As others have pointed out, it is supposed to be a *civil* case, not a criminal one. I have no problems with the MPAA suing the shit outta this guy... I do have a problem with them sending him to jail for what was, until recently, a civil offense, even before the new law went into force. Another problem I have is with '...and studios and cinemas are also investing in metal detectors and night-vision goggles.' Metal detectors to go to the cinema?! Fsck that! That'll give me incentive to stay home and "illegally" watch a DVD (that I bought!) by playing it under Linux. Oh well... What gives a communist (for using open source software) pirate (for "breaking" CSS to play my DVD under Linux) like myself any rights anyhow?
"If a person makes a mistake and learns from it, it's understandable; we're all newbies. The good people never call because they fix their own problems. But if you think dealing with unrelenting and unapologetic (and sometime downright arrogant) stupidity is so easy, I invite you to spend a year doing front-line tech support. There is a reason the attrition rate of tech support is much higher then shit-shoveling."
I've been using computers since '83. I've done it for pay since '91. I've been head bench tech at a PC shop, now tech support manager for an ISP, for the better part of a decade. In that time, I've outlasted pretty much every tech I've met. I was never really a people person before I got into it, but I certainly am now, and the one thing I've learned is that you can never overestimate the stupidity of the human race.
and the bullets are the stupidity of most windows users. No matter how much we tell people "don't open attachments unless you know the person!" they still won't listen.
That's the problem. People need to not open attachments, even if they know who sent them, unless they are expecting them. Take the two recent variants of Beagle (.J and.K)... They come from @ and look official (at least to the untrained eye)... People will either, A) be doing something they shouldn't be online, and think they're busted. Or B) be shocked at being accused of doing something illicit, and attempt to open the attachment to see what in the world they've been accused of. Makes for a fun time in tech support.
"Everyone's discussing it as if it's automatically true."
You mean someone may have posted something to the internet that wasn't true?! Say it isn't so! (it's been a day from hell in tech support. Sorry for the sarcasm.)
"...write a letter to their CEO stating that you are in support of them against the SCO and you exercise your dollars based upon your beliefs (and I don't mean religious). "
An OS choice isn't religious? You weren't around for the Amiga/DOS/Mac flamewares, were you?;)
"Rumor has it he has another book on the way... and one with a movie deal in the works. Maybe they'll pass on Keanu this time and get a real actor and his next book-based movie won't suck so bad."
I actually enjoyed Jonny Mnemonic. I was disappointed that it didn't stick closer to the short story, but I realize why Gibson had to stray from it.
Another story that was adapted was New Rose Hotel. I enjoyed the short story, but the movie (adapted and directed by Abel Ferrara, and starring Christopher Walken and Willem Dafoe) was a bit forgettable. Maybe I was just tired when I watched it, but I had an extremely hard time following it. Maybe, if I can find it again, I'll rent it and give it another chance. Some movies are like that with me (shrug).
I've actually been complaining of relevance of Google's results for awhile now. I always seem to have to wade through three pages of sites trying to sell me %search_item% rather than information about %search_item% but it wasn't always this way. I hope Yahoo doesn't pull a Google and do the same thing. If not, I, for one, welcome our new Yahoo overloards.
"Choose with your wallets if you want to punish MS. It's not like aren't alternatives to everything they make."
The real issue is not that it is bundled in the first place, but that OEMs are typically forced into not using one of the alternatives if they also use MS products. There are ways around this, such as buying all of your MS products grey-market. The problem with this is you then aren't a licensed MS distributor, and each grey-market copy of MS product that you buy costs more than through the MS-approved channels. So, your price is a little higher on the Windows boxes you sell. Also, MS likes to claim that the grey-market copies you bought weren't legit, causing you more headaches. The solution is to force MS to ammend their agreements so that OEMs can bundle whatever they want without having to pay the slightly higher prices of the grey market for all their MS products.
"Let's have some priorities, please. Like our daily SCO story."
Yes. Let's definately make our daily SCO story a higher priority than our daily *IAA story. I'll start suffering withdrawal symptoms if I don't get my dailly SCO fix soon, dammit.
"don't have anything to worry. This will make our country more secure and safer from terrorism. Furthermore all American pariotic parties are joined in this effort to fight terrorism - even Howard Dean is supporting personal identification schemes. And remember we are at war - the war against terrorism. And in a war everybody has do to his share to ensure the victory of the forces of the free world. If that means that I have to give up some privacy, then I'll do my share gladly. At WWII we had to make much larger sacrifices to save the free world and democracy." - Samual Duncan
"He who would give up liberty for security deserves neither." - Ben Franklin
"In case you don't want to RTFA, it all boils down to SCO giving two excuses for not fully complying with the court's order"
Or, more likely, they have no evidence.
"3. Find out how your congressperson voted on this issue"
Did you RTFA? The senate did a "voice vote." What does this mean? There is no fscking record of who voted yay and who voted nay. It may be time to start excercising our second ammendment rights for what they were intended;) Ooops... Now I'm a terrorist... Damn... Gotta hate it when that happens;)
I'd just like to point out that, a) SCO could be lying about the DDoS, and b) if there is, in fact, a DDoS, then where is it written that the person responsible even has to know what Linux is? Just because SCO is being a bunch of asses to the open source community doesn't mean that it's someone from the community doing it. Certainly that individual doesn't represent the community. Just my 4.3 cents (inflation, and all)
I think you're missing the point entirely. Linus is saying that, according to McBride, the GPL is unconstitutional and violates US copyright law. Linux is pointing to the fact that the GPL is in fact coded into current copyright law because the expectation that you will receive the copyright of other work in exchange for your copyright is, in fact, financial incentive according to law. He is simply striking down one of Darl's arguements. Whether Darl's argument was relevant is irrelevant.
As exited as I am to see Internet services such as VoIP become mainstream, part of me still thinks that POTS will still be here for a while.
A couple of things to consider:
- You need broadband and not everybody has it, can get or will ever want it - Cable and DSL (especially cable according ot my own experience) are definitely not as stable as POTS. They are next to useless when power is out unless you AND you proveider have UPS - Emergency services are still an issue with VoIP. I'm expecting the first headline about someone dying because 911 wasn't available on VoIP anytime now. - There is still no end to end QoS on VoIP. Home gateways are still too dumb to prioritize VoIP trafficover your Pr0n traffic.
A couple of points to make:
-Some of us do have broadband, so VoIP is a great alternative to POTS. -I've only had one cable outage. When I first got my cable installed, the ground was frozen so it wasn't buried. My cable ran across the corner of my neighbor's yard. He mowed over it in the spring before the cable company had a chance to come back and bury it. Aside from that, I've had 0 cable outages. A UPS is cheap. I've got one on all critical systems. -911 service is available. It's not the same as 911 from POTS or cellular, but it is available. -Some of the gear available to WISPs offer end-to-end QoS for VoIP. Also, my gateway is a Linux box. It's easy to do bandwidth shaping to prioritize anything going to the IP address of my VoIP box.
Just thought I'd throw these out there, since I've been without a POTS line for about a year since I signed up with Vonage. It's been as reliable as SBC's POTS line was for me.
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The universe is shaped like a funnel, and my desk would seem to be located at the pointy end.
No. The pointy end points at my inbox.
Are we sure this article isn't a couple weeks late?
A little later than that... It's a dupe from August.
As others have pointed out, it is supposed to be a *civil* case, not a criminal one. I have no problems with the MPAA suing the shit outta this guy... I do have a problem with them sending him to jail for what was, until recently, a civil offense, even before the new law went into force. Another problem I have is with '...and studios and cinemas are also investing in metal detectors and night-vision goggles.' Metal detectors to go to the cinema?! Fsck that! That'll give me incentive to stay home and "illegally" watch a DVD (that I bought!) by playing it under Linux. Oh well... What gives a communist (for using open source software) pirate (for "breaking" CSS to play my DVD under Linux) like myself any rights anyhow?
"If a person makes a mistake and learns from it, it's understandable; we're all newbies. The good people never call because they fix their own problems. But if you think dealing with unrelenting and unapologetic (and sometime downright arrogant) stupidity is so easy, I invite you to spend a year doing front-line tech support. There is a reason the attrition rate of tech support is much higher then shit-shoveling."
I've been using computers since '83. I've done it for pay since '91. I've been head bench tech at a PC shop, now tech support manager for an ISP, for the better part of a decade. In that time, I've outlasted pretty much every tech I've met. I was never really a people person before I got into it, but I certainly am now, and the one thing I've learned is that you can never overestimate the stupidity of the human race.
"And this is almost news..."
Almost news for almost nerds. Stuff that almost matters???
"Let's just all pray the military dosn't call this SKYNET."
;)
Nah. They were at least someone original. They decided to call it netsky
and the bullets are the stupidity of most windows users. No matter how much we tell people "don't open attachments unless you know the person!" they still won't listen.
.K)... They come from @ and look official (at least to the untrained eye)... People will either, A) be doing something they shouldn't be online, and think they're busted. Or B) be shocked at being accused of doing something illicit, and attempt to open the attachment to see what in the world they've been accused of. Makes for a fun time in tech support.
That's the problem. People need to not open attachments, even if they know who sent them, unless they are expecting them. Take the two recent variants of Beagle (.J and
"Everyone's discussing it as if it's automatically true."
You mean someone may have posted something to the internet that wasn't true?! Say it isn't so! (it's been a day from hell in tech support. Sorry for the sarcasm.)
"...write a letter to their CEO stating that you are in support of them against the SCO and you exercise your dollars based upon your beliefs (and I don't mean religious). "
;)
An OS choice isn't religious? You weren't around for the Amiga/DOS/Mac flamewares, were you?
"remember that plaintiffs have to already have evidence of wrongdoing to sue, they cannot simply go discovery-fishing for it"
And yet, this is exactly what they've attempted in the IBM case. Does anyone believe they won't try to do the same thing in this case?
"Seriously, wonder what SCO will do if Samba and the other well known projects follow suit? "
The answer is obvious. If anyone follow suit, then SCO will file suit, and only the suits win.
"Since when did Microsoft hire the Iraqi Information Minister? "
;)
We finally see what "IP" Microsoft lisenced from SCO. I didn't know crack counted as IP, though
"Rumor has it he has another book on the way... and one with a movie deal in the works. Maybe they'll pass on Keanu this time and get a real actor and his next book-based movie won't suck so bad."
I actually enjoyed Jonny Mnemonic. I was disappointed that it didn't stick closer to the short story, but I realize why Gibson had to stray from it.
Another story that was adapted was New Rose Hotel. I enjoyed the short story, but the movie (adapted and directed by Abel Ferrara, and starring Christopher Walken and Willem Dafoe) was a bit forgettable. Maybe I was just tired when I watched it, but I had an extremely hard time following it. Maybe, if I can find it again, I'll rent it and give it another chance. Some movies are like that with me (shrug).
I've actually been complaining of relevance of Google's results for awhile now. I always seem to have to wade through three pages of sites trying to sell me %search_item% rather than information about %search_item% but it wasn't always this way. I hope Yahoo doesn't pull a Google and do the same thing. If not, I, for one, welcome our new Yahoo overloards.
"Choose with your wallets if you want to punish MS. It's not like aren't alternatives to everything they make."
The real issue is not that it is bundled in the first place, but that OEMs are typically forced into not using one of the alternatives if they also use MS products. There are ways around this, such as buying all of your MS products grey-market. The problem with this is you then aren't a licensed MS distributor, and each grey-market copy of MS product that you buy costs more than through the MS-approved channels. So, your price is a little higher on the Windows boxes you sell. Also, MS likes to claim that the grey-market copies you bought weren't legit, causing you more headaches. The solution is to force MS to ammend their agreements so that OEMs can bundle whatever they want without having to pay the slightly higher prices of the grey market for all their MS products.
"Let's have some priorities, please. Like our daily SCO story."
Yes. Let's definately make our daily SCO story a higher priority than our daily *IAA story. I'll start suffering withdrawal symptoms if I don't get my dailly SCO fix soon, dammit.
"don't have anything to worry.
This will make our country more secure and safer from terrorism.
Furthermore all American pariotic parties are joined in this effort to fight terrorism - even Howard Dean is supporting personal identification schemes.
And remember we are at war - the war against terrorism. And in a war everybody has do to his share to ensure the victory of the forces of the free world. If that means that I have to give up some privacy, then I'll do my share gladly.
At WWII we had to make much larger sacrifices to save the free world and democracy." - Samual Duncan
"He who would give up liberty for security deserves neither." - Ben Franklin
"Someone needs to take both SCO and the virus author out of the playground and give them a good spanking."
Now that is some imagery I just didn't need!
"Well maybe they didn't write it, but Im sure there is some SCO code in it."
It's a derivative work of System V!
"In case you don't want to RTFA, it all boils down to SCO giving two excuses for not fully complying with the court's order" Or, more likely, they have no evidence.
"3. Find out how your congressperson voted on this issue"
;) Ooops... Now I'm a terrorist... Damn... Gotta hate it when that happens ;)
Did you RTFA? The senate did a "voice vote." What does this mean? There is no fscking record of who voted yay and who voted nay. It may be time to start excercising our second ammendment rights for what they were intended
Suing fiber optic manufacturers misses the point.
What does fiber optic cable transmit? Light. And who is responsible for light?
"And God said, Let there be light; and there was light (Genesis 1:3)."
-kgj
But the RIAA cannot use that tactic, as SCO already has a patent on the process of suing God.
I'd just like to point out that, a) SCO could be lying about the DDoS, and b) if there is, in fact, a DDoS, then where is it written that the person responsible even has to know what Linux is? Just because SCO is being a bunch of asses to the open source community doesn't mean that it's someone from the community doing it. Certainly that individual doesn't represent the community. Just my 4.3 cents (inflation, and all)
I think you're missing the point entirely. Linus is saying that, according to McBride, the GPL is unconstitutional and violates US copyright law. Linux is pointing to the fact that the GPL is in fact coded into current copyright law because the expectation that you will receive the copyright of other work in exchange for your copyright is, in fact, financial incentive according to law. He is simply striking down one of Darl's arguements. Whether Darl's argument was relevant is irrelevant.
As exited as I am to see Internet services such as VoIP become mainstream, part of me still thinks that POTS will still be here for a while.
A couple of things to consider:
- You need broadband and not everybody has it, can get or will ever want it
- Cable and DSL (especially cable according ot my own experience) are definitely not as stable as POTS. They are next to useless when power is out unless you AND you proveider have UPS
- Emergency services are still an issue with VoIP. I'm expecting the first headline about someone dying because 911 wasn't available on VoIP anytime now.
- There is still no end to end QoS on VoIP. Home gateways are still too dumb to prioritize VoIP trafficover your Pr0n traffic.
A couple of points to make:
-Some of us do have broadband, so VoIP is a great alternative to POTS.
-I've only had one cable outage. When I first got my cable installed, the ground was frozen so it wasn't buried. My cable ran across the corner of my neighbor's yard. He mowed over it in the spring before the cable company had a chance to come back and bury it. Aside from that, I've had 0 cable outages. A UPS is cheap. I've got one on all critical systems.
-911 service is available. It's not the same as 911 from POTS or cellular, but it is available.
-Some of the gear available to WISPs offer end-to-end QoS for VoIP. Also, my gateway is a Linux box. It's easy to do bandwidth shaping to prioritize anything going to the IP address of my VoIP box.
Just thought I'd throw these out there, since I've been without a POTS line for about a year since I signed up with Vonage. It's been as reliable as SBC's POTS line was for me.