I don't have television service anymore, I just download the weekly episodes of all the shows I watch...usually in HDTV (Some even in 1080i*drool*), which I wouldn't have gotten even WITH my cable service, and I STILL don't buy any of the shit in the commercials that would have otherwise accompanied the shows. Boo-fragging-hoo.
I don't really see the point of crying about people downloading shows that are on BROADCAST TELEVISION. (Or people removing commercials, as I'm betting the two issues very closely related in the minds of the TV execs) Cable, okay...maybe...premium...yeah, I understand that... But BROADCAST? And no, they aren't going to lose DVD sales. The people who would keep vidcaps in lieu of official DVDs when they come out, probably wouldn't have bought the DVDs in the first place. They're merely upgrading from the use of a hojillion VHS tapes.
One of my major addictions is West Wing... I've actually made custom season 5 DVDs from high-quality SVCDs I got off usenet, so I can watch them along with all my retail WW DVDs... And you can bet your ass I'll STILL buy the retails when they come out.
(I will however concede that of all the shows I watch, West Wing has the lowest-priced boxsets at around $30-40 a season, CSI gets excessive at $60-70)
This habit of mine (Downloading shows instead of watching TV) evolved from my downloading raw vidcaps of the latest anime, every week. With so little on US television that interests me, it's a no-brainer. (And btw, despite my strong feelings concerning dubs and poor translations, I STILL buy my US-licensed anime DVDs too. Feel free to cite me whenever you need to debunk someone's BS piracy argument.;P)
Anyway, my point is... What exactly are they afraid of? Loss of DVD sales? Hardly. Anyone who's a fan of the show will buy the DVDs just for the extras, if nothing else. Lost commercial revenue? That's FAR more likely.
Maybe if they made commercials that didn't make me want to destroy all life on the planet, that'd almost be a valid argument... As it is I have half a dozen remotes that have b0rked mute buttons (Actually wore the traces and pads right off the board!), from having to mute every commercial break to avoid being aurally assaulted by braindead shit aimed at the lowest common denominator. (Usually at much higher volumes than what you're watching)
Gee, think maybe THAT'S why people remove commercials? Because they suck? Because they're annoying? You mean there's not some deep, dark, criminal motive behind it? OH-FSCKING-NOES MR. TV EXEC! YOUR WORLD IS ENDING!!
I OWN THE FIREFLY BOX SET, AND ALL TV COMPANY EXECS CAN BURN IN HELL!
(You'll have to excuse that last part, the caffeine is kicking in.)
Last year I bought a LiteON LVD-2002 DVD player, it plays DVDs, SVCDs, VCDs, as well as AVI's (XviD/DivX), MP3s, mpeg1 files, and even jpeg slideshows off either CDs or DVDs. It even has progressive scan and component video outputs... Only set me back $120.
It'd be nice to have some of the features of this machine though, like WMV9 playback, and network access... But I'm already planning to build a MythTV box to serve a DLP projector-based Home Theater system, so it's all good. ^_^
This should keep those kids from buying their violent video games!
Hell, I'm 23 and -I- don't even have a picture ID. And what is this going to solve, anyway? You think some kid who wants to buy the new GTA is going to go "Aww shucks! I can't buy violent video games anymore! I guess I'll go play stickball with my friends..."? Right. <sarcasm>Because we all know his parents didn't buy him a DVD burner last xmas...and there's no way he has usenet access.....</sarcasm>
What kid is going to be all broken up about not being able to spend money on something they're now forced to get for free?
I nominate this idiotic initiative as the scapegoat, for when all the game companies come looking for the money lost to the steep increase in piracy.
People would rather force kids to STEAL video games, than to trust that they know right from wrong on their own? Granted, some don't. Some adults don't either. Crazy is crazy, and stupid is stupid, no matter what age you are. </rant>
(Oh yeah, and this is assuming the kids don't just order the game online...)
I'd have to agree, even if I'm talking in caps for short periods, I do it by holding down the L-Shift with my left pinky... Yelling at people with the caps lock is too easy;P
"...toiling away on cels..." Please. There's a REASON you can't make any money doing that anymore. Most anime is digitally animated. Sure, maybe most of the lineart is hand drawn, but then it goes into the computer, gets digitally 'inked' then colored... Hell, most anime these days contain insane amounts of CG (Most of which, contrary to the popular response of "Pfft....cg" YOU CAN NOT TELL IS CG.) I mean...damn. Something on the order of 1 out of 5 currently running shows is animated by Gonzo|Digimation anyway....
An 'announcement' of the merger is kinda ridiculously late....considering there's been G4 programming on TechTV all day today. Stupid digital cable listings don't reflect the change...so I have no idea what these shows are... (Not having seen any G4 programming before today.)
'never produced an operational helicopter'? I suppose the commanche helicopters I keep seeing on the Discovery Wings channel are CG'd in during post, eh?
I don't get it...It seems like a hella nice piece of gear...why scrap it? We got better ideas in the works? Why not stick with the one we've invested several BILLION dollars in?
No offense to the Maya users in the crowd....but Newtek themselves could buy it, and I'd still prefer Lightwave. There's something to be said for the same amount of power, available through an interface you don't NEED to train on. ^_^
So what exactly are we talking about here? G-Saviour, but with better special effects? (God...that movie was SO BAD...Even the so-so CG Gundams didn't make up for how completely BAD it was....) "Best low-budget, Canadian, B-movie, with a cast consisting of bad anime dub actors, EVER MADE!"
I atleast had hopes that the NGE movie would be cool to watch.....but I don't think I'll get past the names....not that they changed them...but the names are just STUPID.
I'd say it's a mix of most television content these days being total CRAP and the fact that alot of good games are coming out right now. *Goes back to playing Final Fantasy XI*
Your average moron spammer usually botnet floods a channel with spam......ever try to kick a couple dozen bots? It's no fun, and closing down the channel until the kiddies go away is no fun either.
Okay, we ALL know games can't be blamed for violence...I mean come ON. But if this game is anything like those web-based spammer games like lords of chaos and pornstarguru or outwar or any of that other crap you get spammed with on irc, I feel it's an appropriate thing to go after.....I've actually been party to entire irc channels being taken out because someone from that channel ignored common courtesy and mass spammed one of those games....
They're probably one of the worst things on the net, right up there with search results that if you're not paying attention to what the page summary says, floods your screen with 10^5 porn popups, half of which are impossible to close (Thanks Microsoft....);P
They serve no purpose whatsoever, and do nothing but encourage spam and poor behavior. I don't even see how these games could be FUN anyway, just going around pissing people off who will NEVER CLICK YOUR LINK ANYWAY, just to build up some 'army' that is supposed to win you some non-existent prize...
GI Joe used to be so damn cool when I was a kid....so when I heard it was going to be on Cartoon Network I had to see it......first time it's on I'm like "wtf is this sh**??" And turned it right the hell off....
The only thing that ruins our 'childhood memories' is knowing better now:P
I have one of these in my new workstation that I built a month ago (as well as their Creative Inspire 6600 6.1 speakers), all I can say is that it's a great piece of hardware:)
The 'Audigy drive' you get with the Platinum is great too (I own an Audigy Platinum as well, so I knew what I needed.) It gives me a great place to plug in headphones complete with independant volume control. And it even has TOSLink optical out for my MD player:)
Yeah, this didn't sound right to me either, I thought the SNES addon CDrom that turned into the PSX was called 'Project Reality' or something (I could be wrong, I think they called the N64 that too....)
Well, with CN running more mature stuff in Adult Swim, you think they could maybe...I dunno...possibly do away with the friggin toy commercials during it??:E
I mean, I'm sitting there watching Mobile Suit Gundam, with the volume up and suddenly there's some damn Barbie commercial! (Much louder than what I was watching, I might add.)
Commercials are bad enough these days (They're why the Mute button on my remote no longer works), but these toy commercials make me question the future of the species.
I hope they give it a new timeslot, one that people are likely to be able to SEE it in. Of all the people I know, I'm the only one who manages to catch it AT ALL. If given a good timeslot, it should get alot more viewership.... It'd be nice if they gave it the chance, because it's a great show:)
The majority of that 'neat picture' was built from models and textures that come with Lightwave 3D;) As a matter of fact, the solar arrays (among other things) are re-textured versions of the ones used on the model of the Goddard space station from the first episode of Space: Above and Beyond.
Probably the most useless information to be uttered in this thread... But hey, it's what I do.:)
Like many others reading this thread, I too find it hard to see how this could possibly hurt the game in any way (I can tell you, it ensured that I'LL be in line for a copy, or two.), I can understand your being upset with those who leaked it, but people have been waiting for something, anything, substantial about this game. Unless you were AT E3, about the best you could do was that ATI promo vid for the radeon 9700, and it only had a few seconds of footage. Unfortunately, 'something substantial' came from someone else before it came officially from id.
I must say however, even in it's earliest stages of development this is the coolest (Not to mention graphically amazing) thing I've ever seen, and it's going to blow away every other game out there come release day.
Keep up the good work, and try not to dwell on this little incident too much. Hell, it's not like many of us even have systems that CAN play it.;)
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The French government versus Electronic Arts? I give them three days before the white flags come out. :)
I don't have television service anymore, I just download the weekly episodes of all the shows I watch...usually in HDTV (Some even in 1080i*drool*), which I wouldn't have gotten even WITH my cable service, and I STILL don't buy any of the shit in the commercials that would have otherwise accompanied the shows. Boo-fragging-hoo.
;P)
I don't really see the point of crying about people downloading shows that are on BROADCAST TELEVISION. (Or people removing commercials, as I'm betting the two issues very closely related in the minds of the TV execs) Cable, okay...maybe...premium...yeah, I understand that... But BROADCAST? And no, they aren't going to lose DVD sales. The people who would keep vidcaps in lieu of official DVDs when they come out, probably wouldn't have bought the DVDs in the first place. They're merely upgrading from the use of a hojillion VHS tapes.
One of my major addictions is West Wing... I've actually made custom season 5 DVDs from high-quality SVCDs I got off usenet, so I can watch them along with all my retail WW DVDs... And you can bet your ass I'll STILL buy the retails when they come out.
(I will however concede that of all the shows I watch, West Wing has the lowest-priced boxsets at around $30-40 a season, CSI gets excessive at $60-70)
This habit of mine (Downloading shows instead of watching TV) evolved from my downloading raw vidcaps of the latest anime, every week. With so little on US television that interests me, it's a no-brainer. (And btw, despite my strong feelings concerning dubs and poor translations, I STILL buy my US-licensed anime DVDs too. Feel free to cite me whenever you need to debunk someone's BS piracy argument.
Anyway, my point is... What exactly are they afraid of? Loss of DVD sales? Hardly. Anyone who's a fan of the show will buy the DVDs just for the extras, if nothing else. Lost commercial revenue? That's FAR more likely.
Maybe if they made commercials that didn't make me want to destroy all life on the planet, that'd almost be a valid argument... As it is I have half a dozen remotes that have b0rked mute buttons (Actually wore the traces and pads right off the board!), from having to mute every commercial break to avoid being aurally assaulted by braindead shit aimed at the lowest common denominator. (Usually at much higher volumes than what you're watching)
Gee, think maybe THAT'S why people remove commercials? Because they suck? Because they're annoying? You mean there's not some deep, dark, criminal motive behind it? OH-FSCKING-NOES MR. TV EXEC! YOUR WORLD IS ENDING!!
I OWN THE FIREFLY BOX SET, AND ALL TV COMPANY EXECS CAN BURN IN HELL!
(You'll have to excuse that last part, the caffeine is kicking in.)
Last year I bought a LiteON LVD-2002 DVD player, it plays DVDs, SVCDs, VCDs, as well as AVI's (XviD/DivX), MP3s, mpeg1 files, and even jpeg slideshows off either CDs or DVDs. It even has progressive scan and component video outputs... Only set me back $120.
It'd be nice to have some of the features of this machine though, like WMV9 playback, and network access... But I'm already planning to build a MythTV box to serve a DLP projector-based Home Theater system, so it's all good. ^_^
This should keep those kids from buying their violent video games!
Hell, I'm 23 and -I- don't even have a picture ID. And what is this going to solve, anyway? You think some kid who wants to buy the new GTA is going to go "Aww shucks! I can't buy violent video games anymore! I guess I'll go play stickball with my friends..."? Right. <sarcasm>Because we all know his parents didn't buy him a DVD burner last xmas...and there's no way he has usenet access.....</sarcasm>
What kid is going to be all broken up about not being able to spend money on something they're now forced to get for free?
I nominate this idiotic initiative as the scapegoat, for when all the game companies come looking for the money lost to the steep increase in piracy.
People would rather force kids to STEAL video games, than to trust that they know right from wrong on their own? Granted, some don't. Some adults don't either. Crazy is crazy, and stupid is stupid, no matter what age you are.
</rant>
(Oh yeah, and this is assuming the kids don't just order the game online...)
I leave the machine up UNTIL it needs to be rebooted to de-kludge the system... So in my case, I guess it's 100%. :P
Sadly the time between reboots is terribly short... God I hate windows... Someone port Lightwave, Adobe CS, and Macromedia Studio MX to Linux! T_T
I'd have to agree, even if I'm talking in caps for short periods, I do it by holding down the L-Shift with my left pinky... Yelling at people with the caps lock is too easy ;P
"...toiling away on cels..." Please. There's a REASON you can't make any money doing that anymore. Most anime is digitally animated. Sure, maybe most of the lineart is hand drawn, but then it goes into the computer, gets digitally 'inked' then colored... Hell, most anime these days contain insane amounts of CG (Most of which, contrary to the popular response of "Pfft....cg" YOU CAN NOT TELL IS CG.) I mean...damn. Something on the order of 1 out of 5 currently running shows is animated by Gonzo|Digimation anyway....
An 'announcement' of the merger is kinda ridiculously late....considering there's been G4 programming on TechTV all day today. Stupid digital cable listings don't reflect the change...so I have no idea what these shows are... (Not having seen any G4 programming before today.)
Okay....I read 'Paul Allen' as 'Real Alien' when I saw the headline.... I'm switching to decaf.
'never produced an operational helicopter'? I suppose the commanche helicopters I keep seeing on the Discovery Wings channel are CG'd in during post, eh?
I don't get it...It seems like a hella nice piece of gear...why scrap it? We got better ideas in the works? Why not stick with the one we've invested several BILLION dollars in?
No offense to the Maya users in the crowd....but Newtek themselves could buy it, and I'd still prefer Lightwave. There's something to be said for the same amount of power, available through an interface you don't NEED to train on. ^_^
So what exactly are we talking about here? G-Saviour, but with better special effects? (God...that movie was SO BAD...Even the so-so CG Gundams didn't make up for how completely BAD it was....) "Best low-budget, Canadian, B-movie, with a cast consisting of bad anime dub actors, EVER MADE!"
I atleast had hopes that the NGE movie would be cool to watch.....but I don't think I'll get past the names....not that they changed them...but the names are just STUPID.
I'd say it's a mix of most television content these days being total CRAP and the fact that alot of good games are coming out right now. *Goes back to playing Final Fantasy XI*
Your average moron spammer usually botnet floods a channel with spam......ever try to kick a couple dozen bots? It's no fun, and closing down the channel until the kiddies go away is no fun either.
Okay, we ALL know games can't be blamed for violence...I mean come ON. But if this game is anything like those web-based spammer games like lords of chaos and pornstarguru or outwar or any of that other crap you get spammed with on irc, I feel it's an appropriate thing to go after.....I've actually been party to entire irc channels being taken out because someone from that channel ignored common courtesy and mass spammed one of those games....
;P
They're probably one of the worst things on the net, right up there with search results that if you're not paying attention to what the page summary says, floods your screen with 10^5 porn popups, half of which are impossible to close (Thanks Microsoft....)
They serve no purpose whatsoever, and do nothing but encourage spam and poor behavior. I don't even see how these games could be FUN anyway, just going around pissing people off who will NEVER CLICK YOUR LINK ANYWAY, just to build up some 'army' that is supposed to win you some non-existent prize...
GI Joe used to be so damn cool when I was a kid....so when I heard it was going to be on Cartoon Network I had to see it......first time it's on I'm like "wtf is this sh**??" And turned it right the hell off....
:P
The only thing that ruins our 'childhood memories' is knowing better now
And I was a late adopter of the PS2 (This January infact) just to avoid THIS kind of thing!! Xo
I have one of these in my new workstation that I built a month ago (as well as their Creative Inspire 6600 6.1 speakers), all I can say is that it's a great piece of hardware :)
:)
The 'Audigy drive' you get with the Platinum is great too (I own an Audigy Platinum as well, so I knew what I needed.) It gives me a great place to plug in headphones complete with independant volume control. And it even has TOSLink optical out for my MD player
Superbowl? Oops..... Who the hell was playing anyway? XD
Yeah, this didn't sound right to me either, I thought the SNES addon CDrom that turned into the PSX was called 'Project Reality' or something (I could be wrong, I think they called the N64 that too....)
Well, with CN running more mature stuff in Adult Swim, you think they could maybe...I dunno...possibly do away with the friggin toy commercials during it?? :E
I mean, I'm sitting there watching Mobile Suit Gundam, with the volume up and suddenly there's some damn Barbie commercial! (Much louder than what I was watching, I might add.)
Commercials are bad enough these days (They're why the Mute button on my remote no longer works), but these toy commercials make me question the future of the species.
I hope they give it a new timeslot, one that people are likely to be able to SEE it in. Of all the people I know, I'm the only one who manages to catch it AT ALL. If given a good timeslot, it should get alot more viewership.... It'd be nice if they gave it the chance, because it's a great show :)
The majority of that 'neat picture' was built from models and textures that come with Lightwave 3D ;) As a matter of fact, the solar arrays (among other things) are re-textured versions of the ones used on the model of the Goddard space station from the first episode of Space: Above and Beyond.
:)
Probably the most useless information to be uttered in this thread... But hey, it's what I do.
My whole apartment looks like Lain's room. So ha! :P
Like many others reading this thread, I too find it hard to see how this could possibly hurt the game in any way (I can tell you, it ensured that I'LL be in line for a copy, or two.), I can understand your being upset with those who leaked it, but people have been waiting for something, anything, substantial about this game. Unless you were AT E3, about the best you could do was that ATI promo vid for the radeon 9700, and it only had a few seconds of footage. Unfortunately, 'something substantial' came from someone else before it came officially from id.
;)
I must say however, even in it's earliest stages of development this is the coolest (Not to mention graphically amazing) thing I've ever seen, and it's going to blow away every other game out there come release day.
Keep up the good work, and try not to dwell on this little incident too much. Hell, it's not like many of us even have systems that CAN play it.