unfortunately, the US and Russia probably won't be part of this space race, which may leave us behind the times.
instead, we'll have China, India, and a few other countries making leaps and bounds, possibly passing both the US and Russia before either country figures out to re-join the space race.
t's like a soda manufacturer deciding it's ok to redefine an ounce so that they can claim that their drink is larger then it is or just use a smaller container and claim it's still the same size.
you mean like measuring an ounce by weight, instead of by volume?
if the soda were heavier than water (i haven't checked lately, but given the syrup, it has to counteract the disolved gases), then it could really make a difference.
you'd have to check to see if it had metric measurements as well, to deem how much difference there was.
if not for the dead cpu, and the fact that gcc didn't work correctly, what motivation would they have had to do anymore more than a mild glance into gcc?
it was because the cpu was dead, and things didn't work that the attempt was made, and hence the knowledge learned and passed on.
you really need to go on a loooong trip to listen to all the songs before you get home
yup, i plan out all the songs i listen to before leaving the house for the day.
come on, i want more space to have more choice, and to not have to change over what i'm listening to all that often. with a larger amount of space, i can have a more diverse musical selection, and choose based on the mood i'm in now, not the mood i was in while the coffee was brewing in between the shower and the brushing of teeth.:)
nah, i know why they haven't released it (or at least i have a pretty good idea). my proof-of-concept code is usually tersely written and not tested under all conditions, and i'm assuming theirs is as well. i'm sure they'll release it when it's all cleaned up:)
my first part wasn't "why haven't they released this", but more a jibe at people that seem to think that releasing code is super-fast.
i've tried to go thru legal to get supposedly "proprietary" code released to GPL (even if it's a requirement of the license that legal already accepted). my thought is that we should be more patient, rather than attacking linksys, or apply that rage evenly, and complain in this case as well.
at the time of my post, there was a plethora of "this is only for embedded systems"
at that point, there were three reasons why people seemed to think that this would not help the desktop:
o skipping hardware initialization
o the rtlinux kernel is somehow radically different than the mainline kernel
o FSMLabs wouldn't give back the changes
i pointed out that the article stated that many of the optimizations were from what appeared to be profiling, and that people seemed to be missing that this was a modification to the kernel, that the changes would (or should) go back into the mainline kernel, or at least become patches against the mainline kernel by someone who gets the GPL'd source.
i see no point in my original post where i state that these wouldn't/shouldn't make it into the mainline kernel, are you sure you read it correctly?
At this point there is no reason to doubt that when they release these changes in the form of a product, we'll get source.
exactly! there seems to be a lot of confusion as to what this entails. reading the article, it looks as if this is pointed optimizations.
the company releases its run-time for free, under the GPL license, and probably (i haven't looked, i'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, i'm lazy) the source to their changes as well.
at the time of my post, there was a plethora of "this is only for embedded systems" posts. my points were as follows:
o the article talks about finding places to fix, and fixing them
o these are modifications to the kernel, and should make it to mainline
They only have to distribute their source to whomever they distribute a binary
and this is different than linksys how?
this isn't meant to be a troll, but i'm really not seeing how this is different.
FSMLabs sells RTLinux, a real-time version of linux. i'm sure that they are doing their duty and distributing the source of the RTLinux kernel. wouldn't their additions to the kernel become GPL, and be able to be integrated into the main-line kernel?
... that when a company doesn't put its kernel changes out immediately, there's calls for hanging them for violating the GPL, but when a linux company optimizes boot-up routines in the kernel, nobody is asking when the patches are going to be making it into the mainline kernel?
from the looks of the article, FSMLabs has been basically profiling the kernel, looking for sticking points, and optimizing them.
why wouldn't at least some of this work be contributed back to the mainline kernel? it is modifications on a GPL'd kernel, after all.
reading the letter, it really sounds as if lindows is being sneaky, and trying desperately to capitalize on the class action suit by getting sales and customer information by any means possible.
in other words, it sounds like lindows is trying microsoft tricks, and microsoft doesn't like that.
one would think that a port of solaris to 64bit x86 would be fairly trivial. they already have 64bit support in their code base, and can't have diverged the sparc/x86 source bases too much, and still keep code manageability.
plus, sun already has experience with 32bit drivers in a 64bit architecture, from when they rolled out their ultra-1's.
"... But they can rule by fraud, and by fraud eventually require access to the tools they need to finish the job of killing off the Constitution."
"What sort of tools?"
"More stringent security measures. Universal electronic surveillance. No-knock laws. Stop and frisk laws. Government inspection of first-class mail. Automatic fingerprinting, photographing, blood tests, and urinalysis of any person arrested before he is charged with a crime. A law making it unlawful to resist even unlawful arrest. Laws establishing detention camps for potential subversives. Gun control laws. Restrictions on travel. The assassinations, you see, establish the need for such laws in the public mind. Instead of realizing that there is a conspiracy, conducted by a handful of men, the people reason -- or are manipulated into reasoning -- that the entire populace must have its freedom restricted in order to protect the leaders...."
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unfortunately, the US and Russia probably won't be part of this space race, which may leave us behind the times.
instead, we'll have China, India, and a few other countries making leaps and bounds, possibly passing both the US and Russia before either country figures out to re-join the space race.
i don't think this is necessarily a "good thing".
t's like a soda manufacturer deciding it's ok to redefine an ounce so that they can claim that their drink is larger then it is or just use a smaller container and claim it's still the same size.
you mean like measuring an ounce by weight, instead of by volume?
if the soda were heavier than water (i haven't checked lately, but given the syrup, it has to counteract the disolved gases), then it could really make a difference.
you'd have to check to see if it had metric measurements as well, to deem how much difference there was.
mirror
06 - day, 10 - month, 2003 - year
the rest of the world uses day/month/year, whereas the united states uses month/day/year.
if not for the dead cpu, and the fact that gcc didn't work correctly, what motivation would they have had to do anymore more than a mild glance into gcc?
it was because the cpu was dead, and things didn't work that the attempt was made, and hence the knowledge learned and passed on.
and then how long before the incoming ssh attempt is transparently proxied to the vmware instance running on the box, instead of the main os?
there's always a way around, they'd have to go to a client/server method, and eliminate heavy clients in order to secure the network completely.
yes, but what if it crashes? does the whole outfit suddenly turn blue, making the wearer stick out like a sore thumb?
plain ole cammo for me, thanks!
someone walking down the hall, passes someone with a small handheld computer.
the handheld computer quickly negotiates with the clothes on the walker's back, when bingo! the break in happens.
from that point on, the subject walks around with Kick Me! labelled on their back.
another victim, and a smile breaks out on the person holding the handheld computer.
screw that, i hereby revoke darl's claim of IQ!
i was her first placement, so she spent a lot of time trying to do things the right way, and even took me out to lunch after i was placed.
it's a shame that she wasn't around the next time i went looking for a job.
you really need to go on a loooong trip to listen to all the songs before you get home
:)
yup, i plan out all the songs i listen to before leaving the house for the day.
come on, i want more space to have more choice, and to not have to change over what i'm listening to all that often. with a larger amount of space, i can have a more diverse musical selection, and choose based on the mood i'm in now, not the mood i was in while the coffee was brewing in between the shower and the brushing of teeth.
if it runs as a native, compiled image, it's a binary.
:)
even if it's a saved memory image, it still has an entry and exit point, and is still in a form that the machine executes, it's still a binary
nah, i know why they haven't released it (or at least i have a pretty good idea). my proof-of-concept code is usually tersely written and not tested under all conditions, and i'm assuming theirs is as well. i'm sure they'll release it when it's all cleaned up :)
my first part wasn't "why haven't they released this", but more a jibe at people that seem to think that releasing code is super-fast.
i've tried to go thru legal to get supposedly "proprietary" code released to GPL (even if it's a requirement of the license that legal already accepted). my thought is that we should be more patient, rather than attacking linksys, or apply that rage evenly, and complain in this case as well.
i state again:
at the time of my post, there was a plethora of "this is only for embedded systems"
at that point, there were three reasons why people seemed to think that this would not help the desktop:
o skipping hardware initialization
o the rtlinux kernel is somehow radically different than the mainline kernel
o FSMLabs wouldn't give back the changes
i pointed out that the article stated that many of the optimizations were from what appeared to be profiling, and that people seemed to be missing that this was a modification to the kernel, that the changes would (or should) go back into the mainline kernel, or at least become patches against the mainline kernel by someone who gets the GPL'd source.
i see no point in my original post where i state that these wouldn't/shouldn't make it into the mainline kernel, are you sure you read it correctly?
At this point there is no reason to doubt that when they release these changes in the form of a product, we'll get source.
exactly! there seems to be a lot of confusion as to what this entails. reading the article, it looks as if this is pointed optimizations.
the company releases its run-time for free, under the GPL license, and probably (i haven't looked, i'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, i'm lazy) the source to their changes as well.
at the time of my post, there was a plethora of "this is only for embedded systems" posts. my points were as follows:
o the article talks about finding places to fix, and fixing them
o these are modifications to the kernel, and should make it to mainline
They only have to distribute their source to whomever they distribute a binary
and this is different than linksys how?
this isn't meant to be a troll, but i'm really not seeing how this is different.
FSMLabs sells RTLinux, a real-time version of linux. i'm sure that they are doing their duty and distributing the source of the RTLinux kernel. wouldn't their additions to the kernel become GPL, and be able to be integrated into the main-line kernel?
... that when a company doesn't put its kernel changes out immediately, there's calls for hanging them for violating the GPL, but when a linux company optimizes boot-up routines in the kernel, nobody is asking when the patches are going to be making it into the mainline kernel?
from the looks of the article, FSMLabs has been basically profiling the kernel, looking for sticking points, and optimizing them.
why wouldn't at least some of this work be contributed back to the mainline kernel? it is modifications on a GPL'd kernel, after all.
Home shopping channels pay for the privilage of piping their crap into your homes.
and the cable companies then get to claim they carry more channels.
my "basic" cable has 6 dedicated shopping channels, that's almost as many as the 7 dedicated news channels.
there's 13 of the basic cable channels already.
reading the letter, it really sounds as if lindows is being sneaky, and trying desperately to capitalize on the class action suit by getting sales and customer information by any means possible.
in other words, it sounds like lindows is trying microsoft tricks, and microsoft doesn't like that.
should be interesting to see how this plays out.
something tells me that netcraft has installed the bind patch. :)
it would make sense.
one would think that a port of solaris to 64bit x86 would be fairly trivial. they already have 64bit support in their code base, and can't have diverged the sparc/x86 source bases too much, and still keep code manageability.
plus, sun already has experience with 32bit drivers in a 64bit architecture, from when they rolled out their ultra-1's.
they could possibly just do a recompile.
apple has a history of being "sexy".
dell has a history of being "boxy".
somehow, i see their image working against them here.
was the digital sound s/pdif?
if so, in the professional recording world, s/pdif (sony/philips digital interface) is preferred over that optical thingy.
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The secret of Nano-ITX is the Nano-BGA (Ball Grid Array) package, which has allowed VIA to squeeze a 1Ghz C3 CPU into just 15mm square
"... But they can rule by fraud, and by fraud eventually require access to the tools they need to finish the job of killing off the Constitution."
..."
"What sort of tools?"
"More stringent security measures. Universal electronic surveillance. No-knock laws. Stop and frisk laws. Government inspection of first-class mail. Automatic fingerprinting, photographing, blood tests, and urinalysis of any person arrested before he is charged with a crime. A law making it unlawful to resist even unlawful arrest. Laws establishing detention camps for potential subversives. Gun control laws. Restrictions on travel. The assassinations, you see, establish the need for such laws in the public mind. Instead of realizing that there is a conspiracy, conducted by a handful of men, the people reason -- or are manipulated into reasoning -- that the entire populace must have its freedom restricted in order to protect the leaders.
- Robert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson - The Eye in the Pyramid