The idea is cool and I imagine it won't be long before an org. without links (unverified) to M$, will do the same thing. There's at least a couple of people on the grub forum who are figuring out some of the shadier sides of this code: potential spyware? security hole? And the licensing is vague (no links). Note the tone of their pitch as well you are participating in a competitive group effort a kin to Seti@home and Distributed Net? I don't think so... caveat emptor.
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my uncle specializes in outfitting ships that transport natural gas. I popped a copy of this article and the/. refs. for his reading pleasure. Your reponse was by far the best referenced and most interesting IMO. dgd
It seems only librarians are able to appreciate the meaning of this:
[The United States]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Fear of prosecution for reading is the corollary to abridging the freedom of speech.
In reading the responses of some of the (probably younger) technophiles here at/. who see the end in libraries and librarians forget that there are people who still *use* libraries for their reading materials, reference and enjoyment. Beware/.ers! You scream when your electronic "rights" of privacy are violated but seem far too quick to sacrifice the rights of those who don't fit in your clique of 'libraries are old school, the web is the only way'. Beware the pendulum of opinion, it swings like the sword: both ways.
Last I checked there were about 85,000 full text books on the web for free. That's less than roughly.02% of all the books ever published.(Correct me if I'm wrong!) I want to go to my library (and web site) and read whatever I like without having the latest incarnation of a Cloaked Big Brother leaning over my shoulder looking for Thought Crimes.
You'd enjoy Norbert Weiners God and Golem
_God and Golem, Inc._
"Can any creator, even a limited one, play a significant game with his own creature?"
A good read and rather prophetic in his assessment of computer geks to be before there were computer geeks... it's all about control and our lack thereof...
You can't tell me a conspiracy theorist, or worse, a hollywood movie producer, hasn't already cooked up a story line on an infectious disease that eliminates just enough deltas so that the Alphas have an easy go of it taking over... The scary thing is, I too can imagine that!
Your example is fine for psycho-motor reasoning, which is very useful in hunting, throwing, running, hiding, the physical stuff. But, unfortunately the cognitive powers in humans is, uh, weak at best. I teach kids all the time and it takes a lot of input to get the slightest bit of productive output. Throw a ball and they'll catch it. Throw an abstraction, that's another thing all together...humans can IMAGINE. Computers, as yet, cannot. But, the race is certainly on... we're all just slave fodder for the power class anyway.
I was personally hoping to see something more like Wikipedia or a wiki environment of some kind with categories so that those knowledgeable in one area would 'control/edit' the content for that category. Wiki's rock IMHO.
Glad to read someone's questioning the source of the memo. That said, I'm constantly bumping against java apps that consume all system memory. Are there specs. to be found on the HelloWorld example?...
there's also the prison union playing a part in it as well increasing penalties for low impact crimes to fill the prisons so that more prisons have to be built by private corporations so that more uneducated low wage laborers can work at union jobs in prisons protecting us from their fellow high school drop outs
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napalm anybody? i don't know there are quite a few people throwing worse in the cause of humanity or fighting against evil...or for the sake of entertainment. hey, there's american idol for the lowest scratch on the IQ stick (MHO) I like to think of it as a metaphor for all the craziness that nature will weed out as biologically stupid.
the backlit signs at the top of the console...on the sign was the name of the game like 'JOUST' but my memory may be failing me, did Midway make Joust? in fact it is, anyhow I can see the signs, they were 1/4 platic, maybe heavier. They were about 5 inches wide and 30 or so inches long... hth dgd
My friend's mom used to work at Midway. She gave us dozens of the those plastic signs that sat above the screen, you know the ones, as you're looking straight at the machine the thin ones up above the monitor... We would go to the office and play for awhile (though, it was discouraged) for free. I must have been 10 at the time. I should call my friend.
Brussels may not be the warmest place right now but the people are great, the food is good, the beer excellent. I've been back in the States now for almost 10 months and have had the op. to visit some OS conferences/meetings but none have really compared with similar meetings I attended in Vienna or Paris... wistful Yank for the Olde Worlde Digital Ways. If you're in Europe, I'd say GO! dgd
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I don't which is scarier the joke you are making (?), that you are trying to make a joke, or that the joke may not be a joke at all.
What information would we need to calculate the amount of energy needed to lift a "300 pound" steel cap into orbit? We "know" it left the earth traveling at six times escape velocity. So with this information, can't we calculate the amount of energy generated at the bottom of this 500 foot vertical shaft?
do show-and-tell: each student explores something then briefly describes their findings to the others
I think this is perhaps the most interesting part of the learning experience... though 'most' of us are geeking out 'wasting time' reading and writing for/. kids need a chance to rub off those rough edges of untested social interactions as much as possible. Having kids try to teach what they know and ask others for help and vice versa (!) will pay enormous dividends.
As well, teach them how to copy paste their CMDLINE stuff to a wiki so they can begin to build their own online libraries of HOWTOs. dgd
just kidding not. Well, kinda. I've observed people become absolutely absorbed in the Sims. Why not imagine a game that does in fact teach consequences of behavior? I've not seen any jails or drug rehabs, or one parent families or abject poverty in the Sims but... that's a game of life played by quite a few people in the States.
Why not Sims Africa? Sims Asia? Sims Middle East? How about the Sims in Poverty? The Sims at the bottom of socio-economic ladder of your favorite first world country?
The current one is Sims in Wonderland, as in I wonder where that could be.
The Sims, if run on less of an entertainment model and more of a group process culturization model could demonstrate that we are all more or less aiming for the same things: respect, recognition, and personal safety. Not too mention a regular meal.
Yeh, I'm just kidding. But as Elvis Costello asks, What's so funny about peace love and understanding?
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I did a quick search of the list and found not a single instance of the word 'teach' or 'useful'. I was hoping that somebody might point out that the Sims could in fact be a great training tool for the millions of disenfranchised, apathetic, socially maladjusted children filling our classrooms.
Can't you see it? A Sims kid, learning the rules of school success? The price of cause and effect? What it means to identify patterns not only in grammar or math but in social behaviors? You are in fact rewarded for being an intelligent, conscientious, care-giving individual. In the Sims world it's just points...but in the 'real world' the point system is stronger friends, families, and social positioning...
The kids 'today', sounds familiar doesn't it?, are so saturated with much better much more interesting subjects to study: Nintendo, PlayStation, Xbox, etc.. Why would they be at all interested in reading, writing, math or maybe even how to get along with another human being when the alternatives are so much more entertaining?
The Sims way of life might actually be a great way of bringing our kids 'back to life', i.e. understanding the basic rules of cause and effect in a socially and economically complex environment, what we call the real world.
Slashdot Mirror
The idea is cool and I imagine it won't be long before an org. without links (unverified) to M$, will do the same thing. There's at least a couple of people on the grub forum who are figuring out some of the shadier sides of this code: potential spyware? security hole? And the licensing is vague (no links).
Note the tone of their pitch as well you are participating in a competitive group effort a kin to Seti@home and Distributed Net? I don't think so... caveat emptor.
my uncle specializes in outfitting ships that transport natural gas. I popped a copy of this article and the /. refs. for his reading pleasure. Your reponse was by far the best referenced and most interesting IMO.
dgd
It seems only librarians are able to appreciate the meaning of this:
/. who see the end in libraries and librarians forget that there are people who still *use* libraries for their reading materials, reference and enjoyment. Beware /.ers! You scream when your electronic "rights" of privacy are violated but seem far too quick to sacrifice the rights of those who don't fit in your clique of 'libraries are old school, the web is the only way'. Beware the pendulum of opinion, it swings like the sword: both ways.
.02% of all the books ever published.(Correct me if I'm wrong!) I want to go to my library (and web site) and read whatever I like without having the latest incarnation of a Cloaked Big Brother leaning over my shoulder looking for Thought Crimes.
[The United States]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Fear of prosecution for reading is the corollary to abridging the freedom of speech.
In reading the responses of some of the (probably younger) technophiles here at
Last I checked there were about 85,000 full text books on the web for free. That's less than roughly
You'd enjoy Norbert Weiners God and Golem
_God and Golem, Inc._
"Can any creator, even a limited one, play a significant game with his own creature?"
A good read and rather prophetic in his assessment of computer geks to be before there were computer geeks...
it's all about control and our lack thereof...
You can't tell me a conspiracy theorist, or worse, a hollywood movie producer, hasn't already cooked up a story line on an infectious disease that eliminates just enough deltas so that the Alphas have an easy go of it taking over...
The scary thing is, I too can imagine that!
Your example is fine for psycho-motor reasoning, which is very useful in hunting, throwing, running, hiding, the physical stuff. But, unfortunately the cognitive powers in humans is, uh, weak at best. I teach kids all the time and it takes a lot of input to get the slightest bit of productive output. Throw a ball and they'll catch it. Throw an abstraction, that's another thing all together...humans can IMAGINE. Computers, as yet, cannot. But, the race is certainly on... we're all just slave fodder for the power class anyway.
I was personally hoping to see something more like Wikipedia or a wiki environment of some kind with categories so that those knowledgeable in one area would 'control/edit' the content for that category. Wiki's rock IMHO.
Glad to read someone's questioning the source of the memo. That said, I'm constantly bumping against java apps that consume all system memory. Are there specs. to be found on the HelloWorld example?...
you'd never see anything as useful or as creative coming out of South Dakota or Guadalajara
there's also the prison union playing a part in it as well increasing penalties for low impact crimes to fill the prisons so that more prisons have to be built by private corporations so that more uneducated low wage laborers can work at union jobs in prisons protecting us from their fellow high school drop outs
napalm anybody?
i don't know there are quite a few people throwing worse in the cause of humanity or fighting against evil...or for the sake of entertainment. hey, there's american idol for the lowest scratch on the IQ stick (MHO) I like to think of it as a metaphor for all the craziness that nature will weed out as biologically stupid.
the backlit signs at the top of the console...on the sign was the name of the game like 'JOUST' but my memory may be failing me, did Midway make Joust? in fact it is, anyhow I can see the signs, they were 1/4 platic, maybe heavier. They were about 5 inches wide and 30 or so inches long...
hth
dgd
My friend's mom used to work at Midway. She gave us dozens of the those plastic signs that sat above the screen, you know the ones, as you're looking straight at the machine the thin ones up above the monitor... We would go to the office and play for awhile (though, it was discouraged) for free. I must have been 10 at the time. I should call my friend.
Brussels may not be the warmest place right now but the people are great, the food is good, the beer excellent. I've been back in the States now for almost 10 months and have had the op. to visit some OS conferences/meetings but none have really compared with similar meetings I attended in Vienna or Paris... wistful Yank for the Olde Worlde Digital Ways. If you're in Europe, I'd say GO!
dgd
I don't which is scarier the joke you are making (?), that you are trying to make a joke, or that the joke may not be a joke at all.
your link http://www.discover.com/dec_02/featmagnet.htmle lped me better understand this technology. thanks for the tip!
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dgd
I'm surprised they've not considered selling the scans.
What information would we need to calculate the amount of energy needed to lift a "300 pound" steel cap into orbit? We "know" it left the earth traveling at six times escape velocity. So with this information, can't we calculate the amount of energy generated at the bottom of this 500 foot vertical shaft?
do show-and-tell: each student explores something then briefly describes their findings to the others
/. kids need a chance to rub off those rough edges of untested social interactions as much as possible. Having kids try to teach what they know and ask others for help and vice versa (!) will pay enormous dividends.
I think this is perhaps the most interesting part of the learning experience... though 'most' of us are geeking out 'wasting time' reading and writing for
As well, teach them how to copy paste their CMDLINE stuff to a wiki so they can begin to build their own online libraries of HOWTOs.
dgd
ditto
moz 1.2.1 / RH8 no problem, picked up all my prefs EXCEPT my plugins other than that no prob.
Sorry. My bad.
Kafka's The Penal Colony
Did anyone read it, Kafka's http://www-ec.njit.edu/~pro3/NJIT/Options/Opt-S'98 Camp/Kafka/Kafka-00.html ?
What a convenient tool for bar coding or worse. Low tech ID cards for prisons? police states?
The sword cuts both ways.
h tml
Check this list out.
http://code.law.harvard.edu/filtering/list.
ABC
BBC
CBS
All blocked. I especially like the http://sourceforge.net block.
Is this the price of freedom is knowing how powerless we are against power?
dgd
just kidding
not.
Well, kinda. I've observed people become absolutely absorbed in the Sims. Why not imagine a game that does in fact teach consequences of behavior? I've not seen any jails or drug rehabs, or one parent families or abject poverty in the Sims but... that's a game of life played by quite a few people in the States.
Why not Sims Africa? Sims Asia? Sims Middle East? How about the Sims in Poverty? The Sims at the bottom of socio-economic ladder of your favorite first world country?
The current one is Sims in Wonderland, as in I wonder where that could be.
The Sims, if run on less of an entertainment model and more of a group process culturization model could demonstrate that we are all more or less aiming for the same things: respect, recognition, and personal safety. Not too mention a regular meal.
Yeh, I'm just kidding. But as Elvis Costello asks, What's so funny about peace love and understanding?
I did a quick search of the list and found not a single instance of the word 'teach' or 'useful'. I was hoping that somebody might point out that the Sims could in fact be a great training tool for the millions of disenfranchised, apathetic, socially maladjusted children filling our classrooms.
Can't you see it? A Sims kid, learning the rules of school success? The price of cause and effect? What it means to identify patterns not only in grammar or math but in social behaviors? You are in fact rewarded for being an intelligent, conscientious, care-giving individual. In the Sims world it's just points...but in the 'real world' the point system is stronger friends, families, and social positioning...
The kids 'today', sounds familiar doesn't it?, are so saturated with much better much more interesting subjects to study: Nintendo, PlayStation, Xbox, etc.. Why would they be at all interested in reading, writing, math or maybe even how to get along with another human being when the alternatives are so much more entertaining?
The Sims way of life might actually be a great way of bringing our kids 'back to life', i.e. understanding the basic rules of cause and effect in a socially and economically complex environment, what we call the real world.
dgd