Well there is magnatune. Not a p2p system, but a nice idea. They are a recording company that sells all music online and splits the price of the sale 50/50 with the artists.
I think by 'banning machines FIRST' you mean banning every machine before they exhibit symptoms then I agree with what you say. However, I have no problem with banning any machine that exhibits bad behavior.
It is not really punishment as much as it is expecting you to meet certain minimum requirements to participate. At a MINIMUM it is expected that your machine will not hurt others. Even if that is because of a worm or virus that is not your fault, peventing you from using the network until you meet the minimum requirements is not really punishment.
A quick analogy - people can't drive until they have been licensed - this is a MINIMUM requirement for driving and it keeps the roads safer for the other drivers out there. It is not a PUNISHMENT that you can't drive until you are licensed, it is just the way it works.
Similarly the requirement for using the network is that the machine is clear of viruses and worms that can hurt others.
As a user on a network, you don't really "own" it either. Yes, you do pay for part of the network and access to it, but so does everyone else in the community that uses the network. As a community you hire someone - the network admin - to ensure that the facility is there for you and everyone else to use. If there is abusive behavior, then the network admin has the responsibility and authority to stop that behavior. That is what you "the user" is paying her to do.
Even if you are a user of the network, that really doesn't mean that you have rights to ignore the rules. The administrator is there to make sure that the community of people using the network can do so without being disturbed by others. If that means that the administrator needs to block access to a bad citizen until they stop their behavior then that is GOOD policy.
This is especially true if the user and or the computer the user is running is causing harmful effects to the community.
At the same time the administrator does need to be prepared to help the user rememdy the problem if it is a virus or something else wrong so that the user can correct what is wrong, assuming that the bad behavior was NOT malicious of course. If it was malicious then a fine or a ban would be appropriate.
Well that and many home users are just barely computer literate and don't know how to update their computers. If they buy one that doesn't have the automatic update feature already turned on, then they have no idea how or where to get the updates. My parents got the worm mostly because they didn't know there were updates, and secondly they didn't know how to do the update.
When the cable guys were doing my install, I told them that my computer was running Linux. They weren't allowed to touch anything not running Windows, so they didn't install anything for me, other than the modem.
What ever happened to the thermostat? You know that box on the wall that remotely controls the temperature setting for the room? Are people really too lazy to walk over an change the temperature there?
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Well there is magnatune. Not a p2p system, but a nice idea. They are a recording company that sells all music online and splits the price of the sale 50/50 with the artists.
I thought slashdot was coded in lisp. ?
Well - as a good friend of mine used to tell me all of the time - 63% of statistics are made up on the spot.
Ok,
I think by 'banning machines FIRST' you mean banning every machine before they exhibit symptoms then I agree with what you say. However, I have no problem with banning any machine that exhibits bad behavior.
It is not really punishment as much as it is expecting you to meet certain minimum requirements to participate. At a MINIMUM it is expected that your machine will not hurt others. Even if that is because of a worm or virus that is not your fault, peventing you from using the network until you meet the minimum requirements is not really punishment.
A quick analogy - people can't drive until they have been licensed - this is a MINIMUM requirement for driving and it keeps the roads safer for the other drivers out there. It is not a PUNISHMENT that you can't drive until you are licensed, it is just the way it works.
Similarly the requirement for using the network is that the machine is clear of viruses and worms that can hurt others.
Kyle wrote: "Maybe bring a line backer to strangle the little geek into submission"
And what happens when it is the linebacker who has the infected computer?
English tip: singular possesive in english is spelled
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your or yours
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ur or urs
could come in handy on your papers.
As a user on a network, you don't really "own" it either. Yes, you do pay for part of the network and access to it, but so does everyone else in the community that uses the network. As a community you hire someone - the network admin - to ensure that the facility is there for you and everyone else to use. If there is abusive behavior, then the network admin has the responsibility and authority to stop that behavior. That is what you "the user" is paying her to do.
Even if you are a user of the network, that really doesn't mean that you have rights to ignore the rules. The administrator is there to make sure that the community of people using the network can do so without being disturbed by others. If that means that the administrator needs to block access to a bad citizen until they stop their behavior then that is GOOD policy.
This is especially true if the user and or the computer the user is running is causing harmful effects to the community.
At the same time the administrator does need to be prepared to help the user rememdy the problem if it is a virus or something else wrong so that the user can correct what is wrong, assuming that the bad behavior was NOT malicious of course. If it was malicious then a fine or a ban would be appropriate.
Well I have to admit that my first thought was "why didn't those idots at the power companies patch their computers that run the power grid?"
Well that and many home users are just barely computer literate and don't know how to update their computers. If they buy one that doesn't have the automatic update feature already turned on, then they have no idea how or where to get the updates. My parents got the worm mostly because they didn't know there were updates, and secondly they didn't know how to do the update.
Not to mention the ham support for events like MS Bicycle rides, marathons and other large public events for non-profit organizations.
That people are starting to realize that they will never listen to the 100 GB of music they have already downloaded, so why bother searching for more?
When the cable guys were doing my install, I told them that my computer was running Linux. They weren't allowed to touch anything not running Windows, so they didn't install anything for me, other than the modem.
What ever happened to the thermostat? You know that box on the wall that remotely controls the temperature setting for the room? Are people really too lazy to walk over an change the temperature there?
So can you run pine on this thing? What kind of email client does it have?