> ok, good point, but... what would the result be? Sony gets charged > $5000 dollars? Even per CD that's nothing to them.
I think that they would notice a $5000 fine for every such CD sold in the state. They'd also notice the threat of much more severe punishment should they ever do it again.
In practice, though, the DA would ignore the complaint and nothing would come of it. Much better to complain to the state attorney general and try to get him to make a "consumer" issue of it.
> Something as this should be an automatic fine.
I see. So if someone were to accuse you of something like this you should be automatically fined: no trial or anything.
> Yes, I've read the DMCA. The specific clause about security testing > is rather vague. It allows security testing, but only up to a point > of "infringement" (whatever that means).
It's perfectly clear what it means. It means infringement of the copyright on the protected material. There's no way studying this "rootkit" stuff would do so. In fact, I doubt that the rootkit stuff qualifies as DRM at all.
There is no way to audit the code for security, it is probably
illegal under the DMCA to disassemble and fully analyze DRM code
in sufficient detail for a full code audit
You really ought to actually read the DMCA some time. There is a specific exemption for this sort of thing.
> I know this is fairly common, but does this imply that the people > that make the viruses are the same ones that make the spyware we > have grown to know and love?
This sort of appalling misuse of copyright to advance ideology is another reason why standards should not be subject to restrictive copyright licensing.
No, I am not a "fundamentalist". In fact, I am an atheist who knows damn well that "intelligent design" -> "creationism" -> religion -> bunk. Nontheless I find this method of opposing the establishment of religion unacceptable.
It isn't the "Open Office XML format". It's the OASIS Open Document Format. Microsoft is attempting to confuse the issue by deliberately confounding "Open Office" and Open Document".
> I realize that in a real elevator, the cables would be carbon fiber > or something else that isn't conductive material.
Actually, carbon fibers can be remarkable conductors. They can be "ballistic conductors" with the interesting characteristics of resistance independent of length and current densities of 10^7 amps per sq cm.
If ballistic conductivity is confirmed and turns out to be compatible with the needed strength and the fibers can be made long enough supplying power along the cable may be quite practical.
> Escape velocity isn't the problem. It's the massive acceleration > from the cannon.
A cannon cannot accelerate a projectile to a velocity higher than the speed of sound in the hot gases generated by the propellant. It is not practical to get the gases hot enough to push the speed of sound in them to escape velocity.
> Your sensitive electronics will be mush at well below 1000G's, or > below 100G's if they have moving parts.
The military have been putting clockwork mechanisms in artillery shells for more than 100 years. They've been putting electronics (originally with vacuum tubes) in artillery shells for more than 60 years.
With a resistance of 6500 ohms per tube independent of length and current densities of 10^7 amperes per square cm practical 10,000 mile power cables become a matter of long enough tubes (no, the tubes do not have to be 10,000 miles long).
> If there's no license granting you permission to take actions > governed by copyright, you can then be liable for copyright > infringement.
In the US you do not need a license to install and use a piece of software of which you own a copy: copyright law explicitly gives you the right to do so.
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> ok, good point, but... what would the result be? Sony gets charged
> $5000 dollars? Even per CD that's nothing to them.
I think that they would notice a $5000 fine for every such CD sold in the state. They'd also notice the threat of much more severe punishment should they ever do it again.
In practice, though, the DA would ignore the complaint and nothing would come of it. Much better to complain to the state attorney general and try to get him to make a "consumer" issue of it.
> Something as this should be an automatic fine.
I see. So if someone were to accuse you of something like this you should be automatically fined: no trial or anything.
> Yes, I've read the DMCA. The specific clause about security testing
> is rather vague. It allows security testing, but only up to a point
> of "infringement" (whatever that means).
It's perfectly clear what it means. It means infringement of the copyright on the protected material. There's no way studying this "rootkit" stuff would do so. In fact, I doubt that the rootkit stuff qualifies as DRM at all.
Besides, if Sony didn't know they were grossly negligent.
> ...the ones that pop up the message "Would you like to download and
> install a rootkit".
I expect that would work fairly well.
> I know this is fairly common, but does this imply that the people
> that make the viruses are the same ones that make the spyware we
> have grown to know and love?
No, just distributors for them.
Of course they want corporate life. They're discorporate now and they don't like it.
(Hint: look up the definitions of "corporate".)
This sort of appalling misuse of copyright to advance ideology is another reason why standards should not be subject to restrictive copyright licensing.
No, I am not a "fundamentalist". In fact, I am an atheist who knows damn well that "intelligent design" -> "creationism" -> religion -> bunk. Nontheless I find this method of opposing the establishment of religion unacceptable.
> ...sprawls over 240 acres and accommodates 60 miles of roads...
...100,000 street lamps...
60 miles of 30 foot wide road covers 218 acres.
>
That's 417 street lamps per acre, or one for every three feet of your 60 miles of road.
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It isn't the "Open Office XML format". It's the OASIS Open Document Format. Microsoft is attempting to confuse the issue by deliberately confounding "Open Office" and Open Document".
> Seems these two statements conflict...
The do no such thing. Having low turnover is not the same as having none.
> There you have it - with an off-the-shelf reader you have to be
> within inches OR trick the user into opening the book...
Whereas with a home-brew high-power reader they will have to be within 10 feet instead of 30.
When you reach synchronous orbit, of course.
> I realize that in a real elevator, the cables would be carbon fiber
> or something else that isn't conductive material.
Actually, carbon fibers can be remarkable conductors. They can be "ballistic conductors" with the interesting characteristics of resistance independent of length and current densities of 10^7 amps per sq cm.
If ballistic conductivity is confirmed and turns out to be compatible with the needed strength and the fibers can be made long enough supplying power along the cable may be quite practical.
> Escape velocity isn't the problem. It's the massive acceleration
> from the cannon.
A cannon cannot accelerate a projectile to a velocity higher than the speed of sound in the hot gases generated by the propellant. It is not practical to get the gases hot enough to push the speed of sound in them to escape velocity.
> Your sensitive electronics will be mush at well below 1000G's, or
> below 100G's if they have moving parts.
The military have been putting clockwork mechanisms in artillery shells for more than 100 years. They've been putting electronics (originally with vacuum tubes) in artillery shells for more than 60 years.
With a resistance of 6500 ohms per tube independent of length and current densities of 10^7 amperes per square cm practical 10,000 mile power cables become a matter of long enough tubes (no, the tubes do not have to be 10,000 miles long).
> If there's no license granting you permission to take actions
> governed by copyright, you can then be liable for copyright
> infringement.
In the US you do not need a license to install and use a piece of software of which you own a copy: copyright law explicitly gives you the right to do so.
I find it astonishing that there are people who agree to them.
Where do these doofuses get the notion that you can go to jail for failing to comply with the terms of a contract?
...And probably no treaties either. The treaties have explicit provision for compulsory licensing.
> Only recently have they produced flourscent fixtures that have a
> similar color temperature to incandescent lighting.
I specified flourscent fixtures that have a similar color temperature to incandescent lighting more than thirty years ago.
> Id rather believe the incentive for DELL is big juicy rebates on
> Intel CPU's.
Rebates which would vanish were Dell to buy any AMD parts.
> Sexual conflict or infidelity could lead to a 'breakdown in crew
> functioning'.
I see someone at NASA has read 'Stranger in a Strange Land'.