From a few threads up about mouse and keyboard not taking input properly:
If you have a newer system (serverworks chipset?) and you ps2 devices act flakey (if at all) you should go into the bios and disable "legacy USB keyboard support".
RH9, FC1 and FC2 test1 all suffered from a crash related to swap partition in machines with > 2G of memory.
It took me a couple of installs to realize that first, that was the problem and second: with 2G of RAM why would I need swap space in the first place?
(snip) Of course some worms have been distributing themselves inside of zips but that still takes more steps and hence more chances for the user to think about what they are doing,
AAAhahahahaha.
Users......
Think.......
(wipes tears from eyes)
Too bad I've used my mod points already, otherwise your last mod would have been "funny".
Let me tell you a recent even with the Mimail virus that you had to enter in a password to open the exe and infect yourself. 2 extra steps.
There had to have been a dozen or so email viruses that went thru, and we'd made it w/o a scratch.
I'd even had some users get the new "virus du jour" and they'd id it as bogus and trash it. (picture me grinning from ear to ear at that)
So what happened with Mimail?
User sees "you account has been deactivated".
User also sees 3 emails *AFTER* the supposed deactivation.
User gets a file called "Textfile.zip" with an.exe inside.
User is given a password to the exe, subsequently entered and the exe run.
User now infected.
Why were the virus defs not up to date? *She* hadn't logged off in 20-something days despite my badgering every week.
She was also one of the one's that ID'd a virus on a previous occasion.
She also admitted "I just wasn't thinking".
(mumble: nooooo kidding!)
It would not have mattered because it was 15 to 20 mins before the virus defs were updated and 30 to 40 mins before the mail server stripped the attachments.
It was also slightly under an hour when network scans cut off 2 servers that were spewing this crap all over the place.
Great.
But, I will hand it to her as justification to my boss for the corp version of Norton AV.
I had this sudded flash of the MSN butterfly bending over the AOL running man/thing/person.
Not a pretty picture (except for the colors).
I never want to see that again....(pause)....except as an animated.gif, perhaps.
After the merger, and updated XP SE MSN AOL SP2 (...That almost looks like "XP semenal spew", if it were read semi-phall^H^H^Honetically...) will be....
errr...
ummmmm.....
'released', yeah, that's the word.
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That's a lot longer than most/. readers, I'm thinking.
Soooo, ummmm, considering the discussion at hand...
Like the AC'97, the vid cards were "functional", but just barely. Heck, even compared to the old Rage 128, it was shameful, IIRC.
Tho, I'd rather have the ati rage in a server, and no sound, nor the intel video cards.
Don't get me wrong, integrated sound/vid/net/whatever is ok, but I agree, it has to be at least of some quality, resource friendly, and stable (like the rage vid cards).
Oh, and just in case it is not the case, being able to disable it is always a must.
Some of the 1.2 million customers that have installed software maker Symantec's latest Norton PC security package have been unable to use the software because of new antipiracy technology, the company confirmed Thursday.
Ok, so 1.2mil is decent install base.
But...
"We thoroughly tested the technology," Smith said. "We ran extensive tests worldwide. You had well over 250,000 customers complete activation, and we didn't have any complaints about this."
So, 1/5'th of your install base did ok, and the rest did not?
Ok, yes I've taken this out of context, but even a second reading *still* seems to imply that 4 out of 5 dentist^H^H^H^H^H^H customers think product activation sucks.
Can you imagine however, the chaos if the author of the worm also put nasty bios flashing code into it... Millions of PC would be heading for the dumpsta!
I wonder if I was the only one who thought "Hey, Dibs on the RAM, Drives and VidCards"?
Prolly not considering the present company.
Back on topic: the akami servers are swamped: it took ~ 20 minutes to download about 8Meg (5 patches).
Make matters worse, the *one* xp box I've got wouldn't update via the SUS server (nice lady with poor vision and the cleartype helps, so lay off).
susserver.com has a nice, simple start-up guide and some forums that discuss common problems and work-arounds, like, for those of us without AD and new Samba 3.0 PDC's can push group policies (so I understand) instead of reg hacks.
I've already warned my users who I know have 2k/xp at home...patch, and soon.
I suppose this this could be considered a (ahem) "Legal DoS'ing". The GrokLaw site has been slashdotted and is cooling off. Please check again in a few minutes or try the "old" site at Radio or the Google cache.
Our apologies for this interruption of service, the Webmaster.
Oopsie.
I knew I should have kept the reference of a funny quote from one Slashdotter who said "...and I stupidly posted a link to my site on./ and 20 minutes later the router melted down..."
Heh.
And this, is classic (and taken out of context, naturally): I think we may assume that if IBM's internal review had shown that, they'd have folded by now. I have no inside info, I hasten to add. Just a brain.
Don't laugh. Not everyone gives evidence of having one.
Manufactured products can be cool, but cool can't be manufactured.
I personally thought back to my first use of OS X, and "cool" was amongst the first thought. "Right On" and "Fucking-A" soon followed.
My first use of Windows XP followed a similar vein, only the complete opposite; "Oh...MY...GOD", "What the FUCK!!", "Make it STOP!!", "For the love of GOD MAKE IT STOP", "What fucking rocket scientist thought this was a good idea?", "Why am I having childhood flashbacks of Romper Room?"
Here's a clue for Microsoft: Make it simple: Turn the crap OFF/un-integrate. Make it look good: See above (XP looks HORRIBLE) Make it secure: Turn the crap off by default. Make it functional: see all of the above.
Oh, and *LISTEN* to what people want. Not like windows 98 beta when 78% of people said "NO!" to integrating Internet Explorer into the OS.
well, for the joke that sprang to mind immediatly:
It goes; A Mechanical Engineer, Marketer and Programmer were driving in the mountains, when the car's brakes failed and they crashed into one of the breakdown barriers (big mounds of gravel to stop trucks).
The Mechanical Engineers says, "I will look under the car and determine why the brakes failed, and how to fix it so it does not happen again".
The Marketers says, "I've got to tell the car company, so that word can get out if this needs to be a recall notice".
The Engineer and Markerter look at the Programmer who says, "I think we should push it back up the hill and see if we can get it to crash again".
Think about it... this seems very close to Microsoft's Mentality: all windows users are crash test dummies.
Case(s) in point: The remote code execution in Windows Media Player that allowed content to be executed (similar to the MIDI flaw in dx9.0a and below) was fixed in 6.x versions and re-opened in subsequent versions, not once, but at least 3 times!
The RPC vulnerability wasn't fixed until the second time, hence the need for *another* patch because Microsoft had not FIXED the vulnerability, just enough to protect against the first exploit. (little dutch boy story ring a bell, mr pavalov?)
And their strategy for integrating everything into the OS is actually driving XP users back to 98se. Yes, 98se where the IM client, browser, outlook express, media player, passport and another half dozen things aren't integrated into the OS (as proven by 98lite).
IIRC, tho I was not around at the time, but in the 1950's wasn't this how advertising was done, either during a break, in scene, or during setup for a different scene.
To get a feel, watch the "Truman Show", in particular the "why don't you mow the lawn...with the new something-something lawnmower etc, etc."
Did anyone else notice that it was soon after Balmer testified in the anti-trust sit-com about how revealing Microsoft's source code would be a national security threat, that China and several eastern European countries bought into Microsoft's Shared Source inititive?
You betcha I did. Make matters worse is the infultration into the Homeland Security Dept.
Stupid, IMO. Ah, well, it is the gov't and two quotes spring to mind:
Never ascribe to malice, what can easily be explaind by incompetence. --Napoleon (IIRC)
Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake. --Napoleon, (again, IIRC)
The Redmond, Wash.-based software maker is in discussions with more than 30 countries, territories and organizations regarding their interest in the program.
I read that as terrorist org's...serves me right for R'ing TFA.
Its a shame the only people who read these articles are the ones who aren't affected in the first place.
That is funny, but I'm still affected.
I'm the SA for a GIS lab, and let me tell you that GIS has moved to NT (windows, natch) based OS's from Solaris based OS's.
The last time the "Sun"ny side got updated was...oh, about 5 years ago?
The ironic thing is that some of the system updates on the NT side (nt4, in particular) made it *more* stable.
Go figure.
Oh, yes, my point...sorry, some background seemed needed: My servers (save one) are all Linux (RH8, despite my "Slack" background)....the one Win2k server is there because...*SHOCK*....*HORROR*...there was no other choice if you want/need ArcIMS 3 (or 4).
Oh, ya, it also needs SQL server 7 or above...big suprise there.
And...ha, ha, a webserver too and...a java serverlet engine. Breakdown: IIS + Tomcat + Connector ='d "free" + free + $2K. Apache + Tomcat + config changes = free.
It is worth noting, of course that a month or *more* is NORMAL(???) to get it working no matter which option you choose (Apache/IIS).
So, all the workstations + one Server, and don't forget the Administrative Installation of Office 2k...4 hours of my life I'll never get back (and I only half finished...no one write an office2k exploit in the next 24hours.;) thanks.)
The virus could encrypt selected parts of the hard drive...
What's really scary is this:
Think of all the vbs worms/viruses, now mate that with windows scripting (similar to vbs, I think) and windows' abilty to encrypt the file system (built in functionality, right?).
How hard would it be to, oh, say infect a system, encrypt the entire drive (or "my documents" or delete select files/user data), change the admin password, and reboot the system when done?
I think that'd be the rudest awakening ever.
I give it a year or so before it happens somewhere important, because some people never learn...esp Microsoft.
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From a few threads up about mouse and keyboard not taking input properly:
If you have a newer system (serverworks chipset?) and you ps2 devices act flakey (if at all) you should go into the bios and disable "legacy USB keyboard support".
RH9, FC1 and FC2 test1 all suffered from a crash related to swap partition in machines with > 2G of memory.
It took me a couple of installs to realize that first, that was the problem and second: with 2G of RAM why would I need swap space in the first place?
FYI, in case you run into these bumps.
(snip)
.exe inside.
Of course some worms have been distributing themselves inside of zips but that still takes more steps and hence more chances for the user to think about what they are doing,
AAAhahahahaha.
Users......
Think.......
(wipes tears from eyes)
Too bad I've used my mod points already, otherwise your last mod would have been "funny".
Let me tell you a recent even with the Mimail virus that you had to enter in a password to open the exe and infect yourself. 2 extra steps.
There had to have been a dozen or so email viruses that went thru, and we'd made it w/o a scratch.
I'd even had some users get the new "virus du jour" and they'd id it as bogus and trash it.
(picture me grinning from ear to ear at that)
So what happened with Mimail?
User sees "you account has been deactivated".
User also sees 3 emails *AFTER* the supposed deactivation.
User gets a file called "Textfile.zip" with an
User is given a password to the exe, subsequently entered and the exe run.
User now infected.
Why were the virus defs not up to date?
*She* hadn't logged off in 20-something days despite my badgering every week.
She was also one of the one's that ID'd a virus on a previous occasion.
She also admitted "I just wasn't thinking".
(mumble: nooooo kidding!)
It would not have mattered because it was 15 to 20 mins before the virus defs were updated and 30 to 40 mins before the mail server stripped the attachments.
It was also slightly under an hour when network scans cut off 2 servers that were spewing this crap all over the place.
Great.
But, I will hand it to her as justification to my boss for the corp version of Norton AV.
I had this sudded flash of the MSN butterfly bending over the AOL running man/thing/person.
.gif, perhaps.
...)
Not a pretty picture (except for the colors).
I never want to see that again....(pause)....except as an animated
After the merger, and updated XP SE MSN AOL SP2
(...That almost looks like "XP semenal spew", if it were read semi-phall^H^H^Honetically
will be....
errr...
ummmmm.....
'released', yeah, that's the word.
-- Erich
/. readers, I'm thinking.
Slashdot reader since 1997
That's a lot longer than most
Soooo, ummmm, considering the discussion at hand...
Aren't you dead yet?
(J/K)
Agreed, but I thought of their video cards.
Like the AC'97, the vid cards were "functional", but just barely. Heck, even compared to the old Rage 128, it was shameful, IIRC.
Tho, I'd rather have the ati rage in a server, and no sound, nor the intel video cards.
Don't get me wrong, integrated sound/vid/net/whatever is ok, but I agree, it has to be at least of some quality, resource friendly, and stable (like the rage vid cards).
Oh, and just in case it is not the case, being able to disable it is always a must.
How is it on nForce mobo's?
About the same time "moosen" became the plural of moose (as in "I see a flock of moosen").
/. editors, is it too late to change my name to "A_non_amoosen"? ...it just has a better ring to it.
(props to Brian Regan)
Hey,
heh
Oh, yeah, so I'm not completely off topic:
Let me think about this for a moment (IMO);
It's HP.
It's not a printer.
It's not a unix machine.
Hummm... I'll take 90% chance of failure for $200, Alex.
IMO/IME, FWIW.
Stand up!
...pause...
Fight for our rights
/sheepish grin
Just don't...err...waffle.
Gah! I feel dirty for a pun of such depravity.
I searched the article for Mozilla and Thunderbird, but Firebird reported the words were not found.
:)
Hummm...doesn't look like Microsoft is really serious.
Morpheous: You take the BSOD pill, the story ends and you wake up and believe whatever you want to about your lost data.
You take the red pill, and...aw, shit, the red pill just BSOD'd too.
You're screwed either way...which BSOD pill you want?
Here's a free clue, from the article:
Some of the 1.2 million customers that have installed software maker Symantec's latest Norton PC security package have been unable to use the software because of new antipiracy technology, the company confirmed Thursday.
Ok, so 1.2mil is decent install base.
But...
"We thoroughly tested the technology," Smith said. "We ran extensive tests worldwide. You had well over 250,000 customers complete activation, and we didn't have any complaints about this."
So, 1/5'th of your install base did ok, and the rest did not?
Ok, yes I've taken this out of context, but even a second reading *still* seems to imply that 4 out of 5 dentist^H^H^H^H^H^H customers think product activation sucks.
[Foghorn Leghorn voice]
What's the big idea putting blogs in longhorn?
Next thing you know they'll call it Bloghorn ! And that's just a little, I say, a little TOO close for comfort.
Can you imagine however, the chaos if the author of the worm also put nasty bios flashing code into it... Millions of PC would be heading for the dumpsta!
I wonder if I was the only one who thought "Hey, Dibs on the RAM, Drives and VidCards"?
Prolly not considering the present company.
Back on topic:
the akami servers are swamped: it took ~ 20 minutes to download about 8Meg (5 patches).
Make matters worse, the *one* xp box I've got wouldn't update via the SUS server (nice lady with poor vision and the cleartype helps, so lay off).
susserver.com has a nice, simple start-up guide and some forums that discuss common problems and work-arounds, like, for those of us without AD and new Samba 3.0 PDC's can push group policies (so I understand) instead of reg hacks.
I've already warned my users who I know have 2k/xp at home...patch, and soon.
What bothered me about Ballmer:
u h
Steve is Uncle Fester
Dun-nuh-nuh-nuh
Snap, snap
Dun-nuh-nuh-nuh
Snap, snap
Dun-nuh-nuh-nuh
Dun-nuh-nuh-nuh
Dun-nuh-nuh-n
Snap, snap
I suppose this this could be considered a (ahem) "Legal DoS'ing".
./ and 20 minutes later the router melted down..."
The GrokLaw site has been slashdotted and is cooling off. Please check again in a few minutes or try the "old" site at Radio or the Google cache.
Our apologies for this interruption of service, the Webmaster.
Oopsie.
I knew I should have kept the reference of a funny quote from one Slashdotter who said "...and I stupidly posted a link to my site on
Heh.
And this, is classic (and taken out of context, naturally):
I think we may assume that if IBM's internal review had shown that, they'd have folded by now. I have no inside info, I hasten to add. Just a brain.
Don't laugh. Not everyone gives evidence of having one.
/snort.
Hahahahaha
point them to the famous Linus interview where he said "SCO is smoking crack"?
I think that explains it best.
Manufactured products can be cool, but cool can't be manufactured.
I personally thought back to my first use of OS X, and "cool" was amongst the first thought.
"Right On" and "Fucking-A" soon followed.
My first use of Windows XP followed a similar vein, only the complete opposite; "Oh...MY...GOD", "What the FUCK!!", "Make it STOP!!", "For the love of GOD MAKE IT STOP", "What fucking rocket scientist thought this was a good idea?", "Why am I having childhood flashbacks of Romper Room?"
Here's a clue for Microsoft:
Make it simple: Turn the crap OFF/un-integrate.
Make it look good: See above (XP looks HORRIBLE)
Make it secure: Turn the crap off by default.
Make it functional: see all of the above.
Oh, and *LISTEN* to what people want. Not like windows 98 beta when 78% of people said "NO!" to integrating Internet Explorer into the OS.
(sheesh)
well, for the joke that sprang to mind immediatly:
It goes;
A Mechanical Engineer, Marketer and Programmer were driving in the mountains, when the car's brakes failed and they crashed into one of the breakdown barriers (big mounds of gravel to stop trucks).
The Mechanical Engineers says, "I will look under the car and determine why the brakes failed, and how to fix it so it does not happen again".
The Marketers says, "I've got to tell the car company, so that word can get out if this needs to be a recall notice".
The Engineer and Markerter look at the Programmer who says, "I think we should push it back up the hill and see if we can get it to crash again".
Think about it... this seems very close to Microsoft's Mentality: all windows users are crash test dummies.
Case(s) in point: The remote code execution in Windows Media Player that allowed content to be executed (similar to the MIDI flaw in dx9.0a and below) was fixed in 6.x versions and re-opened in subsequent versions, not once, but at least 3 times!
The RPC vulnerability wasn't fixed until the second time, hence the need for *another* patch because Microsoft had not FIXED the vulnerability, just enough to protect against the first exploit.
(little dutch boy story ring a bell, mr pavalov?)
And their strategy for integrating everything into the OS is actually driving XP users back to 98se.
Yes, 98se where the IM client, browser, outlook express, media player, passport and another half dozen things aren't integrated into the OS (as proven by 98lite).
Why?
It *annoys* the piss out of people.
Wonder why?
IIRC, tho I was not around at the time, but in the 1950's wasn't this how advertising was done, either during a break, in scene, or during setup for a different scene.
To get a feel, watch the "Truman Show", in particular the "why don't you mow the lawn...with the new something-something lawnmower etc, etc."
Heh.
Don't believe me....I'll explain in a moment.
But first, a word from our sponsors....
{could not resist, hehee}
Accident...sure. {kidding, of course}
/\/\3$$4G3$ for you?
Though it could be worse, here's how:
Clippy: It looks like you're about to have your ass handed to you in Quake and you pressed ctrl+alt+delete.
Would you like to:
1) Reboot and look like a llama?
2) Like me to write an apology for you (after reboot, of course).
3) Let you continue playing, while I stay on as a background task laughing at you and sending l33t
4) Suggest you use a mouse, you dork, as this is not Doom or Doom ][.
5) Launch minesweeper...c'mon, you know you want to! No pressure though....muwahaha...errr.
/end clippy
Did anyone else notice that it was soon after Balmer testified in the anti-trust sit-com about how revealing Microsoft's source code would be a national security threat, that China and several eastern European countries bought into Microsoft's Shared Source inititive?
You betcha I did. Make matters worse is the infultration into the Homeland Security Dept.
Stupid, IMO. Ah, well, it is the gov't and two quotes spring to mind:
Never ascribe to malice, what can easily be explaind by incompetence. --Napoleon (IIRC)
Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake. --Napoleon, (again, IIRC)
The Redmond, Wash.-based software maker is in discussions with more than 30 countries, territories and organizations regarding their interest in the program.
I read that as terrorist org's...serves me right for R'ing TFA.
Just a "Ghost {tm of symantec} in the Machine", is all.
Move along.
If you look at the way that every single "wire" in the professor...
/rubs nose
I'm normally not one to pick on typo's (pot, kettle, black and all), but all of a sudden I have the Gilligan's Isle theme playing in my head.
Ack.
And a little further down:
Speaking of redundant...how many people have posted saying Pentium 5 is redundant?
You mean like Pizza!Pizza!?
Word of Warning tho: Don't say Pentium!Pentium! too much or your nose starts to tickle real bad.
As long as they tell you their "20GByte" drive is actually 20,000,000,000 bytes unformated (which Maxtor does), then I don't see the problem.
/sigh
I do.
Because it's wrong, deceptive, sneaky, underhanded, dishonest...IOW the clever trick of a lawyer or marketoid or cable internet monop^H^H^H^Hprovider.
As a matter of fact, I noticed the transition about (/me thinks back) 6 years ago or so.
My first thoughts, as heard by 1/2 the shop;
FUCKING ASSHOLES!
Keep in mind, it was not much later that the suit over monitor sizes took place.
Both have annoyed/pissed me off for a while now.
Its a shame the only people who read these articles are the ones who aren't affected in the first place.
;) thanks.)
That is funny, but I'm still affected.
I'm the SA for a GIS lab, and let me tell you that GIS has moved to NT (windows, natch) based OS's from Solaris based OS's.
The last time the "Sun"ny side got updated was...oh, about 5 years ago?
The ironic thing is that some of the system updates on the NT side (nt4, in particular) made it *more* stable.
Go figure.
Oh, yes, my point...sorry, some background seemed needed:
My servers (save one) are all Linux (RH8, despite my "Slack" background)....the one Win2k server is there because...*SHOCK*....*HORROR*...there was no other choice if you want/need ArcIMS 3 (or 4).
Oh, ya, it also needs SQL server 7 or above...big suprise there.
And...ha, ha, a webserver too and...a java serverlet engine.
Breakdown:
IIS + Tomcat + Connector ='d "free" + free + $2K.
Apache + Tomcat + config changes = free.
It is worth noting, of course that a month or *more* is NORMAL(???) to get it working no matter which option you choose (Apache/IIS).
So, all the workstations + one Server, and don't forget the Administrative Installation of Office 2k...4 hours of my life I'll never get back (and I only half finished...no one write an office2k exploit in the next 24hours.
Funny, tho not *quite* true.
The virus could encrypt selected parts of the hard drive...
What's really scary is this:
Think of all the vbs worms/viruses, now mate that with windows scripting (similar to vbs, I think) and windows' abilty to encrypt the file system (built in functionality, right?).
How hard would it be to, oh, say infect a system, encrypt the entire drive (or "my documents" or delete select files/user data), change the admin password, and reboot the system when done?
I think that'd be the rudest awakening ever.
I give it a year or so before it happens somewhere important, because some people never learn...esp Microsoft.