.