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Mozilla 1.2.1 Released
I shouldn't be allowed to work before coffee- I posted this at like 8:20 and must've forgotten to click that all important 'Save' button. Hey, Everyone's favorite web browser besides Chimera has released version 1.2.1. The fix includes security patches so it probably wouldn't hurt to snag it if you're running it.
I posted this at like 8:20 and must've forgotten to click that all important 'Save' button.
Well maybe that is the problem, editors keep accidently hitting the save button throughout the day... I am sure we will see this story yet again... =P
that mozilla is quick at fixing their software when problems arise. Too bad that the DHTML bug came up in the first place. But I say "good job moz" for their fast repairs.
Whats that again?
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
Since the story didn't mention it, the only difference between 1.2 and 1.2.1 is the fix for the DHTML bug (#182500).
"I shouldn't be allowed to work before coffee- I posted this at like 8:20" For a minute there, I thought he said he posted this on 420...
From the release notes: "The only difference between the two releases [1.2 vs 1.2.1] is the fix for this bug (Bug 182500)." And it was a DHTML bug, not a security bug. -- Andrés
BTW, that FP was posted using Mozilla 1.2.1 which proves its simply the fastest.
Is why a revision point release of a browser is all that big of a deal. I understand this is /. and open source is pretty much the life blood around here - but is it that slow of a news day that the editors are digging for App BLAH has released Version ?.?.x ...? Perhaps /. should do a story on the European Online hate speech ban or be so kind as to give us /. readers an update on the DMCA FatWallet scandal (which has become a lot more interesting IMHO)
/. editors may want to start doing a bit of poking around on their own (beyond the woefully overhyped Anime DVD releases that Taco raves on about). I think that the content of slashdot could be improved a great deal with very little effort on the part of the staff.
Anyway I guess my point here is to say that I think that instead of relying 100% on submitted news items that
Afterall, isn't there more to "journalism" than reguritating content back to the viewers who told you about it in the first place? That seems logical enough to me. If you want a better browsing experience I suggest you take a trip to http://www.arstechnica.com - while they may not post as many stories - they are far more carefully choosen and presented in such a way that doesn't alienate 50% of viewers by the second sentence (Hint: Check out any Anti MS story here and then check out the browsing statistics for this site)
Thanks for your time,
J
I love idealists not because I am one, but because they make life bearable for pragmatists such as myself.
Just for my own reference, examples of sites which died with the DHTML bug? Do lots of sites use DHTML? What the hell _IS_ DHTML ? :)
Uh, hello, try Phoenix. k, thx.
Sounds like the bust-waist-hips measurements of the red lizard mascot in decameters.
It seems like they only just released a version a little while ago. Am I the only person who finds this somewhat annoying?
I love mozilla, but I'm curious why the rapid update? Zilla says it's because of a DHTML fix but How do errata sneak into progs like this? It's shameful, imo.
This is our latest stable release and users of all previous versions are
encouraged to upgrade to this release for features, as well as performance,
stability, and security fixes. It contains the fix for the DHTML bug that
prompted us to pull Mozilla 1.2. See the release notes for more
info.
I installed 1.2 on my XP machine and it just kept freezing up. The Beta worked properly. Once I saw that I didn't even try and install it my linux laptop.
As the post said... this is a fix release. If you got to sites that use DHTML, or couldn't get Mozilla 1.2 installed (It had a nasty permissions bug on UNIX, which kept it from being run by a normal user). Basically, get this release, but dont expect any cool features... it's just a bug fix release.
"And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the World"
1 John 4:14
shouldn't be allowed to work before coffee- I posted this at like 8:20 and must've forgotten to click that all important 'Save' button.
That's ok, I'm sure we'd have seen the story the next two times it's going to run on Slashdot.
NO CARRIER
it seems like the main problem was that document.write() would eat some inital characters which caused a lot of DHTML sites that used document.write() to break.
Looking at the release notes shows that the only change from 1.2.1 to 1.2 is the fix for the DHTML bug, but the installation images (Win32) went from 10.81 MB (11,339,472 bytes) to 10.95 MB (11,491,024 bytes). Anyone know why it got so much bigger? Was the fix that involved?
C8H10N4O2 | Developer > Code
I was actually able to download *both* the Windows and Linux binaries in their entirety WITHOUT waiting several hours for the process to complete. I attribute this feat entirely to the slashdot editor who forgot to press "Save". THANK YOU! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
Where is Mozilla for OpenBSD?
If the new release appears to cause problems, be sure to remove/move your profile directory. This is one of the things I always forget to do when installing a new release because most of the time it doesn't make a difference. Also, although the source tarballs aren't posted, I was able to steal one out of the Redhat SRPMS that appears to be authentic (using rpm2tgz/rpm2targz and there's another tarball inside). Now why couldn't they just post the tarball first?
Actually, the headline isn't completely wrong, Mozilla 1.2.1 only contains the "can't write to dynamically created elements" fix that was breaking some DHTML and page layout. Mozilla 1.2.1 also contains everything that the 1.2 release contained when it was released and then unreleased last week. That included new features, improved performance, better stability and security fixes. So if you're using _any_ oler Mozilla releases you really should upgrade to get all the new 1.2.1 goodness, including improved security.
For the folks that just downloaded Mozilla 1.2 last week, if you're not having any problems (and it seems like the DHTML issue is a lot less visible on linux) then there's no pressing "security" reason to upgrade to 1.2.1 but you might as well get it for this DHTML fix which is likely to eventually cause you some pain at some site somewhere.
--Asa
Since over half the slashdot crowd uses IE, should there not be stories out when MS releases new versions of it?
Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
What's the Microsoft sponsored study on the TCO for using Mozilla vs. Explorer? Is it WORTH it?
:)
Mod: TROLL
Now I am waiting for Linux-2.4 news.
How come the solaris releases are always days or even weeks behind?
They have not fixed the bug I submitted (even though other people have confirmed it as they experience it, too), yet they have not listed it in the "Known problems".
Should I resubmit it?
Sigged!
Mozilla is a threaded e-mail client, eh? So far, so good. However, it doesn't actually remember the Expand All Threads state.
So, suppose that you turn on threading and tell Mozilla to Expand All Threads. You now have a nice tree-like view of mail threads :). But, next time you load Mozilla, it'll be back to compressed view again (but still sorted by threads). If threaded mail sounds useful to you, you may want to vote for the bug (of course, you'll need a free Bugzilla account to vote).
Alex Bischoff
HTML/CSS coder for hire
I guess someone's been reading CmdrTaco's access.log file again!
And when are they going to fix the damn quick launch and the plethora of mail bugs that keep me tied to Communicator for mail.
I love Moz, but geez, this stuff has been pushed out since 1.0RC1 (which was a fine application EXCEPT THIS STUFF).
</rant>
I get really annoyed every time I install a new version of mozilla. Perhaps I'm doing it wrong somehow, but every time I upgrade all my plugins disappear. The first page I have to visit after an upgrade is optimoz.mozdev.org to get my mouse gestures back.
Is there some way to preserve these plugins that I don't know about?
And why oh why do I have to be root to install mouse-gestures under linux?
Tick Tick Tick Tick Tick Tick.....
With most projects, the tgz'd (or bz2'd) source file is in plain site, but I can never seem to find the one for Mozilla. Sure, I can extract it from the SRPM, but I want the real deal. And please, no "real men use CVS" comments, okay?
(Posting as AC, as I feel lame for having to ask this quesiton.)
has this always been true or is this new to 1.2... I don't remember my themes not working before but it may just be my memory that's not working
... how come I now can't have both my mail and browser windows open at the same time? Worked fine in 1.2 final. Now the mozilla process won't even die when I close all the windows (well, all one of the windows, since now, in an obvious bid to Highlander fans, there can be only one).
Let me demonstrate where I am with Mozilla:
start of tether [----------------|--] end of tether
Don't tell me to bug it, I've already filed loads of bugs (very few of which have even been looked at, let alone fixed), and I haven't the time. 1.1 kept crashing on me, the 1.2 beta was worse, and you can forget about using the nightlies if you don't want to hit completely random regressions every other minute.
No, I know I'm not paying for it, and I know it's a community effort, whatever. Let me just have five minutes of rage. (Actually, let me have the original 1.2 final installer back, because at least that one seemed to work, and minor DHTML bugs are something I'll put up with if they let me read the web and my mail at the same time)
-- Yoz
you should use some of that wealth to get some english lessons.
Here's the response I got:
"Dear Sir,
'Slow as hell, shitty, and does not display half the pages properly, if at all' is not a bug.
If you cannot display the Bank of America online banking page, that is your fault for being a capitalist swine who cares more about his finances than open source.
Thank you,
Mozilla Team"
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
Don't speak for everyone... Mozilla and Chimaria aren't my favorite browsers... Opera is.
"It's not like your minds are as open as the source you love..." - Me to the majority of Slashdot.
Uh, hello, try Phoenix. k, thx.
Try galeon, OK? Its a great, fast browser.
But for some reason, this post sounds like something Mao would say if he were a 21st century geek. C'mon, doesn't it? =)
"You know why you do not see me styling wit my homies? Because I have no homies!!" -Mojo Jojo
Okay, maybe I'm just having a slow start to my Tuesday, but why can't I figure out how to get Mozilla 1.2 to go ahead and smooth fonts in KDE on a RedHat 8 system? I can't even find anything useful on Google, which is bizarre.
Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
Why must Mozilla always release only the full version, even for minor fix releases like this one. I am on a satellite connection, so it took me hours to download 1.2, and now I will have to download almost the exact same thing all over again. Can't they release both a full version and a patch for the previous version?
>> side note: linux licks balls
really ?
What all releases ?
or just the crack-ho's build.
Now I know what open sores is all about...
Acid House saves Souls
So, was the DHTML bug the reason why the image map (top right: Help|My Orders|etc) on the EB Games wasn't working for me in 1.2? It seems to be okay in 1.2.1.
I've been using Opera 7 beta and it just screams. Even for a beta, it's more stable than Mozilla ever has been, and the interface is cleaner without a lot of unnecessary glitz.
Icing on the mornings cake: I got up on time, drove to work, posted a story, and then forgot to press *save* on the goddamn web form. So for hte next 2 hours I keep deleting submission after submission about Mozilla 1.2.1 thinking "geezus, are people blind?" and not realizing that no, I am in fact stupid. Of course, why so many people submit a bug fix release of a web browser is beyond me. Some stories I'd rather not post, but sheer volume of submissions really makes it impractical to ignore them
--
Overcaffeinated. Angry geeks.
in eventual response to some major security flaw which will have been discussed a few months earlier on /. when it was first discovered. And when they are released, normally there will be a /. article about the ridiculous new EULA provisions ("In the name of computer safety, we reserve the right to purchase, sell, trade, barter or dispose of at our convenience your first born child") so we are informed, in a way.
I know you're a troll but.... shouldn't you also know the difference between evar/ever? I wait, have I just been tricked??? Now I see how foolish we all truely are. Thank you master.
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I'm sorry, but for all that Chimera is hailed, is is a piece of crap browser. I've been using it and it just crashes constantly and lacks a lot of features. Features that I sorely miss from mozilla/phoenix while using Chimera are:
Smart Bookmarks (searching from location bar very convenient, am using what I feel is a kludge of a javascript monstrosity set as my search page to search by selection or pop up a dialog if there is no selection, decent, but still not as cool).
Type-ahead find: very nifty feature.
Ability to have hrefs that request new windows open in tabs. I like tabs and don't like sites breaking my preferred usage paradigm.
Freaking close buttons on the tabs. I hate having to right click, control-click, or click and hold to close a tab that is not the active tab. Just annoying.
The first is to me the biggest issue. I just had to rant that Chimera is not 'all-that'. If it didn't crash so much and at *least* had smart bookmarks, then maybe. OmniWeb and IE are just too feature barren, Opera misrenders some important pages to me, and Mozilla is too slow. Phoenix has been decent, but middle-click doesn't work and sometimes it gets a bit confused in the MacOSX builds... Well, enough of my rant..
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
I'm curious as to where you got the idea that mozilla was everyone's favorite web browser.
It seems most of the world uses IE, or netscape, or opera.. before mozilla.
can we please have a new slashdot topic for something like "minor releases" so i can filter these stories out...
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
I didn't see that the NTLM proxy problem was fixed on Bugzilla (23679), but I am sending this from Mozilla 1.2.1 and it is going through my company NTLM proxy! Before I had to run a python script that I found on Freshmeat (Python Script) in order to get it to go through. It now appears that Mozilla finally has it built in.
BEWARE---Installing 1.2.1 can destroy your Palm user account.
Aside from that, Palm address book sync is in... but there still seems to be lots of issues with it. Categores don't seem to sync well, it resets the "Show in list" field every time something changes, secondary address books don't always sync, etc.
Classify as Not Yet Ready for Prime Time(tm).
Life if possible, art at any cost.
You'll be amused to know that Mozilla 1.2.1 differs from Mozilla 1.2 by one character.
Ok, not exactly. It actually differs by 34 characters. The bug fix itself was a one character change (changed a '9' to an '8'). Changing the version string in various places from "1.2" to "1.2.1" took 33 characters.
I get around this problem by saving the .xpi file (from mozdev or elsewhere) to disk, instead of allowing it to install immediately. I keep all my .xpi files in a separate directory. Then, when I get a new Mozilla installation, I open them (File -> Open) and install them at that point.
Too late to be known as Bush the First, he's sure to be known as Bush the Worst.
I love Chimera, but there seems to be no roadmap. Any idea when Chimera 0.7 will be out?
One thing that is really keeping me from using Mozilla is the fact that I can't use my google toolbar. I've become dependant on it, to be honest. So, it would be cool if Mozilla could emulate IE somehow or another to fool Google and be able to have IE style custom toolbars. Not sure if this is possible....
Honestly folks, do we really need a front page story every time a new version of Mozilla is realeased? I'm sure there's other applications that are more deserving than a web browser.
Mozilla 1.2.1 Released
Mozilla 1.2 Unleashed
Mozilla 1.2 Beta Released
Mozilla 1.2 Betas Start Flowing
Mozilla 1.1 Hits The Street
Mozilla 1.1 Beta Out And About
And that's just from the first two pages of search results. I know we all love our Mozilla, but I'm sure there's something else a little more newsworthy going on today.
"A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but doesn't have an air force." -William Blum
``I shouldn't be allowed to work before coffee''
Indeed. Since when is fixing document.write() to not drop characters a security fix? I'm snatching this one, though. Ater coffee, though.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
Maybe because when Microsoft releases a new version every technology site plus almost every other site including online book stores, online lingerie stores, online food delivery sites and gramma's blog run reviews, praisings and articles about it. Such an event is usually also covered by all newspapers, magazines, high-school student papers and church bulletins in the world. It is not like without Slashdot we would all be ignorant of Microsoft new releases...
which proves its simply the fastest.
Your message makes no sense.
It might be worth consideration if the text boxes worked *vaguely* like proper Mac OS X text fields. No spell checking, completely bozofied text selection (try double-clicking and dragging or triple clicking.) It's a nice try but it'll never replace OmniWeb for anything other than fancy DHTML or JavaScript sites that don't work in OW.
The directory for src is empty:
l la 1.2.1/src
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozi
I really want to start this building whilst I'm at work but I can't find the source!
Anyone know which nightly this was built from? I can just download that one.
"Fighting the underpants gnomes since 1998!" "Bruce Schneier knows the state of schroedinger's cat"
If I wrote a C program and started it as
it is perfectly permissible for the compiler to complain. This is almost as bad as writing which is clearly absurd (even with a previous typedef colour_type uint32_t, even with time.h and stdint.h included and even if there isn't a syntax error somewhere).If web designers insist on writing web pages which either do not conform to standards or which misuse deprecated elements (such as <font face="symbol">¥</font> (or with an absolute code) for ∞ (Slashdot won't display certain characters, so I've had to literalise them to prevent them being stripped out completely) when many systems don't have a Microsoft symbol font - I see this problem far too often (although that site does warn users)), they should expect their page to fail somewhere.
Of course, the DHTML bug is bad because with it, Mozilla 1.2 is not a conforming implementation of the HTML 4.0 standard and so no company will dare use it (just as few companies (excluding Microsoft) will dare use GCC (any version) due to lack of C99 support.
And you forget the most important problem of Microsoft Internet Explorer - it does not work at all on any Unix system (the Solaris and HP/UX versions have been withdrawn), on any GNU system or indeed on almost all operating systems. Mozilla has the virtue of being somewhat more portable (for example, ports to BeOS and OpenVMS are in the pipeline).
So I'll continue using NS 4.79 for my average, daily needs. I'll use Moz for checking my own web work (particularly for what CSS stuff does) and for those rare sites that don't work (correctly) with NS 4.79.
And wait for a stable release of the browser-previously-known-as-Phoenix. Maybe at least the performance issues will be addressed.
Ack, I can't get the main rpm with XFS support now. (Slashdotted?) I know someone out there has these files mirrored. Would be greatly appreciated..
"To lead the people, you must walk behind them"
Flamebait? If I had said "THATS NOT NEWS!!!" I'd understand a flamebait moderation, but "how about a little backstory for the uninitiated?" request is not exactly the type of thing that'll have people out for my blood.
I've had no problems whatsoever in RH 8.0.
1 - Tabbed browsing is cool, but you should get a confirmation that you'd like to close the main browser window when you have 23 tabs open
2 - CTRL-SHIFT-L to open a web address. Make it CTRL-O.
We hate Micro$haft! We LOVE Moz! And there are many reasons for that.
Get a clue! For real. Or go throw yourself in front of a train.
I installed Mozilla 1.1 a couple weeks ago on Mandrake Linux. Apostrophes and quotes no longer resolve correctly -- appear as umlaut y or something like that. I've looked around for the easy answer, not yet found one. I doubt upgrading to 1.21 would correct this. Any ideas or resources?
Support your local Independent candidate. Better yet, make new friends and run for public office.
http://www.mozilla.org/releases/
Scroll down looking for "Net Installer" .
One simple rule for its versus it's
Who the heck cares abuot Chimera? Don't you still use Linux, Taco? Anyway my favorite browser is Konqueror, second Galeon ...
Don't worry, you didn't post a 1000 word point-by-point rebuttal, so you're safe on that point. But you just posted a speling flaim, which itself is a punishable offense. Now, go sit in the corner, and spend half an hour looking at the goatse guy!
--if anyone from redhat(or someone else knowledgeable) would care to comment if/when they'll be official RPM's available for the 7.x series releases, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
If you're still using 1.2, you can see the bug in action at nextel.com
Where did the popup blocking go in the final 1.2 and 1.2.1 builds that was in the 1.2 beta builds? All I see for blocking popups now is under the Javascript prefs, but I'd rather have the option to do it on a site by site basis (or more preferable, create a whitelist of trusted sites and block the rest). Anybody?
... turns out to be bug 144027.
Cheers to the Mozilla bugspotters for pointing me in the right direction!
start of tether [--|-------------] end of tether
-- Yoz
...is still a UPS truck full of CD/DVD-ROMs.
shouldn't this be a mozilla topic rather than news?
YOU == STUPID
PARENT == FUNNY
One thing that differs from the Mozilla 1.2 and 1.2.1 release notes is that it encoureges us to upgrade Linux users to Macromedia Flash 6 Beta
It says that Mozilla 1.3 may not support previous versions of Flash.
I have not tested it yet, but they say that one of the bugs from Mozilla that annoyes me most was fixed: mozilla crashes when openning flash content in a remote display
I finally got around to compiling the source, and
here there's a bug fix release out. what a waste
of cpu cycles.
> 1.2.1 does have better security than 1.1 or 1.0.1
That's if you don't consider pre-fetching being on by default to be a potential security risk. I'm probably a little paranoid, but I'm sticking with 1.1 until Phoenix gets a little less beta (which doesn't seem like it'll be too much longer) or until pre-fetching is off by default in Moz (and yes I know I can turn it off myself... it's the principle darn it).
Why doesn't this thread use the Mozilla icon instead of the news story pic? I know it is picky but this is MOZILLA news not general info
If you're on a single user (or more or less single user, e.g. you and a couple of family members, housemates etc.) Unix system then there's an alternative way to disentangle plugins from the browser itself.
Create a directory ~/.mozilla/plugins
(that's right, beneath Mozilla's own dot directory)
Then move plugins you want into that directory (but only real plugins, not the null plugin or any other Moz-provided stuff)
This works for me, YMMV.
Arggh! I upgraded my 1.2beta and will probably roll it out.
They have removed the new pop up manager saying it will return when it's ready for prime time. Damn! I thought the pop up manager was terrific as it is.
They also, but I can't find the bug report now, seem to have removed the middle-click kills a tabbed window behavior, another behavior I use all the time.
Hey, for me, 1.2.1 is much worse than 1.2beta.
I've been using version 1.0 ever since its been released. Have had no problems yet. What am i missing?
good job, mozilla team, for fixing the dhtml bug...just one bug out of the many tho :(
Copy the plugin files (except npnul32.dll) to a directory called plugins created in the same directory as your Profiles/ directory. For win2k this is %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Mozilla\plugins
I really don't see what all the fuss about tabbed browsing is about; It really just does the same thing as opening a new window in IE (I have more ram than I know what to do with when just surfing the net).
I do like the idea of blocking pop up windows and other adds but I had problems accessing one of my favorite sites (tv.yahoo.com) and quickly got tired of having to open IE when Mozilla didn't work.
I am willing to give Mozilla another try but do I really have to uninstall 1.2 to upgrade to 1.2.1 on windows?
Do you know a good site for Mozilla newbies?
No this is not a troll, I really am just starting to use Mozilla, and not impressed with tabbed browsing.
AFAIC 1.2.1 is almost unusable. On my home machine (dual 450MHz PII) it takes up to 3 seconds every time I close a browser window. During this period it hammers the disk viciously. This was not noticeable prior to 1.2. Something has changed drastically, and it is making the browser very hard to use. Are they doing cache cleanups every time a window is closed? What the...
(I know, log a bug, fix it myself. Yeh right, like all the users are responsible for these regressions...)
I can't appear to pull the source from the CVS... Has it been /.ed???
Luke-Jr
...and faster...soon i might consider switching from Opera...i just upgraded from 1.0 to this build and it's really getting useable. It also starts wayyyy faster on my slackbox now. And since it's the only real, free alternative around (i don't count konqueror since i don't consider it a full featured browser although it's neat) i will give it another testdrive...
cu,
Lispy
Translation:
Anything that you are not completely familiar with or disagree with is subject to ridicule. Any flaws in your ridicule are the responsibility of those that only partially informed you, therefore maintaining your perfection and absolute right to ridicule.
Damn, sorry we all forgot to fully inform you. We must have been mistaken when we assumed that you had the responsibility to inform yourself before engaging your sarcastic wit. This release of Mozilla clears up all of the problems I have had with 1.2b, now that you know what it is, try it and enjoy. Don't forget to check out tabbed browsing.
Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. - Mark Twain
one +1 Insightful.
CTRL-SHIFT-L to open a web address. Make it CTRL-O. Have you tried using the plain old ctrl-L command? I can no longer use browsers that lack this feature. (IE5 for Mac was the first place I saw it.)
Just how buggy (using Win version) this thing is?
In all seriousness, why is it that if your run-in-the-mill user submits this kind of tidbit the night it's released, it's rejected, but when an editor figures it out the next morning, his is the one on the front page?
_____
If you can't hear the voices in my head, then you're just not listening hard enough.
TO BUY A NEW CAR WOULD MAKE YOU SEXUALLY ATTRACTIVE.
And I thought it might be funny to mention OpenBSD. You win.
I don't want knowledge. I want certainty. - Law, David Bowie
When is Mozilla going to recognize the "border" tag for tables? And why does background=#444444 only work in IE? IE recognizes both "background" and "bgcolor." Would it hurt Mozilla to do the same?
It seems like a no brainer and yet the Mozilla team for some reason has decided not to implement it. I needed a solid border for a recent web project and I ended up having to use a spacer graphic (since the cells were empty and would collapse without it) and a background color to create the border out of excess cells. That's absurd.
A table with borders, what a concept. Some little "extras" that IE has are really nice. If you could get off the anti-MS parade for a moment and oh I dunno, implement some of the basic ones, that would be great.
Mozilla nice and all but it's the little things like that which are just annoying so I stick to IE and only use Mozilla when checking compatibility with my site.
Ben
Work Safe Porn
Yeah, and then there's that other dead OS, OS/2...Oh, wait
Some people go way overboard on the number of webpages they have open at once, and tabbed browsing is a lot more pleasent than a bunch of individual browsers on the taskbar.
A good site for mozilla newbies would be MozDev. More specifically, OptiMoz. Try installing the plugins here and you might/will be impressed.
Try downloading Mozilla in tar.gz. Uninstall mozilla with rpm -e mozilla mozilla-mail mozilla-psm, and run the installer.
/usr/local/mozilla/mozilla /usr/bin/
After that, everything will be all nice, except if you want it to be in your $PATH, you can link it, with
ln -s
For Windows 95 and later users with IE5.5+, also see Dave's Quick Search Deskbar.
'Missing a feature you need? If you know HTML and want to add your own functionality, you can - it is distributed under GPL and is available at SourceForge.'
Just upgraded after using 1.1 and 1.2.* is giving me
a lot of problems. But I guess that's progress. I'm surprised at how much worse this version is than 1.1 and I've only used it for about 10 minutes. First time I tried starting nothing happened, I saw lots of mozilla processes but no GUI. Something's definitely funky about this version.
http://tinyurl.com/3t236
I use Opera, too (paid for it, even). And if it weren't for several really annoying bug/features, I'd quit using Mozilla altogether:
But the main reason that Opera doesn't get as much press is because, heck, they're making money. If the Mozilla programmers build a better browser, kudos from the open-source press are likely the only payment they'll see for their efforts. But if Opera builds a better browser (and in a lot of ways, they have -- witness their domination of the embedded market) they'll get paid in cash.
The Web is like Usenet, but
the elephants are untrained.
They fixed a bug that should've been detected ages before 1.2 was released within a few days, and you CONGRATULATE them?!?!?!?
I have to say that mozilla/netscape are among the WORST developers I have ever worked with getting security bugs fixed.
Unfortunately because security issues tend to happen behind the scenes, people often get the illusion bugs get fixed really fast.
Well, no, you're not a little paranoid. You are fscking-gone-nuts-paranoid.
It's been said bazillion times here in slashdot when the feature was first announced and I will repead bazillionth and first time:
There's nothing malicious that can be done with prefetching that could not be done with 1x1 image or hidden IFrame. There are lots of beneficial things that it can do that they cant.
Get it?
It all makes sense.
But if Opera builds a better browser (and in a lot of ways, they have -- witness their domination of the embedded market) they'll get paid in cash.
Myself and many others would pay even more than they charge if I could see some fucking source code. Until then I won't even consider it.
So you already sent your $100 donation to the Mozilla project, then?
The Web is like Usenet, but
the elephants are untrained.
Pizza and Sushi are probably the case actually.
You can't grep a dead tree.