So he held up the release just so he could trump any hype comming from WinHEC?!?
If I were a customer and knew that I could have had the new OS months ago if not for Steve's ego I would be pissed. This is not a good way to treat your customers.
I'm sitting here at WinHEC and I don't hear anyone talking about OSX. A comparison at this point would be meaningless. I think it's Apple that wants to push the comparison. They always talk about MS at WWDC with posters and such. MS isn't doing that here at WinHEC.
The 64 bit processors honor the nx flag that sets data pages as non-executable. So buffer over run errors can't stomp over the code pointer and start executing arbitrary code. It's a good thing.
In theory, the roll of public companies in society isn't just to make money for a few people. Most corporations have a mission statement that spells out why they should be granted these special "personhood" rights. In that statement is often more than just money making. There is almost always a fuzzy "Values" section where they say what good they will bring to the world in exchange for these rights. Wouldn't it be a better world if more companies attempted to live up to there own values?
For now it's more of a philosophical curiosity than anything else. The search for the answer to the question of where this all came from. Look how many people in this thread posted some reference to Genesis. It's the same search in a way. But instead of just making it up or believing in the made up, this method tries to find some data to back the answer up with.
Ok. But it was only fluid for a microsecond. Not some number of days let alone solid AND inhabited by the end of 7. So honestly, what does Genesis have to do with this at all?
So all scientific achievement can be reduced down to "Some magical all powerful being did it. And if you cock your head just right and squint while reading this book it will prove it." Cool!
Believe it or not this is what customers are asking for. VS 2005 won't be gold for a few months yet but it's needed now for AMD64 bit code. Ideally MS should have had the tools out before the OS. In the mean time we've been using it for a while now and it is solid for our needs. Who cares if some fringe features aren't in there yet. Let us use it so we can get our 64bit code out.
If we instinctively care so much about our progeny why are we so short sighted about the environment and economy that we are handing down to them? I think your observation is apt on a personal level but I don't think it scales well.
OSX first launched in 2001. The same year as XP so my analogy is apt. But ok, I'll play along, if I buy a system with Win2k I can expect to get full support from MS for it for some time to come. Can the same be said for 10.0 or 10.1? No. I work at a company that produces software for the PC and Mac. On the PC we support all the way back to Win98. We don't support 10.0 or 10.1 despite the fact that they are so new. Why is this? It's because Apple was willing to rush half baked crap to market and then not stand behind it. They then charged for the upgrade that gives the features that should have been in there to start with. If it's really not just a point release why don't the bump it more than a point? MS on the other hand just recently stopped supporting NT4.
It's also about support. The company I work for does cross platform software. On the Windows side we support win98-Server2003. That's a wide range. In the Mac we support 10.2 and up. What happened to 10.0 and 10.1? They came out about the same time XP did. Where did the support go? I'm being a bit facetious but you get my point. Corporations like to stay with companies that stand behind their software. MS only recently stopped supporting NT4 and in fact still will if you are will to pay.
"There has been no compelling reason for folks to remain on the platform other than reasons where you might be locked into a particular piece of software or other Microsoft specific needs."
Support is the biggest reason corporations (and many individuals) stay. One thing that MS does well is support their software for an entire lifecycle. They don't bail out early on a product like Apple does. They just recently quit supporting NT4. You can expect to get support for XP for years to come after Longhorn ships. When did OS 10.0 come out? If I buy a Mac off ebay with 10.0 on it can I get to 10.4 for free? No. Despite the fact that they came out at about the same time Apple wants money for every other point release. Apple has a faster upgrade cycle (revenue generation cycle) so it doesn't make sense to switch.
My brother is bad a golf and takes it out on his clubs. I get him a new putter every xmas. I personally have crushed D&D dice for not rolling correctly at a critical time.
Logically we know it isn't the objects fault but it feels good to personify it and exact revenge none the less.
Human sacrifice is not really what I call a fresh start and it is not any less horrific than anything in GTA. At least the OT only required acceptance of animal sacrifice.
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So he held up the release just so he could trump any hype comming from WinHEC?!?
If I were a customer and knew that I could have had the new OS months ago if not for Steve's ego I would be pissed. This is not a good way to treat your customers.
I would take the dual core. You get a nice speed bump with only a small heat/power bump.
Only one CPU fan means a quieter system.
I'm sitting here at WinHEC and I don't hear anyone talking about OSX. A comparison at this point would be meaningless. I think it's Apple that wants to push the comparison. They always talk about MS at WWDC with posters and such. MS isn't doing that here at WinHEC.
The 64 bit processors honor the nx flag that sets data pages as non-executable. So buffer over run errors can't stomp over the code pointer and start executing arbitrary code.
It's a good thing.
He left MS in 1983.
In theory, the roll of public companies in society isn't just to make money for a few people. Most corporations have a mission statement that spells out why they should be granted these special "personhood" rights. In that statement is often more than just money making. There is almost always a fuzzy "Values" section where they say what good they will bring to the world in exchange for these rights. Wouldn't it be a better world if more companies attempted to live up to there own values?
For now it's more of a philosophical curiosity than anything else. The search for the answer to the question of where this all came from.
Look how many people in this thread posted some reference to Genesis. It's the same search in a way. But instead of just making it up or believing in the made up, this method tries to find some data to back the answer up with.
Ok. But it was only fluid for a microsecond. Not some number of days let alone solid AND inhabited by the end of 7. So honestly, what does Genesis have to do with this at all?
So all scientific achievement can be reduced down to "Some magical all powerful being did it. And if you cock your head just right and squint while reading this book it will prove it."
Cool!
I'm not sure about cancer but it would be cool if their HIV research bears fruit.
How many other software companies are actively researching these types of things? Pretty amazing IMO.
Believe it or not this is what customers are asking for. VS 2005 won't be gold for a few months yet but it's needed now for AMD64 bit code. Ideally MS should have had the tools out before the OS. In the mean time we've been using it for a while now and it is solid for our needs. Who cares if some fringe features aren't in there yet. Let us use it so we can get our 64bit code out.
Wow, what a humorless dick.
If we instinctively care so much about our progeny why are we so short sighted about the environment and economy that we are handing down to them?
I think your observation is apt on a personal level but I don't think it scales well.
The revolution will not be televised!
OSX first launched in 2001. The same year as XP so my analogy is apt. But ok, I'll play along, if I buy a system with Win2k I can expect to get full support from MS for it for some time to come. Can the same be said for 10.0 or 10.1?
No.
I work at a company that produces software for the PC and Mac. On the PC we support all the way back to Win98. We don't support 10.0 or 10.1 despite the fact that they are so new. Why is this?
It's because Apple was willing to rush half baked crap to market and then not stand behind it. They then charged for the upgrade that gives the features that should have been in there to start with. If it's really not just a point release why don't the bump it more than a point?
MS on the other hand just recently stopped supporting NT4.
It's also about support. The company I work for does cross platform software. On the Windows side we support win98-Server2003. That's a wide range. In the Mac we support 10.2 and up. What happened to 10.0 and 10.1? They came out about the same time XP did. Where did the support go?
I'm being a bit facetious but you get my point. Corporations like to stay with companies that stand behind their software. MS only recently stopped supporting NT4 and in fact still will if you are will to pay.
"There has been no compelling reason for folks to remain on the platform other than reasons where you might be locked into a particular piece of software or other Microsoft specific needs."
Support is the biggest reason corporations (and many individuals) stay. One thing that MS does well is support their software for an entire lifecycle. They don't bail out early on a product like Apple does. They just recently quit supporting NT4. You can expect to get support for XP for years to come after Longhorn ships.
When did OS 10.0 come out? If I buy a Mac off ebay with 10.0 on it can I get to 10.4 for free?
No. Despite the fact that they came out at about the same time Apple wants money for every other point release. Apple has a faster upgrade cycle (revenue generation cycle) so it doesn't make sense to switch.
Bah, Bush was evil long before this.
"It maight be good for the American audience here to know that the gag order applies to testimony at an inquiry, not to a trial."
Thanks for the update.
But we still don't care.
My brother is bad a golf and takes it out on his clubs. I get him a new putter every xmas.
I personally have crushed D&D dice for not rolling correctly at a critical time.
Logically we know it isn't the objects fault but it feels good to personify it and exact revenge none the less.
I'm with you. The only draw back is that we have so few candidates on our side.
The system is architected to support only the two main parties.
Human sacrifice is not really what I call a fresh start and it is not any less horrific than anything in GTA. At least the OT only required acceptance of animal sacrifice.
Arnold!
Once they tailor the constitution to fit him, he'll be baack.
An end comes to all things, this is true. The only question is when. I don't think MS will be "wiped out" for quite some time though.
Deserve?
"Deserves got nothing to do with it."
-Clint Eastwood
Large corporations may not all be the same color exactly but they are shades of the same color, green.
Yep.
Two geeks enter. One geek leaves.
Spin the wheel!