I'm not too familiar with what exactly is going on here and the reach of the issues but how about Vonage Canada? Did Verizon register the patent up here as well? Does it even matter (considering traffic still goes through American based technology/infrastructure)?..
I indeed yawned many times while reading the article. Almost every time I saw the word "yawn" I imagined a person yawning which automatically made me yawn.
"I know lots of people have a beef with various aspects of Vista, but they don't bother me. I don't watch downloaded movies on my PC, I use it for gaming and surfing and developing, so the DRM that may be in it doesn't bother me personally."
I don't know about you but the very fact that DRM is running in the background constantly policing my every move while wasting resources when I _don't_ download movies to watch on my PC would personally bother me more so than if I did download movies.
Question, why does one need a totally different CD to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04? If I understand the instructions correctly, if you don't want to upgrade over the network using the Update Manager, you cannot use the regular 7.04 desktop CD and must use the alternate CD? Did I read that right (this was mentioned in freenode #ubuntu as well)? It seems to me that the 7.04 desktop CD should be capable of upgrading an existing installation as well no? Wouldn't that be "ideal"? I'm nowhere near familiar with Linux distribution issues so would you mind explaining some of the technical issues here? Just honest curiosity, thanks!
In my case, I develop software for a pretty popular North American sports site (30k-50k visitors per day during season, mostly US & Canada with some smaller presence in some Scandinavian countries).
MS Internet Explorer 82.9% Firefox 12.2% Safari 2.4% Opera 1%
And the rest...
A shift from last year at the same time:
MS Internet Explorer 84.6 % Firefox 10.7 % Safari 1.8 % Netscape 1.2 % Mozilla 0.5 % Opera 0.4 %
I think one of the big problems is not so much the lack of content offered in the classroom. The bigger problem I see IMHO is the lack of interest from students as a result of a poor introduction into what UNIX really is and how it will come to play in their careers (ie: beyond their gaming desktop).
I have recently gone back to school to finish up my CS degree after having worked in the industry for several years and I'm surprised at the ignorance of UNIX/Linux's usefulness from people who have already taken a UNIX/Linux course in my school. It seems profs are jumping straight into bash scripting without properly introducing what UNIX really is, what the difference between UNIX and Linux is, how it is used today, why it is important to learn it, how it is different than Windows, the philosophy behind UNIX, how it is useful as a tool, etc. All students are being exposed to is a command line and some scripting. No context in the technology whatsoever. It is then not surprising that students come out of those courses thinking UNIX and Linux are useless since Windows/Macs do it better, easier. This results in them erasing whatever little knowledge they acquired as soon as exams are done with.
I am one of those people's who vpn, ssh, and uses bittorents in legal forms and had a hell of a time getting my old Rogers connection to play nice ever since some group of fucktard managers decided that we were getting too much value for our money. Rogers, Bell, those two elephants of communications in Canada both equally love to abuse their customers.
I know from a few engineering friends that Rogers' network is overloaded to hell. Devices are handling traffic x3 times what they were designed for. All this to cut costs and keep milking their monopoly. In the mean while, they know there are very few options for cable/dsl providers, and the other options are mediocre as well so they abuse consumers as they wish. It is the same with Bell, their phone service is overpriced and their customer service is the biggest pile of elephant dung I have ever experienced.
Here they are again, doing with customers as they please because they did not anticipate people were actually going to use their network as advertised. They are crippling one of the essential functionalities of the net and there is very little that can be done about it because the general public just bends over and continues to take it from Ted. Thank God I moved outside the coverage of Rogers and I'm using ACI+Vonage, they seem to be pretty consistent and reasonable with their bandwidth, we'll see how long until Rogers decides to buy them out.
It's not just you. As a matter a fact, so many people actually liked the idea that after hundreds of e-mails, Thinkgeek has decided to start making them.
From the site:
"Hey! You! Quit emailing us to make this for REAL already;) We promise, we'll make it. In fact we are already working on it. You've just forced our hand! Click the 'email me when available' link above to get notified! Thanks! I guess the joke is on us this year:p"
If you actually bother to read the article you will see that IE (directly) is actually not the only affected software. Versions of Outlook before 2007 are affected and thus any Vista installation running that. Once again, VISTA is affected. period.
I'm a professional web developer. I've worked in the field for 5+ years and can tell a decent web application by just using it for a while. I have recently gone back to University and have gotten the chance to use Blackboard. My school uses it for everything from general announcements, to posting marks, posting of assignments, etc. While it does the minimum necessary job most of the time, it is a mediocre package IMO. The interface is very inconsistent, very confusing to navigate, glitches are experienced by students and teachers alike every term. I have yet to experience a single term in which profs do not have problems posting assignments, documents, etc. Somehow Blackboard always manages to leave half of the class out. The smarter profs make use of their own University web space to create a simple html page where they post their information. Whenever blackboard is involved, it is generally a messy experience.
That being said, why the hell does a web application break with an Operating System update? Is Microsoft at fault here? Did they mock around with how POST/GET variables get sent to the server or how the browser accepts server responses? Are cookies randomly getting erased from IE? CSS/HTML glitches in the new IE rendering the pages useless? Or is this Blackboard's own code depending on some obscure ActiveX/IE functionality that is no longer there in Vista and thus violating the #1 reason why web applications are so useful? - They are supposed to work everywhere, no matter what OS we use! I'm thinking it's the latter.
What part of "Successful exploitation allows execution of arbitrary code. NOTE: The vulnerability is currently being actively exploited." do you fail to understand?
Although I use Linux exclusively at home/work, here I am, silly fool, giving the benefit of the doubt to Vista and its "enhanced security". I've always been aware IE's ability to create holes in the most unrelated portions of the OS (cursor, help pages, etc) and yet, I thought that Vista, maybe, just maybe actually was worth its 5+years of development and it was not all spent in DRM crap. How foolish of me. Here is yet again another seemingly unrelated functionality affected by the disaster that is IE. I will not be surprised if tomorrow IE can make your desk lamp vulnerable.
The article does a decent job at introducing Linux and letting unaware people know that there is an alternative. However, it seemed to me that Linux was painted a little too much like a "hobby OS", light on functionality and not as powerful as commercial OS's. The whole "Linus Torvalds and a growing group of volunteers eventually did the highly improbable..." may show Linux as someone's project and nothing more serious, specially for people who are not aware of how Open/Free Software works. I would have liked to see reference to companies such as Google, IBM, HP, etc investing in Linux in terms of using it for their own purposes as well as pitching-in with the development. It may have put things into perspective and show how serious Linux really is in the technology world today.
If is truely for the sole purpose of helping people get back to studying, it is a very dangerous "solution". It will just allow more lazy people who don't have their priorities straight into society pretending to be responsible professionals. Let them fail!
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Thank you. Why is it so hard to link to the damn link of interest in article summaries? Why must one always dig it from comments?
I'm not too familiar with what exactly is going on here and the reach of the issues but how about Vonage Canada? Did Verizon register the patent up here as well? Does it even matter (considering traffic still goes through American based technology/infrastructure)?..
I indeed yawned many times while reading the article. Almost every time I saw the word "yawn" I imagined a person yawning which automatically made me yawn.
"I know lots of people have a beef with various aspects of Vista, but they don't bother me. I don't watch downloaded movies on my PC, I use it for gaming and surfing and developing, so the DRM that may be in it doesn't bother me personally."
I don't know about you but the very fact that DRM is running in the background constantly policing my every move while wasting resources when I _don't_ download movies to watch on my PC would personally bother me more so than if I did download movies.
Question, why does one need a totally different CD to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04? If I understand the instructions correctly, if you don't want to upgrade over the network using the Update Manager, you cannot use the regular 7.04 desktop CD and must use the alternate CD? Did I read that right (this was mentioned in freenode #ubuntu as well)? It seems to me that the 7.04 desktop CD should be capable of upgrading an existing installation as well no? Wouldn't that be "ideal"? I'm nowhere near familiar with Linux distribution issues so would you mind explaining some of the technical issues here? Just honest curiosity, thanks!
We're talking about children here. Most adults would brush off what is called cyber bullying
Are you sure about that?
In my case, I develop software for a pretty popular North American sports site (30k-50k visitors per day during season, mostly US & Canada with some smaller presence in some Scandinavian countries).
MS Internet Explorer 82.9%
Firefox 12.2%
Safari 2.4%
Opera 1%
And the rest...
A shift from last year at the same time:
MS Internet Explorer 84.6 %
Firefox 10.7 %
Safari 1.8 %
Netscape 1.2 %
Mozilla 0.5 %
Opera 0.4 %
And the rest..
I think one of the big problems is not so much the lack of content offered in the classroom. The bigger problem I see IMHO is the lack of interest from students as a result of a poor introduction into what UNIX really is and how it will come to play in their careers (ie: beyond their gaming desktop).
I have recently gone back to school to finish up my CS degree after having worked in the industry for several years and I'm surprised at the ignorance of UNIX/Linux's usefulness from people who have already taken a UNIX/Linux course in my school. It seems profs are jumping straight into bash scripting without properly introducing what UNIX really is, what the difference between UNIX and Linux is, how it is used today, why it is important to learn it, how it is different than Windows, the philosophy behind UNIX, how it is useful as a tool, etc. All students are being exposed to is a command line and some scripting. No context in the technology whatsoever. It is then not surprising that students come out of those courses thinking UNIX and Linux are useless since Windows/Macs do it better, easier. This results in them erasing whatever little knowledge they acquired as soon as exams are done with.
It offers our Windows-centric Slashdot breatheren a nice overview
John and Mark don't have net access on Mondays so they wouldn't have been able to read this article anyways.
Did I mistype the URL? No, it does say slashdot.org. Odd... I should go back to bed.
I am one of those people's who vpn, ssh, and uses bittorents in legal forms and had a hell of a time getting my old Rogers connection to play nice ever since some group of fucktard managers decided that we were getting too much value for our money. Rogers, Bell, those two elephants of communications in Canada both equally love to abuse their customers.
I know from a few engineering friends that Rogers' network is overloaded to hell. Devices are handling traffic x3 times what they were designed for. All this to cut costs and keep milking their monopoly. In the mean while, they know there are very few options for cable/dsl providers, and the other options are mediocre as well so they abuse consumers as they wish. It is the same with Bell, their phone service is overpriced and their customer service is the biggest pile of elephant dung I have ever experienced.
Here they are again, doing with customers as they please because they did not anticipate people were actually going to use their network as advertised. They are crippling one of the essential functionalities of the net and there is very little that can be done about it because the general public just bends over and continues to take it from Ted. Thank God I moved outside the coverage of Rogers and I'm using ACI+Vonage, they seem to be pretty consistent and reasonable with their bandwidth, we'll see how long until Rogers decides to buy them out.
If you build a house out of hardened excrements, it is still a house built out of shit even if you paint it pink.
Seems to me they've been at this for a while. Any Apple shareholders in the committee that decided this?
Here is a picture of him: Ø
"Open offices in Canada, where a skilled worker who can speak English and has a job offer is practically guaranteed a visa."
Guaranteed a visa "maybe", but not a job related to their profession. Like many others in Canada, I've had my share of chats with PhDs driving cabs.
Right, because we all know only wealthy individuals are skillful and capable of contributing towards our "first world" society.
It's not just you. As a matter a fact, so many people actually liked the idea that after hundreds of e-mails, Thinkgeek has decided to start making them.
;) We promise, we'll make it. In fact we are already working on it. You've just forced our hand! Click the 'email me when available' link above to get notified! Thanks! I guess the joke is on us this year :p"
From the site:
"Hey! You! Quit emailing us to make this for REAL already
If you actually bother to read the article you will see that IE (directly) is actually not the only affected software. Versions of Outlook before 2007 are affected and thus any Vista installation running that. Once again, VISTA is affected. period.
I'm a professional web developer. I've worked in the field for 5+ years and can tell a decent web application by just using it for a while. I have recently gone back to University and have gotten the chance to use Blackboard. My school uses it for everything from general announcements, to posting marks, posting of assignments, etc. While it does the minimum necessary job most of the time, it is a mediocre package IMO. The interface is very inconsistent, very confusing to navigate, glitches are experienced by students and teachers alike every term. I have yet to experience a single term in which profs do not have problems posting assignments, documents, etc. Somehow Blackboard always manages to leave half of the class out. The smarter profs make use of their own University web space to create a simple html page where they post their information. Whenever blackboard is involved, it is generally a messy experience.
That being said, why the hell does a web application break with an Operating System update? Is Microsoft at fault here? Did they mock around with how POST/GET variables get sent to the server or how the browser accepts server responses? Are cookies randomly getting erased from IE? CSS/HTML glitches in the new IE rendering the pages useless? Or is this Blackboard's own code depending on some obscure ActiveX/IE functionality that is no longer there in Vista and thus violating the #1 reason why web applications are so useful? - They are supposed to work everywhere, no matter what OS we use! I'm thinking it's the latter.
What part of "Successful exploitation allows execution of arbitrary code. NOTE: The vulnerability is currently being actively exploited." do you fail to understand?
Although I use Linux exclusively at home/work, here I am, silly fool, giving the benefit of the doubt to Vista and its "enhanced security". I've always been aware IE's ability to create holes in the most unrelated portions of the OS (cursor, help pages, etc) and yet, I thought that Vista, maybe, just maybe actually was worth its 5+years of development and it was not all spent in DRM crap. How foolish of me. Here is yet again another seemingly unrelated functionality affected by the disaster that is IE. I will not be surprised if tomorrow IE can make your desk lamp vulnerable.
The article does a decent job at introducing Linux and letting unaware people know that there is an alternative. However, it seemed to me that Linux was painted a little too much like a "hobby OS", light on functionality and not as powerful as commercial OS's. The whole "Linus Torvalds and a growing group of volunteers eventually did the highly improbable..." may show Linux as someone's project and nothing more serious, specially for people who are not aware of how Open/Free Software works. I would have liked to see reference to companies such as Google, IBM, HP, etc investing in Linux in terms of using it for their own purposes as well as pitching-in with the development. It may have put things into perspective and show how serious Linux really is in the technology world today.
Here is another clip wire didn't add
Sooner or later his friend may have needed to use Synaptic. There are many useful things that are not available through the the Add/Remove list.
If is truely for the sole purpose of helping people get back to studying, it is a very dangerous "solution". It will just allow more lazy people who don't have their priorities straight into society pretending to be responsible professionals. Let them fail!