It's indeed not a bad idea to help developers out like this, but seriously why only KDE? Not that I hate KDE, but seriously don't use KDE at all (and before you could ask, I don't use GNOME either).
I'm hoping to see something like adopt an open source developer.
I don't think Linux is competing against Windows or anything. It doesn't have to. It doesn't need to. Even though competitions do bring better products. Even though somehow you think it has to, that will not be the job of Linux to compete, it will be GNOME or KDE.
People use whatever they want to use and they need to use. As long as something is doing what it is supposed to do and user can make use of it, it wins.
I actually know some people who use Windows and they think *computers* are just like that. From time to time, it will not work, blue screen, has to reboot. Big deal.
Same theory. Some people live in the Matrix and they enjoy it even they know it. Others however might prefer to free their minds.
Windows blinds you from the truth, the truth that your computer should do more than just giving you blue screen.:)
I'm using Debian with working Chinese, Japanese and Korean.
Basically you have you sort out locale packages, fonts, and then inputing method (XIM), and lastly the apps you want to use chinese.
For locale, most distributions include proper and working locale packages. So all you have to do is install them. Locale packages are related to glibc btw. The way locale packages work has changed a bit from glibc 2.1 to 2.2. But anyway both work well.
And then for fonts. Most of the time, you need both X fonts (.bdf files) and truetype fonts. Both are quite easy to get on the net if your distribution of Linux doesn't include them. They are all in Debian, for example. And I think a chinese distribution like RedFlag will include a bunch of them.
For chinese, I use xcin for inputing. It supports big5 and gb encoding, and also all sorts of common inputing method, such as changjei, bopomofo, cantonese, etc. There are also people developing custom inputing method you can use with xcin, such as smartcj
Finally, applications to use. To start with, I think it's a must to have a terminal which works with the language you need. For example, I have crxvt (chinese rxvt). And so I can run all sort of text based programs with chinese working straight away.
Most of the time all you need is to do:
export LANG=zh_TW.Big5 XMODIFIERS=@im=xcin
for your environment. Run the inputing method, and then run your applications. Most applications will work pretty well with XIM.
For office software, I've tried Openoffice.org only, with inputing working. Sometimes it is buggy, but usable. As long as you have truetype fonts installed and Openoffice.org knows about those fonts, you're sorted. Printing works straight away too. While, Staroffice doesn not work properly with XIM, for some reasons.
I haven't tried any chinese linux distribution, but I imagine they might be even much more easier to setup for chinese.
Just a note for Japanese and Korean. I have kinput2 with canna server, kterm for Japanese. hanterm and ami for Korean. Both kinput2 and ami work with Openoffice.org, too.
I'm not a big fan of gnome. I'd say if you want to engine the gecko engine while you don't want to run mozilla, you should give skipstone a go. galeon has way too many dependencies on gnome libraries.
My current primary browsers are mozilla and netscape 4. Though crashing netscape 4 is damn easy, it does handle some pages better than gecko.
And, not that I hate opera, but I just don't want to mention that close source browser which depends on that non-free toolkit library:)
How much resource and money would be spent on sending people onto the moon? Should they be spending on something else to solve other problems in China?
A brief run under gdb and a brief look in the source code.
It's looking for monkey2.000 and monkey2.001 for some reasons.
If you do a ln -s monkey.000 monkey2.000 and ln -s monkey.001 monkey2.001, monkey 1 will run!
Sweet...
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Well I imagine a complete debian distro contains every single applications or utilties you could think of for linux. You don't get much when you buy a box of windows. A plain windows installation even with a full installation, I'd say there's nothing I really want to use, or useful at all. At least you'll need a box of m$ office?
AFAIK there are similiar stuffs that will run on linux and someone is running that on the ipaq too. And hence you can run it on any linux devices I guess.
3) You use gcc to compile on StrongARM because Linux runs on StrongARM (well obviously). ARMLinux has been around for years running on Acorn machines. You can also cross-compile to StrongARM using a x86 box - just./configure --target=arm-linux when compiling GCC.
Just a quick comment. Cross-compiling is not always as easy as it is. A lot of softwares out there are not packaged properly for cross compiling, even they're using stuffs like automake, autoconf, etc...
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Did an mplayer hack together with matrixview a while ago. Some of you here might enjoy it :)l
http://pigeond.net/mplayer/mplayer-matrixview.htm
Occasionally you might find one or two netwinders on ebay. I got mine from there about 1+ year ago.
:) (Potato only though)
And btw I've been always running Debian on it
Photos at http://pigeond.net/photos/netwinder/
It's indeed not a bad idea to help developers out like this, but seriously why only KDE? Not that I hate KDE, but seriously don't use KDE at all (and before you could ask, I don't use GNOME either).
I'm hoping to see something like adopt an open source developer.
... it runs Linux! :P
I don't think Linux is competing against Windows or anything. It doesn't have to. It doesn't need to. Even though competitions do bring better products. Even though somehow you think it has to, that will not be the job of Linux to compete, it will be GNOME or KDE.
:)
People use whatever they want to use and they need to use. As long as something is doing what it is supposed to do and user can make use of it, it wins.
I actually know some people who use Windows and they think *computers* are just like that. From time to time, it will not work, blue screen, has to reboot. Big deal.
Same theory. Some people live in the Matrix and they enjoy it even they know it. Others however might prefer to free their minds.
Windows blinds you from the truth, the truth that your computer should do more than just giving you blue screen.
I do agree a lot of points in that top 10 things, however, there's one thing wrong with Windows.
It just doesn't do what I need/want.
Which version of Debian are you on?
Do you have locale packages installed properly?
I have xcin for Chinese, kinput2 for Japanese, and ami for Korean. All working under Linux with inputing. All working for Openoffice.org, for example.
There is nothing to do with the kernel. However you need corresponding locale stuffs for glibc, which usually come with your Linux distribution.
I'm using Debian with working Chinese, Japanese and Korean.
Basically you have you sort out locale packages, fonts, and then inputing method (XIM), and lastly the apps you want to use chinese.
For locale, most distributions include proper and working locale packages. So all you have to do is install them. Locale packages are related to glibc btw. The way locale packages work has changed a bit from glibc 2.1 to 2.2. But anyway both work well.
And then for fonts. Most of the time, you need both X fonts (.bdf files) and truetype fonts. Both are quite easy to get on the net if your distribution of Linux doesn't include them. They are all in Debian, for example. And I think a chinese distribution like RedFlag will include a bunch of them.
For chinese, I use xcin for inputing. It supports big5 and gb encoding, and also all sorts of common inputing method, such as changjei, bopomofo, cantonese, etc. There are also people developing custom inputing method you can use with xcin, such as smartcj
Finally, applications to use. To start with, I think it's a must to have a terminal which works with the language you need. For example, I have crxvt (chinese rxvt). And so I can run all sort of text based programs with chinese working straight away.
Most of the time all you need is to do:
export LANG=zh_TW.Big5 XMODIFIERS=@im=xcin
for your environment. Run the inputing method, and then run your applications. Most applications will work pretty well with XIM.
For office software, I've tried Openoffice.org only, with inputing working. Sometimes it is buggy, but usable. As long as you have truetype fonts installed and Openoffice.org knows about those fonts, you're sorted. Printing works straight away too. While, Staroffice doesn not work properly with XIM, for some reasons.
I haven't tried any chinese linux distribution, but I imagine they might be even much more easier to setup for chinese.
Just a note for Japanese and Korean. I have kinput2 with canna server, kterm for Japanese. hanterm and ami for Korean. Both kinput2 and ami work with Openoffice.org, too.
I'm not a big fan of gnome. I'd say if you want to engine the gecko engine while you don't want to run mozilla, you should give skipstone a go. galeon has way too many dependencies on gnome libraries.
:)
My current primary browsers are mozilla and netscape 4. Though crashing netscape 4 is damn easy, it does handle some pages better than gecko.
And, not that I hate opera, but I just don't want to mention that close source browser which depends on that non-free toolkit library
How much resource and money would be spent on sending people onto the moon? Should they be spending on something else to solve other problems in China?
Just in case anyone is interested.
Yes, mobile phone with digital camera.
Nokia is going to release one, according to this infosync news.
Pretty nifty...
Easier for us to take photos anywhere anytime...
Easier for us to be taken anywhere anytime too...
For example, a link from the press release, http://members.tripod.com/mcmach1/voyeur.html.
I'm not saying it's evil, but I'm quite sure there are situations that you don't want people to see =)
"We almost forgot to mention this, but Linux recently became the first desktop OS to support enormously large file sizes."
So what about non-desktop OS then?
It used to be at scramm.org, but not anymore.
:/
And IIRC there was a scummserv too, and not sure where it's gone now.
More screenshots...
:)
3 games together
http://pigeond.net/images/scummvm.jpg
FYI, I just compiled scummvm for the ipaq (linux arm), unfortunately it doesn't run properly. I'm still looking into the problem.
Mind you, some more hacking will be needed, such as the default window size.
Further look, basically the source code from sf has hardcoded to monkey2:
scumm._exe_name = "monkey2"
A brief run under gdb and a brief look in the source code.
It's looking for monkey2.000 and monkey2.001 for some reasons.
If you do a ln -s monkey.000 monkey2.000 and ln -s monkey.001 monkey2.001, monkey 1 will run!
Sweet...
Well I imagine a complete debian distro contains every single applications or utilties you could think of for linux. You don't get much when you buy a box of windows. A plain windows installation even with a full installation, I'd say there's nothing I really want to use, or useful at all. At least you'll need a box of m$ office?
Well yes...
They will not die in that way, they will die in another way.
AFAIK there are similiar stuffs that will run on linux and someone is running that on the ipaq too. And hence you can run it on any linux devices I guess.
Ops, you forgot to mention micro$oft... :)
Like... how much memory is in there? :)
And I guess another important issue will be how hackable it will be?
3) You use gcc to compile on StrongARM because Linux runs on StrongARM (well obviously). ARMLinux has been around for years running on Acorn machines. You can also cross-compile to StrongARM using a x86 box - just ./configure --target=arm-linux when compiling GCC.
Just a quick comment. Cross-compiling is not always as easy as it is. A lot of softwares out there are not packaged properly for cross compiling, even they're using stuffs like automake, autoconf, etc...