He's complaining that the screenshots aren't very different?
I'm pretty certain that he actually gets to run the Longhorn beta. The screenies are just for the benefit of the mildly curious. The hardcore Windows zealots^Waddicts can get access through various channels to the public longhorn beta builds.
I put it to you that most problems in soceity stem from people genuinely not caring. Just imagine how great things would be if everybody cared. There would be less corruption, less waste, and much more happiness. I guess I'm suggesting that utopia is a world where everybody cares.
Just today I saw an advert on TV for a credit card. It offered random prizes for it's customers. This is farcical - they make so much money that they can give it back to customers in order to entice more customers and make more money. People just don't care enough to look past such shallow incentives and stop giving their lives away to the various banks, corporations, and governments that rape and pillage the world, it's land, it's creatures, and it's people.
If we all carried the same devotion to good cause that RMS does, the world would be a much better place.
"It sounds to me like your friends don't have an addiction problem... They want to forego stuff that is important but hard in favor of stuff that is entertaining and easy."
Just exactly what do you think addiction is? I would suggest that your description of a self-discipline problem is actually a summary of addiction. Going with what is 'entertaining and easy' is the path to addiction. Do you think people do heroine because it hurts and makes them feel bad or because it feels great and makes the rest of their problems feel insignificant?
Well, this pretty much holds true for most large open source efforts. Just sub $PROJECT:
"Sheesh, for as hard as the $PROJECT authors work, and for as much $PROJECT has improved in the last 10 years, the contributers sure get a lot of flak. Anyone who doesn't contribute code themselves should be greatful (or at least appreciative) of their efforts, even when they do make mistakes."
You take the usage of the word 'fork' far too seriously. He means that the codebase should be forked, so that Gnome 2.x and Gnome 3 development can continue in parallel. I hardly think Havoc Pennington is suggesting the community makes an official split in a vein similar to Goneme. (I always found the 'Gone' in Goneme to be somewhat amusing.)
Forking code does not imply the political structures have to fork too. In this case a fork would just be an internal tool for constraining Gnome 3 development away from further Gnome 2 releases.
That's not very fair, you so know Will Smith never read the book so how was he supposed to know what he's talking about?
Judging a movie according to how the actors describe their roles and the movies roots is like judging somebody's driving by how they describe themselves as a driver. Really, few people are aware of or will admit to being a bad driver, yet most of us are.
Erm, Darcs works. That's the point, these things already exist and work - not ideally but that could be rapidly addressed with the right focus and attention.
You say 'until Darcs or anything else is complete' yet Git is a work-in-progress, making your statement a contradiction. Git is butt-ugly because it's a hack and incomplete.
I'd go as far as to say that really Linus has been irresponsible here by starting Git.
Git is a hack to suit his needs, which is fine. But Git is pulling in all this publicity and development time from other people - there is basically a team of developers hacking on this hack of an SCM while more proven and mature solution (years in the making) which are only a little bit of dedication away from being ready to host a project as large as Linux are struggling to accomodate Git rather than focus on their (few) shortcomings.
A good example is Darcs. When this BK storm came about, the author David Roundy started on an efficiency crusade because the main obstacle to Darcs being an effective SCM for Linux was it's performance. This resulted in a number of improvements (due in the next release) and brought Darcs most of the way to being suitable for hosting the Linux source (it's distributed, easy to use, easy to merge). But now this whole Git thing has pulled everybody in different directions and recent list discussion is focused on how to accomodate Git as the backend storage mechanism for files even though it's really totally unsuited to the Darcs SCM methodology.
If Linus had said, "Well we're ditching BK as soon as possible. I want to use either Foo or Bar but needs X and Y in them addressing first." This would have brought about the necessary improvements without this Git diversion which may turn out to be permanent to the detriment of general progress.
He could have gone with Darcs or Monotone or even Arch and brought about their emergence as great distributed SCM tools. Instead he spent days - even weeks - hacking on Git and coordinating things through Git with manual merging. So he's wasted a lot of his own time and the time of others [hacking the hack] for the sake of creating something home grown rather than adopting something that was close to being an adequate replacement for BitKeeper.
Whilst I'd like to believe that this was a decision made on moral grounds, with a belief that a patent-free software world would be a more innovative one, I struggle to accept that this is anything more than a good economic strategy - including embracing open source software.
Do Indian companies really invest in patents on a scale similar to American or European companies? I doubt it. By eliminating software patents, India paves the way to preventing foreign companies from exploiting their software-related patents.
And open source software can be better rooted and supported in India. Why give the money to foreign companies for large volumes of license fees when you can be paying your own people to implement solutions that already exist. Short of an Indian company developing an operating systems, open source software is the best choice for keeping software-related expenditure within the Indian economy.
You forgot step 0; acquire lots of capital to patent lots of ideas. Which is why patents suck, because they don't protect the innovators like they're supposed to. They just provide another way to make the rich richer.
Notice how there's never any/. stories describing how some independent inventor prevented a large corporation from stealing his/her innovation without compensation?
Patents are an outdated concept. These days the only industry patents are relevant to (in a practical sense) is the drugs industry where R&D costs are high. All other industries could simply make back their R&D costs back by being first to market.
Still, whilst the fate of the world is in the hands of the wealthy, patents will be used to keep the little guy down and make the big guy bigger.
Well there's a growing number of people/projects using things like Darcs, GNU Arch, Monotone, and the various other source control projects that have been developed quietly but thoughtfully in the background.
You should do a bit more research if you think that Subversion is the only alternative to BitKeeper and CVS. I'd argue that it's not even the best alternative!
I think the point others are making is that they are aware of the shortcomings of MySQL and take them along with the benefits. If you're developing production applications with MySQL you should be aware of and experienced with the gotchas - not just of MySQL, but all the tools you are using - that might trip up an inexperienced developer.
If you write an application that falls foul of the various issues you just raised and any others that you are aware of, then it's not really the integrity of the database software that you should be questioning.
That's such an abuse of the word 'truly'. How can something fake be true? Even if it's a live shot with a webcam creating the transparency effect, it's just just an effect and not TRUE transparency.
We're pretty awesome at binge drinking too, y'know!
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I'm looking foward to 2.12 as well. However, it does use a lot of 'new' technology so I wouldn't be surprised if Gnome settles down around 2.14, and how ironic that will be... (get it? 2nd 1.4?)
That's because the new file dialog used an API not compatable with the old one, so it had to be a different widget (keeping the old one for backwards compatability). When the applications' developers catch up with Gtk 2.4, you'll see the file dialog situation unify again.
Given that many developers are volunteers, and that many wanted to wait to see it settle down as a widget, I don't think it's unreasonable to give people a little bit of time (like a year or two) to get their apps up to speed.
Some apps *cough* GnuCash *cough* are still actively developed in Gtk1! The fact that some Gtk2 apps are not on the bleeding edge of Gtk2 is hardly surprising.
They're not expecting most average sellers to, but rather hoping that people like you who don't even RTFS (Summary), let alone legislation, will pay up and make them some free money.
And in the interest of high standards, it's rIdiculous. That has to be one of the most mispelt words on Slashdot.
Just because the original was released twelve years ago doesn't mean everybody played it. I know your sarcasm was an attempt to be funny but not everybody watches or plays something when it comes out, especially if they were just a youngster when it was originally released.
What if you wanted to watch a movie that was released a decade ago? Would you be pissed if somebody gave away the twist in conversation with you just because it was that old.
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He's complaining that the screenshots aren't very different?
I'm pretty certain that he actually gets to run the Longhorn beta. The screenies are just for the benefit of the mildly curious. The hardcore Windows zealots^Waddicts can get access through various channels to the public longhorn beta builds.
I put it to you that most problems in soceity stem from people genuinely not caring. Just imagine how great things would be if everybody cared. There would be less corruption, less waste, and much more happiness. I guess I'm suggesting that utopia is a world where everybody cares.
Just today I saw an advert on TV for a credit card. It offered random prizes for it's customers. This is farcical - they make so much money that they can give it back to customers in order to entice more customers and make more money. People just don't care enough to look past such shallow incentives and stop giving their lives away to the various banks, corporations, and governments that rape and pillage the world, it's land, it's creatures, and it's people.
If we all carried the same devotion to good cause that RMS does, the world would be a much better place.
More likely it'll be C64...
"It sounds to me like your friends don't have an addiction problem... They want to forego stuff that is important but hard in favor of stuff that is entertaining and easy."
Just exactly what do you think addiction is? I would suggest that your description of a self-discipline problem is actually a summary of addiction. Going with what is 'entertaining and easy' is the path to addiction. Do you think people do heroine because it hurts and makes them feel bad or because it feels great and makes the rest of their problems feel insignificant?
Well, this pretty much holds true for most large open source efforts. Just sub $PROJECT:
"Sheesh, for as hard as the $PROJECT authors work, and for as much $PROJECT has improved in the last 10 years, the contributers sure get a lot of flak. Anyone who doesn't contribute code themselves should be greatful (or at least appreciative) of their efforts, even when they do make mistakes."
You take the usage of the word 'fork' far too seriously. He means that the codebase should be forked, so that Gnome 2.x and Gnome 3 development can continue in parallel. I hardly think Havoc Pennington is suggesting the community makes an official split in a vein similar to Goneme. (I always found the 'Gone' in Goneme to be somewhat amusing.)
Forking code does not imply the political structures have to fork too. In this case a fork would just be an internal tool for constraining Gnome 3 development away from further Gnome 2 releases.
That's not very fair, you so know Will Smith never read the book so how was he supposed to know what he's talking about?
Judging a movie according to how the actors describe their roles and the movies roots is like judging somebody's driving by how they describe themselves as a driver. Really, few people are aware of or will admit to being a bad driver, yet most of us are.
Erm, Darcs works. That's the point, these things already exist and work - not ideally but that could be rapidly addressed with the right focus and attention.
You say 'until Darcs or anything else is complete' yet Git is a work-in-progress, making your statement a contradiction. Git is butt-ugly because it's a hack and incomplete.
I'd go as far as to say that really Linus has been irresponsible here by starting Git.
Git is a hack to suit his needs, which is fine. But Git is pulling in all this publicity and development time from other people - there is basically a team of developers hacking on this hack of an SCM while more proven and mature solution (years in the making) which are only a little bit of dedication away from being ready to host a project as large as Linux are struggling to accomodate Git rather than focus on their (few) shortcomings.
A good example is Darcs. When this BK storm came about, the author David Roundy started on an efficiency crusade because the main obstacle to Darcs being an effective SCM for Linux was it's performance. This resulted in a number of improvements (due in the next release) and brought Darcs most of the way to being suitable for hosting the Linux source (it's distributed, easy to use, easy to merge). But now this whole Git thing has pulled everybody in different directions and recent list discussion is focused on how to accomodate Git as the backend storage mechanism for files even though it's really totally unsuited to the Darcs SCM methodology.
If Linus had said, "Well we're ditching BK as soon as possible. I want to use either Foo or Bar but needs X and Y in them addressing first." This would have brought about the necessary improvements without this Git diversion which may turn out to be permanent to the detriment of general progress.
He could have gone with Darcs or Monotone or even Arch and brought about their emergence as great distributed SCM tools. Instead he spent days - even weeks - hacking on Git and coordinating things through Git with manual merging. So he's wasted a lot of his own time and the time of others [hacking the hack] for the sake of creating something home grown rather than adopting something that was close to being an adequate replacement for BitKeeper.
Great men don't always make great choices.
Microsoft India is hardly an independent Indian company.
Whilst I'd like to believe that this was a decision made on moral grounds, with a belief that a patent-free software world would be a more innovative one, I struggle to accept that this is anything more than a good economic strategy - including embracing open source software.
Do Indian companies really invest in patents on a scale similar to American or European companies? I doubt it. By eliminating software patents, India paves the way to preventing foreign companies from exploiting their software-related patents.
And open source software can be better rooted and supported in India. Why give the money to foreign companies for large volumes of license fees when you can be paying your own people to implement solutions that already exist. Short of an Indian company developing an operating systems, open source software is the best choice for keeping software-related expenditure within the Indian economy.
Try Widelands.
"I'm sure Neanderthals viewed the last evolutionary change in humans as a crisis"
...and invent sport ...and Profit!
What are you talking about? Never seen rugby or american football on TV?
1. Let humans evolve...
2.
3. Neanderthals play lots of sport...
4.
You forgot step 0; acquire lots of capital to patent lots of ideas. Which is why patents suck, because they don't protect the innovators like they're supposed to. They just provide another way to make the rich richer.
/. stories describing how some independent inventor prevented a large corporation from stealing his/her innovation without compensation?
Notice how there's never any
Patents are an outdated concept. These days the only industry patents are relevant to (in a practical sense) is the drugs industry where R&D costs are high. All other industries could simply make back their R&D costs back by being first to market.
Still, whilst the fate of the world is in the hands of the wealthy, patents will be used to keep the little guy down and make the big guy bigger.
Well there's a growing number of people/projects using things like Darcs, GNU Arch, Monotone, and the various other source control projects that have been developed quietly but thoughtfully in the background.
You should do a bit more research if you think that Subversion is the only alternative to BitKeeper and CVS. I'd argue that it's not even the best alternative!
You might also consider Darcs, whose website also keeps a copy of the Linux source in a repo.
It's decentralized and all that jazz. A darcs repo is hosted over http (or ssh) so it doesn't impose much in terms of hosting requirements.
The only downside is perhaps that it's written in Haskell and that some distros don't have great support for the Haskell packages Darcs needs.
"...nobody would be able to make a living writing software (bad)."
What rubbish!
I make a living programming free software! People pay me to implement features and apps that they want!
A better statement would be that 'nobody would be able to make billions writing software (both good and bad)'.
I think the point others are making is that they are aware of the shortcomings of MySQL and take them along with the benefits. If you're developing production applications with MySQL you should be aware of and experienced with the gotchas - not just of MySQL, but all the tools you are using - that might trip up an inexperienced developer.
If you write an application that falls foul of the various issues you just raised and any others that you are aware of, then it's not really the integrity of the database software that you should be questioning.
That's such an abuse of the word 'truly'. How can something fake be true? Even if it's a live shot with a webcam creating the transparency effect, it's just just an effect and not TRUE transparency.
We're pretty awesome at binge drinking too, y'know!
I'm looking foward to 2.12 as well. However, it does use a lot of 'new' technology so I wouldn't be surprised if Gnome settles down around 2.14, and how ironic that will be... (get it? 2nd 1.4?)
That's because the new file dialog used an API not compatable with the old one, so it had to be a different widget (keeping the old one for backwards compatability). When the applications' developers catch up with Gtk 2.4, you'll see the file dialog situation unify again.
Given that many developers are volunteers, and that many wanted to wait to see it settle down as a widget, I don't think it's unreasonable to give people a little bit of time (like a year or two) to get their apps up to speed.
Some apps *cough* GnuCash *cough* are still actively developed in Gtk1! The fact that some Gtk2 apps are not on the bleeding edge of Gtk2 is hardly surprising.
If you're using Gaim, try the GUIfications plugin. You'll never miss a message again.
They're not expecting most average sellers to, but rather hoping that people like you who don't even RTFS (Summary), let alone legislation, will pay up and make them some free money.
And in the interest of high standards, it's rIdiculous. That has to be one of the most mispelt words on Slashdot.
Just because the original was released twelve years ago doesn't mean everybody played it. I know your sarcasm was an attempt to be funny but not everybody watches or plays something when it comes out, especially if they were just a youngster when it was originally released.
What if you wanted to watch a movie that was released a decade ago? Would you be pissed if somebody gave away the twist in conversation with you just because it was that old.