A better question would be can I use it to read my E-mail? Who said that all software projects will continue development up until the point where you can use them to read you E-mail?
Good work for gnumeric! Nice, fast, clean and actually useful.
Indeed I do appreciate people being enthousiastic about writing their software, but that's why we have awk. It's the most wonderful scripting langauge ever invented. A couple of examples.
# average: A program for calculating the average of numbers.
| awk '{x+=$0}END{print x/NR}'
# bound: Finds the boundary numbers (min and max) of input
| awk '{if($0<min){min=$0}if($0>max){max=$0}}END{prin t min,max}'
# interval: Shows the numeric intervals between each number in a sequence.
"America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilisation." --Georges Clemenceau 1841-1929) French general and statesman.
Having lived in Paris for a couple of years (didn't really speak French when I came here), this sort of things still makes me laugh.
Some other funny examples.
Footing in French means jogging, it is especially funny since the French think this is what it is called in English. Chewing gum means chewing gum, only you pronounce it as swing gum. Made me laugh this one.
I mean, think what would happen to the English language, if we were to remove all words from French origin. There would be almost no English left.
I don't think we need games to get a lot of people on Linux. I know Microsoft has been investing in the internet communication / collaboration market, for example they bought placeware, a company making software to do slideshow presentations and software demo's over the internet (through IE).
This would be a soo cool killer app for Linux. Internet communication / collaboration tools are hot, and able to convert many a PHB to Linux if you ask me. Games will come later, for me they are more an effect of increased use of Linux on the desktop than a cause.
I know it is the mother of all unholy suggestions given the history of the Gimp and Gnome, but wouldn't it be nice if someone would take all the professional Gimp features and complicated image processing code, and turns it into a really nice, userfriendly, KDE application?
I really like all the Gimp features (kudos to those who gave them to us), but I think much less of the interface.
The basic research has been done and will be done on mouse embryos.
The discovery will hopefully lead to a cell line (originated from only a couple of human embryos, a single time) that can be growed indefinitely and without using chemicals to keep the cells from differentiating.
So yes, there would be no more need for human embryos for "production" of stem cells and it would probably be safer and more reproducible for the patients as well.
I don't care if Alan Guth would have invented fire and the wheel at the same time. Supportive quotes out of context can be misleading - I hope this happened to mr. Guth. He might not support the religious ideas of mr. Reese at all, but still acknowledge his former work as a real scientist.
Fact is that mixing science and religion is a bad thing *in my opnion* (and in that of many others in the established scientific community). Not stated as an absolute truth, just my opinion.
Fact is as well, that I have the strong opinion that religion is an exploit of the way way the human mind works to control the masses. Martin Reese is obviously part of this scheme (whether he realizes this or not doesn't matter).
I will not fight windmills, you have the perfect right to be misled by religious ideas- and not search for the truth.
In science we also have beliefs (you can not prove all). However, we at least try to find logical explanations and we do not do it to control people.
At the risk of being modded down the second time, I'll repost this.
Hey, thanks for replying and not modding like some others did, just because I have another opinion then yours. This is not a flamebait.
I am waaaay out of my teens and I'm still an atheist. Not a fundamentalist, though. For me, Martin Reese is just lost to science. The whole page is suspicious, having more than 10 (unknown) people state he is a scientist. This was an ad for religion. The human brain wants to explain things so badly, that if it can't it automatically invents a superpower to compensate for the stress of not being able to do it. Not very well accepted in the scientific world.
The problem comes in when religion shifts about keeping control on the masses. That's what the people who sponsored this page want to do. The human brain has a strong desire for authority and structure, their willingly abusing this. That's fundamentalistic. For that I have no good word whatsoever, I don't care which religion. If nobody dears to speak this out aloud, human kind will never be able to be freed from superstition and live up to its full potential.
That's my opinion, and in the last 20 years, I have come to accept that sometimes I need to be outspoken about it, otherwise some people will never even think about the possibility that God does not exist, and get on with their lives.
Hey, thanks for replying and not modding like some others did.
I am waaaay out of my teens and I'm still an atheist. Not a fundamentalist, though. For me, Martin Reese is just lost to science. The whole page is suspicious, having more than 10 (unknown) people state he is a scientist. This was an ad for religion. The human brain wants to explain things so badly, that if it can't it automatically invents a superpower to compensate for the stress of not being able to do it. Not very well accepted in the scientific world.
The problem comes in when religion shifts about keeping control on the masses. That's what the people who sponsored this page want to do. The human brain has a strong desire for authority and structure, their willingly abusing this. That's fundamentalistic. For that I have no good word whatsoever, I don't care which religion. If nobody dears to speak this out aloud, human kind will never be able to be freed from superstition and live up to its full potential.
That's my opinion, and in the last 20 years, I have come to accept that sometimes I need to be outspoken about it, otherwise some people will never even think about the possibility that God does not exist, and get on with their lives.
People who do not even want to consider my opinion, well that's their problem.
a scientist, who after many years of research and insight can not explain the world around him anymore. Therefore, he is saying there must be a God. I have serious doubt about believing or attaching value to anything he blogs, if only for this reason.
If you want to believe in God, that's your problem. However do not bother me with it. I'm sure there is a logical explanation to this universe thing. If he can't find it, let's not start getting all religious about it, shall we?
disclaimer: I'm not able to solve this puzzle, I know. I'm not using religion to cover it up. I post it on/.
"99.4% of a couple quadzillion genes still leaves a lot of genes that define us as humans."
I think 99.4% is pretty damn close, for a moderate number of randomly choosen genes. Since it's scientific research, one would think the (independent) referees of the paper will have looked at the STDEV. It was published, so that should be OK. We will not find anything closer (on this planet, that is).
Your comparison is wrong. A computer is build on the logic of on (1) or off (0). This number of states does not say *anything* about the complexity you can build with it. Think about 35.000 genes (the approx number of human genes). Think about all combinations, think about regulation and feedback loops between these genes. Think about transformation from DNA into protein and other structures, creating cells, creating organs, creating an organism. Think about interaction with the environment of all of this stuff.
Maybe then you will start to appreciate that the number of genes doesn't mean a lot. Hell, one could build something rather incomprehensibly complex with just a couple of hundreds of genes.
As for judgement which organism is more evolved, human or man, well that depends who's side your on. Philosophy: there is no wright or wrong to things - it is just the interpretation of the observer. There is no good measure for complexity. If you measure it by succes of a species, bacteria would win. They far outnumber us and any other living organism.
The management are just trying to save their collective asses. This is very clear from the statement, comparing their battle with that of the music industry.
Next press release from this "CEO": Clearly, the music industry can't win, so what are the chances for SCO? At least we really tried but these terrorist pirates (aka Linux users) ruined everything by stealing our IP - just like we all know they do with music and video. Doesn't really matter if it's not true. Short attention span, mis/preconception and buggy long term memory will fix that.
I hope they go down, I hope they go down flat on their face and loose everything. I feel sorry for all the honest engineers and programmers at SCO that will have to go find another job because management screwed up big time.
Ipod is soooo much better, bla bla bla, Apple rocks, bla bla bla. Creative sucks, bla bla bla That's my take. Hate to sound like a ravenous Mac-head, but... well... I am one.
That is exactly the reason why I will *_never_ever_* buy an Ipod. I just don't want to even have a slight chance that I'll be mistaken for a totally devoted, 100% Apple-marketing-brainwashed, totally subjective Apple fanboy. This Apple is almost starting to be a religion, and is getting on my tits.
Get a live, where your self image depends on the people that care about you and what you do, not about what kind of hardware manufacturer you sponsor!
I do not agree with this politically correct attitude towards everything. Everyone is different. There! I said it. It is OK to have a opinion of which is better in what situation, according to your point of view. It's OK to disagree with this point of view.
I stopped referring to dead people as "the encephalographically challenged" a long time ago.
Ladies and gentlemen - we might be dealing here with a person that leans towards software fanaticism. Someone who cannot cope with the choas of the current situation, and thinks that the only way to get his ideal world vision to happen - nice clean code and usuable applications for everyone - is to destroy what is already out there and start all over again. Understandable. Within the range of 'normal' human behavior.
Me as well, I really dislike the fact that there are so many unfinished applications and ideas out there. Sometimes very difficult. Hey I'm thinking world domination is a good thing for OSS. Mostly from a idealistic point of view. Not because I'm a cheap bastard. For third world countries It's better to spend money on education, stability, etc. than some rich guy in Redmond and his shareholders.
I have come to the conclusion that the only way to solve this problem is to buy boxed linux distributions. Pay these guys to weed out the intellectual masturbation projects from the real usuable stuff. I'm also secretly hoping that governments will pour money into the more boring - but very important - stuff like QA and completion of much needed functionality.
I have mod points, but I hope this will make more impact: I just can't stand arrogant programmer types, who want to be treated like programming is some kind of art. Sometimes it is, it really is. For most of the dead-anyway projects it isn't. That's fine with me. I have hobbies myself. However, just because you know how to get a freshmeat account doesn't make you Richard Stallman and it certainly does not give you the right to be an arrogant pain in the A!
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A better question would be can I use it to read my E-mail? Who said that all software projects will continue development up until the point where you can use them to read you E-mail?
Good work for gnumeric! Nice, fast, clean and actually useful.
To say that they must be running their webserver on these machines. Slashdotted after one comment!
# average: A program for calculating the average of numbers.# bound: Finds the boundary numbers (min and max) of input# interval: Shows the numeric intervals between each number in a sequence.# numsum: Add up all the numbers
Reminds me of another quote
"America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilisation." --Georges Clemenceau 1841-1929) French general and statesman.
Having lived in Paris for a couple of years (didn't really speak French when I came here), this sort of things still makes me laugh.
Some other funny examples.
Footing in French means jogging, it is especially funny since the French think this is what it is called in English.
Chewing gum means chewing gum, only you pronounce it as swing gum. Made me laugh this one.
I mean, think what would happen to the English language, if we were to remove all words from French origin. There would be almost no English left.
I don't think we need games to get a lot of people on Linux. I know Microsoft has been investing in the internet communication / collaboration market, for example they bought placeware, a company making software to do slideshow presentations and software demo's over the internet (through IE).
This would be a soo cool killer app for Linux. Internet communication / collaboration tools are hot, and able to convert many a PHB to Linux if you ask me. Games will come later, for me they are more an effect of increased use of Linux on the desktop than a cause.
I know it is the mother of all unholy suggestions given the history of the Gimp and Gnome, but wouldn't it be nice if someone would take all the professional Gimp features and complicated image processing code, and turns it into a really nice, userfriendly, KDE application?
I really like all the Gimp features (kudos to those who gave them to us), but I think much less of the interface.
Ridiculous patents, killing off liberalism and the free market economy, doing exactly what 50 years of communistic countries failed to do.
before buying this baby. Would Redmond be in missile range lying infront of the coast of Vancouver?
The basic research has been done and will be done on mouse embryos.
The discovery will hopefully lead to a cell line (originated from only a couple of human embryos, a single time) that can be growed indefinitely and without using chemicals to keep the cells from differentiating.
So yes, there would be no more need for human embryos for "production" of stem cells and it would probably be safer and more reproducible for the patients as well.
Yeah guys,
If anyone from you has the SCO source code, please post a link, so that we can perform that diff / comparison ourselves.
"This is what linux is best for, after all - low cost hardware made to run just as fast as the new stuff via the application of a good, stable, OS."
I am afraid that the most visited page on Microsoft Thailand website will soon be "How to remove a Linux partition and create a NTFS one instead"
I don't care if Alan Guth would have invented fire and the wheel at the same time. Supportive quotes out of context can be misleading - I hope this happened to mr. Guth. He might not support the religious ideas of mr. Reese at all, but still acknowledge his former work as a real scientist.
Fact is that mixing science and religion is a bad thing *in my opnion* (and in that of many others in the established scientific community). Not stated as an absolute truth, just my opinion.
Fact is as well, that I have the strong opinion that religion is an exploit of the way way the human mind works to control the masses. Martin Reese is obviously part of this scheme (whether he realizes this or not doesn't matter).
I will not fight windmills, you have the perfect right to be misled by religious ideas- and not search for the truth.
In science we also have beliefs (you can not prove all). However, we at least try to find logical explanations and we do not do it to control people.
At the risk of being modded down the second time, I'll repost this.
Hey, thanks for replying and not modding like some others did, just because I have another opinion then yours. This is not a flamebait.
I am waaaay out of my teens and I'm still an atheist. Not a fundamentalist, though. For me, Martin Reese is just lost to science. The whole page is suspicious, having more than 10 (unknown) people state he is a scientist. This was an ad for religion. The human brain wants to explain things so badly, that if it can't it automatically invents a superpower to compensate for the stress of not being able to do it. Not very well accepted in the scientific world.
The problem comes in when religion shifts about keeping control on the masses. That's what the people who sponsored this page want to do. The human brain has a strong desire for authority and structure, their willingly abusing this. That's fundamentalistic. For that I have no good word whatsoever, I don't care which religion. If nobody dears to speak this out aloud, human kind will never be able to be freed from superstition and live up to its full potential.
That's my opinion, and in the last 20 years, I have come to accept that sometimes I need to be outspoken about it, otherwise some people will never even think about the possibility that God does not exist, and get on with their lives.
Thanks,
Hey, thanks for replying and not modding like some others did.
I am waaaay out of my teens and I'm still an atheist. Not a fundamentalist, though. For me, Martin Reese is just lost to science. The whole page is suspicious, having more than 10 (unknown) people state he is a scientist. This was an ad for religion. The human brain wants to explain things so badly, that if it can't it automatically invents a superpower to compensate for the stress of not being able to do it. Not very well accepted in the scientific world.
The problem comes in when religion shifts about keeping control on the masses. That's what the people who sponsored this page want to do. The human brain has a strong desire for authority and structure, their willingly abusing this. That's fundamentalistic. For that I have no good word whatsoever, I don't care which religion. If nobody dears to speak this out aloud, human kind will never be able to be freed from superstition and live up to its full potential.
That's my opinion, and in the last 20 years, I have come to accept that sometimes I need to be outspoken about it, otherwise some people will never even think about the possibility that God does not exist, and get on with their lives.
People who do not even want to consider my opinion, well that's their problem.
Thanks,
a scientist, who after many years of research and insight can not explain the world around him anymore. Therefore, he is saying there must be a God. I have serious doubt about believing or attaching value to anything he blogs, if only for this reason.
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If you want to believe in God, that's your problem. However do not bother me with it. I'm sure there is a logical explanation to this universe thing. If he can't find it, let's not start getting all religious about it, shall we?
disclaimer: I'm not able to solve this puzzle, I know. I'm not using religion to cover it up. I post it on
"99.4% of a couple quadzillion genes still leaves a lot of genes that define us as humans."
I think 99.4% is pretty damn close, for a moderate number of randomly choosen genes. Since it's scientific research, one would think the (independent) referees of the paper will have looked at the STDEV. It was published, so that should be OK. We will not find anything closer (on this planet, that is).
Your comparison is wrong. A computer is build on the logic of on (1) or off (0). This number of states does not say *anything* about the complexity you can build with it. Think about 35.000 genes (the approx number of human genes). Think about all combinations, think about regulation and feedback loops between these genes. Think about transformation from DNA into protein and other structures, creating cells, creating organs, creating an organism. Think about interaction with the environment of all of this stuff.
Maybe then you will start to appreciate that the number of genes doesn't mean a lot. Hell, one could build something rather incomprehensibly complex with just a couple of hundreds of genes.
As for judgement which organism is more evolved, human or man, well that depends who's side your on. Philosophy: there is no wright or wrong to things - it is just the interpretation of the observer. There is no good measure for complexity. If you measure it by succes of a species, bacteria would win. They far outnumber us and any other living organism.
Yes, I tried Firebird as well. Love it, loads much faster than Mozilla. No bloat (that I won't use).
Openoffice.org take a long and good look at what is happening here! Faster loading time, clean interface. Focus on what's important.
is a fridge for cold beer and toilet paper dispenser...
Exactly,
The management are just trying to save their collective asses. This is very clear from the statement, comparing their battle with that of the music industry.
Next press release from this "CEO":
Clearly, the music industry can't win, so what are the chances for SCO? At least we really tried but these terrorist pirates (aka Linux users) ruined everything by stealing our IP - just like we all know they do with music and video. Doesn't really matter if it's not true. Short attention span, mis/preconception and buggy long term memory will fix that.
I hope they go down, I hope they go down flat on their face and loose everything. I feel sorry for all the honest engineers and programmers at SCO that will have to go find another job because management screwed up big time.
Ipod is soooo much better, bla bla bla, Apple rocks, bla bla bla. Creative sucks, bla bla bla
That's my take. Hate to sound like a ravenous Mac-head, but... well... I am one.
That is exactly the reason why I will *_never_ever_* buy an Ipod. I just don't want to even have a slight chance that I'll be mistaken for a totally devoted, 100% Apple-marketing-brainwashed, totally subjective Apple fanboy. This Apple is almost starting to be a religion, and is getting on my tits.
Get a live, where your self image depends on the people that care about you and what you do, not about what kind of hardware manufacturer you sponsor!
I do not agree with this politically correct attitude towards everything. Everyone is different. There! I said it. It is OK to have a opinion of which is better in what situation, according to your point of view. It's OK to disagree with this point of view.
I stopped referring to dead people as "the encephalographically challenged" a long time ago.
Sorry this was removed from my post by slashdot:
By only having this in the Pro version, customers who don't want this aren't paying for it.
Develop once, sell many times...
Develop once, sell many times...
Ladies and gentlemen - we might be dealing here with a person that leans towards software fanaticism. Someone who cannot cope with the choas of the current situation, and thinks that the only way to get his ideal world vision to happen - nice clean code and usuable applications for everyone - is to destroy what is already out there and start all over again. Understandable. Within the range of 'normal' human behavior.
Me as well, I really dislike the fact that there are so many unfinished applications and ideas out there. Sometimes very difficult. Hey I'm thinking world domination is a good thing for OSS. Mostly from a idealistic point of view. Not because I'm a cheap bastard. For third world countries It's better to spend money on education, stability, etc. than some rich guy in Redmond and his shareholders.
I have come to the conclusion that the only way to solve this problem is to buy boxed linux distributions. Pay these guys to weed out the intellectual masturbation projects from the real usuable stuff. I'm also secretly hoping that governments will pour money into the more boring - but very important - stuff like QA and completion of much needed functionality.
I have mod points, but I hope this will make more impact: I just can't stand arrogant programmer types, who want to be treated like programming is some kind of art. Sometimes it is, it really is. For most of the dead-anyway projects it isn't. That's fine with me. I have hobbies myself. However, just because you know how to get a freshmeat account doesn't make you Richard Stallman and it certainly does not give you the right to be an arrogant pain in the A!