Cher and the material girl have used them on stage for a while. We use to joke about how Paula Abdul did 1 album without it. Her last. (Yes, that was album, not performance.) Face it, these are visual performances, not music performances. If you aren't there for the lights, dancing or atmosphere, then you are being ripped off.
I don't know what your school is like (and I would consider such things on a school by school basis) but I know my brother was once accused of hacking when he showed his employer that you can get through windows 95's password prompt by clicking cancel. I'm guess the network admin didn't want to admit to having been so inept.
Can some one post the source code for a recent SCO released Linux kernel available on the net. Specifically I'm looking for someone who gotten permission from SCO to use Linux since they bought it from them.
Stop me if you know where I'm going with this. I'm not a laywer but here goes. SCO said their customers where covered on the IP issues. These customers obtained the kernel from SCO under GPL and should be able to obtain the source too. (Otherwise SCO is in violation of the GPL and is liable to everyone who's ever contributed to the kernel.)
Now these customers should be able to distribute the same kernel under the same licensing condition that they got it, the GPL. (Otherwise, and SCO is in violation.)
Now suppose one of these customers make this kernel available to some like, oh say, Linus. Then perhaps Linus (for show) creates a patch that applies his more recent changes to the kernel provided by the SCO customer, thus making the latest Linux a legal derivative of the Legal source provided but the SCO customer.
Now repeat this for any other version of the kernel you want to make legal.
OK, now this doesn't cover the latest changes to the 2.5 series that SCO thinks they own, but it would at least sterilize anything that SCO has sold. Any obvious loophole I'm missing?
Nobody said common answers needed to be correct. It doesn't get quite as far, but it gets there in half the time.
Dan
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In case someone was actually going to stay online in Iraq to provide reports, don't. I'm as curious as the next guy, but don't feed the vultures. We will have time to learn what happened. Don't risk your life needlessly.
I think I completely diagree with you. If this is analogous to using roads, then you should get a toll anytime somebody drives to your house. They turn around in your driveway, you get billed.
I'd say it's more like a phone. I don't want to be billed for every wrong number I get. (I get a lot for some reason.) I know that some places get billed this way, but I still don't think it's right. If some jerk posts you phone number in the wrong bathroom or some such thing, you'd get hammered and you couldn't do anything about it except disconnect your phone. I don't advocate billing the packet sender on the internet, but it is fairer than billing the receiver.
Unfortunately, I did not pay and cannot view, but I was curious if something like this might violate license agreements of third parties who's software may be installed on the machine. If so, is it the end user's fault for not protecting the data better or Microsoft's fault for violating the user's trust?
I'd be lying if I said that the lack of salary along with my employer not wanting to share me was not the only reason I'm not applying. That aside, how is this any different (or rather worse) than the small game companies that effectively start with some guy or guys in a bedroom (or their parent's basement) hacking away until they have a game they think they can sell. In previous days I would think of Origin Systems. In more recent years need only look at the games on my desk and see Introversion's Uplink. Every startup has risk. Frankly, in the case of the LGP scheme, if they make a killer game, the return is almost guarentteed. That is better odds than any game startup gets.
If anything, LGP is offering a sweet situation for a group of developers to try to make something special. I would guess LGP also wants to get 'The Right People' to make a cool game that might just put Linux on the radar of the gaming mainstream.
I went to Ohio State as a CIS student and worked as a sys admin there. They had a great program and I feel one of the best parts was that it was very UNIX centric. You got a better feel for the technical details of how the system and the software would interact as well as how flexable software can be. I can't believe they will be able to conveniently setup all of the tools on an MS client for the students to play with. Varients of any programming language you could dream of, code libraries and research code all accessable and usable from any client.
We also has a pretty slick setup to manage the desktops and servers in a fairly stable and efficient manner while still proving researchers the flexibility they needed.
I heard about MS software creeping into the evenironment more after I left, and they kept having problems with grads getting (and abusing) more authority than they knew what to do with on the NT machines. They will never be able to come up with anything as slick as the diskless client setup we had for UNIX. If a workstation did get hosed, we could rebuild it remotely and have the user reboot and up in under 5 minutes. Hardware could be swapped just as easily without changing the client's software, but it took long since someone had to carry the machine to the office.
I hope OSU isn't going to kill their CIS dept. I had been considering going back for another degree.
Funny. We don't trust biometrics in the airports or on the street. We always say that any security mechnism can be circumvented. I know I hate it when something is arbitrarily crippled in some way, when a sufficiently skilled person could re-enable the crippled feature.
I'm not sure I trust any technonlogy to alway identify me and never identify anyone else. I'm not sure I wouldn't want it to identify family. Being that no such technology has been proven yet makes me think we'll get a rush job.
I would bet that it will be easier to disable this than it is to make full automatic. I'm sure it will be easier than cracking CSS or DES.
I think I would like to be able to hand my gun (if I had one) to say my brother or wife if someone were breaking in and I was require to do something else.
Lastly, I'd like to know why I should be content with this technology when law enforcement doesn't even trust it enough to use it.
Can you give specifics? This sounds beautiful and wonderful, but I have never heard an arguement like this that ever came with a plausible set of steps for achieving anything.
It would seem that our supporting of other countries is why we are blaimed for 'bringing this on ourselves". Either we helped 'the bad guys' or we pissed off the 'bad guys' by helping their enemies.
It is pretty sad to see the blatant privacy violation, but I think it's but pretty well suspected the federal agents of some form or another were monitoring all communications anyhow. (Was it echelon?) I won't pretend to understand how credit card companies word to claim I've ever liked them.
As far as New Yorkers being unpleasant to Arabs, I've heard a number of arguments justifying minorities hating the majorities and even Arabs hating the US/West/etc. It may be unpleasant, but the New Yorkers I think have as much of a reason to be irrational and emotional. The event that took place last year qualifies as more than mere vandalism after all. They (and all Americans) have a reason to feel they've been attacked.
For that matter, I know someone (who's identity I won't disclose since I'm expressing and unpopular view) who works in a factory with a number of legal Arabic aliens. When news came in a year ago that the Towers were attacked and came down killing up to 10K people (the initial estimate) these coworkers started cheering, dancing, singing praises God/Allah, etc. Frankly, such a grotesque display of blood lust and hatred is liable to trigger more of the same. It actually sounds like it was traumatic for some of the people who had to watch this display.
Why are American's the only ones faulted for this? I've heard of several like displays in the US. I have not heard of any condemnation of it. Only justifications.
Americans could try to be as nice and as introspective as possible, but that won't change the fact that they would still be facing enemies are are not as nice or introspective. Enemies who would use these qualities as a weapon to further attack America. That is frustrating to say the least.
Vigorous condemnations of Americans are loud and many. It would seem that few or none who offer such ridicule are condemning the acts that took place a year ago with anywhere near the same vigor or persistence. It tarnishes the appearance of any altruistic, humanitarian motives behind the criticism.
I am sorry when people take out their anger on those who don't deserve it and when innocent people are hurt in wars of ideology, but I am also sick to death of idea that Americans are the only ones guilty of these sins and sick of the double standard it represents. Yes, understanding is a two way street, but there aren't many people traveling in either direction.
I've found that Microsoft tends to make a barely functional replacement of an existing product and then uses their other already well entrenched monopolies to tilt the playing field to their advantage. They create artificial conditions that force venders to black ball a competitor or else they make the use of a given competing product so complicated for users that they surrender and use the MS replacement. They rarely provide a practical solution. They merely remove any other practical solutions and leave the user with only their decreed solution.
This is a pretty basic situation in my mind. You are an administrator providing service to youir users. You're supervisor is your superior. You have apretty back and white case. The authority that allow's the users to infect their machines, and the use of P2P can negatively affect the ability to provide any servise to the users. The P2P could also bring sever (and draconian) consequences down upon the school. He needs to write (or atleast ok) policies that will enable you to correct these situations or else he has to state that it is user's responsibility to deal with this.
If your supervisor is ok with what your users are doing, then you have to accept that as policy and the users have to live with the impact. The questionable legality does give you a trump to bring up in potentially awkward situations. FUD is FUD, but it isn't always a lie.
Does this scare anyone else, even a little? I mean I'm all for learning to terraform Mars, but Earth? Not everybody can even agree if the warning is a part of a natural cycle or not. Shouldn't those who believe that Man is responsible for the dramatic change in weather really ought to be concerned with the implications of us trying to make a designer atmosphere? Those who don't believe we are responsible for it ought to be concerned because now we're trying. At the very least, lets get another planet oxygenated before we start playing with the only one we've got.
How do you see Open Source? Is Open Source a fad or is it stable way of doing business? If it's a fad, what will it take to replace or overshadow Open Source?
If it is stable, will Open Source become the dominant way of doing business? If not, how will Open Source fit in with current ways of doing business in the software industry?
I haven't got too many games yet, but heretic 2 was surprising a good 3rd person 3D game (though it was quite tomb raider). I have fallen in love with Terminus. It has had quite a bit of replay-ability for me. (Might be why I haven't bought much else lately.) Heavy was OK, but I want to hold out for a fast machine to really judge it. (I want to hold out for a faster machine to waste lot of time on Terminus too.) I've have Descent 3 and it looks cool, but I am going to have to hold out for the faster machine for that one.
I plan to buy Uplink soon. A cool game that ISN'T 3D or RTS for Linux! I must have it! I also plan on getting DEUS EX and Aftermath when they come out.
I was going to subscribe to Transgaming, but in the last second I asked them about the SafeDisk stuff and if they would be willing to include things that could never be released to the Wine project no matter how much money they made. They said they would use Open Source alternative when they exist, but that they would consider Closed Source in cases when they couldn't release the code for something. It's a shame. I'll fund future Open Source work, but I will not fund future Closed Source work. (Yes, I buy Closed Source software, but Closed Source Subscriptions just seem worse to me. I won't do it.)
For now I'm going to have to wait on a new power supply while playing Terminus. (Did mention that I REALLY like Terminus? It's a really great game. They need to make a part 2 with more player customization, user made campaigns on the server, in atmosphere flight, player run corporations,...)
I have two issues with Michael's editorial comments. First, the analogy of the mugging fails in a critical way. The "compromise" between the mugger and the old lady over the ownership rights of her purse assumes the purse was her's to begin with. In terms of copyright, the copyright owner own the information the copyright is the copying restriction he requires before he will share his information. Basic the copyright owner owns a 'secret' and get to decide under what terms he'll share. To be the mugger the copyright holder would have to be the recieve and not the provider.
The second issue is that the copyright is STILL a compromise between the reciever of a copyright work and the procuder of said work. The compromise is a matter of what copyright owners (or those who intend to produce copyright works) and those who demand said works, on what rights the producer requires/demands before he will share or develop a work. If I don't have enough rights over the works I produce to make a living off of them, I'll have to go into a different line of business.
There is the issue of how one sided the laws involved are. I'd be inclined to say things are grossly out of balance, but if people continue to buy such works and if people do not protest the laws passed by their elected officials then it is really hard to make the argument that the public is upset about the balance of the compromise.
People have the right to bitch and very few people are doing so. Either the public is content, stupid or have no say. In America we cannot get away with claiming we have no say. Frankly I get very insulted by the way some politicians claim to do something for our own good as if I don't know what is good for me, so I really have a problem with presuming most or all Americans stupid. On the other hand, I can't imagine why people would be content with the state of copyright laws. Either the public is content or general unaffected.
One IT group where I work used to got out every friday to a local pub. My group doesn't but I do hang out with some folks I've worked with.
For that matter, I know some firefighters and cops who don't do the group picnic thing. There probably is a tighter bond between folks who have actually risked their lives together though. I've seen it with military folks too.
Also, on TV they would have much of a show it everyone was anti-social. They might have too much of a show if they had to introduce the coworkers, drinking buddies, old friends, spouce's friends, kids' friends, etc. etc. etc. for every major character. It's easier if they are all buddies and we won't need so many extras.
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Cher and the material girl have used them on stage for a while. We use to joke about how Paula Abdul did 1 album without it. Her last. (Yes, that was album, not performance.) Face it, these are visual performances, not music performances. If you aren't there for the lights, dancing or atmosphere, then you are being ripped off.
Dan
I don't know what your school is like (and I would consider such things on a school by school basis) but I know my brother was once accused of hacking when he showed his employer that you can get through windows 95's password prompt by clicking cancel. I'm guess the network admin didn't want to admit to having been so inept.
Edd
Can some one post the source code for a recent SCO released Linux kernel available on the net. Specifically I'm looking for someone who gotten permission from SCO to use Linux since they bought it from them.
Stop me if you know where I'm going with this. I'm not a laywer but here goes. SCO said their customers where covered on the IP issues. These customers obtained the kernel from SCO under GPL and should be able to obtain the source too. (Otherwise SCO is in violation of the GPL and is liable to everyone who's ever contributed to the kernel.)
Now these customers should be able to distribute the same kernel under the same licensing condition that they got it, the GPL. (Otherwise, and SCO is in violation.)
Now suppose one of these customers make this kernel available to some like, oh say, Linus. Then perhaps Linus (for show) creates a patch that applies his more recent changes to the kernel provided by the SCO customer, thus making the latest Linux a legal derivative of the Legal source provided but the SCO customer.
Now repeat this for any other version of the kernel you want to make legal.
OK, now this doesn't cover the latest changes to the 2.5 series that SCO thinks they own, but it would at least sterilize anything that SCO has sold. Any obvious loophole I'm missing?
Edd
I can't help ya with Pi, but how's this?
a = b
a^2 = ab
a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2
(a+b)(a-b) = b(a-b)
a + b = b
b + b = b
2b = b
2 = 1
2 - 1 = 1 - 1
1 = 0
With some repetition, you could get the 10 = 27 one too.
Nobody said common answers needed to be correct. It doesn't get quite as far, but it gets there in half the time.
Dan
In case someone was actually going to stay online in Iraq to provide reports, don't. I'm as curious as the next guy, but don't feed the vultures. We will have time to learn what happened. Don't risk your life needlessly.
Much of the world is praying for you.
BUYAH!
I think I completely diagree with you. If this is analogous to using roads, then you should get a toll anytime somebody drives to your house. They turn around in your driveway, you get billed.
I'd say it's more like a phone. I don't want to be billed for every wrong number I get. (I get a lot for some reason.) I know that some places get billed this way, but I still don't think it's right. If some jerk posts you phone number in the wrong bathroom or some such thing, you'd get hammered and you couldn't do anything about it except disconnect your phone. I don't advocate billing the packet sender on the internet, but it is fairer than billing the receiver.
Edd
Unfortunately, I did not pay and cannot view, but I was curious if something like this might violate license agreements of third parties who's software may be installed on the machine. If so, is it the end user's fault for not protecting the data better or Microsoft's fault for violating the user's trust?
:-)
I trust I'll get sound legal advice.
Edd
I'd be lying if I said that the lack of salary along with my employer not wanting to share me was not the only reason I'm not applying. That aside, how is this any different (or rather worse) than the small game companies that effectively start with some guy or guys in a bedroom (or their parent's basement) hacking away until they have a game they think they can sell. In previous days I would think of Origin Systems. In more recent years need only look at the games on my desk and see Introversion's Uplink. Every startup has risk. Frankly, in the case of the LGP scheme, if they make a killer game, the return is almost guarentteed. That is better odds than any game startup gets.
If anything, LGP is offering a sweet situation for a group of developers to try to make something special. I would guess LGP also wants to get 'The Right People' to make a cool game that might just put Linux on the radar of the gaming mainstream.
I've been playing it for over a month. You can use the virtual resort data files. You might need to use windows to unpack them.
I went to Ohio State as a CIS student and worked as a sys admin there. They had a great program and I feel one of the best parts was that it was very UNIX centric. You got a better feel for the technical details of how the system and the software would interact as well as how flexable software can be. I can't believe they will be able to conveniently setup all of the tools on an MS client for the students to play with. Varients of any programming language you could dream of, code libraries and research code all accessable and usable from any client.
We also has a pretty slick setup to manage the desktops and servers in a fairly stable and efficient manner while still proving researchers the flexibility they needed.
I heard about MS software creeping into the evenironment more after I left, and they kept having problems with grads getting (and abusing) more authority than they knew what to do with on the NT machines. They will never be able to come up with anything as slick as the diskless client setup we had for UNIX. If a workstation did get hosed, we could rebuild it remotely and have the user reboot and up in under 5 minutes. Hardware could be swapped just as easily without changing the client's software, but it took long since someone had to carry the machine to the office.
I hope OSU isn't going to kill their CIS dept. I had been considering going back for another degree.
Funny. We don't trust biometrics in the airports or on the street. We always say that any security mechnism can be circumvented. I know I hate it when something is arbitrarily crippled in some way, when a sufficiently skilled person could re-enable the crippled feature.
I'm not sure I trust any technonlogy to alway identify me and never identify anyone else. I'm not sure I wouldn't want it to identify family. Being that no such technology has been proven yet makes me think we'll get a rush job.
I would bet that it will be easier to disable this than it is to make full automatic. I'm sure it will be easier than cracking CSS or DES.
I think I would like to be able to hand my gun (if I had one) to say my brother or wife if someone were breaking in and I was require to do something else.
Lastly, I'd like to know why I should be content with this technology when law enforcement doesn't even trust it enough to use it.
You know what I get for Christmas? The pager. I have to give it back on January 1st. Merry Christmas
"I told ya so! But ya didn't believe me! Why didn't you believe me??!?"
Can you give specifics? This sounds beautiful and wonderful, but I have never heard an arguement like this that ever came with a plausible set of steps for achieving anything.
It would seem that our supporting of other countries is why we are blaimed for 'bringing this on ourselves". Either we helped 'the bad guys' or we pissed off the 'bad guys' by helping their enemies.
Dan
It is pretty sad to see the blatant privacy violation, but I think it's but pretty well suspected the federal agents of some form or another were monitoring all communications anyhow. (Was it echelon?) I won't pretend to understand how credit card companies word to claim I've ever liked them.
As far as New Yorkers being unpleasant to Arabs, I've heard a number of arguments justifying minorities hating the majorities and even Arabs hating the US/West/etc. It may be unpleasant, but the New Yorkers I think have as much of a reason to be irrational and emotional. The event that took place last year qualifies as more than mere vandalism after all. They (and all Americans) have a reason to feel they've been attacked.
For that matter, I know someone (who's identity I won't disclose since I'm expressing and unpopular view) who works in a factory with a number of legal Arabic aliens. When news came in a year ago that the Towers were attacked and came down killing up to 10K people (the initial estimate) these coworkers started cheering, dancing, singing praises God/Allah, etc. Frankly, such a grotesque display of blood lust and hatred is liable to trigger more of the same. It actually sounds like it was traumatic for some of the people who had to watch this display.
Why are American's the only ones faulted for this? I've heard of several like displays in the US. I have not heard of any condemnation of it. Only justifications.
Americans could try to be as nice and as introspective as possible, but that won't change the fact that they would still be facing enemies are are not as nice or introspective. Enemies who would use these qualities as a weapon to further attack America. That is frustrating to say the least.
Vigorous condemnations of Americans are loud and many. It would seem that few or none who offer such ridicule are condemning the acts that took place a year ago with anywhere near the same vigor or persistence. It tarnishes the appearance of any altruistic, humanitarian motives behind the criticism.
I am sorry when people take out their anger on those who don't deserve it and when innocent people are hurt in wars of ideology, but I am also sick to death of idea that Americans are the only ones guilty of these sins and sick of the double standard it represents. Yes, understanding is a two way street, but there aren't many people traveling in either direction.
Dan
I've found that Microsoft tends to make a barely functional replacement of an existing product and then uses their other already well entrenched monopolies to tilt the playing field to their advantage. They create artificial conditions that force venders to black ball a competitor or else they make the use of a given competing product so complicated for users that they surrender and use the MS replacement. They rarely provide a practical solution. They merely remove any other practical solutions and leave the user with only their decreed solution.
This is a pretty basic situation in my mind. You are an administrator providing service to youir users. You're supervisor is your superior. You have apretty back and white case. The authority that allow's the users to infect their machines, and the use of P2P can negatively affect the ability to provide any servise to the users. The P2P could also bring sever (and draconian) consequences down upon the school. He needs to write (or atleast ok) policies that will enable you to correct these situations or else he has to state that it is user's responsibility to deal with this.
If your supervisor is ok with what your users are doing, then you have to accept that as policy and the users have to live with the impact. The questionable legality does give you a trump to bring up in potentially awkward situations. FUD is FUD, but it isn't always a lie.
Edd
Does this scare anyone else, even a little? I mean I'm all for learning to terraform Mars, but Earth? Not everybody can even agree if the warning is a part of a natural cycle or not. Shouldn't those who believe that Man is responsible for the dramatic change in weather really ought to be concerned with the implications of us trying to make a designer atmosphere? Those who don't believe we are responsible for it ought to be concerned because now we're trying. At the very least, lets get another planet oxygenated before we start playing with the only one we've got.
Edd
I'm on Slashdot. Does that make me a Zealot or knowledgeable in all technical fields?
In response to the Sig, it ought to be prettier. It's the least they could do since you'll be seeing a lot of it.
Dan
How do you see Open Source? Is Open Source a fad or is it stable way of doing business? If it's a fad, what will it take to replace or overshadow Open Source?
If it is stable, will Open Source become the dominant way of doing business? If not, how will Open Source fit in with current ways of doing business in the software industry?
I haven't got too many games yet, but heretic 2 was surprising a good 3rd person 3D game (though it was quite tomb raider). I have fallen in love with Terminus. It has had quite a bit of replay-ability for me. (Might be why I haven't bought much else lately.) Heavy was OK, but I want to hold out for a fast machine to really judge it. (I want to hold out for a faster machine to waste lot of time on Terminus too.) I've have Descent 3 and it looks cool, but I am going to have to hold out for the faster machine for that one.
...)
I plan to buy Uplink soon. A cool game that ISN'T 3D or RTS for Linux! I must have it! I also plan on getting DEUS EX and Aftermath when they come out.
I was going to subscribe to Transgaming, but in the last second I asked them about the SafeDisk stuff and if they would be willing to include things that could never be released to the Wine project no matter how much money they made. They said they would use Open Source alternative when they exist, but that they would consider Closed Source in cases when they couldn't release the code for something. It's a shame. I'll fund future Open Source work, but I will not fund future Closed Source work. (Yes, I buy Closed Source software, but Closed Source Subscriptions just seem worse to me. I won't do it.)
For now I'm going to have to wait on a new power supply while playing Terminus. (Did mention that I REALLY like Terminus? It's a really great game. They need to make a part 2 with more player customization, user made campaigns on the server, in atmosphere flight, player run corporations,
Dan
I have two issues with Michael's editorial comments. First, the analogy of the mugging fails in a critical way. The "compromise" between the mugger and the old lady over the ownership rights of her purse assumes the purse was her's to begin with. In terms of copyright, the copyright owner own the information the copyright is the copying restriction he requires before he will share his information. Basic the copyright owner owns a 'secret' and get to decide under what terms he'll share. To be the mugger the copyright holder would have to be the recieve and not the provider.
The second issue is that the copyright is STILL a compromise between the reciever of a copyright work and the procuder of said work. The compromise is a matter of what copyright owners (or those who intend to produce copyright works) and those who demand said works, on what rights the producer requires/demands before he will share or develop a work. If I don't have enough rights over the works I produce to make a living off of them, I'll have to go into a different line of business.
There is the issue of how one sided the laws involved are. I'd be inclined to say things are grossly out of balance, but if people continue to buy such works and if people do not protest the laws passed by their elected officials then it is really hard to make the argument that the public is upset about the balance of the compromise.
People have the right to bitch and very few people are doing so. Either the public is content, stupid or have no say. In America we cannot get away with claiming we have no say. Frankly I get very insulted by the way some politicians claim to do something for our own good as if I don't know what is good for me, so I really have a problem with presuming most or all Americans stupid. On the other hand, I can't imagine why people would be content with the state of copyright laws. Either the public is content or general unaffected.
Dan
One IT group where I work used to got out every friday to a local pub. My group doesn't but I do hang out with some folks I've worked with.
For that matter, I know some firefighters and cops who don't do the group picnic thing. There probably is a tighter bond between folks who have actually risked their lives together though. I've seen it with military folks too.
Also, on TV they would have much of a show it everyone was anti-social. They might have too much of a show if they had to introduce the coworkers, drinking buddies, old friends, spouce's friends, kids' friends, etc. etc. etc. for every major character. It's easier if they are all buddies and we won't need so many extras.