How the fuck is this funny?!? It's 100 % accurate, not "funny". You probably got modded "funny" by our resident MSFT astroturfers... oh, and Darl McBride can bite my shiny metal ass.
Also, in other news, the saltydog, aka saltydogmn, has no immediate plans to ever spend another dime on Microsoft products, ever again.
First, thank you for your well thought out reply. I couldn't have said it better myself.
I would like to add that I wish that IBM would somehow subpoena the IPs and records from the SCOX Yahoo board, to expose the SCO Group corporate executives that were caught red-handed posting on their own company message board, pumping their own stock, and, in several cases, bragging about their "1300% return" on their initial investment. When quizzed about it by SLC Tribune writer Bob Mims, they flatly denied it, but further research proved that at least 3 Yahoo nyms that conversed to each other, were all created out of the same parent account - anmcbride; Darl's wife is Andrea McBride. This alone means nothing, until you find that a Google search of the nym with a Yahoo.com address showed the same address used as the primary contact for Darl and Andrea, for Darl's son on a local youth baseball team. (The page, and subsequent Google cache have been removed, but many copies were made at the time of the discovery.)
Furthermore, one of the lawyers that was said to have assisted with a mock trial at the initial stages of this stock scam, was also furiously pumping this stock on the Yahoo board - his nym was ledite, which is Italian for "injured party"; he, or someone who works for/with him, is quoted quite often in early SCO Group news items, as a primary partner in a well-known Silicon Valley IP law firm. If the SEC found out who HE was, there would be hell to pay, and his firm would be disbarred. I would bet they wouldn't want that to happen.
Don't you want yours, then? I could use a couple more, you know...
Fuck you, Darl; depose me, you insufferable prick!
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No, I'm not an IBM shill; no, I don't get paid to bash you; no, I have never met PJ; but I still hate you and everything this FUD/stock scam stands for.
Drop a line to Cowboy Neal, and have him set up the deposition. It would make as much sense as deposing PJ, or Esker Melchoir, for that matter.
I will not rest until each and every one of the perpetrators of this criminal extortion attempt is out of the IT industry, and behind bars. Yes, Ralph, that includes you.
Back in the day, I used to hang out at a place in Maplewood, MN called The Hideaway (also known as M.T. Pockets); it was a sort of funk/rock honky-tonk; good sized, lots of fun, but pretty much a dump. Anyway, one particular night, early in the festivities they played the Electric Slide, and the floor was filled with larger-type women. I made a reference that the promotion for the evening must have been "Jenny Craig Night"... as the music started, one of my friends asked if that was that new song, the Electric Slide, and I replied, totally deadpan, no, with all that weight on the floor, it would have to be The Hydraulic Slide.
Why doesn't Dan "Lyin'" Lyons just ask the question on his OWN damned anti-Linux bash-fest troll blog, instead of wasting his time posting here?
(Not that it really IS a statement from old Danny boy, but it sounds exactly like him, complete with false analogies and strawmen galore... I guess for guys like him, and Rob "Rent-a-rant" Enderle, when you've been suckling at the withered teat of Microsoft for most of your life, it's difficult to learn any other way to survive.)
Instead of sarcasm, let's try this real world scenario;
If your company was foolish enough to pay for Software Assurance, "assuring" you of free OS upgrades for anything MSFT produced for the next 3 years, instead of even buying retail boxed copies of XP Pro, you would have been paying Mr. Gates 3 years for the privilege of renting XP Pro, and paying an additional 27 months of rent, for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
That's why this is a big deal.
(Besides, with all the features they have already ripped out of Vista, in reality you're going to be paying full price - and then some - for what amounts to Windows XP Service Pack 3. Sorry, this is not acceptable.)
Meanwhile, I'll get my Software Assurance from the Ubuntu community; it's better for me, and it's free.
...the fiasco with the Yahoo Message Boards, it will be a resounding fuck up.
They took what was (for those of us *still* following the SCO Group stock scam/FUD campaign/pump and dump fraud) the best venue for discussing the evidence presented by IBM and Novell, the utter and complete lack of any evidence presented by SCOX, and the discovery of even more evidence of Caldera knowing they didn't have shit to go on. Now, it's a mere shadow of what it once was, and it's overrun by worthless trolls and SCOX apologists. What used to be a place where the fantastic researchers would shine their 10 million candlepower spotlights on miserable fat Belgian bastards, inventors with vaporware operating systems, other "inventors" with bad haircuts and no sense of humor, hack wannabe code monkeys suckling at the teat of MSFT largesse, or rhodium miners with a penchant for hallucinogens, it is now just a cold, dank, murky underworld. The place to be for financial discussions is NOT Yahoo Finance. InvestorVillage has filled in quite nicely, BTW. As far as I'm concerned, Yahoo is run by yahoos.
...to pay for all that lobbying they had to do to keep competition out. (Not to mention hookers and blow for their victory parties.)Those bastards at Comcast will never get another dime from me. In less than 10 months, I was expected to take a 57% price increase, which included a $15.00/month penalty for NOT taking any additional services, when they bought out AT&T Broadband. They called it bundled pricing. I called it predatory pricing. It was actually a DirecTV penalty. I still have them, and I get by with 256k Qwest DSL.
"But I do know a few "hicks" who take owning their own home very seriously."
I suppose being in a suburb of St. Paul, MN, doesn't qualify me as a "hick", but I'm right there with you on that one. They want my house? They'll get my 9mm bullets first; call it "high velocity lead poisoning".
Tell us what in Linux "includes intellectual property it shouldn't", where THE SCO GROUP is the copyright holder of that IP, the transfer documents, approved by the court, that show the explicit transfer of that IP to THE SCO GROUP, and then tell us when all the other Linux distributions will be sued for the same IP violations.
Fucking evil bastard assholes; that's all The SCO Group is now. I absolutely cannot wait until they are crushed into the ground.
Contrast that to the numerous statements to the press over the past two years...
(Courtesy of the quote database at Groklaw) - SCO was able to uncover the alleged violations by hiring three teams of experts, including a group from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology math department, to analyze the Linux and Unix source code for similarities. "All three found several instances where our Unix source code had been found in Linux," said an SCO spokesman.-- SCO PR, 2003-06-10
- "We've been looking at this for months. Every time we turn over a stone, there's something there," McBride said. "If you pull down (Mac) OS X you'll see a lot of copyright postings that point back to Unix Systems Laboratories, which is what we hold."... "Instead of going after people, we're giving people a chance to license," McBride said. Customers with numerous servers will receive discounts, he added.-- Darl McBride, 2003-01-22 - The Linux community on these message boards will get very vocal, many times without even understanding what the underlying issues are. So it's a little bit like being Shaquille O'Neil and driving home from the game that night and listening to the call in show. It can drive you crazy if you listen to every fan that calls in or non-fan. And these chat boards can drive you crazy if you try and follow the logic, or lack thereof that goes on on some of these boards. So I believe what we have to stay focused on is what is the right thing and stay focused on what is the right thing at an industry level and what is the right thing at a customer and industry partner level, and, in the end, try to apply some leadership to the equation to problem to help resolve things.-- Darl McBride, 2003-05-16 - (My comment on that last one; I'm saltydogmn on the Yahoo SCOX board. Fuck you, Darl, you worthless piece of shit asshole motherfucker.) - And during the period of time shortly after filing the lawsuit until recently when they came back and responded, we had a 60 day period there where we turned 3 different teams of code programmers loose on the codebases of AIX, Unix and Linux. And they came back with - independently - we had the three teams - one was a set of high-end mathematcians, rocket scientist, modeling type guys. Another team was based on standard programmer types. A third team were really spiffy on agent technology and how all of this technology was built in the first place. So the three teams came back independently and validated that there wasn't just a little bit of code showing up inside of Linux from our Unix intellectual property base. There was actually a mountain of code showing up in there.-- Darl McBride, 2003-07-21 - [English: Replacing the illegal code seems unimaginable, even if we would be the first to approve such a solution. But we're talking about millions of lines of code and not a few dozen. On top of that, the pieces that were taken are precisely what makes Linux a viable solution for enterprise deployment, like SMP and NUMA. We therefore invite enterprise users to properly license Linux by purchasing our run-time-only Linux license or downgrading to a version of Linux prior to 2.4, which will probably be enough for some companies.]-- Darl McBride, 2003-10-22
In other words, they are full of shit, and should be put in prison for fraud. Period.
Calling these FUD-monkey shills "news sources" is like calling the Iraq Info Minister a "news source". O'Gara is as reliable as Microsoft wants her to be, which is not at all. She's no better than Didio, Enderle, and the stock pumpers on the various message boards. These people make me sick, and I cannot wait for the day when their masters get thrown in the clink for this blatant fraud. P.S. If you're reading this, or (more likely) having someone else read it to you, Biffy or Luddite, go fuck yourselves, biotch.
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...with a handheld camcorder, and right in the middle, send in campus police, and have him/her "arrested".
:-)
Discuss.
That should make for some interesting commentary...
"I really hate it when I see people using the legal system to extort money rather than to get what they actually have a right to under the law."
Mr. McBride, is that you? Say hi to Ralph for me!
How the fuck is this funny?!? It's 100 % accurate, not "funny".
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You probably got modded "funny" by our resident MSFT astroturfers... oh, and Darl McBride can bite my shiny metal ass.
Also, in other news, the saltydog, aka saltydogmn, has no immediate plans to ever spend another dime on Microsoft products, ever again.
I wrote a small blurb here; http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=1911&m
First, thank you for your well thought out reply. I couldn't have said it better myself.
I would like to add that I wish that IBM would somehow subpoena the IPs and records from the SCOX Yahoo board, to expose the SCO Group corporate executives that were caught red-handed posting on their own company message board, pumping their own stock, and, in several cases, bragging about their "1300% return" on their initial investment. When quizzed about it by SLC Tribune writer Bob Mims, they flatly denied it, but further research proved that at least 3 Yahoo nyms that conversed to each other, were all created out of the same parent account - anmcbride; Darl's wife is Andrea McBride. This alone means nothing, until you find that a Google search of the nym with a Yahoo.com address showed the same address used as the primary contact for Darl and Andrea, for Darl's son on a local youth baseball team. (The page, and subsequent Google cache have been removed, but many copies were made at the time of the discovery.)
Furthermore, one of the lawyers that was said to have assisted with a mock trial at the initial stages of this stock scam, was also furiously pumping this stock on the Yahoo board - his nym was ledite, which is Italian for "injured party"; he, or someone who works for/with him, is quoted quite often in early SCO Group news items, as a primary partner in a well-known Silicon Valley IP law firm. If the SEC found out who HE was, there would be hell to pay, and his firm would be disbarred.
I would bet they wouldn't want that to happen.
I think it would be even better to point it to groklaw.net...
Just the thought of that would give Darl heartburn.
Don't you want yours, then?
I could use a couple more, you know...
No, I'm not an IBM shill;
no, I don't get paid to bash you;
no, I have never met PJ;
but I still hate you and everything this FUD/stock scam stands for.
Drop a line to Cowboy Neal, and have him set up the deposition.
It would make as much sense as deposing PJ, or Esker Melchoir, for that matter.
I will not rest until each and every one of the perpetrators of this criminal extortion attempt is out of the IT industry, and behind bars. Yes, Ralph, that includes you.
"People are fed up with rotating media."
I find that the only way to enjoy the music, *is* by rotating the media.
Hell, if you stop that, I can't even use my CD's as Frisbees!
Perhaps this is one of the jets HP ordered for Ms. Fiorina, before she got the boot.
I didn't realize Gulfstream took so long to build their products. Maybe they can sell it to the King of Spain instead.
Back in the day, I used to hang out at a place in Maplewood, MN called The Hideaway (also known as M.T. Pockets); it was a sort of funk/rock honky-tonk; good sized, lots of fun, but pretty much a dump. Anyway, one particular night, early in the festivities they played the Electric Slide, and the floor was filled with larger-type women. I made a reference that the promotion for the evening must have been "Jenny Craig Night"... as the music started, one of my friends asked if that was that new song, the Electric Slide, and I replied, totally deadpan, no, with all that weight on the floor, it would have to be The Hydraulic Slide.
Good times, good times...
Why doesn't Dan "Lyin'" Lyons just ask the question on his OWN damned anti-Linux bash-fest troll blog, instead of wasting his time posting here?
(Not that it really IS a statement from old Danny boy, but it sounds exactly like him, complete with false analogies and strawmen galore... I guess for guys like him, and Rob "Rent-a-rant" Enderle, when you've been suckling at the withered teat of Microsoft for most of your life, it's difficult to learn any other way to survive.)
Instead of sarcasm, let's try this real world scenario;
If your company was foolish enough to pay for Software Assurance, "assuring" you of free OS upgrades for anything MSFT produced for the next 3 years, instead of even buying retail boxed copies of XP Pro, you would have been paying Mr. Gates 3 years for the privilege of renting XP Pro, and paying an additional 27 months of rent, for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
That's why this is a big deal.
(Besides, with all the features they have already ripped out of Vista, in reality you're going to be paying full price - and then some - for what amounts to Windows XP Service Pack 3. Sorry, this is not acceptable.)
Meanwhile, I'll get my Software Assurance from the Ubuntu community; it's better for me, and it's free.
...the fiasco with the Yahoo Message Boards, it will be a resounding fuck up.
They took what was (for those of us *still* following the SCO Group stock scam/FUD campaign/pump and dump fraud) the best venue for discussing the evidence presented by IBM and Novell, the utter and complete lack of any evidence presented by SCOX, and the discovery of even more evidence of Caldera knowing they didn't have shit to go on. Now, it's a mere shadow of what it once was, and it's overrun by worthless trolls and SCOX apologists. What used to be a place where the fantastic researchers would shine their 10 million candlepower spotlights on miserable fat Belgian bastards, inventors with vaporware operating systems, other "inventors" with bad haircuts and no sense of humor, hack wannabe code monkeys suckling at the teat of MSFT largesse, or rhodium miners with a penchant for hallucinogens, it is now just a cold, dank, murky underworld. The place to be for financial discussions is NOT Yahoo Finance. InvestorVillage has filled in quite nicely, BTW. As far as I'm concerned, Yahoo is run by yahoos.
Wow - when they hear about this, those German anti-GPL netkooks are going to be pissed.
(Hi, Alex!)
(Oh, and if you actually get to read this, Alex, go fuck yourself. Sincerely, The World.)
Oh, the horrors...
Buy a console from an unrepentant, convicted monopolist,
or buy one from an unrepentant spyware vendor.
Fuck that - I'm going to the bar and play Big Buck Hunter 2006.
The bastard ruined the Minnesota Vikings for YEARS with that damned Herschel Walker trade!
...to pay for all that lobbying they had to do to keep competition out. (Not to mention hookers and blow for their victory parties.)Those bastards at Comcast will never get another dime from me. In less than 10 months, I was expected to take a 57% price increase, which included a $15.00/month penalty for NOT taking any additional services, when they bought out AT&T Broadband. They called it bundled pricing. I called it predatory pricing. It was actually a DirecTV penalty. I still have them, and I get by with 256k Qwest DSL.
"But I do know a few "hicks" who take owning their own home very seriously."
I suppose being in a suburb of St. Paul, MN, doesn't qualify me as a "hick", but I'm right there with you on that one. They want my house? They'll get my 9mm bullets first; call it "high velocity lead poisoning".
Tell us what in Linux "includes intellectual property it shouldn't", where THE SCO GROUP is the copyright holder of that IP, the transfer documents, approved by the court, that show the explicit transfer of that IP to THE SCO GROUP, and then tell us when all the other Linux distributions will be sued for the same IP violations.
Fucking evil bastard assholes; that's all The SCO Group is now. I absolutely cannot wait until they are crushed into the ground.
It's Didiot.
I'm sure to get a story posted on /. in no time - just submit a dupe!
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BRILLIANT!
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"...read all of TSG's regulatory filings..."
... "Instead of going after people, we're giving people a chance to license," McBride said. Customers with numerous servers will receive discounts, he added.-- Darl McBride, 2003-01-22
Contrast that to the numerous statements to the press over the past two years...
(Courtesy of the quote database at Groklaw)
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SCO was able to uncover the alleged violations by hiring three teams of experts, including a group from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology math department, to analyze the Linux and Unix source code for similarities. "All three found several instances where our Unix source code had been found in Linux," said an SCO spokesman.-- SCO PR, 2003-06-10
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"We've been looking at this for months. Every time we turn over a stone, there's something there," McBride said. "If you pull down (Mac) OS X you'll see a lot of copyright postings that point back to Unix Systems Laboratories, which is what we hold."
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The Linux community on these message boards will get very vocal, many times without even understanding what the underlying issues are. So it's a little bit like being Shaquille O'Neil and driving home from the game that night and listening to the call in show. It can drive you crazy if you listen to every fan that calls in or non-fan. And these chat boards can drive you crazy if you try and follow the logic, or lack thereof that goes on on some of these boards. So I believe what we have to stay focused on is what is the right thing and stay focused on what is the right thing at an industry level and what is the right thing at a customer and industry partner level, and, in the end, try to apply some leadership to the equation to problem to help resolve things.-- Darl McBride, 2003-05-16
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(My comment on that last one; I'm saltydogmn on the Yahoo SCOX board. Fuck you, Darl, you worthless piece of shit asshole motherfucker.)
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And during the period of time shortly after filing the lawsuit until recently when they came back and responded, we had a 60 day period there where we turned 3 different teams of code programmers loose on the codebases of AIX, Unix and Linux. And they came back with - independently - we had the three teams - one was a set of high-end mathematcians, rocket scientist, modeling type guys. Another team was based on standard programmer types. A third team were really spiffy on agent technology and how all of this technology was built in the first place. So the three teams came back independently and validated that there wasn't just a little bit of code showing up inside of Linux from our Unix intellectual property base. There was actually a mountain of code showing up in there.-- Darl McBride, 2003-07-21
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[English: Replacing the illegal code seems unimaginable, even if we would be the first to approve such a solution. But we're talking about millions of lines of code and not a few dozen. On top of that, the pieces that were taken are precisely what makes Linux a viable solution for enterprise deployment, like SMP and NUMA. We therefore invite enterprise users to properly license Linux by purchasing our run-time-only Linux license or downgrading to a version of Linux prior to 2.4, which will probably be enough for some companies.]-- Darl McBride, 2003-10-22
In other words, they are full of shit, and should be put in prison for fraud. Period.
Calling these FUD-monkey shills "news sources" is like calling the Iraq Info Minister a "news source". O'Gara is as reliable as Microsoft wants her to be, which is not at all. She's no better than Didio, Enderle, and the stock pumpers on the various message boards. These people make me sick, and I cannot wait for the day when their masters get thrown in the clink for this blatant fraud.
P.S. If you're reading this, or (more likely) having someone else read it to you, Biffy or Luddite, go fuck yourselves, biotch.
They would corner the market on Unix, Linux, AND IBM's magic server pixie dust! (Oh, and self-important criminal assholes, too; hi, Darl!)
Then the industry will cry fowl...
Let's leave the ducks out of this, shall we?