Do you actually think that MSFT's 600 lawyers would be stupid enough to allow someone to admit to wrongdoing concerning this consent decree? Even once?
Sure, it'd make you feel better. But if they ever did, 99% of the folks here would be calling for blood (yeah, yeah, i know... i mean *more* blood).
What Apple does when they add new features to the OS is to simply set the bar higher for 3rd party developers.
Are you suggesting that 3rd party developers who may have created an application for that feature that is now a part of the operating system "adapt or die" or something else? If that's what you mean, then you seem to be praising Apple for doing something that Microsoft also does.
For instance, I believe that a virus scanner should be an integral part of an operating system. Now imagine if Microsoft decides to add one and it's just as good as 3rd party scanners. Also imagine if Apple did the same. Is one scenario different from the other?
They'll just figure there aren't any widget suppliers in Mytown. Are the webmasters going to complain? Hell yes, loudly, and rightly so.
Rightly so? So these webmasters are complaining because a search engine that indexes their site FOR FREE is not showing them in the search results where they were before? Sure they can complain, but I don't think it's "rightly so". If they don't like it, maybe they can ask for their money back?
Finally, somebody gets it right. Microsoft is using the browser technology they put into Internet Explorer to support other products (as a help system viewer, for UI enhancements, etc.). The "browser" isn't a tool that can be replaced anymore. It's a part of the OS. While you can currently get other tools to do the same things as Internet Explorer, Microsoft is using the technology to build even better products. Nobody seems to get this.
Personally, I don't understand why Microsoft didn't just call it "Explorer". This "Explorer" would have been able to view Word Docs, Excel Spreadsheets, the filesystem, etc. while "well, would you look at that!" also allowing you to view web pages. That would have given the states fits to try and prove (that IE could be removed). This is the point. IE doesn't exist just to view web pages. It's moved beyond that point. But most folks still can't (refuse?) to see it that way.
Just don't get me started on the lack of native DVD playback support in XP...
I haven't played in close to ten years but I always found that the best adventures, for me and my players, was for me to improvise 80%+ of the time. I'd prepare an adventure (just a bit more than an outline) ahead of time based on which characters were being played. I'd then choose out some good artwork (good --> stuff they'd never seen before), miniatures (players and monsters), and anything else I needed (I can't remember the name of the company now, but there's a company out there that makes styrofoam hexes that you can cut, shape and paint and put together to make dungeons, caverns, etc.). Choosing miniatures was fun because I usually had new ones each time we played and I generally would leave them out for the players to see before the game so that they'd get to "ooo" and "ahh" over what they might run into. But after I got behind my GM screen with my dice and outline, I'd start to weave a story (which usually started with the company in an Inn during a thunderstorm... cheesy, I know, but effective). I found that the more often I did this, the better the stories, the adventures and, thus, the evening was.
At first glance I figured that introducing the kids to robotics would be prohibitively expensive. Who would pay for the materials? The school? In my hometown: "Not bloody likely." However, those Lego Mindstorms are look pretty interesting and aren't that expensive (IMO). Plus, somebody already cracked them so why not delve into how they were made and how they work (after learning how to control them)?
BTW, do HS kids even think Legos (even Mindstorms) are cool? Or would they ever be caught dead with them?
Either way, when I was in HS, I would've killed for something like this.
As for web design, I would have loved to have learned about how to use Macromedia's Flash technology (were it around when I was in HS). Some of the stuff that's out there now is amazing and I know some of it is created by HS kids. Perhaps some of our astute/. readers could expound on whether using Flash in the HSs would be a good idea?
but "web applications" != "websites". Big difference. Microsoft will dominate the "web application" (applications running in a browser) before anyone realizes what happens. It may not make any sense right now, but it will.
It'll be a serious mistake (IMO) if they leave out the millions of people who make the 'Net go with their personal sites, etc. if something akin to the proposed.NOM or.PER (or whatever it was) doesn't make it to the final list.
And no,.ORG isn't for a personal site. Nor is a.COM or a.NET.
I keep hearing more and more from web developers that Microsoft isn't supporting all of the standards and pushing forward with their own (proprietary, at least at the moment) technologies. But folks, you need to start to see the big picture.
First, Microsoft owns the browser market. Owns it. 86% proves that. So they're taking the arrogant position of not working hard enough to implement the standards (although I hear the Mac version of IE does it stunningly well). But guess what, they don't HAVE to (as ugly as that is).
But the point is, there's more to a browser than browsing web pages. In the next versions of Windows (yeah, it's not Linux/BSD/whatever; I hope you're still reading:-), the browser is going to be where you run *all* of your applications. ALL of them. No more Win32 APIs (in the client application, that is; you'll still need them to create Web Services), no fat installations, nothing. Just go to a URL ( anything you need will be set up for you) and voila, you're up and running. That's what part of the.NET strategy is about. MS is leveraging all of the existing code out there (thru XML-compliant SOAP calls) to push themselves towards the end game (where all applications run in the browser; namely their browser). Why do you all think you keep hearing about renting your applications thru ASPs? Because you'll access your applications through your web browser.
That said, MS is innovating in ways that are currently irrelevant to the "web developer" (read: the guys who develop web SITES not web APPLICATIONS). They're bringing along their standards compliance at a slow pace so they CANNOT be accused of doing NOTHING, but (even I admit) they're support is coming along too slowly. Those "colored scroll bars"? Applications, not sites.
In their grand scheme, the standards aren't what's critical to their future. It's the _applications_. Not some clunky little web site. Think "rich, immersive applications." Not anything like we have today and you'll begin to see what's going on in Redmond.
That show simply kicked @$$! In my area it was on for about three weeks until the "new" Voltron came out (the one with the *vehicles* not the *lions*).
Oh, and nobody could lay the smack down like Thundarr! I'm still trying to remember his sidekick's names. There was the wizard and Umlok (?). Dang, what WERE they?!
I thought the same thing. Especially when I read this from another post:
As somebody pointed out a few days ago, shouldn't they be learning valuable research skills by going out and finding these sources on their own?
In this day and age? Opening Google.Com (or your favorite search engine/software) and typing in "nanotech" isn't "valuable research skills". Those skills require a different situation to acquire than writing a paper, surely.
Heck, do libraries still even exist? I haven't been out of my basement for three months (quite literally... almost) to check.
As did I. Some twenty minutes later (don't know what took me so long) I was in my car racing off to Barnes&Noble to pick up the boxed set (The Hobbit plus LOTR).
Just finished The Hobbit and am preparing to tackle the Fellowship of the Ring.
As I was reading The Hobbit, I was noticing so much more detail than I remember from my prior reading (some ten years earlier)... how Bilbo's dwarven companions were in the barrels for two days and escaped being detected three times (initally in the Elvenking's stronghold, again on the river by the elves charged with moving the barrels down the river and when they landed). The detail of Bilbo's interaction with Smaug gave me chills!
Truly this was an excellent work. I look forward to rereading LOTR and even more so to it's theatrical debut!
Perhaps SlashDot needs to think about adding a new feature to the site? I would propose they give each story that appears a particular "type" definition that can be used for "quick searches" or could be used in response to an Ask SlashDot submission. This question could have had the types of "MP3" and "player", for example.
In this case, the question could have still been posted, but the response could have *immediateely* listed 5 or 6 links to stories already submitted on SlashDot about "MP3" and "players". This would still allow for the ability for SlashDotters to talk about the product (even if it is for a second or third time... who doesn't like talking about things several times? Especially when they're cool)? But also gives immediate additional information up front.
*shrug* I think it'd be a nice feature to have.
I'm not sure if the method for posting articles to the front page of SlashDot is a point-and-click operation (I'd assume it was) and if it is, how hard would it be to add this sort of functionality?
[IMO, as long as the same topic isn't posted every two days, I couldn't care less how many times it appears. If I don't want to read it, I won't. But I also won't let it work me up to the point that I'm griping about SlashDot's lack of ability in keeping up with the 1000s of stories they've posted over the years...]
Just asking. I'm ordering the paperbacks right now so maybe I'll find out. But I don't remember the answer to that from the time I spent reading these in high school (10+ years ago).
who know WAY too much detail about the answer to this question. Is there a Tolkien University out there somewhere I haven't heard of? Or an ICS program?
"If you don't have enough time to spend with your children, don't have them . . . it's that simple."
Actually, it's not, but that's not the comment I want to make (nor is SlashDot the place to discuss it).
I'm pro-filter but you make an intersting point about a "children's library". That may be completely impractical for many libraries, but why not a bank of computers that are reserved for children (with filters if the community decides they should be installed) and a bank of computers that are reserved for adults? *My* hometown library wouldn't need to do this (the computers are situated right out in the open) but it may be a good idea for others. Until your comment I hadn't thought about that as a possible solution.
Tesla is one guy who really got screwed by history. I remember back in the day (OK, early 90s when I was still *listening* to Tesla, the band) doing some research for a college paper on Tesla. He was also the one that pressed for the use of Alternating Current when Edison was pushing for Direct Current. We all know which one is more widely used, but somehow, we all think Edison came up with that idea.
Tesla was, however, very eccentric which didn't help his image any.
Kind of interesting that CT says that they hacked these out a year ago and in the next breathe, seems to whine for a Linux port? Matter of fact, it seems that every time something cool comes out that isn't on Linux yet, there's a whining for someone else to do it? Why don't these guys quit whining and do it themselves?
[Or would that get back to the topic of their hypocrisy when it comes to OSS?]
I would wonder if the OS division would simply begin charging a larger amount for the operating system? As you say, Office is the primary revenue generator. If they're divided into three companies, each will have to keep itself afloat. How does a company do this? It generates revenue. If current levels aren't enough, I can see prices being raised.
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Maybe HailStorm was a step in this direction? :-)
Do you actually think that MSFT's 600 lawyers would be stupid enough to allow someone to admit to wrongdoing concerning this consent decree? Even once?
Sure, it'd make you feel better. But if they ever did, 99% of the folks here would be calling for blood (yeah, yeah, i know... i mean *more* blood).
What Apple does when they add new features to the OS is to simply set the bar higher for 3rd party developers.
Are you suggesting that 3rd party developers who may have created an application for that feature that is now a part of the operating system "adapt or die" or something else? If that's what you mean, then you seem to be praising Apple for doing something that Microsoft also does.
For instance, I believe that a virus scanner should be an integral part of an operating system. Now imagine if Microsoft decides to add one and it's just as good as 3rd party scanners. Also imagine if Apple did the same. Is one scenario different from the other?
Am I sensing a double-standard?
They'll just figure there aren't any widget suppliers in Mytown. Are the webmasters going to complain? Hell yes, loudly, and rightly so.
Rightly so? So these webmasters are complaining because a search engine that indexes their site FOR FREE is not showing them in the search results where they were before? Sure they can complain, but I don't think it's "rightly so". If they don't like it, maybe they can ask for their money back?
Finally, somebody gets it right. Microsoft is using the browser technology they put into Internet Explorer to support other products (as a help system viewer, for UI enhancements, etc.). The "browser" isn't a tool that can be replaced anymore. It's a part of the OS. While you can currently get other tools to do the same things as Internet Explorer, Microsoft is using the technology to build even better products. Nobody seems to get this.
Personally, I don't understand why Microsoft didn't just call it "Explorer". This "Explorer" would have been able to view Word Docs, Excel Spreadsheets, the filesystem, etc. while "well, would you look at that!" also allowing you to view web pages. That would have given the states fits to try and prove (that IE could be removed). This is the point. IE doesn't exist just to view web pages. It's moved beyond that point. But most folks still can't (refuse?) to see it that way.
Just don't get me started on the lack of native DVD playback support in XP...
Pay the money and go home (don't actually see the film). What else? :-)
Come on now. We all know the Chaotic Evil guys would just kill everyone in the theatre! :-)
I haven't played in close to ten years but I always found that the best adventures, for me and my players, was for me to improvise 80%+ of the time. I'd prepare an adventure (just a bit more than an outline) ahead of time based on which characters were being played. I'd then choose out some good artwork (good --> stuff they'd never seen before), miniatures (players and monsters), and anything else I needed (I can't remember the name of the company now, but there's a company out there that makes styrofoam hexes that you can cut, shape and paint and put together to make dungeons, caverns, etc.). Choosing miniatures was fun because I usually had new ones each time we played and I generally would leave them out for the players to see before the game so that they'd get to "ooo" and "ahh" over what they might run into. But after I got behind my GM screen with my dice and outline, I'd start to weave a story (which usually started with the company in an Inn during a thunderstorm... cheesy, I know, but effective). I found that the more often I did this, the better the stories, the adventures and, thus, the evening was.
I don't know *who* they are, but they're now at the top of my F*ckedCompany list!
He ended up blowing the moon to bits.
Who's been messing with my laser?
At first glance I figured that introducing the kids to robotics would be prohibitively expensive. Who would pay for the materials? The school? In my hometown: "Not bloody likely." However, those Lego Mindstorms are look pretty interesting and aren't that expensive (IMO). Plus, somebody already cracked them so why not delve into how they were made and how they work (after learning how to control them)?
/. readers could expound on whether using Flash in the HSs would be a good idea?
BTW, do HS kids even think Legos (even Mindstorms) are cool? Or would they ever be caught dead with them?
Either way, when I was in HS, I would've killed for something like this.
As for web design, I would have loved to have learned about how to use Macromedia's Flash technology (were it around when I was in HS). Some of the stuff that's out there now is amazing and I know some of it is created by HS kids. Perhaps some of our astute
but "web applications" != "websites". Big difference. Microsoft will dominate the "web application" (applications running in a browser) before anyone realizes what happens. It may not make any sense right now, but it will.
It'll be a serious mistake (IMO) if they leave out the millions of people who make the 'Net go with their personal sites, etc. if something akin to the proposed .NOM or .PER (or whatever it was) doesn't make it to the final list.
.ORG isn't for a personal site. Nor is a .COM or a .NET.
And no,
Big mistake.
I keep hearing more and more from web developers that Microsoft isn't supporting all of the standards and pushing forward with their own (proprietary, at least at the moment) technologies. But folks, you need to start to see the big picture.
First, Microsoft owns the browser market. Owns it. 86% proves that. So they're taking the arrogant position of not working hard enough to implement the standards (although I hear the Mac version of IE does it stunningly well). But guess what, they don't HAVE to (as ugly as that is).
But the point is, there's more to a browser than browsing web pages. In the next versions of Windows (yeah, it's not Linux/BSD/whatever; I hope you're still reading :-), the browser is going to be where you run *all* of your applications. ALL of them. No more Win32 APIs (in the client application, that is; you'll still need them to create Web Services), no fat installations, nothing. Just go to a URL ( anything you need will be set up for you) and voila, you're up and running. That's what part of the .NET strategy is about. MS is leveraging all of the existing code out there (thru XML-compliant SOAP calls) to push themselves towards the end game (where all applications run in the browser; namely their browser). Why do you all think you keep hearing about renting your applications thru ASPs? Because you'll access your applications through your web browser.
That said, MS is innovating in ways that are currently irrelevant to the "web developer" (read: the guys who develop web SITES not web APPLICATIONS). They're bringing along their standards compliance at a slow pace so they CANNOT be accused of doing NOTHING, but (even I admit) they're support is coming along too slowly. Those "colored scroll bars"? Applications, not sites.
In their grand scheme, the standards aren't what's critical to their future. It's the _applications_. Not some clunky little web site. Think "rich, immersive applications." Not anything like we have today and you'll begin to see what's going on in Redmond.
That show simply kicked @$$! In my area it was on for about three weeks until the "new" Voltron came out (the one with the *vehicles* not the *lions*).
Oh, and nobody could lay the smack down like Thundarr! I'm still trying to remember his sidekick's names. There was the wizard and Umlok (?). Dang, what WERE they?!
I thought the same thing. Especially when I read this from another post:
As somebody pointed out a few days ago, shouldn't they be learning valuable research skills by going out and finding these sources on their own?
In this day and age? Opening Google.Com (or your favorite search engine/software) and typing in "nanotech" isn't "valuable research skills". Those skills require a different situation to acquire than writing a paper, surely.
Heck, do libraries still even exist? I haven't been out of my basement for three months (quite literally... almost) to check.
As did I. Some twenty minutes later (don't know what took me so long) I was in my car racing off to Barnes&Noble to pick up the boxed set (The Hobbit plus LOTR).
Just finished The Hobbit and am preparing to tackle the Fellowship of the Ring.
As I was reading The Hobbit, I was noticing so much more detail than I remember from my prior reading (some ten years earlier)... how Bilbo's dwarven companions were in the barrels for two days and escaped being detected three times (initally in the Elvenking's stronghold, again on the river by the elves charged with moving the barrels down the river and when they landed). The detail of Bilbo's interaction with Smaug gave me chills!
Truly this was an excellent work. I look forward to rereading LOTR and even more so to it's theatrical debut!
Perhaps SlashDot needs to think about adding a new feature to the site? I would propose they give each story that appears a particular "type" definition that can be used for "quick searches" or could be used in response to an Ask SlashDot submission. This question could have had the types of "MP3" and "player", for example.
In this case, the question could have still been posted, but the response could have *immediateely* listed 5 or 6 links to stories already submitted on SlashDot about "MP3" and "players". This would still allow for the ability for SlashDotters to talk about the product (even if it is for a second or third time... who doesn't like talking about things several times? Especially when they're cool)? But also gives immediate additional information up front.
*shrug* I think it'd be a nice feature to have.
I'm not sure if the method for posting articles to the front page of SlashDot is a point-and-click operation (I'd assume it was) and if it is, how hard would it be to add this sort of functionality?
[IMO, as long as the same topic isn't posted every two days, I couldn't care less how many times it appears. If I don't want to read it, I won't. But I also won't let it work me up to the point that I'm griping about SlashDot's lack of ability in keeping up with the 1000s of stories they've posted over the years...]
How'd it get it's power?
Just asking. I'm ordering the paperbacks right now so maybe I'll find out. But I don't remember the answer to that from the time I spent reading these in high school (10+ years ago).
who know WAY too much detail about the answer to this question. Is there a Tolkien University out there somewhere I haven't heard of? Or an ICS program?
:-)
I've enjoyed reading these posts... but GEEZ!
But this method wasn't available until now. Communicator 4.7 doesn't support it.
"If you don't have enough time to spend with your children, don't have them . . . it's that simple."
Actually, it's not, but that's not the comment I want to make (nor is SlashDot the place to discuss it).
I'm pro-filter but you make an intersting point about a "children's library". That may be completely impractical for many libraries, but why not a bank of computers that are reserved for children (with filters if the community decides they should be installed) and a bank of computers that are reserved for adults? *My* hometown library wouldn't need to do this (the computers are situated right out in the open) but it may be a good idea for others. Until your comment I hadn't thought about that as a possible solution.
Thanks for your insight.
Tesla is one guy who really got screwed by history. I remember back in the day (OK, early 90s when I was still *listening* to Tesla, the band) doing some research for a college paper on Tesla. He was also the one that pressed for the use of Alternating Current when Edison was pushing for Direct Current. We all know which one is more widely used, but somehow, we all think Edison came up with that idea.
Tesla was, however, very eccentric which didn't help his image any.
Kind of interesting that CT says that they hacked these out a year ago and in the next breathe, seems to whine for a Linux port? Matter of fact, it seems that every time something cool comes out that isn't on Linux yet, there's a whining for someone else to do it? Why don't these guys quit whining and do it themselves?
[Or would that get back to the topic of their hypocrisy when it comes to OSS?]
I would wonder if the OS division would simply begin charging a larger amount for the operating system? As you say, Office is the primary revenue generator. If they're divided into three companies, each will have to keep itself afloat. How does a company do this? It generates revenue. If current levels aren't enough, I can see prices being raised.