Hey, nearly half of the stuff that gets posted here goes against my grain.
Slashdot should be blocked then, right?
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> Sun is a name-brand that is conveniently > immune to Microsoft's interference.
Wow, Microsoft should put you on a retainer PDQ.
Sun has spent extraordinary amounts of time, energy and money explaining to juries and judges that they are in fact NOT immune to that interference..mike
Well here's a little ignorant fSck test. You take your java platform, and I'll take my little LAMP pizza box. We're going to create a new virtual host on both and do the "Hello World" exercise on it, mine in php, yours in java.
I'm done.
I'll hold my breath, and you let me know when you're finished.
The entire internet is overrun with these ninnies to boot. Clueless fuckwads with ghants and flow charts and all manner of cheap uberBabble to help keep their puny little jobs doing sweet fuck all with technology they don't understand one iota.
Sad, and it'll get far worse before it gets better.
How could anything good come out of ICANN's involvement in any-fucking-thing?
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Who else, I ask you, could possibly confuse a crap db with a crap dba?
Well, the type of results I mentioned was only to highlight the differences in speed performance between the two. Frankly I like postgres and use it for some stuff, and use mysql for other stuff. I see the gap between mysql and postgres closing as well. MySQL continues to develop its feature-set, and postgres is getting way better speed-wise.
Getting back to the original post though, I doubt either pg or mysql with ever pose a serious threat to the big systems. They may gnaw at them for a bit, but that's about it.
The article mentioned in the original post was a worthless piece of fluff that ended in a doozy of a thread here. Go figure.;)
Don't know where all the FUD comes from, but I/can/ tell you this.
I have a box sitting right here with mysql-4.02 and posgresql-7.2 running on it. Athlon 750,.5g ram, Redhat-7.2. I have the USDA SR14 Nutrient database stored in both. I wrote a small app to pull stuff out of the tables [the main table comprised of about 400k rows, each with a dozen or so fields of mixed types] in a way regular folks could use. I ran a script on both that essentially simulated about 60 concurrent connections, running mostly selects, and finishing off by updating a couple of different type columns in/every/ row.
The mysql port runs great. The psql port runs so slow I didn't bother releasing it.
Not sure where you got your '10% slower' idea from, but I have a real-world case staring me in the face saying mysql is fast and postgres is slow. Noticeably. Visibly. Substantially.
>... every test I've ever done or read in the > last 3 years, postgres is as fast or faster > than MySQL
Do you have a link to any benchmark or paper you've run or read that substantiates this? Just one maybe? Thought not. Hell, even the pg guys know better than to say something so silly.
Seriously, a slow news-day at Bloomberg (read: a lame article with no meat) eq flamewars at slashdot. More rants from anal DBAs scrambling to rationalize their 7 digit budgets. ZZZzzzz.
> Probably still the most damaging as far as I > have experienced... the majority of problems > with viruses i see are users passing on pretty > obvious viruses.. maybe the answer is in the > education rather than the protection
A non-prof arts office a friend volunteers at got wiped out by Nimba in a big way. 4 desktops and a server pooched.
The only reason CNN would write such a story is they're well guarded against the potential damage. Everyone knows CNN doesn't use real computers. They have Compaqs. Viruses _never+ bother with Compaqs.
Slashdot Mirror
Jeez, I'd send you a set, but they all have coffee rings on them.
Of course, I could try and clean them off with one of those shammies SGI sends out (the ones that say "1 Year - $10000 Support Contract" on them.
> I (once again) simply be reinstalling
> everything from scratch?
Well I sure as hell can't get it to upgrade from 7.3. It hangs at the "looking for packages to upgrade".
So good luck. The x.0 series tend to be shit.
That's a riot.
Nice catch.
What would have been really impressive is a detailed well-written HOW-TO.
> No WinNT?
Ew.
Get used to it. Seems playing violent video games does nothing for one's sense of haha.
Try kissing some ass instead.
Hey, nearly half of the stuff that gets posted here goes against my grain.
Slashdot should be blocked then, right?
> Sun is a name-brand that is conveniently
.mike
> immune to Microsoft's interference.
Wow, Microsoft should put you on a retainer PDQ.
Sun has spent extraordinary amounts of time,
energy and money explaining to juries and judges
that they are in fact NOT immune to that
interference.
Sorry for being offensive.
Ok. I'm not sorry.
Obviously, EA still doesn't get it.
Redhat desktop?
What the hell is that?
Next thing you know someone will try and pass windows off as a server or some fool thing.
Dang.
> How do you keep up with the news, then?
That's easy dude. Slashdot of course!!
I mean, what else is there?
It's your "shrunken monkey head" early warning system.
Well here's a little ignorant fSck test.
You take your java platform, and I'll take my little LAMP pizza box. We're going to create a new virtual host on both and do the "Hello World" exercise on it, mine in php, yours in java.
I'm done.
I'll hold my breath, and you let me know when you're finished.
> 1. Mess with WHOIS database
> 2. ?
? = Spam, junkmail, bogus invoice-looking marketing material, extraneous and duplicitous billing, and popup ads.
> 3. Profit
Of course.
> I don't see how wardriving does _not_ lead
> to unethical practices
Wardriving is theft, plain and simple.
Perps should be jailed, plain and simple.
First there were banner ads.
/. the content IS the ad.
.mike
.sigs + $0.95 = Tim Hortons
Then segue ads.
Then there were ads wrapped by content.
Not happy, ads cascaded onto a site
over top the content.
On
How innovative!
Maybe we could get a page full of ads
and a content popunder next, that'd be awesome.
Catchy logins + cool
No kidding.
The entire internet is overrun with these ninnies to boot. Clueless fuckwads with ghants and flow charts and all manner of cheap uberBabble to help keep their puny little jobs doing sweet fuck all with technology they don't understand one iota.
Sad, and it'll get far worse before it gets better.
How could anything good come out of ICANN's involvement in any-fucking-thing?
Who else, I ask you, could possibly confuse a crap db with a crap dba?
:P
Damn postgres guys.
What put things in perpective for me was a book
by Martin J. Rees called "Just Six Numbers : The Deep Forces that Shape the Universe".
We, as a race, have a lot of work to do.
This is news?
Make some stuff up FCOL.
ATI ships 9700Pro's for $99CDN.
Microsoft Releases MSLinux 1.0.
Nortel announces 5-1 stock split.
NY Yankees lost to contraction.
Anything. Jeez.
> mrobinso posted *real* results.
;)
Well, the type of results I mentioned was only to highlight the differences in speed performance between the two. Frankly I like postgres and use it for some stuff, and use mysql for other stuff. I see the gap between mysql and postgres closing as well. MySQL continues to develop its feature-set, and postgres is getting way better speed-wise.
Getting back to the original post though, I doubt either pg or mysql with ever pose a serious threat to the big systems. They may gnaw at them for a bit, but that's about it.
The article mentioned in the original post was a worthless piece of fluff that ended in a doozy of a thread here. Go figure.
Mike
Don't know where all the FUD comes from, but I /can/ tell you this.
.5g ram, Redhat-7.2. I have the USDA SR14 Nutrient database stored in both. I wrote a small app to pull stuff out of the tables [the main table comprised of about 400k rows, each with a dozen or so fields of mixed types] in a way regular folks could use. I ran a script on both that essentially simulated about 60 concurrent connections, running mostly selects, and finishing off by updating a couple of different type columns in /every/ row.
I have a box sitting right here with mysql-4.02 and posgresql-7.2 running on it. Athlon 750,
The mysql port runs great.
The psql port runs so slow I didn't bother releasing it.
Not sure where you got your '10% slower' idea from, but I have a real-world case staring me in the face saying mysql is fast and postgres is slow. Noticeably. Visibly. Substantially.
Benchmark rhetoric + $0.90 = Tim Hortons.
> ... every test I've ever done or read in the
> last 3 years, postgres is as fast or faster
> than MySQL
Do you have a link to any benchmark or paper you've run or read that substantiates this? Just one maybe? Thought not. Hell, even the pg guys know better than to say something so silly.
Seriously, a slow news-day at Bloomberg (read: a lame article with no meat) eq flamewars at slashdot. More rants from anal DBAs scrambling to rationalize their 7 digit budgets. ZZZzzzz.
Let's sum up shall we?
MySQL
Fast. Free. Easy. Lacks features.
PostgreSQL
Slow. Free. Difficult. Better feature set.
Oracle/DB2...
Slow. Expensive. Very difficult. Feature-rich.
There you go.
Grovel for your jobs based on that.
RedHat 8.0?
What, 7.3 isn't broken enough for you?
> it's going to be far more complex,
> graphically, so it wouldn't really be like
> comparing apples to apples.
Maybe its an apples to oranges comparison, just to make sure they're both fruit.
--Bluesnews sure looks horrible in IE6--
The only way it could've been better is if
the link came replete with a popup X10 ad.
Double whammy.
Zephy writes:
> Probably still the most damaging as far as I
> have experienced... the majority of problems
> with viruses i see are users passing on pretty
> obvious viruses.. maybe the answer is in the
> education rather than the protection
A non-prof arts office a friend volunteers at
got wiped out by Nimba in a big way. 4 desktops
and a server pooched.
The only reason CNN would write such a story is
they're well guarded against the potential
damage. Everyone knows CNN doesn't use real
computers. They have Compaqs. Viruses _never+ bother with Compaqs.