heh, if you want to feel small, insignificant and just like a number, there's no place better to go than a Fortune 500 company. I work for a very large bank, and I have absolutely no illusions about what I am to them.
I love how they say "hey look, these guys are smart and good".
You know what I spent today doing? The first half the day was fixing and identifying the bugs that our onshore, out-sourced workers scratched their heads at. The second half consisted of re-writing the documenation originally assigned to them - but the end product was so pathetic I had to go through and re-write it.
While I realize that I haven't necessarily come into contact with every outsourced worker, my experience with them has been that while they are competent programmers, they adapt very poorly and do not perform well unless their hands are held. I work for a Fortune 100... nay, probably a Fortune 100 (one of the largest banks in the U.S.) and all I've seen is that the work does live up to the "outsourcing is good" hype. While they excel at simple tasks, anything requiring either learning new things or coming up with "outside the box" solutions, out oursourced workers simply don't have the ability.
I wouldn't say this is some weird racial disability, all of our onshore guys are bright and extremely polite individuals, who I would be good friends with outside of the work enviornment, but I would lay this on their training. They learn the syntax of their programming language, and enough english to get by, but to say they do the job well is a lie.
Orion is *exceptionally* easy to set up and get running. Good documentation too. Resin is behind on it's 3.0 docs (though 3.0 hasn't been official released iirc)
It's because they aren't some benevolent charity, they are a corporation. I realize some of you slept through business class, but the point of a corporation is to make money, not to help the customer.
They like to make up numbers. Same as "one pirated song costs us $X amount of dollars". I wonder how much of that piracy is highly priced productivity tools - Photoshop, Flash, 3DSMax, Visual Studio, etc etc, stuff that people can't really afford, so they are technically losing money, since it wouldn't have been bought in the first place.
Are they serious? Hell, I get that much SPAM a month. But in all seriousness, this is pretty weak. Really weak in fact. that comes out to ~66MB a day.
So much for playing games online, downloading game demos (those things are like 150-250MB a piece) and I don't think you can even download Mandrake's entire distribution (though that may be a sympton of Mandrake's bloat)...
I gott ask tho, at what point would it have made more sense just to buy a regular computer?
Because then he couldn't get it on slashdot?
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The article is pretty much spot on. By decree of some department head somehwere, 1/3 of the people in each gruop have to be GDC employees (GDC is the termed used for the 2 companies we outsource work to - InfoSys and Tata) - which means if you have 30 people in your group, 10 must be contractors, and 2/3 of those must be off shore.
What's really depressing is that these changes aren't being done to get BofA back in the black or because it's going down the drain. It's so that they can show 7% (or 4% or something, I can't remember) more profit than they did last year.
This is absolutely *killing* morale. People worry about jobs. A lot. Our group has actually lucked out a bit - due to the closing of remote offices and a couple people leaving for their own reasons, we've been spared - Our manager is fantastic, he's doing everything possible to keep from laying any of us off. But other groups aren't so lucky. Quite a few people were laid off today, so the rumor mill says.
It's tough. It's one thing to be laid off for poor performance - it's a whole other ballpark when you're simply getting replaced with somebody a little cheaper.
Actually, In "Dark Knight Strikes Again" (DK2) Batman beat the crap out of Superman. True, he softened him up with a robotic dinosaur and some type of kryptonite stuff, but by the time Superman got to him, he was about as powerful as a common street thug. Sans the bad attitude.
I don't believe anybody is saying that there should NOT be child pron sites - that's (pretty much) universally agreed on to be a "bad thing"
what I believe to be the problem is the fact that this makes backbone/service providers liable for the content that travels across their networks. this also sets a bad precident in allowing other things to be censored at the network level... even if they aren't such a hideously objectionable thing such as child pornography
People want the SONGS they want, at a low price, delivered through a digital medium.
What they DON'T want is inflated CD prices full of crap they don't want to listen to.
The whole music industry is based on the idea that "we can get one catchy song, pay ClearChannel to play it over and over on their station, and all the suckers will buy the whole album" - That's why singles have all but disappeared as of late.
That's why they are so pissed. They put up this big front of how morally objectionable trading songs over the net is, when the true motivation is that P2P apps let people get the one song off that craptastic album they actualyl want instead of going out and dropping $16 on a CD that they'll never listen to, aside from that one song.
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heh, if you want to feel small, insignificant and just like a number, there's no place better to go than a Fortune 500 company. I work for a very large bank, and I have absolutely no illusions about what I am to them.
If Greengrass finds a camera man who doesn't suffer from non-stop epileptic seizures, I'm cool with it.
Well, if they are reading everybody's spam, they are going to be damn good at spitting out buzzwords.
I'd hit it.
Jobs to India: A Second Look
I love how they say "hey look, these guys are smart and good".
You know what I spent today doing? The first half the day was fixing and identifying the bugs that our onshore, out-sourced workers scratched their heads at. The second half consisted of re-writing the documenation originally assigned to them - but the end product was so pathetic I had to go through and re-write it.
While I realize that I haven't necessarily come into contact with every outsourced worker, my experience with them has been that while they are competent programmers, they adapt very poorly and do not perform well unless their hands are held. I work for a Fortune 100... nay, probably a Fortune 100 (one of the largest banks in the U.S.) and all I've seen is that the work does live up to the "outsourcing is good" hype. While they excel at simple tasks, anything requiring either learning new things or coming up with "outside the box" solutions, out oursourced workers simply don't have the ability.
I wouldn't say this is some weird racial disability, all of our onshore guys are bright and extremely polite individuals, who I would be good friends with outside of the work enviornment, but I would lay this on their training. They learn the syntax of their programming language, and enough english to get by, but to say they do the job well is a lie.
I heard from a friend who works for AOL - their entire internal support staff is being moved offshore (to india).
i have no idea if this is the same layoffs though...
Orion is *exceptionally* easy to set up and get running. Good documentation too. Resin is behind on it's 3.0 docs (though 3.0 hasn't been official released iirc)
It's because they aren't some benevolent charity, they are a corporation. I realize some of you slept through business class, but the point of a corporation is to make money, not to help the customer.
They like to make up numbers. Same as "one pirated song costs us $X amount of dollars". I wonder how much of that piracy is highly priced productivity tools - Photoshop, Flash, 3DSMax, Visual Studio, etc etc, stuff that people can't really afford, so they are technically losing money, since it wouldn't have been bought in the first place.
... however much we wish it was.
What would be cool would be a giant hobbit taking destroying Manhatten. Can somebody line this up?
the kids aren't getting the bandwidth for free. they are already paying up for it.
and bandwidth *ISN'T THAT EXPENSIVE* - seriously
there are several providers (rackshack.net, nocster.com) which provide dedicated servers + 3 or 400GB of tranfer for $100/month.
don't give me that "OMG IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE" bull.
Well, if it's just for lab computers, I'd agree.
But if this is for the dorms and such - no, you're wrong. People in college aren't learning 24/7, they do have some type of free time.
What are they going to do next, limit the amount of electricity you can use? Hate to see kids using TV for something other than learning...
Are they serious? Hell, I get that much SPAM a month. But in all seriousness, this is pretty weak. Really weak in fact. that comes out to ~66MB a day.
:)
So much for playing games online, downloading game demos (those things are like 150-250MB a piece) and I don't think you can even download Mandrake's entire distribution (though that may be a sympton of Mandrake's bloat)...
Hey, I guess this will make Gentoo take off
heheh send me an email, i'd like to meet a fellow slashdotter :)
The article is pretty much spot on. By decree of some department head somehwere, 1/3 of the people in each gruop have to be GDC employees (GDC is the termed used for the 2 companies we outsource work to - InfoSys and Tata) - which means if you have 30 people in your group, 10 must be contractors, and 2/3 of those must be off shore.
What's really depressing is that these changes aren't being done to get BofA back in the black or because it's going down the drain. It's so that they can show 7% (or 4% or something, I can't remember) more profit than they did last year.
This is absolutely *killing* morale. People worry about jobs. A lot. Our group has actually lucked out a bit - due to the closing of remote offices and a couple people leaving for their own reasons, we've been spared - Our manager is fantastic, he's doing everything possible to keep from laying any of us off. But other groups aren't so lucky. Quite a few people were laid off today, so the rumor mill says.
It's tough. It's one thing to be laid off for poor performance - it's a whole other ballpark when you're simply getting replaced with somebody a little cheaper.
the peephole moves you?
Anyway, you're totally hosed if you're trying to read something while walking down the street.
Actually, In "Dark Knight Strikes Again" (DK2) Batman beat the crap out of Superman. True, he softened him up with a robotic dinosaur and some type of kryptonite stuff, but by the time Superman got to him, he was about as powerful as a common street thug. Sans the bad attitude.
It's generally considered fact that if Batman had enough time to plan, he could defeat God.
Superman would be trivial. Clark/Superman = strong as an ox, dumb as a stump.
I don't believe anybody is saying that there should NOT be child pron sites - that's (pretty much) universally agreed on to be a "bad thing"
what I believe to be the problem is the fact that this makes backbone/service providers liable for the content that travels across their networks. this also sets a bad precident in allowing other things to be censored at the network level... even if they aren't such a hideously objectionable thing such as child pornography
People want the SONGS they want, at a low price, delivered through a digital medium.
What they DON'T want is inflated CD prices full of crap they don't want to listen to.
The whole music industry is based on the idea that "we can get one catchy song, pay ClearChannel to play it over and over on their station, and all the suckers will buy the whole album" - That's why singles have all but disappeared as of late.
That's why they are so pissed. They put up this big front of how morally objectionable trading songs over the net is, when the true motivation is that P2P apps let people get the one song off that craptastic album they actualyl want instead of going out and dropping $16 on a CD that they'll never listen to, aside from that one song.
sue if you're not happy with something, and everybody's guilty until proven innocent. well, nobody's innocent anymore, are they?
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it is rather unfortunate that the RIAA's product is less talented than it's lawyers
real men use try { } catch { }!
Good News: It wasn't dug out of a dangerous mine by a child.
Bad News: It used to be a dead guy.