It's pretty obvious what's wrong with the ads on the net, isn't it? A site that isn't making any money has ads on it to cover some expenses, the ads are banners for other sites that are also not making any money and so the circle is complete.
The money initially pumped into these companies is running out, so there is no one left to pay for the banners.
The Internet needs big companies to realize that it's a great place to advertise! We need Coca Cola ads, shampoo banners and all the crap we're used to from watching TV. Those are the ads that actually bring some real value to the advertisers as they need their trademark to be displayed everywhere you go.
It is time for the Internet to grow up. It's not going to be pretty, but it has to.
Whoa! A filemanager, nicely packaged in a 10MB tarball. Ah yes, technologial progress at its best. Im sure there are millions of reasons for why this is such a Good Thing(tm) (its "features" *cough*bloat*cough*), but come on!
What exactly are we aiming at here? Gnome 2.0, Nautilus, Mozilla, Star Office. Hell, even Code Commander and Xchat are sluggish because of the zxcv#"%RWEARg "canvas" or whatever the name of what theyre using. I seem to remember Linux being praised as really slim and fast. Thats still true as long as you dont try to start X!
The Ximian monkey shouldve been a fat gorilla to symbolise their goal of absolute bloat.
Moderate me down as flamebait, reduntant and troll all together if you want, but I just had to whine some. I -do not- understand why everyone keeps swallowing this crap!
Linux is great, but the so called "GUIs" suck ass. Why oh why cant someone write a from-scratch GUI for Linux? Fuck the bloat. My AMIGA was quite usable thank you! There should be plenty of headroom for USABLE "features" considering todays computers are about a gazillion times faster.
Re:I think we'd have more important problems
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Youre assuming that the typical computer geek has no other skills. Wrong, I say! Geeks in general tend to be excellent theorists (something that has always been important, and always will be important). Many geeks also love building things and solving problems.
Id say that geeks would certainly not be the first ones to perish (except perhaps the ones with -really- bad physique).
The "typical" computer geek does not exist! The "geeks" are in fact a range of different types of people that share one common passion. Computers. Some collect, some build, some simply slack off and play games and others document and "clean up".
Why is it that the industry (be it music, movie or software) simply does not understand that trying to gain this form of control over what they own only makes people more inclined to copy it?
I buy my CDs, DVDs and software. I also have all my CDs encoded as mp3's while the discs themselves are stuffed in a shelf (and rarely used, I might add). I like paying for my CDs because I want the artists to keep making music that I like. It's very natural to me.
So would it be a problem for me if they started trying to prevent me from encoding the songs to mp3's and do whatever I damn please with them? It would piss me off. It's my right to decide if I want to listen to the song I just bought in my RIO when I'm out walking or on the stereo with the mp3-jukebox in the livingroom.
Using a ram-disk to cache web-content seems a bit strange.. Most browsers I have seen already have options for setting how much ram you want to use for cache, and all you would have to do is increase it. When it comes to/tmp, if you have enough ram, Linux will just write-behind cache the file until its use is over.
Hey, Im sorry but the utopia of the Internet being free for everyone and that the small guy has the same rights and "power" as a huge company has never been true.
Lets see...
"Slashdot's new co-location site is now at Andover.Net's own (pinky finger to the mouth) $1 million dedicated datacenter at the Exodus network facility"
You mean that if you have lots of money to throw at your servers and hosting, your sitell load faster? Wow.
Is this perhaps because of Intel?
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Perhaps it is simply because Intel has been unable to supply enough chips for quite some time? The Athlon has allready become well known, and when faced with that your potential new PIII wont be available for another month, its easy to go for the Athlon instead.
I dont blame AMD for not predicting that Intel would be unable to supply enough chips.. This is a hard game to play, and nearly impossible to win.
Might I dare ask if the stupid interface is supposed to crawl? It's pathetic.
The whole package is great. It renders pages really nicely, and I understand that lots of sites simply don't follow the standards and therefore look strange and all so that's not a problem.. I can take that it crashes now and then since it's a preview, but I -CAN NOT- take that I can actually watch the stupid dialogs draw on the screen!
We should follow the proud tradition created by the users of SlashDot and done since the begining of time and slashdot someones Dreamcast just for the hell of it.
If we dont, someone might think we dont exist anymore, and therefore that Linux is dead, that since WinCE runs on the Dreamcast and we failed to slashdot the Dreamcast that Sega is actually MS and that Bill Gates is actually Sonic and that Im waaaay off topic. What a world.
Unsubstained claims? The only thing I claim is my own thoughts on the subject. I do not claim that Mandrake are bad-guys. I claim that I >thinkI dislike.
*sigh*
Why is it one cant post a thought on Slashdot without being called an idiot? I have no problem with people telling me I am wrong if they tell me why, but this?
I guess more can not be expected. It seems most people are confusing Free Software with Free Beer.
The GPL, as pointed out several times in this thread, does indeed encourage people to share. That RedHat has done this is good, very good. My point was not that Mandrake should not be allowed to do so.
I have released really silly, and very simple CGI-scripts completely free. Not GPLed since I really dont care if anyone uses the code and doesnt credit me (they are simply too simple to care), and I enjoy the feeling that gives me. That someone may perhaps have been helped by it. I enjoy being able to find free code someone else has written and learn from it. But I would never do what Mandrake is doing. Taking a complete product, put a sticker on and sell it, thereby taking the business (and thereby the motivation of the original coder away) away from whoever wrote it.
End of discussion. End of thread. For me that is. I am sure there will be a few more you-are-an-idiot-posts. I am just through answering them.
Please, dont insult me by thinking I dont know the GPL. I know very well that they are allowed to do it. I think they shouldnt. There is a difference. A big one.
Read the GPL? Trust me, I know very well that they are allowed to do what they are doing, and I have no problem with that they are doing it either.
That RedHat uses GPLed software in something they sell doesnt bother me. When someone release a piece of software under the GPL they dont expect to make money from it, and they absolutely do not loose money if it ends up in a dist like RedHat.
Mandrake is making money off something that RedHat is trying to sell, and I just think that it is crappy. I would happily use Mandrake, but I would never pay for it. I know its available, just like RedHat, for free. But at the same time I am more than happy to pay for RedHat, simply because I like the idea of supporting their work.
Am I the only one that think that what Mandrake is doing is really, really bad? Their distro may be very good, or it may be really bad. I dont know since I havent tried it.
But I will NEVER give a cent to Mandrake. I feel, and very strongly at that, that "taking" RedHat and change it around a little and sell it, thereby "stealing" customers from RedHat, just because RedHat is really nice and has released their install under the GPL.
I am very happy RedHat has done this, and I am equally happy about dists based upon RedHat that are FREE (as in debian-free). They bring quality competition.
Oh well. I just think that what they are doing sucks. If they succeed and become the nr 1 dist, thereby bringing RedHat down, they wont have a dist anymore. Shame on them.
Please dont take this as flamebait. Its just that I had to "tell" someone.
I am sure this is true. But as with all other trends, this one will turn around too. And then back again. And then...... You get the point.
I think it may have something to do with the "type" of visitors. In the old days the people visiting sites where the ones who had allready been on the net for quite some time and where used to it. Now alot of the users are new, and I dont find it very strange that they go to sites they know that they will find something on instead of trying searching for themselfes.
I am sure this will change when this "wave" of new users has become veterans too.
Its tough when an operating system, in this case Linux, is judged by all the outsiders (and in some cases ourselves aswell) by the actions of the users.
What can be done to prevent it? Nothing I guess.. Linus himself isnt Linux, RedHat isnt Linux. The users are in themselves, Linux. And when the users behave badly, the Linux community behaves badly. Therefore, Linux is bad. To the wintel-world that is.
It seems this thread is about to turn into one great discussion about GUIs in general so I thought Id throw my take in the mixer aswell..
I am having some difficulty understanding the whole "is X more bloated than Windows" thing.
I have no real understanding of X and/or what it is really, as far as I understand it is just the layer between the windowmanager and the "output?" (graphics card, or whatever), the windowmanager, widget-libraries and things like CORBA has to do all the work. Is this true? Could X more or less be replaced by something lightning fast and very small as long as it can draw stuff on my screen (I DO understand that all the applications and widget-sets would have to be ported/rewritten though)?
Please dont get me wrong, I use X every day and I like it. But I still feel like it really doesnt "do" anything, like it is just something large and memory consuming "blocking the way" to speed.
Could someone please explain to me what X actually does to help a project such as GNOME or KDE out? More than providing the "drivers" and such for the display?
/me is feeling quite lost here:).
Please dont just flame me, I am not someone you need to fight with, I advocate the use of Linux and X as much as I can, the questions above are simply a product of my ignorance, but I would still like to get an answer to better understand it all.
I would say that the mere fact that KDE and GNOME both exist and are under active development is enough proof that the developers of the corresponding system is not happy with the other.
Its that simple.
If Im happy with a program, I dont try to change it, much less try to code my own.
I would find it very strange if the KDE-developers didnt have more faith in their own applications than they have in GTK/GNOME ones.
Oh well, I think Ive made my point, no point in going on, is there?:).
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You're missing the point. I'm not talking about the kind of ads, but rather the companies that advertise.
Old fashioned trademark ads from big companies are way to uncommon, and they're the only ones who can actually afford it.
It's pretty obvious what's wrong with the ads on the net, isn't it? A site that isn't making any money has ads on it to cover some expenses, the ads are banners for other sites that are also not making any money and so the circle is complete.
The money initially pumped into these companies is running out, so there is no one left to pay for the banners.
The Internet needs big companies to realize that it's a great place to advertise! We need Coca Cola ads, shampoo banners and all the crap we're used to from watching TV. Those are the ads that actually bring some real value to the advertisers as they need their trademark to be displayed everywhere you go.
It is time for the Internet to grow up. It's not going to be pretty, but it has to.
Of course they won't. This isn't new. Try running apps written for the III or V on older models.
Whoa! A filemanager, nicely packaged in a 10MB tarball. Ah yes, technologial progress at its best. Im sure there are millions of reasons for why this is such a Good Thing(tm) (its "features" *cough*bloat*cough*), but come on!
What exactly are we aiming at here? Gnome 2.0, Nautilus, Mozilla, Star Office. Hell, even Code Commander and Xchat are sluggish because of the zxcv#"%RWEARg "canvas" or whatever the name of what theyre using. I seem to remember Linux being praised as really slim and fast. Thats still true as long as you dont try to start X!
The Ximian monkey shouldve been a fat gorilla to symbolise their goal of absolute bloat.
Moderate me down as flamebait, reduntant and troll all together if you want, but I just had to whine some. I -do not- understand why everyone keeps swallowing this crap!
Linux is great, but the so called "GUIs" suck ass. Why oh why cant someone write a from-scratch GUI for Linux? Fuck the bloat. My AMIGA was quite usable thank you! There should be plenty of headroom for USABLE "features" considering todays computers are about a gazillion times faster.
Youre assuming that the typical computer geek has no other skills. Wrong, I say! Geeks in general tend to be excellent theorists (something that has always been important, and always will be important). Many geeks also love building things and solving problems.
Id say that geeks would certainly not be the first ones to perish (except perhaps the ones with -really- bad physique).
The "typical" computer geek does not exist! The "geeks" are in fact a range of different types of people that share one common passion. Computers. Some collect, some build, some simply slack off and play games and others document and "clean up".
Why is it that the industry (be it music, movie or software) simply does not understand that trying to gain this form of control over what they own only makes people more inclined to copy it?
I buy my CDs, DVDs and software. I also have all my CDs encoded as mp3's while the discs themselves are stuffed in a shelf (and rarely used, I might add). I like paying for my CDs because I want the artists to keep making music that I like. It's very natural to me.
So would it be a problem for me if they started trying to prevent me from encoding the songs to mp3's and do whatever I damn please with them? It would piss me off. It's my right to decide if I want to listen to the song I just bought in my RIO when I'm out walking or on the stereo with the mp3-jukebox in the livingroom.
To quote the space.com article you link to:
:).
"Now, nearly 7 billion miles from Earth"
Exchange "light years" for "miles" and you're all set
Still very cool though.
Using a ram-disk to cache web-content seems a bit strange.. Most browsers I have seen already have options for setting how much ram you want to use for cache, and all you would have to do is increase it. When it comes to /tmp, if you have enough ram, Linux will just write-behind cache the file until its use is over.
There is a mirror on http://finnegan.metamatrix.se/dejavu/emulator.htm that seems ok for now ;)
And the poor little site is already slashdotted..
They might as well start working with sun directly and just change their slogan to "Mozilla is the computer"..
Hey, Im sorry but the utopia of the Internet being free for everyone and that the small guy has the same rights and "power" as a huge company has never been true.
Lets see...
"Slashdot's new co-location site is now at Andover.Net's own (pinky finger to the mouth) $1 million dedicated datacenter at the Exodus network facility"
You mean that if you have lots of money to throw at your servers and hosting, your sitell load faster? Wow.
Perhaps it is simply because Intel has been unable to supply enough chips for quite some time? The Athlon has allready become well known, and when faced with that your potential new PIII wont be available for another month, its easy to go for the Athlon instead.
I dont blame AMD for not predicting that Intel would be unable to supply enough chips.. This is a hard game to play, and nearly impossible to win.
Might I dare ask if the stupid interface is supposed to crawl? It's pathetic.
The whole package is great. It renders pages really nicely, and I understand that lots of sites simply don't follow the standards and therefore look strange and all so that's not a problem.. I can take that it crashes now and then since it's a preview, but I -CAN NOT- take that I can actually watch the stupid dialogs draw on the screen!
We should follow the proud tradition created by the users of SlashDot and done since the begining of time and slashdot someones Dreamcast just for the hell of it.
If we dont, someone might think we dont exist anymore, and therefore that Linux is dead, that since WinCE runs on the Dreamcast and we failed to slashdot the Dreamcast that Sega is actually MS and that Bill Gates is actually Sonic and that Im waaaay off topic. What a world.
Time to go to bed.
Unsubstained claims? The only thing I claim is my own thoughts on the subject. I do not claim that Mandrake are bad-guys. I claim that I >thinkI dislike.
*sigh*
Why is it one cant post a thought on Slashdot without being called an idiot? I have no problem with people telling me I am wrong if they tell me why, but this?
I guess more can not be expected. It seems most people are confusing Free Software with Free Beer.
The GPL, as pointed out several times in this thread, does indeed encourage people to share. That RedHat has done this is good, very good. My point was not that Mandrake should not be allowed to do so.
I have released really silly, and very simple CGI-scripts completely free. Not GPLed since I really dont care if anyone uses the code and doesnt credit me (they are simply too simple to care), and I enjoy the feeling that gives me. That someone may perhaps have been helped by it. I enjoy being able to find free code someone else has written and learn from it. But I would never do what Mandrake is doing. Taking a complete product, put a sticker on and sell it, thereby taking the business (and thereby the motivation of the original coder away) away from whoever wrote it.
End of discussion. End of thread. For me that is. I am sure there will be a few more you-are-an-idiot-posts. I am just through answering them.
Please, dont insult me by thinking I dont know the GPL. I know very well that they are allowed to do it. I think they shouldnt. There is a difference. A big one.
Being called dumb is always nice...
Read the GPL? Trust me, I know very well that they are allowed to do what they are doing, and I have no problem with that they are doing it either.
That RedHat uses GPLed software in something they sell doesnt bother me. When someone release a piece of software under the GPL they dont expect to make money from it, and they absolutely do not loose money if it ends up in a dist like RedHat.
Mandrake is making money off something that RedHat is trying to sell, and I just think that it is crappy. I would happily use Mandrake, but I would never pay for it. I know its available, just like RedHat, for free. But at the same time I am more than happy to pay for RedHat, simply because I like the idea of supporting their work.
Am I the only one that think that what Mandrake is doing is really, really bad? Their distro may be very good, or it may be really bad. I dont know since I havent tried it.
But I will NEVER give a cent to Mandrake. I feel, and very strongly at that, that "taking" RedHat and change it around a little and sell it, thereby "stealing" customers from RedHat, just because RedHat is really nice and has released their install under the GPL.
I am very happy RedHat has done this, and I am equally happy about dists based upon RedHat that are FREE (as in debian-free). They bring quality competition.
Oh well. I just think that what they are doing sucks. If they succeed and become the nr 1 dist, thereby bringing RedHat down, they wont have a dist anymore. Shame on them.
Please dont take this as flamebait. Its just that I had to "tell" someone.
I am sure this is true. But as with all other trends, this one will turn around too. And then back again. And then...... You get the point.
I think it may have something to do with the "type" of visitors. In the old days the people visiting sites where the ones who had allready been on the net for quite some time and where used to it. Now alot of the users are new, and I dont find it very strange that they go to sites they know that they will find something on instead of trying searching for themselfes.
I am sure this will change when this "wave" of new users has become veterans too.
Its tough when an operating system, in this case Linux, is judged by all the outsiders (and in some cases ourselves aswell) by the actions of the users.
What can be done to prevent it? Nothing I guess.. Linus himself isnt Linux, RedHat isnt Linux. The users are in themselves, Linux. And when the users behave badly, the Linux community behaves badly. Therefore, Linux is bad. To the wintel-world that is.
It seems this thread is about to turn into one great discussion about GUIs in general so I thought Id throw my take in the mixer aswell..
:).
I am having some difficulty understanding the whole "is X more bloated than Windows" thing.
I have no real understanding of X and/or what it is really, as far as I understand it is just the layer between the windowmanager and the "output?" (graphics card, or whatever), the windowmanager, widget-libraries and things like CORBA has to do all the work. Is this true? Could X more or less be replaced by something lightning fast and very small as long as it can draw stuff on my screen (I DO understand that all the applications and widget-sets would have to be ported/rewritten though)?
Please dont get me wrong, I use X every day and I like it. But I still feel like it really doesnt "do" anything, like it is just something large and memory consuming "blocking the way" to speed.
Could someone please explain to me what X actually does to help a project such as GNOME or KDE out? More than providing the "drivers" and such for the display?
/me is feeling quite lost here
Please dont just flame me, I am not someone you need to fight with, I advocate the use of Linux and X as much as I can, the questions above are simply a product of my ignorance, but I would still like to get an answer to better understand it all.
I would say that the mere fact that KDE and GNOME both exist and are under active development is enough proof that the developers of the corresponding system is not happy with the other.
:).
Its that simple.
If Im happy with a program, I dont try to change it, much less try to code my own.
I would find it very strange if the KDE-developers didnt have more faith in their own applications than they have in GTK/GNOME ones.
Oh well, I think Ive made my point, no point in going on, is there?
This sucks more than anything has ever sucked before